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13:58:34 <AndyS> trackbot, make logs public
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13:58:38 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:58:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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13:58:39 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:58:39 <trackbot> Date: 31 May 2011
13:58:39 <trackbot> Sorry, AndyS, I don't understand 'trackbot, make logs public'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
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13:58:42 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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13:58:43 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL
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13:58:43 <Zakim> ok, LeeF, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM already started
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13:58:48 <Zakim> +??P8
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13:58:53 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P8 is me
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13:58:53 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
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13:59:15 <Zakim> +??P9
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13:59:18 <AndyS> zakim, ??P9 is me
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13:59:18 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
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13:59:41 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
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13:59:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara, AndyS
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13:59:45 <Zakim> +LeeF
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14:00:08 <AndyS> zakim, who is making noise?
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14:00:16 <Zakim> +MattPerry
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14:00:20 <Zakim> AndyS, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
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14:01:48 <LeeF> zakim, who's here?
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14:01:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara, AndyS, LeeF, MattPerry
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14:01:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see SteveH_, RRSAgent, Zakim, cbuilara, MattPerry, AndyS, LeeF, SteveH, iv_an_ru_, pgearon, NickH, alepas, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see SteveH_, RRSAgent, Zakim, cbuilara, MattPerry, AndyS, LeeF, SteveH, iv_an_ru_, pgearon, NickH, alepas, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro ←
14:02:14 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-05-31
14:02:27 <LeeF> scribenick: MattPerry
(Scribe set to Matthew Perry)
14:02:49 <LeeF> Regrets: bglimm, olivier, chime, axel, greg
14:03:01 <Zakim> +??P12
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14:03:08 <SteveH_> Zakim, ??P12 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:03:08 <Zakim> +SteveH_; got it
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14:04:06 <LeeF> topic: admin
14:04:10 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-24
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-24 ←
14:04:25 <Zakim> +sandro
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14:04:54 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-24
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-24 ←
14:05:04 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2011-06-07 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Carlos)
Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2011-06-07 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Carlos) ←
14:05:06 <SteveH> Zakim, SteveH_ is me
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14:05:06 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
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14:05:23 <MattPerry> LeeF: Next meeting is during SemTech, should we have a meeting?
Lee Feigenbaum: Next meeting is during SemTech, should we have a meeting? ←
14:05:26 <AndyS> At SemTech -- regrets for next week
Andy Seaborne: At SemTech -- regrets for next week ←
14:05:32 <LeeF> At SemTech
Lee Feigenbaum: At SemTech ←
14:05:35 <MattPerry> At SemTech -- regrets
At SemTech -- regrets ←
14:05:38 <sandro> At SemTech
Sandro Hawke: At SemTech ←
14:05:39 <SteveH> I won't be at SemTech
Steve Harris: I won't be at SemTech ←
14:05:51 <cbuilara> I won't be at SemTech
Carlos Buil Aranda: I won't be at SemTech ←
14:05:52 <bglimm> I won't be at SemTech
Birte Glimm: I won't be at SemTech ←
14:06:20 <MattPerry> LeeF: I will catch up with Axel to decide on next meeting
Lee Feigenbaum: I will catch up with Axel to decide on next meeting ←
14:06:37 <SteveH> I'm at risk for next week anyway
Steve Harris: I'm at risk for next week anyway ←
14:06:39 <LeeF> topic: Charter
14:07:31 <MattPerry> LeeF: We set request to publish JSON document as FPWD and Last Call, but our charter said that JSON document is a Note ... this is a problem
Lee Feigenbaum: We set request to publish JSON document as FPWD and Last Call, but our charter said that JSON document is a Note ... this is a problem ←
14:07:59 <MattPerry> ... We will need to change the charter anyway for other things
... We will need to change the charter anyway for other things ←
14:08:11 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/sparql-charter
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2011/05/sparql-charter ←
14:08:34 <MattPerry> ... Will publish other docs as last call when new charter is approved
... Will publish other docs as last call when new charter is approved ←
14:08:58 <MattPerry> @sandro: have updated charter based on reviews ... we are in good shape
@sandro: have updated charter based on reviews ... we are in good shape ←
14:08:59 <Zakim> +pgearon
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14:10:03 <MattPerry> ... process going forward is that it gets send to advisory committee to review
... process going forward is that it gets sent to advisory committee to review ←
14:10:11 <MattPerry> s/send/sent
14:10:38 <MattPerry> LeeF: should we try to target tomorrow's committee meeting?
Lee Feigenbaum: should we try to target tomorrow's committee meeting? ←
14:10:41 <MattPerry> @sandro: yes
@sandro: yes ←
14:11:43 <MattPerry> LeeF: I'm inclined to publish all remaining docs together
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm inclined to publish all remaining docs together ←
14:12:15 <MattPerry> AndyS: we're looking at mid July earliest?
Andy Seaborne: we're looking at mid July earliest? ←
14:13:09 <MattPerry> LeeF: probably ... could be early July
Lee Feigenbaum: probably ... could be early July ←
14:13:18 <LeeF> topic: Comments
14:13:20 <cbuilara> +q
Carlos Buil Aranda: +q ←
14:13:29 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:13:31 <LeeF> ack cbuilara
Lee Feigenbaum: ack cbuilara ←
14:13:49 <MattPerry> cbuilara: publish docs in mid July for last call?
Carlos Buil Aranda: publish docs in mid July for last call? ←
14:13:53 <MattPerry> LeeF: yes
Lee Feigenbaum: yes ←
14:15:09 <MattPerry> LeeF: Andy sent out some responses about JSON document
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy sent out some responses about JSON document ←
14:16:14 <MattPerry> ... some editoral things from Ivan
... some editoral things from Ivan ←
14:16:34 <MattPerry> Andy: I have looked at those ... mostly editoral
Andy Seaborne: I have looked at those ... mostly editoral ←
14:18:10 <MattPerry> ... nothing worrisome
... nothing worrisome ←
14:19:08 <AndyS> SimonJ pinged me to ask if his comment had been received - I said yes and pointed to the archive.
Andy Seaborne: SimonJ pinged me to ask if his comment had been received - I said yes and pointed to the archive. ←
14:19:09 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/0041.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/0041.html ←
14:19:24 <MattPerry> LeeF: Only other commen is from Michael Hausenblas
Lee Feigenbaum: Only other commen is from Michael Hausenblas ←
14:19:46 <MattPerry> ... He is concerned that it will be tough to do SPARQL update in large cluster environments
... He is concerned that it will be tough to do SPARQL update in large cluster environments ←
14:20:03 <MattPerry> ... requested a note about this
... requested a note about this ←
14:20:05 <AndyS> I asked him about journal based DBs which have update and append style performance
Andy Seaborne: I asked him about journal based DBs which have update and append style performance ←
14:20:14 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=CommentResponse:MH-LC-1
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=CommentResponse:MH-LC-1 ←
14:20:41 <SteveH> +1 to LeeF, not our role
Steve Harris: +1 to LeeF, not our role ←
14:20:50 <MattPerry> LeeF: It's not our role as spec drafters to talk about implementation strategies
Lee Feigenbaum: It's not our role as spec drafters to talk about implementation strategies ←
14:21:01 <AndyS> +1 to LeeF's draft
Andy Seaborne: +1 to LeeF's draft ←
14:21:35 <LeeF> topic: test case actions
14:22:14 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open ←
14:23:01 <MattPerry> pgearon: I've made a start on my actions, but it will take some more time
Paula Gearon: I've made a start on my actions, but it will take some more time ←
14:23:58 <MattPerry> LeeF: Axel and I have actions for Federated Query tests ... will start working on them
Lee Feigenbaum: Axel and I have actions for Federated Query tests ... will start working on them ←
14:24:14 <MattPerry> LeeF: ... action to investigate reuse of old scripts
Lee Feigenbaum: ... action to investigate reuse of old scripts ←
14:24:17 <AndyS> eric's scripts
Andy Seaborne: eric's scripts ←
14:24:39 <MattPerry> LeeF: this is something we should do by CR
Lee Feigenbaum: this is something we should do by CR ←
14:24:54 <sandro> q+ to ask Chartering question
Sandro Hawke: q+ to ask Chartering question ←
14:25:01 <MattPerry> LeeF: Steve still has pending actions for aggregate tests
Lee Feigenbaum: Steve still has pending actions for aggregate tests ←
14:25:33 <MattPerry> SteveH: I have not had time yet
Steve Harris: I have not had time yet ←
14:26:06 <AndyS> Tests are very similar to SPARQL 1.0 - just a new URIs for test types
Andy Seaborne: Tests are very similar to SPARQL 1.0 - just a new URIs for test types ←
14:26:39 <MattPerry> LeeF: Any more binind tests?
Lee Feigenbaum: Any more binding tests? ←
14:26:57 <LeeF> close ACTION-376
Lee Feigenbaum: close ACTION-376 ←
14:26:57 <trackbot> ACTION-376 Look at BINDINGS tests closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-376 Look at BINDINGS tests closed ←
14:27:20 <MattPerry> LeeF: will do my action on IF tests
Lee Feigenbaum: will do my action on IF tests ←
14:27:38 <MattPerry> s/binind/binding
14:28:33 <AndyS> ericP?
Andy Seaborne: ericP? ←
14:28:52 <MattPerry> LeeF: we have split up the function tests, but there are no actions for them.
Lee Feigenbaum: we have split up the function tests, but there are no actions for them. ←
14:29:10 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to figure out what the status of tests for the new SPARQL 1.1 functions are
ACTION: Lee to figure out what the status of tests for the new SPARQL 1.1 functions are ←
14:29:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-478 - Figure out what the status of tests for the new SPARQL 1.1 functions are [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-06-07].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-478 - Figure out what the status of tests for the new SPARQL 1.1 functions are [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-06-07]. ←
14:29:32 <MattPerry> LeeF: Any more discussion points for today
Lee Feigenbaum: Any more discussion points for today ←
14:29:55 <MattPerry> @sandro: Wanted to see what to publish to overview document as: Rec or Note?
@sandro: Wanted to see what to publish to overview document as: Rec or Note? ←
14:30:15 <MattPerry> @sandor: I lean toward recommendation
@sandor: I lean toward recommendation ←
14:30:28 <MattPerry> @sandro: I lean toward recommendation
@sandro: I lean toward recommendation ←
14:30:50 <MattPerry> LeeF: will publish as recommendation
Lee Feigenbaum: will publish as recommendation ←
14:30:58 <AndyS> Bye all!
Andy Seaborne: Bye all! ←
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14:31:01 <Zakim> -LeeF
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14:31:01 <Zakim> -pgearon
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14:31:02 <Zakim> -MattPerry
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14:31:02 <Zakim> -SteveH
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14:31:05 <Zakim> -cbuilara
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14:31:07 <Zakim> -AndyS
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14:31:10 <Zakim> Attendees were cbuilara, AndyS, LeeF, MattPerry, sandro, SteveH, pgearon
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14:48:53 <ericP> AndyS, you were looking for me?
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