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14:00:10 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-irc ←
14:00:20 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make public
Shane McCarron: rrsagent, make public ←
14:00:20 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public ', ShaneM. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public ', ShaneM. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
14:01:04 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:01:55 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
14:02:08 <alessio> zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: zakim, +??P8 is Alessio ←
14:02:08 <Zakim> sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8' ←
14:02:23 <alessio> zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: zakim, +??P8 is Alessio ←
14:02:23 <Zakim> sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8' ←
14:02:23 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make record public
Shane McCarron: rrsagent, make record public ←
14:02:38 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
14:02:51 <yamx> Zakim, +??P9 is yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Zakim, +??P9 is yamx ←
14:02:51 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9' ←
14:03:08 <yamx> Oh!
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Oh! ←
14:03:20 <yamx> Zakim, +P9 is yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Zakim, +P9 is yamx ←
14:03:20 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+P9'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+P9' ←
14:03:27 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make logs public
Shane McCarron: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:04:02 <yamx> Last week, Roland failed to initiate Zakim.
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Last week, Roland failed to initiate Zakim. ←
14:04:57 <yamx> Zakim, ??P9 is yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Zakim, ??P9 is yamx ←
14:04:57 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yamx; got it ←
14:05:15 <alessio> Zakim, ??P8 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: Zakim, ??P8 is Alessio ←
14:05:15 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←
14:05:51 <Roland_> Zakim, +0138687aaaa is Roland
Roland Merrick: Zakim, +0138687aaaa is Roland ←
14:05:51 <Zakim> +Roland; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland; got it ←
14:06:01 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
Shane McCarron: rrsagent, make logs world-visible ←
14:07:48 <ShaneM> Topic: M12N and XML Schema
Shane McCarron: Topic: M12N and XML Schema ←
14:08:34 <ShaneM> Held over...
Shane McCarron: Held over... ←
14:08:42 <ShaneM> Topic: xml:base and M12N
Shane McCarron: Topic: xml:base and M12N ←
14:10:01 <ShaneM> This was discussed briefly in the last call. There is a "base" element already.
Shane McCarron: This was discussed briefly in the last call. There is a "base" element already. ←
14:11:43 <ShaneM> Shane is afraid that adding xml:base will mean we need to issue a new XHTML 1.x.
Shane McCarron: Shane is afraid that adding xml:base will mean we need to issue a new XHTML 1.x. ←
14:12:23 <ShaneM> Roland says we have two options: go through a rec process for M12N etc. or just do it in XHTML 2.
Shane McCarron: Roland says we have two options: go through a rec process for M12N etc. or just do it in XHTML 2. ←
14:12:28 <ShaneM> Carried forward.
Shane McCarron: Carried forward. ←
14:12:35 <ShaneM> Topic: XML Schema implementation for XHTML 2.0
Shane McCarron: Topic: XML Schema implementation for XHTML 2.0 ←
14:15:33 <ShaneM> Shane suggests that we need to take the existing schema implementation for xhtml m12n 1 and tweak it.
Shane McCarron: Shane suggests that we need to take the existing schema implementation for xhtml m12n 1 and tweak it. ←
14:15:50 <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to start implementing xml schema for xhtml 2.0
Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to start implementing xml schema for xhtml 2.0 ←
14:16:14 <ShaneM> ACTION: Roland to respond to UWA WG and say yes, we are producing a schema. We do not yet have a schedule.
Shane McCarron: ACTION: Roland to respond to UWA WG and say yes, we are producing a schema. We do not yet have a schedule. ←
14:16:47 <ShaneM> Topic: Do not deprecate the profile attribute
Shane McCarron: Topic: Do not deprecate the profile attribute ←
14:18:08 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0037.html
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0037.html ←
14:20:36 <Roland_> a reply was sent: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0039.html
Roland Merrick: a reply was sent: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0039.html ←
14:21:20 <ShaneM> Shane thinks that reply is accurate.
Shane McCarron: Shane thinks that reply is accurate. ←
14:21:52 <ShaneM> The question is: do we really want to get rid of profile? GRDDL really wants to use it. Was the original deprecation of it in XHTML 1 a good idea?
Shane McCarron: The question is: do we really want to get rid of profile? GRDDL really wants to use it. Was the original deprecation of it in XHTML 1 a good idea? ←
14:23:05 <ShaneM> The profile attribute seeme to be used by the microformat community too
Shane McCarron: The profile attribute seeme to be used by the microformat community too ←
14:23:59 <ShaneM> Example: http://microformats.org/wiki/xmdp-brainstorming
Shane McCarron: Example: http://microformats.org/wiki/xmdp-brainstorming ←
14:25:29 <ShaneM> Shane thinks we should expand the collection of "rel" values to permit microformat relationship. We should ask people who care?
Shane McCarron: Shane thinks we should expand the collection of "rel" values to permit microformat relationship. We should ask people who care? ←
14:26:54 <ShaneM> Carry this forward as a future agenda item "Use cases for a profile attribute" or some such.
Shane McCarron: Carry this forward as a future agenda item "Use cases for a profile attribute" or some such. ←
14:27:38 <ShaneM> Topic: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup
Shane McCarron: Topic: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup ←
14:27:41 <ShaneM> Skipped for this week.
Shane McCarron: Skipped for this week. ←
14:30:05 <ShaneM> Topic: XHTML M12N
Shane McCarron: Topic: XHTML M12N ←
14:30:06 <Roland_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/xhtml-modularization-11-implementation
Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/xhtml-modularization-11-implementation ←
14:30:19 <Roland_> Prose vs implementation
Roland Merrick: Prose vs implementation ←
14:31:34 <ShaneM> Latest draft of M12N is at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404/
Shane McCarron: Latest draft of M12N is at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404/ ←
14:34:54 <ShaneM> Who is the audience for this? What is hanging fire?
Shane McCarron: Who is the audience for this? What is hanging fire? ←
14:35:14 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0047
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0047 ←
14:35:24 <ShaneM> Shane says XHTML 1.1 needs updating and needs to use XML Schema, and XHTML Print could use a schema implementation too.
Shane McCarron: Shane says XHTML 1.1 needs updating and needs to use XML Schema, and XHTML Print could use a schema implementation too. ←
14:36:37 <ShaneM> Other topic is "what takes precedence, prose or implementation?"
Shane McCarron: Other topic is "what takes precedence, prose or implementation?" ←
14:37:57 <ShaneM> Shane things prose / abstract module definitions take precedence.
Shane McCarron: Shane things prose / abstract module definitions take precedence. ←
14:42:06 <ShaneM> s/things/thinks/
Shane McCarron: s/things/thinks/ ←
14:43:51 <ShaneM> RDFa task force is public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
Shane McCarron: RDFa task force is public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org ←
14:47:18 <Zakim> -Alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←
14:48:07 <alessio> sorry, trying to reconnect
Alessio Cartocci: sorry, trying to reconnect ←
14:50:28 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:50:43 <alessio> Zakim, ??P0 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: Zakim, ??P0 is Alessio ←
14:50:43 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←
14:53:53 <ShaneM> Went over a bunch of things about our outstanding work. No resolutions.
Shane McCarron: Went over a bunch of things about our outstanding work. No resolutions. ←
14:54:10 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
Shane McCarron: rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:54:19 <ShaneM> RRSAgent, make minutes
Shane McCarron: RRSAgent, make minutes ←
14:55:02 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:55:08 <Zakim> -Alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←
14:55:10 <Zakim> -yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx ←
14:55:11 <Zakim> -Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←
14:55:12 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended ←
14:55:13 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, yamx, Alessio, Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ShaneM, yamx, Alessio, Roland ←
14:56:24 <ShaneM> RRSAgent, please make the minutes
Shane McCarron: RRSAgent, please make the minutes ←
14:59:56 <anne> RRSAgent, make logs public
Scribe problem: the name 'anne' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'anne' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown anne: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
15:00:01 <anne> RRSAgent, draft minutes
Scribe problem: the name 'anne' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'anne' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown anne: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
15:00:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-minutes.html anne
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-minutes.html anne ←
15:01:33 <ShaneM> rrsagent must not like me
Shane McCarron: rrsagent must not like me ←
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