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13:54:34 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-xhtml-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-xhtml-irc ←
13:54:47 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make log public ←
13:54:53 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml
Steven Pemberton: zakim, this will be xhtml ←
13:54:53 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes ←
13:55:06 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly XHTML2 WG Teleconference
13:55:11 <Steven> Chair: Steven and Roland
Scribe problem: the name 'Steven and Roland' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami
13:56:16 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0024
13:56:23 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0024
Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0024 ←
13:56:34 <Steven> Regrets: Regrets: Yam, Masataka Yakura, Alessio
Scribe problem: the name 'Regrets: Yam' does not match any of the 16 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami
13:59:29 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started ←
13:59:36 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:01:03 <Zakim> + +004670855aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +004670855aaaa ←
14:01:11 <Tina> That'd be Tina.
Tina Holmboe: That'd be Tina. ←
14:01:26 <Zakim> +McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←
14:02:21 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:02:21 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:02:23 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:02:33 <ShaneM> zakim. mccarron is shanem
Shane McCarron: zakim. mccarron is shanem ←
14:02:38 <ShaneM> hey
Shane McCarron: hey ←
14:02:43 <Steven> zakim, aaaa is Tina
Steven Pemberton: zakim, aaaa is Tina ←
14:02:43 <Zakim> +Tina; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Tina; got it ←
14:02:48 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
14:02:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina, McCarron, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gregory_Rosmaita, Tina, McCarron, Steven ←
14:02:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, oedipus, Zakim, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ShaneM, oedipus, Zakim, RRSAgent, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh ←
14:02:51 <Zakim> +Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland ←
14:02:53 <ShaneM> zakim, McCarron is ShaneM
Shane McCarron: zakim, McCarron is ShaneM ←
14:02:53 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
14:03:02 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:03:12 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregory_Rosmaita (9%), Tina (38%), ShaneM (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregory_Rosmaita (9%), Tina (38%), ShaneM (4%) ←
14:06:45 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
Mark Birbeck: zakim, code? ←
14:06:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck ←
14:07:39 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
14:07:55 <Rich> Zakim, ??P9 is Rich
Richard Schwerdtfeger: Zakim, ??P9 is Rich ←
14:07:55 <Zakim> +Rich; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rich; got it ←
14:08:16 <Steven> Scribe: ROland
(Scribe set to Roland Merrick)
14:08:20 <Steven> s/O/o/
14:08:42 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:08:56 <ShaneM> oops
Shane McCarron: oops ←
14:09:04 <Roland_> Topic: next face 2 face
14:09:06 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:09:22 <Roland_> so far only 2 people intend to be there
so far only 2 people intend to be there ←
14:10:57 <oedipus> GJR will be at plenary
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: GJR will be at plenary ←
14:11:29 <oedipus> GJR notes conflict between XHTML2 and HTML5 working group meetings
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: GJR notes conflict between XHTML2 and HTML5 working group meetings ←
14:11:46 <ShaneM> that's ironic
Shane McCarron: that's ironic ←
14:11:50 <oedipus> GJR may be joint HTML-Forms Task Force meeting at plenary
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: GJR may be joint HTML-Forms Task Force meeting at plenary ←
14:12:48 <Roland_> RESOLUTION: September face 2 face is cancelled
RESOLVED: September face 2 face is cancelled ←
14:13:08 <Zakim> + +0208761aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0208761aabb ←
14:13:10 <Roland_> Topic: XHTML Modularization 1.1
14:13:18 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aabb
Mark Birbeck: zakim, i am aabb ←
14:13:18 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +markbirbeck; got it ←
14:13:22 <Roland_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml-modularization
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml-modularization ←
14:14:04 <Roland_> a few changes need to be made to reflect response to Schema WG
a few changes need to be made to reflect response to Schema WG ←
14:14:34 <Roland_> Shane has made the changes, but not added the examples
Shane has made the changes, but not added the examples ←
14:16:28 <Roland_> Mark recalls his action to create the example that Shane needs to add
Mark recalls his action to create the example that Shane needs to add ←
14:17:30 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts
Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts ←
14:17:48 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml-modularization
Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml-modularization ←
14:18:43 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
Scribe problem: the name 'Gregory_Rosmaita' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:18:53 <oedipus> XHTML Modularization 1.1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: XHTML Modularization 1.1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404 ←
14:19:02 <oedipus> XHTML Role Attribute Module: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070811
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: XHTML Role Attribute Module: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070811 ←
14:19:54 <Roland_> comments this week on mailing list wrt XHTML Modularization
comments this week on mailing list wrt XHTML Modularization ←
14:19:55 <Zakim> -Tina
Zakim IRC Bot: -Tina ←
14:20:08 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:20:32 <Roland_> Topic: @inputmode
14:21:08 <oedipus> zakim, mute Gregory_Rosmaita
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: zakim, mute Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:21:08 <Zakim> Gregory_Rosmaita should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Gregory_Rosmaita should now be muted ←
14:22:02 <Roland_> Steven has sent a note to mailing seeking clarification of "digits" problem
Steven has sent a note to mailing seeking clarification of "digits" problem ←
14:22:33 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0015
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0015 ←
14:22:34 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0023
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0023 ←
14:22:34 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0024
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0024 ←
14:23:05 <Roland_> TOPIC: @role
14:23:25 <Roland_> note from Tina : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0020
note from Tina : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0020 ←
14:24:01 <ShaneM> +q
Shane McCarron: +q ←
14:24:05 <Tina> And I'm without a phone as of five minutes ago.
Tina Holmboe: And I'm without a phone as of five minutes ago. ←
14:24:12 <oedipus> zakim, unmute me
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: zakim, unmute me ←
14:24:12 <Zakim> sorry, oedipus, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, oedipus, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:24:22 <oedipus> zakim, unmute Gregory_Rosmaita
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: zakim, unmute Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:24:22 <Zakim> Gregory_Rosmaita should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Gregory_Rosmaita should no longer be muted ←
14:24:26 <markbirbeck> +q
Mark Birbeck: +q ←
14:24:35 <oedipus> q+
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: q+ ←
14:25:11 <Rich> q+
14:25:31 <oedipus> q=
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: q= ←
14:25:34 <Roland_> Shane has spoken to Tina on this subject at some length
Shane has spoken to Tina on this subject at some length ←
14:25:35 <oedipus> -q
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: -q ←
14:26:02 <oedipus> GJR: role on DIV can be used with ownedby labelledby etc.
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'GJR' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown GJR: role on DIV can be used with ownedby labelledby etc. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:26:37 <Roland_> Shane would be prepared to continue working the issue with Tina (who is not on the call today)
Shane would be prepared to continue working the issue with Tina (who is not on the call today) ←
14:26:45 <oedipus> DIV can be given meaning by owing or being owned by an object containing it
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: DIV can be given meaning by owing or being owned by an object containing it ←
14:27:12 <Roland_> Rich says that there are large numbers of examples of use of @role for ARIA.
Rich says that there are large numbers of examples of use of @role for ARIA. ←
14:28:05 <Roland_> Mark believes that there is a misunderstanding that needs to be resolved
Mark believes that there is a misunderstanding that needs to be resolved ←
14:28:33 <Roland_> Rich will reply to Tina
Rich will reply to Tina ←
14:28:50 <Roland_> TOPIC: test suites for modules
14:29:02 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0017
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0017 ←
14:30:34 <Roland_> a never ending problem with Modularization
a never ending problem with Modularization ←
14:34:23 <Roland_> for the specific case of @role we have usage by ARIA
for the specific case of @role we have usage by ARIA ←
14:36:28 <Roland_> the spec for role only defines syntax and no semantics
the spec for role only defines syntax and no semantics ←
14:37:31 <Roland_> Mark: if there is a DOM we should describe how @role works
Mark Birbeck: if there is a DOM we should describe how @role works ←
14:41:56 <Roland_> Mark the semantics for @role are very rudimentary
Mark the semantics for @role are very rudimentary ←
14:43:01 <ShaneM> Remember that while we are discussing @role, we also have the access module, and other potential small modules.
Shane McCarron: Remember that while we are discussing @role, we also have the access module, and other potential small modules. ←
14:43:59 <Steven> q?
Steven Pemberton: q? ←
14:44:05 <Steven> queue=
Steven Pemberton: queue= ←
14:46:49 <Roland_> base proposal from Shane is that we should ceate a host driver language to test a module in isolation.
base proposal from Shane is that we should ceate a host driver language to test a module in isolation. ←
14:49:46 <ShaneM> I think CR exit criteria is independent of the QA test suite requirements
Shane McCarron: I think CR exit criteria is independent of the QA test suite requirements ←
14:53:39 <Roland_> RESOLUTION: adopt Shane's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0017]
RESOLVED: adopt Shane's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0017] ←
14:54:49 <Roland_> TOPIC: Restore hr
14:55:12 <ShaneM> Dan said, as an aside in a comment to html-editor: p.s. I'm new to reviewing this document. The status section says it's "relatively mature"; are there any test cases I could study? Even if they're not 100% finished, I'd like to have a look.
Shane McCarron: Dan said, as an aside in a comment to html-editor: p.s. I'm new to reviewing this document. The status section says it's "relatively mature"; are there any test cases I could study? Even if they're not 100% finished, I'd like to have a look. ←
14:55:21 <Roland_> request from Dan.C [ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0003 ]
request from Dan.C [ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0003 ] ←
14:56:13 <Roland_> review history of decision, perceived to be purely presentational
review history of decision, perceived to be purely presentational ←
14:57:43 <markbirbeck> q+
Mark Birbeck: q+ ←
14:57:43 <Roland_> a need for a separator is accepted, hence separator
a need for a separator is accepted, hence separator ←
14:58:14 <oedipus> deprecate HR, replace with LS (post to public-html): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Apr/0099.html
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Unknown oedipus: deprecate HR, replace with LS (post to public-html): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Apr/0099.html ←
14:58:23 <Roland_> Steven proposes to keep hr for legacy reasons
Steven proposes to keep hr for legacy reasons ←
14:58:39 <Roland_> and deprecate it
and deprecate it ←
14:58:56 <Roland_> Shane has no problems with it
Shane has no problems with it ←
15:00:00 <oedipus> GJR notes that use of BLOCKQUOTE for formatting deprecated in HTML 4.01 -- hasn't made a difference
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15:00:39 <Roland_> Mark states that we could keep such items in a module and that a decision to include a module is up to the language designer
Mark states that we could keep such items in a module and that a decision to include a module is up to the language designer ←
15:02:15 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
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15:02:17 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
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15:02:19 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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15:02:23 <Zakim> -Steven
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15:02:25 <Zakim> -Roland
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15:02:26 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended ←
15:02:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, +004670855aaaa, Steven, Tina, Roland, ShaneM, Rich, +0208761aabb, markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, +004670855aaaa, Steven, Tina, Roland, ShaneM, Rich, +0208761aabb, markbirbeck ←
15:02:56 <markbirbeck> Mark: Another approach is to have a 'presentational' module in a way similar to MathML. Then it's clear to people what is best practice, but those elements are there for people if they really want them.
Mark Birbeck: Another approach is to have a 'presentational' module in a way similar to MathML. Then it's clear to people what is best practice, but those elements are there for people if they really want them. [ Scribe Assist by Mark Birbeck ] ←
15:03:25 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes ←
15:03:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
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