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13:32:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-irc ←
13:32:16 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make log public ←
13:32:22 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml
Steven Pemberton: zakim, this will be xhtml ←
13:32:22 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 28 minutes ←
13:32:38 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly XHTML2 WG Teleconference
13:32:51 <Steven> Chair: Roland, Steven
13:33:38 <Steven> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/11-xhtml-minutes Previous
Steven Pemberton: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/11-xhtml-minutes Previous ←
13:34:13 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0030
13:34:20 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0030
Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0030 ←
13:35:30 <Steven> Regrets: Shane, Rich, Alessio
14:00:32 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started
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Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started ←
14:00:33 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:00:33 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:00:50 <Zakim> +Roland_
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland_ ←
14:01:15 <Steven> zakim, drop steven
Steven Pemberton: zakim, drop steven ←
14:01:15 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not see a party named 'steven'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven, I do not see a party named 'steven' ←
14:01:22 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:01:22 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:01:23 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:01:35 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
14:01:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roland_, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Roland_, Steven ←
14:01:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, Roland_, markbirbeck, Tina, RRSAgent, Zakim, krijnh, Lachy
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Steven, Roland_, markbirbeck, Tina, RRSAgent, Zakim, krijnh, Lachy ←
14:01:42 <Zakim> + +46.7.08.5.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +46.7.08.5.aaaa ←
14:01:56 <Steven> zakim, aaaa is Tina
Steven Pemberton: zakim, aaaa is Tina ←
14:02:00 <Zakim> +Tina; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Tina; got it ←
14:03:20 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmiata
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gregory_Rosmiata ←
14:04:35 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
14:04:52 <yamx> zakim, P18 is yamx
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Unknown yamx: zakim, P18 is yamx ←
14:04:52 <Steven> zakim, ??p18 is yamx
Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??p18 is yamx ←
14:04:53 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named 'P18'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named 'P18' ←
14:04:57 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yamx; got it ←
14:06:09 <yamx> We OMA are very pleased to see XHTMLBasic 1.1 CR status.
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Unknown yamx: We OMA are very pleased to see XHTMLBasic 1.1 CR status. ←
14:06:34 <Steven> Regrets+Mark
Steven Pemberton: Regrets+Mark ←
14:07:15 <oedipus> SP: XHTML Basic 1.1 Is a Candidate Recommendation!!!
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Steven Pemberton: XHTML Basic 1.1 Is a Candidate Recommendation!!! [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:07:53 <oedipus> SP: asked when exit CR? - end of august begining of october
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Steven Pemberton: asked when exit CR? - end of august begining of october [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:08:08 <oedipus> SP: Draft schedule for November meeting (TPAC) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0027
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Steven Pemberton: Draft schedule for November meeting (TPAC) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0027 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:08:49 <oedipus> SP: not on monday and tuesday, but other end of the weeek; tech plenary tries to get as many WGs together in one place at one time; get to work out issues, get to make new liaisons, etc.
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Steven Pemberton: not on monday and tuesday, but other end of the weeek; tech plenary tries to get as many WGs together in one place at one time; get to work out issues, get to make new liaisons, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:09:00 <oedipus> SP: wednesday a plenary day - mini-conference
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Steven Pemberton: wednesday a plenary day - mini-conference [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:09:54 <oedipus> SP: thursday and friday rest of groups meet; going to be an AC (advisory committee) meeting as well -- new, so made half day AC meeting on thursday, so groups can meet thursday afternoon, friday (all day) and saturday morning
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Steven Pemberton: thursday and friday rest of groups meet; going to be an AC (advisory committee) meeting as well -- new, so made half day AC meeting on thursday, so groups can meet thursday afternoon, friday (all day) and saturday morning [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:10:17 <oedipus> SP: still have to decide if want to use saturday morning - depends on agenda - by then, anticipate quite a big agenda
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Steven Pemberton: still have to decide if want to use saturday morning - depends on agenda - by then, anticipate quite a big agenda [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:10:41 <oedipus> SP: we are meeting at same time as HTML working group; don't know if can meet up with them, but we shall see
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Steven Pemberton: we are meeting at same time as HTML working group; don't know if can meet up with them, but we shall see [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:10:55 <oedipus> TOPIC: Coming calls http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0004
14:11:15 <oedipus> SP: propose we skip a week due to lack of chair or chair pro tem
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Steven Pemberton: propose we skip a week due to lack of chair or chair pro tem [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:11:21 <oedipus> no objections
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: no objections ←
14:11:41 <oedipus> SP: skip a week -- in 2 weeks roland will chair (roland available until end of august)
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Steven Pemberton: skip a week -- in 2 weeks roland will chair (roland available until end of august) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:11:58 <oedipus> SP: Next Face2Face: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0005
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Steven Pemberton: Next Face2Face: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0005 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:12:05 <oedipus> SP: now have exact times, locations, etc.
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Steven Pemberton: now have exact times, locations, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:12:32 <oedipus> AGENDA ITEM 1: Reply to Schema Working Group
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Unknown oedipus: AGENDA ITEM 1: Reply to Schema Working Group ←
14:13:00 <oedipus> SP: has anyone looked at comments and reply? if have comments, please bring them to the fore ASAP
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Steven Pemberton: has anyone looked at comments and reply? if have comments, please bring them to the fore ASAP [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:13:46 <oedipus> SP: general schema principles -- marked 2 places with @@ were wasn't sure were finished
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Steven Pemberton: general schema principles -- marked 2 places with @@ were wasn't sure were finished [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:13:52 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0011
Steven Pemberton: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0011 ←
14:13:56 <oedipus> Reply to comments on XHTML Modularization 1.1 from XML Schema WG http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0011
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: Reply to comments on XHTML Modularization 1.1 from XML Schema WG http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0011 ←
14:15:34 <oedipus> AGENDA ITEM 2: analysis for hypertext CG comparision between basic 1.0 to 1.1; added print and XHTML Basic 1.1; XHTML 1.1 is the superset of all, except for inputmode which is now part of basic 1.1 should we add it to next release of XHTML 1.1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0016
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: AGENDA ITEM 2: analysis for hypertext CG comparision between basic 1.0 to 1.1; added print and XHTML Basic 1.1; XHTML 1.1 is the superset of all, except for inputmode which is now part of basic 1.1 should we add it to next release of XHTML 1.1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0016 ←
14:15:58 <oedipus> SP: due to come out when modularization comes out of CR; window of opportunity; parent language of sub-set languages
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Steven Pemberton: due to come out when modularization comes out of CR; window of opportunity; parent language of sub-set languages [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:16:37 <oedipus> SP: objections? entirely optional -- only a hint to the processor, but for mobile versions of XHTML good feature to have -- already in XHTML2 due to XForms
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Steven Pemberton: objections? entirely optional -- only a hint to the processor, but for mobile versions of XHTML good feature to have -- already in XHTML2 due to XForms [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:17:25 <oedipus> ACTION: Shane - add input mode to XHTML 1.1 second edition
ACTION: Shane - add input mode to XHTML 1.1 second edition ←
14:17:55 <oedipus> SP: shane not here (sent regrets) -- can discuss but not decide until shane here
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Steven Pemberton: shane not here (sent regrets) -- can discuss but not decide until shane here [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:19:47 <oedipus> SP: XHMTL2 WG has task force (meets once a week on thursday evenings) working on RDFa -- allows one to define more semantics for elements; similar to microformats, but much more disciplined; generates RDF triples; modularization doesn't define base -- need to discuss
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Steven Pemberton: XHMTL2 WG has task force (meets once a week on thursday evenings) working on RDFa -- allows one to define more semantics for elements; similar to microformats, but much more disciplined; generates RDF triples; modularization doesn't define base -- need to discuss [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:20:05 <oedipus> SP: shane's Q: should we accomodate base or incorporate into 1.1?
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Steven Pemberton: shane's Q: should we accomodate base or incorporate into 1.1? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:20:23 <oedipus> SP: other question: what should we do relative to base elements, if they disagree with one another
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Steven Pemberton: other question: what should we do relative to base elements, if they disagree with one another [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:20:38 <oedipus> scribe's note: base = XML Base
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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown oedipus: scribe's note: base = XML Base ←
14:21:14 <oedipus> SP: history: going to need facility like base in HTML, so XML Base produced; made last call for XLink; should be defining meaning of XML Base
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Steven Pemberton: history: going to need facility like base in HTML, so XML Base produced; made last call for XLink; should be defining meaning of XML Base [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:22:13 <oedipus> SP: ought to do it for future versions of language, not past versions; right now no one doing it; should we add to XHTML 1.1 or state that future versions of XHTML will build on it
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Steven Pemberton: ought to do it for future versions of language, not past versions; right now no one doing it; should we add to XHTML 1.1 or state that future versions of XHTML will build on it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:22:44 <oedipus> SP: allowable on any element; specifies the effect - how to interpret relative URIs for all children of element
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Steven Pemberton: allowable on any element; specifies the effect - how to interpret relative URIs for all children of element [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:23:02 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlbase/
Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlbase/ ←
14:23:12 <oedipus> ??: could we not use that to override what is in base; equivalent of base
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Unknown oedipus: ??: could we not use that to override what is in base; equivalent of base ←
14:23:35 <oedipus> SP: good approach -- on HTML (applies to head and body elements)
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Steven Pemberton: good approach -- on HTML (applies to head and body elements) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:23:53 <oedipus> SP: rules specified except for what they do if on HTML element and a BASE in head which is different
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Steven Pemberton: rules specified except for what they do if on HTML element and a BASE in head which is different [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:24:04 <oedipus> SP: what do we think should happen
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Steven Pemberton: what do we think should happen [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:24:21 <oedipus> ???: XML Base as fragment
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Unknown oedipus: ???: XML Base as fragment ←
14:24:42 <oedipus> SP: Base for legacy / backwards compatibility, but otherwise overridden by XML Base
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Steven Pemberton: Base for legacy / backwards compatibility, but otherwise overridden by XML Base [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:25:11 <oedipus> ???: could be interpreted afterwards, XML Base a refinement; if no XML Base, use what is in HTML instance's head
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Unknown oedipus: ???: could be interpreted afterwards, XML Base a refinement; if no XML Base, use what is in HTML instance's head ←
14:25:56 <oedipus> SP: another approach with legacy - when tranistioning from name att to id att on A - if have name, must have id and must have same value; could require if use BASE elements, that you use XML Base in the head set to the same value
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Steven Pemberton: another approach with legacy - when tranistioning from name att to id att on A - if have name, must have id and must have same value; could require if use BASE elements, that you use XML Base in the head set to the same value [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:26:21 <oedipus> SP: if we say the MUST be the same, result is fine
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Steven Pemberton: if we say the MUST be the same, result is fine [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:26:37 <oedipus> ??: alternative, i agree
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Unknown oedipus: ??: alternative, i agree ←
14:27:11 <oedipus> SP: don't say what happens with name and id, just there for backwards compatibility; if say one has priority over the other, wouldn't work in legacy browsers; so, just don't do it
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Steven Pemberton: don't say what happens with name and id, just there for backwards compatibility; if say one has priority over the other, wouldn't work in legacy browsers; so, just don't do it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:27:50 <oedipus> SP: should we only put stuff in future versions, or revise past versions -- adding to another version of XHTML 1.1
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Steven Pemberton: should we only put stuff in future versions, or revise past versions -- adding to another version of XHTML 1.1 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:28:19 <oedipus> ??: [couldn't hear, muffled]
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Unknown oedipus: ??: [couldn't hear, muffled] ←
14:28:51 <oedipus> SP: if say have to define base and xml base so that cooperate, don't see why shouldn't put into a 1.1 version
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Steven Pemberton: if say have to define base and xml base so that cooperate, don't see why shouldn't put into a 1.1 version [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:29:11 <oedipus> SP: no resolution -- needs more discussion on list, especially from shane, who proposed it
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Steven Pemberton: no resolution -- needs more discussion on list, especially from shane, who proposed it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:29:19 <oedipus> agenda item 4: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012
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Unknown oedipus: agenda item 4: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012 ←
14:34:39 <oedipus> SP: RDF task force developing native RDFa -- working on getting more widely accepted
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Steven Pemberton: RDF task force developing native RDFa -- working on getting more widely accepted [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:35:02 <oedipus> SP: in a sense, can ignore attributes and page still has meaning it still had; non-assistive browser can ignore
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Steven Pemberton: in a sense, can ignore attributes and page still has meaning it still had; non-assistive browser can ignore [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:36:19 <oedipus> SP: HTML has rule to ignore attributes don't know about; if get added no problem really for HTML; RDFa able to define triples -- relationships and states -- about attribute proxy that tells relationship; sounds like RDFa is coming up with similar mechanism
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14:37:18 <oedipus> SP: heads-up to RDFa task force that WAI has set of requirements that could be met by RDFa -- simple semantics; links in with role attribute
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Steven Pemberton: heads-up to RDFa task force that WAI has set of requirements that could be met by RDFa -- simple semantics; links in with role attribute [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:38:35 <Steven> public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
Steven Pemberton: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org ←
14:38:44 <oedipus> ACTION GJR: explain what WAI ARIA attempting to achieve and crossover with RDFa let task force know via public-rdfa-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
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Unknown oedipus: ACTION GJR: explain what WAI ARIA attempting to achieve and crossover with RDFa let task force know via public-rdfa-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org ←
14:39:21 <oedipus> TOPIC 3: agenda item 5: Using script to implement namespaces http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0009
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Unknown oedipus: TOPIC 3: agenda item 5: Using script to implement namespaces http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0009 ←
14:40:21 <oedipus> SP: people producing javascript libraries that implement a particular ML; if have nested XForms in XHTML doc add script to implement XForms in a standard browser; great way to get namespaces integrated into legacy browsers
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Steven Pemberton: people producing javascript libraries that implement a particular ML; if have nested XForms in XHTML doc add script to implement XForms in a standard browser; great way to get namespaces integrated into legacy browsers [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:41:27 <oedipus> SP: don't want UAs that understand namespaces to use script; propose attribute for script that tells UA that only reason this script is here is that it is implementing a specific function; legacy UA will call javascript to call namespace into browser; new UAs will ignor
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Steven Pemberton: don't want UAs that understand namespaces to use script; propose attribute for script that tells UA that only reason this script is here is that it is implementing a specific function; legacy UA will call javascript to call namespace into browser; new UAs will ignor [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:41:36 <oedipus> SP: comments?
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Steven Pemberton: comments? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:42:28 <oedipus> SP: good way to get out of CR -- implement parts of XHTML2 in any browser with assistance of script
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Steven Pemberton: good way to get out of CR -- implement parts of XHTML2 in any browser with assistance of script [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:42:53 <oedipus> ??3: How elegant will it be?
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Unknown oedipus: ??3: How elegant will it be? ←
14:43:11 <oedipus> SP: future-proofing browsers
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Steven Pemberton: future-proofing browsers [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:43:36 <oedipus> Roland: seemed reasonable when read it; part of package of things we have to query whether UA supports particular namespace
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Roland Merrick: seemed reasonable when read it; part of package of things we have to query whether UA supports particular namespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:43:37 <Zakim> -Tina
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14:43:38 <oedipus> SP:
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14:43:49 <Tina> (My connection is poorly - again)
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14:43:59 <oedipus> Roland: if get into this area, are there similar things to talk about
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Roland Merrick: if get into this area, are there similar things to talk about [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:44:32 <oedipus> SP: have selectors for media types derived from CSS; turned off if current media not matched; turns off element if that namespace is implemented
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Steven Pemberton: have selectors for media types derived from CSS; turned off if current media not matched; turns off element if that namespace is implemented [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:44:43 <oedipus> SP: similar to media queries for stylesheets
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Steven Pemberton: similar to media queries for stylesheets [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:45:00 <oedipus> SP: put it in queue -- see what response we get
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Steven Pemberton: put it in queue -- see what response we get [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:45:42 <oedipus> SP: clarification: media queries for any media -- paragraph media=print so only used in printed
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Steven Pemberton: clarification: media queries for any media -- paragraph media=print so only used in printed [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:45:57 <oedipus> TOPIC: agenda item 6: Testing XHTML Basic 1.1
14:46:36 <oedipus> SP: getting XHTML 1.1 out of CR; only thing not tested is target and inputmode; how should we go about getting tests into oma test suite
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Steven Pemberton: getting XHTML 1.1 out of CR; only thing not tested is target and inputmode; how should we go about getting tests into oma test suite [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:47:26 <oedipus> testing mobile 1.2 -- current testers will have inputmode tagged so can use in mobile 1.0 and 1.2 -- inputmode tagged can reuse?
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Unknown oedipus: testing mobile 1.2 -- current testers will have inputmode tagged so can use in mobile 1.0 and 1.2 -- inputmode tagged can reuse? ←
14:47:37 <oedipus> SP: are optional -- ignored for other versions in test suite
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Steven Pemberton: are optional -- ignored for other versions in test suite [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:47:48 <oedipus> think will satisfy 1.1 test requirements
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Unknown oedipus: think will satisfy 1.1 test requirements ←
14:48:07 <oedipus> SP: want volunteer to construct test materials for what is not currenlty being tested
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Steven Pemberton: want volunteer to construct test materials for what is not currenlty being tested [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:48:20 <oedipus> tests actually in test suite, just not invoked if not germane
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Unknown oedipus: tests actually in test suite, just not invoked if not germane ←
14:48:30 <oedipus> SP: possible to get copy of tests?
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Steven Pemberton: possible to get copy of tests? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:48:50 <oedipus> OMA provides URI for test site, test site includes materials for inputmode
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Unknown oedipus: OMA provides URI for test site, test site includes materials for inputmode ←
14:48:59 <oedipus> SP: please resend URI to public-xhtml2
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Steven Pemberton: please resend URI to public-xhtml2 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:49:19 <oedipus> ACTION: Jan resend URI of OMA test suite to public-xhtml2
ACTION: Jan resend URI of OMA test suite to public-xhtml2 ←
14:50:37 <oedipus> SP: should we use namespace name or prefix? ended up writing prefix because if no default, needs to be there -- author friendlier;
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Steven Pemberton: should we use namespace name or prefix? ended up writing prefix because if no default, needs to be there -- author friendlier; [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:50:54 <oedipus> Roland: cut-and-paste this script into it and it will work
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Roland Merrick: cut-and-paste this script into it and it will work [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:51:05 <oedipus> SP: cut-and-paste bug-bear for those who fear namespaces
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Steven Pemberton: cut-and-paste bug-bear for those who fear namespaces [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:51:10 <oedipus> SP: other issues?
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Steven Pemberton: other issues? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:51:25 <oedipus> SP: away for 3 weeks, be back on call in 4 weeks time
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Steven Pemberton: away for 3 weeks, be back on call in 4 weeks time [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:51:35 <Zakim> -Roland_
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14:51:40 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmiata
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14:51:41 <Zakim> -Steven
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14:51:41 <oedipus> SP: don't forget about Face2face
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Steven Pemberton: don't forget about Face2face [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ] ←
14:51:42 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
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14:51:44 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland_, Steven, +46.7.08.5.aaaa, Tina, Gregory_Rosmiata, yamx
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14:52:06 <oedipus> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
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14:52:20 <oedipus> rrsagent, create minutes
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14:52:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
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14:52:35 <oedipus> rrsagent, format minutes
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14:52:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
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14:52:43 <oedipus> rrsagent, publish minutes
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Unknown oedipus: rrsagent, publish minutes ←
14:52:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
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14:53:51 <oedipus> ScribeNick: oedipus
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14:53:58 <oedipus> Scribe: Gregory J. Rosmaita
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14:54:02 <oedipus> rrsagent, create minutes
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Unknown oedipus: rrsagent, create minutes ←
14:54:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
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14:54:07 <oedipus> rrsagent, publish minutes
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14:54:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus
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14:54:43 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part
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14:54:43 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-actions.rdf : ←
14:54:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane - add input mode to XHTML 1.1 second edition [1]
ACTION: Shane - add input mode to XHTML 1.1 second edition [1] ←
14:54:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-irc#T14-17-25
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14:54:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: GJR to explain what WAI ARIA attempting to achieve and crossover with RDFa let task force know via public-rdfa-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org [2]
ACTION: GJR to explain what WAI ARIA attempting to achieve and crossover with RDFa let task force know via public-rdfa-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org [2] ←
14:54:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-irc#T14-38-44
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14:54:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jan resend URI of OMA test suite to public-xhtml2 [3]
ACTION: Jan resend URI of OMA test suite to public-xhtml2 [3] ←
14:54:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-irc#T14-49-19
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