IRC log of xhtml on 2007-08-08

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14:00:20 [ShaneM]
rrsagent, make public
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public ', ShaneM. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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+ShaneM
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+??P8
14:02:08 [alessio]
zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
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sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
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zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
14:02:23 [Zakim]
sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
14:02:23 [ShaneM]
rrsagent, make record public
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+??P9
14:02:51 [yamx]
Zakim, +??P9 is yamx
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sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9'
14:03:08 [yamx]
Oh!
14:03:20 [yamx]
Zakim, +P9 is yamx
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sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+P9'
14:03:27 [ShaneM]
rrsagent, make logs public
14:04:02 [yamx]
Last week, Roland failed to initiate Zakim.
14:04:57 [yamx]
Zakim, ??P9 is yamx
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+yamx; got it
14:05:15 [alessio]
Zakim, ??P8 is Alessio
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+Alessio; got it
14:05:51 [Roland_]
Zakim, +0138687aaaa is Roland
14:05:51 [Zakim]
+Roland; got it
14:06:01 [ShaneM]
rrsagent, make logs world-visible
14:07:48 [ShaneM]
Topic: M12N and XML Schema
14:08:34 [ShaneM]
Held over...
14:08:42 [ShaneM]
Topic: xml:base and M12N
14:10:01 [ShaneM]
This was discussed briefly in the last call. There is a "base" element already.
14:11:43 [ShaneM]
Shane is afraid that adding xml:base will mean we need to issue a new XHTML 1.x.
14:12:23 [ShaneM]
Roland says we have two options: go through a rec process for M12N etc. or just do it in XHTML 2.
14:12:28 [ShaneM]
Carried forward.
14:12:35 [ShaneM]
Topic: XML Schema implementation for XHTML 2.0
14:15:33 [ShaneM]
Shane suggests that we need to take the existing schema implementation for xhtml m12n 1 and tweak it.
14:15:50 [ShaneM]
ACTION: Shane to start implementing xml schema for xhtml 2.0
14:16:14 [ShaneM]
ACTION: Roland to respond to UWA WG and say yes, we are producing a schema. We do not yet have a schedule.
14:16:47 [ShaneM]
Topic: Do not deprecate the profile attribute
14:18:08 [Roland_]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0037.html
14:20:36 [Roland_]
a reply was sent: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0039.html
14:21:20 [ShaneM]
Shane thinks that reply is accurate.
14:21:52 [ShaneM]
The question is: do we really want to get rid of profile? GRDDL really wants to use it. Was the original deprecation of it in XHTML 1 a good idea?
14:23:05 [ShaneM]
The profile attribute seeme to be used by the microformat community too
14:23:59 [ShaneM]
Example: http://microformats.org/wiki/xmdp-brainstorming
14:25:29 [ShaneM]
Shane thinks we should expand the collection of "rel" values to permit microformat relationship. We should ask people who care?
14:26:54 [ShaneM]
Carry this forward as a future agenda item "Use cases for a profile attribute" or some such.
14:27:38 [ShaneM]
Topic: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup
14:27:41 [ShaneM]
Skipped for this week.
14:30:05 [ShaneM]
Topic: XHTML M12N
14:30:06 [Roland_]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/xhtml-modularization-11-implementation
14:30:19 [Roland_]
Prose vs implementation
14:31:34 [ShaneM]
Latest draft of M12N is at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404/
14:34:54 [ShaneM]
Who is the audience for this? What is hanging fire?
14:35:14 [Roland_]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0047
14:35:24 [ShaneM]
Shane says XHTML 1.1 needs updating and needs to use XML Schema, and XHTML Print could use a schema implementation too.
14:36:37 [ShaneM]
Other topic is "what takes precedence, prose or implementation?"
14:37:57 [ShaneM]
Shane things prose / abstract module definitions take precedence.
14:42:06 [ShaneM]
s/things/thinks/
14:43:51 [ShaneM]
RDFa task force is public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
14:47:18 [Zakim]
-Alessio
14:48:07 [alessio]
sorry, trying to reconnect
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+??P0
14:50:43 [alessio]
Zakim, ??P0 is Alessio
14:50:43 [Zakim]
+Alessio; got it
14:53:53 [ShaneM]
Went over a bunch of things about our outstanding work. No resolutions.
14:54:10 [ShaneM]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:54:19 [ShaneM]
RRSAgent, make minutes
14:55:02 [Zakim]
-ShaneM
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-Alessio
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-yamx
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-Roland
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IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were ShaneM, yamx, Alessio, Roland
14:56:24 [ShaneM]
RRSAgent, please make the minutes
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RRSAgent, make logs public
15:00:01 [anne]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-minutes.html anne
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rrsagent must not like me
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