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RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 20 October 2011

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Oct/0047.html
Seen
Gregg Kellogg, Ivan Herman, Manu Sporny, Niklas Lindström, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Ted Thibodeau
Guests
Niklas Lindström
Chair
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Manu Sporny
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Adopt IANA Link Type Registry terms ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ) as terms that will be specified for the following RDFa 1.1 languages XHTML1, HTML5, XHTML5. link
  2. Add text to RDFa Core 1.1 to allow RDFa attributes to be placed into a namespace, where the namespace MUST be the xhtml namespace. link
Topics
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13:55:54 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
13:55:54 <trackbot> Date: 20 October 2011
13:55:58 <manu1> Chair: Manu
13:47:42 <manu1> Guest: Niklas (lindstream) Lindström
14:00:07 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started

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14:00:08 <Zakim> +??P6

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14:00:18 <niklasl> zakim, I am ??P6

Niklas Lindström: zakim, I am ??P6

14:00:18 <Zakim> +niklasl; got it

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14:00:36 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

14:00:36 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

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14:00:37 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

14:01:10 <Zakim> +??P8

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14:01:16 <gkellogg> zakim, I am ??P8

Gregg Kellogg: zakim, I am ??P8

14:01:19 <Zakim> +gkellogg; got it

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14:01:40 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:01:49 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:01:49 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it

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14:01:51 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:01:51 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted

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14:01:56 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:01:58 <manu1> zakim, I am ??P2

Manu Sporny: zakim, I am ??P2

14:01:59 <Zakim> +manu1; got it

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14:02:46 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

14:02:47 <manu1> zakim, who is on the call?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call?

14:02:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed (muted), manu1, Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed (muted), manu1, Steven

14:02:50 <manu1> zakim, who is making noise?

Manu Sporny: zakim, who is making noise?

14:03:01 <Zakim> manu1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ivan (52%), Steven (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: manu1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ivan (52%), Steven (4%)

14:05:10 <manu1> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Oct/0047.html
14:05:22 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:05:22 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted

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14:05:53 <manu1> Topic: ISSUE-108: Refine/deprecate Link relations
14:06:46 <MacTed> manu1: we're trying to figure out what link relations should be in initial context

Manu Sporny: we're trying to figure out what link relations should be in initial context [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:07:17 <MacTed> ... HTML5 spec appears to define a couple of link relations in way incompatible to XHTML

Ted Thibodeau: ... HTML5 spec appears to define a couple of link relations in way incompatible to XHTML

14:07:30 <MacTed> ... depending on who reads

Ted Thibodeau: ... depending on who reads

14:08:24 <manu1> +1 - I hate the stylesheet references as well

Manu Sporny: +1 - I hate the stylesheet references as well

14:08:27 <MacTed> ivan: as HTML5 author, these relationships are troublesome and distracting, without much (any?) added value

Ivan Herman: as HTML5 author, these relationships are troublesome and distracting, without much (any?) added value [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:09:18 <manu1> q+ to discuss HTML5 and XHTML1 @rel values.

Manu Sporny: q+ to discuss HTML5 and XHTML1 @rel values.

14:09:39 <MacTed> ... HTML5 radically reduces @rel relationship choices vs XHTML1

Ted Thibodeau: ... HTML5 radically reduces @rel relationship choices vs XHTML1

14:10:14 <manu1> ack manu1

Manu Sporny: ack manu1

14:10:14 <Zakim> manu1, you wanted to discuss HTML5 and XHTML1 @rel values.

Zakim IRC Bot: manu1, you wanted to discuss HTML5 and XHTML1 @rel values.

14:11:56 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:11:57 <niklasl> q+ to ask about backcompat

Niklas Lindström: q+ to ask about backcompat

14:12:18 <manu1> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:12:23 <MacTed> manu1 sees 2 proposals --  1. create different initial RDFa contexts for HTML5 and for XHTML1; 2. drop all @rel when dealing with HTML5, but retain them when dealing with XHTML1

Manu Sporny: sees 2 proposals -- 1. create different initial RDFa contexts for HTML5 and for XHTML1; 2. drop all @rel when dealing with HTML5, but retain them when dealing with XHTML1 [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:12:38 <MacTed> s/manu1 sees/manu1: sees/
14:13:54 <MacTed> ivan: major confusion likely if we keep all the @rel from XHTML1

Ivan Herman: major confusion likely if we keep all the @rel from XHTML1 [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:14:00 <manu1> ack niklas

Manu Sporny: ack niklas

14:14:00 <Zakim> niklasl, you wanted to ask about backcompat

Zakim IRC Bot: niklasl, you wanted to ask about backcompat

14:14:22 <niklasl> http://labs.creativecommons.org/2011/ccrel-guide/#License_metadata

Niklas Lindström: http://labs.creativecommons.org/2011/ccrel-guide/#License_metadata

14:14:32 <manu1> This is from our new charter, Ivan is correct in that we're allowed to make this change per the charter: "As exceptions to this general goal, some small non-compatible changes with regard to the defaults on XML Literals, as well as whether all reserved @rel/@rev attribute values would automatically generate RDF triples, may be introduced. No radical redefinition of the RDFa language is envisaged."

Manu Sporny: This is from our new charter, Ivan is correct in that we're allowed to make this change per the charter: "As exceptions to this general goal, some small non-compatible changes with regard to the defaults on XML Literals, as well as whether all reserved @rel/@rev attribute values would automatically generate RDF triples, may be introduced. No radical redefinition of the RDFa language is envisaged."

14:14:48 <MacTed> niklasl: Creative Commons advice...  against dropping all @rel, because they recommend @rel=license; see http://labs.creativecommons.org/2011/ccrel-guide/#License_metadata

Niklas Lindström: Creative Commons advice... against dropping all @rel, because they recommend @rel=license; see http://labs.creativecommons.org/2011/ccrel-guide/#License_metadata [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:16:06 <niklasl> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes

Niklas Lindström: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes

14:16:16 <MacTed> ivan: CC does advise this...  so we should probably keep that one, which is part of the HTML5 set

Ivan Herman: CC does advise this... so we should probably keep that one, which is part of the HTML5 set [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:17:08 <MacTed> manu: being too aggressive isn't too big a deal, we can always add stuff back to the initial context document

Manu Sporny: being too aggressive isn't too big a deal, we can always add stuff back to the initial context document [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:17:20 <niklasl> .. interesting: whatwg also says: " For historical reasons, user agents must also treat the keyword "copyright" like the license keyword."

Niklas Lindström: .. interesting: whatwg also says: " For historical reasons, user agents must also treat the keyword "copyright" like the license keyword."

14:17:54 <manu1> MacTed: I'm concerned about taking everything out and then putting stuff in... if the initial context document is too volatile, it becomes a problem.

Ted Thibodeau: I'm concerned about taking everything out and then putting stuff in... if the initial context document is too volatile, it becomes a problem. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ]

14:18:29 <MacTed> ivan: 14 entries in WHATWG's current list -- http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes

Ivan Herman: 14 entries in WHATWG's current list -- http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:19:26 <ivan> We should keep: author, license, next, prev,

Ivan Herman: We should keep: author, license, next, prev,

14:19:56 <Steven> q+

Steven Pemberton: q+

14:20:02 <ivan> We should drop: alternate, bookmark, help, icon, nofollow, noreferrer prefetch search stylsheet tag

Ivan Herman: We should drop: alternate, bookmark, help, icon, nofollow, noreferrer prefetch search stylsheet tag

14:20:16 <manu1> ack Steven

Manu Sporny: ack Steven

14:20:31 <MacTed> ... these definitely have value -- author, license, next, prev

Ted Thibodeau: ... these definitely have value -- author, license, next, prev

14:20:31 <MacTed> ... these are questionable -- alternate, bookmark, help, icon, nofollow, noreferrer, prefetch, search, stylsheet, tag

Ted Thibodeau: ... these are questionable -- alternate, bookmark, help, icon, nofollow, noreferrer, prefetch, search, stylsheet, tag

14:20:58 <MacTed> Steven: don't see what the win is for making extra limitation

Steven Pemberton: don't see what the win is for making extra limitation [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:22:05 <manu1> q+ to talk about erroneous triples.

Manu Sporny: q+ to talk about erroneous triples.

14:22:40 <MacTed> [General discussion about stylesheet and other @rel-generated triples - do they provide value? Arguments both ways.]

Ted Thibodeau: [General discussion about stylesheet and other @rel-generated triples - do they provide value? Arguments both ways.]

14:23:30 <manu1> ack manu1

Manu Sporny: ack manu1

14:23:30 <Zakim> manu1, you wanted to talk about erroneous triples.

Zakim IRC Bot: manu1, you wanted to talk about erroneous triples.

14:23:56 <MacTed> manu: one pitfall is putting features in because they /might/ have a use in the future... we shouldn't put stuff in that nobody has used in the past 3 years and we don't think people will use in the future.

Manu Sporny: one pitfall is putting features in because they /might/ have a use in the future... we shouldn't put stuff in that nobody has used in the past 3 years and we don't think people will use in the future. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:28:28 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:29:22 <MacTed> [Further discussion about value (or lack) of any data tied to these relations]

Ted Thibodeau: [Further discussion about value (or lack) of any data tied to these relations]

14:29:52 <ivan> We could just refer to this list: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes

Ivan Herman: We could just refer to this list: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#linkTypes

14:30:09 <niklasl> q+

Niklas Lindström: q+

14:30:14 <manu1> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:30:15 <ivan> ack ivan

Ivan Herman: ack ivan

14:30:17 <manu1> ack niklasl

Manu Sporny: ack niklasl

14:30:58 <MacTed> niklasl: does initial context override @vocab?  or vice versa?

Niklas Lindström: does initial context override @vocab? or vice versa? [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:31:05 <niklasl> .. vocab="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#”

Niklas Lindström: .. vocab="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#”

14:31:11 <MacTed> manu: @vocab overrides the initial context - I don't think defining a default vocabulary is a good idea.

Manu Sporny: @vocab overrides the initial context - I don't think defining a default vocabulary is a good idea. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:32:23 <MacTed> Ivan: I agree, we should not do that.

Ivan Herman: I agree, we should not do that. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:34:55 <niklasl> So, we could use the terms from here? http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml

Niklas Lindström: So, we could use the terms from here? http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml

14:38:03 <niklasl> q+

Niklas Lindström: q+

14:38:13 <MacTed> [ discussion about IANA registry list -- http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ]

Ted Thibodeau: [ discussion about IANA registry list -- http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ]

14:39:07 <MacTed> ivan: concerned with which URIs are assigned to each term in that registry, and whether the definitions linked from that registry list are correct/current.

Ivan Herman: concerned with which URIs are assigned to each term in that registry, and whether the definitions linked from that registry list are correct/current. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:39:44 <niklasl> http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/AtomOwl.html uses @prefix iana: <http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation/>

Niklas Lindström: http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/AtomOwl.html uses @prefix iana: <http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation/>

14:41:00 <niklasl> .. vocab="http://www.w3.org/ns/link-relations#” - we could do that.

Niklas Lindström: .. vocab="http://www.w3.org/ns/link-relations#” - we could do that.

14:41:34 <MacTed> MacTed: +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:41:43 <niklasl> q+

Niklas Lindström: q+

14:42:51 <manu1> ACTION: Ivan to contact Mark Nottingham about a permanent URL to the IANA Link Type Registry for use in RDF - need URIs for the relation-names.

ACTION: Ivan to contact Mark Nottingham about a permanent URL to the IANA Link Type Registry for use in RDF - need URIs for the relation-names.

14:42:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Contact Mark Nottingham about a permanent URL to the IANA Link Type Registry for use in RDF - need URIs for the relation-names. [on Ivan Herman - due 2011-10-27].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-100 - Contact Mark Nottingham about a permanent URL to the IANA Link Type Registry for use in RDF - need URIs for the relation-names. [on Ivan Herman - due 2011-10-27].

14:45:14 <MacTed> niklasl: sees need for some URI centralization

Niklas Lindström: sees need for some URI centralization [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:45:42 <MacTed> ivan: for future, after advice from Mark Nottingham per ACTION-100

Ivan Herman: for future, after advice from Mark Nottingham per ACTION-100 [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:46:31 <niklasl> (.. e.g. linkrelvocab:describedby  owl:equivalentProperty powder:describedby)

Niklas Lindström: (.. e.g. linkrelvocab:describedby owl:equivalentProperty powder:describedby)

14:47:37 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

14:48:23 <manu1> PROPOSAL: Adopt IANA Link Type Registry terms ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ) as terms that will be specified for the following RDFa 1.1 languages XHTML1, HTML5, XHTML5.

PROPOSED: Adopt IANA Link Type Registry terms ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ) as terms that will be specified for the following RDFa 1.1 languages XHTML1, HTML5, XHTML5.

14:48:26 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

14:48:28 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?

Shane McCarron: zakim, who is here?

14:48:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, manu1, Steven, ??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, manu1, Steven, ??P1

14:48:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, Steven, ivan, niklasl, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, danbri, gkellogg, trackbot, manu, manu1

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ShaneM, Steven, ivan, niklasl, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, danbri, gkellogg, trackbot, manu, manu1

14:48:43 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

14:48:47 <manu1> +1

Manu Sporny: +1

14:48:50 <niklasl> +1 (at least for those)

Niklas Lindström: +1 (at least for those)

14:48:53 <gkellogg> +1

Gregg Kellogg: +1

14:48:55 <ShaneM> zakim, ??P1 is ShaneM

Shane McCarron: zakim, ??P1 is ShaneM

14:48:55 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it

14:49:01 <MacTed> MacTed: +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:49:42 <MacTed> RESOLVED: Adopt IANA Link Type Registry terms ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ) as terms that will be specified for the following RDFa 1.1 languages XHTML1, HTML5, XHTML5.

RESOLVED: Adopt IANA Link Type Registry terms ( http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml ) as terms that will be specified for the following RDFa 1.1 languages XHTML1, HTML5, XHTML5.

14:49:57 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:50:02 <ivan> ack niklasl

Ivan Herman: ack niklasl

14:50:12 <manu1> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:52:15 <gkellogg> q+

Gregg Kellogg: q+

14:52:23 <manu1> ack gkellogg

Manu Sporny: ack gkellogg

14:53:30 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:53:45 <MacTed> TOPIC: RDFa Core 1.1 Working Draft

2. RDFa Core 1.1 Working Draft

14:53:54 <manu1> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:54:06 <MacTed> [discussion of whether we've resolved all outstanding technical issues]

Ted Thibodeau: [discussion of whether we've resolved all outstanding technical issues]

14:54:31 <gkellogg> q+

Gregg Kellogg: q+

14:55:15 <MacTed> manu: Let's publish this WD, and tell people that this will be the last chance for changes (preventing a 4th Last Call)

Manu Sporny: Let's publish this WD, and tell people that this will be the last chance for changes (preventing a 4th Last Call) [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:55:58 <manu1> ack gkellogg

Manu Sporny: ack gkellogg

14:56:12 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:56:18 <manu1> ack ivan

Manu Sporny: ack ivan

14:56:23 <MacTed> ivan: there may be some URI issues due to shifts from profile to context... but mostly about how nice the URLs look, not about functionality, just cosmetic stuff.

Ivan Herman: there may be some URI issues due to shifts from profile to context... but mostly about how nice the URLs look, not about functionality, just cosmetic stuff. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:57:48 <MacTed> TAG has a(nother) thread about what RDFa should say about fragIDs

Ted Thibodeau: TAG has a(nother) thread about what RDFa should say about fragIDs

14:57:48 <MacTed> manu1: We have inserted what they wanted into the spec, they can raise an issue later on if they want to do so.

Manu Sporny: We have inserted what they wanted into the spec, they can raise an issue later on if they want to do so. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:57:48 <MacTed> ShaneM: We need to discuss Henry Thompson's issue, it's the last one.

Shane McCarron: We need to discuss Henry Thompson's issue, it's the last one. [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

14:58:32 <manu1> Topic: Support for integration with XML

3. Support for integration with XML

14:58:39 <manu1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Oct/0051.html

Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Oct/0051.html

14:58:39 <Steven> q+

Steven Pemberton: q+

14:58:58 <niklasl> q+

Niklas Lindström: q+

14:59:06 <manu1> ack Steven

Manu Sporny: ack Steven

15:00:53 <manu1> ack niklasl

Manu Sporny: ack niklasl

15:01:11 <Steven> Steven: XHTML+RDFa uses modularization, which says use the xhtml: prefix, and ODF has done this

Steven Pemberton: XHTML+RDFa uses modularization, which says use the xhtml: prefix, and ODF has done this [ Scribe Assist by Steven Pemberton ]

15:01:38 <MacTed> niklasl: using RDFa in XSLT requires an XML namespace prefix

Niklas Lindström: using RDFa in XSLT requires an XML namespace prefix [ Scribe Assist by Ted Thibodeau ]

15:01:56 <ShaneM> If the Host Language uses XML Namespaces [XML-NAMES], the attributes in this specification should be defined in 'no namespace'. (e.g., when the attributes are used on elements in the Host Language's namespace, they can be used with no qualifying prefix: <myml:myElement property="next">).

Shane McCarron: If the Host Language uses XML Namespaces [XML-NAMES], the attributes in this specification should be defined in 'no namespace'. (e.g., when the attributes are used on elements in the Host Language's namespace, they can be used with no qualifying prefix: <myml:myElement property="next">).

15:02:15 <manu1> scribenick: manu1

(Scribe set to Manu Sporny)

15:02:21 <ShaneM> If the Host Language has its own definition for any attribute defined in this specification, that definition must be such that the processing required by this specification remains possible when the attribute is used in a way consistent with the requirements herein.

Shane McCarron: If the Host Language has its own definition for any attribute defined in this specification, that definition must be such that the processing required by this specification remains possible when the attribute is used in a way consistent with the requirements herein.

15:02:49 <Zakim> -MacTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed

15:04:48 <manu1> Shane: This is an issue - if you ran an RDFa processor on an XML document w/ @property, it would process it. How do people integrate RDFa into XML languages that either conflict w/ the RDFa attributes, or want to integrate it using an XML namespace?

Shane McCarron: This is an issue - if you ran an RDFa processor on an XML document w/ @property, it would process it. How do people integrate RDFa into XML languages that either conflict w/ the RDFa attributes, or want to integrate it using an XML namespace?

15:07:53 <manu1> Manu: Yes, but the issue is - does anyone need this? Who will use XSLT+RDFa?

Manu Sporny: Yes, but the issue is - does anyone need this? Who will use XSLT+RDFa?

15:08:24 <manu1> Shane: The spec allows RDFa attributes to be in no namespace, and it allows them to be in the XHTML namespace.

Shane McCarron: The spec allows RDFa attributes to be in no namespace, and it allows them to be in the XHTML namespace.

15:08:37 <manu1> Gregg: Should RDFa Core say you should use the XHTML namespace?

Gregg Kellogg: Should RDFa Core say you should use the XHTML namespace?

15:08:45 <manu1> Steven: it may as well say that, use the same namespace... not ideal, but it's what ODF decided to do and we shouldn't go against that if we don't have to.

Steven Pemberton: it may as well say that, use the same namespace... not ideal, but it's what ODF decided to do and we shouldn't go against that if we don't have to.

15:13:19 <manu1> PROPOSAL: Add text to RDFa Core 1.1 to allow RDFa attributes to be placed into a namespace, where the namespace MUST be the xhtml namespace.

PROPOSED: Add text to RDFa Core 1.1 to allow RDFa attributes to be placed into a namespace, where the namespace MUST be the xhtml namespace.

15:13:38 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

15:13:40 <Steven> +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

15:13:42 <ivan> 0

Ivan Herman: 0

15:13:46 <gkellogg> +1

Gregg Kellogg: +1

15:13:47 <manu1> +1

+1

15:13:55 <niklasl> +1

Niklas Lindström: +1

15:14:05 <manu1> RESOLVED: Add text to RDFa Core 1.1 to allow RDFa attributes to be placed into a namespace, where the namespace MUST be the xhtml namespace.

RESOLVED: Add text to RDFa Core 1.1 to allow RDFa attributes to be placed into a namespace, where the namespace MUST be the xhtml namespace.

15:14:33 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

15:15:27 <ShaneM> "If a host language requires that RDFa attributes be used in a namespace, that namespace must be http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

Shane McCarron: "If a host language requires that RDFa attributes be used in a namespace, that namespace must be http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

15:15:59 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

15:16:01 <Zakim> -manu1

Zakim IRC Bot: -manu1

15:16:01 <Zakim> -gkellogg

Zakim IRC Bot: -gkellogg

15:16:07 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

15:16:11 <Zakim> -niklasl

Zakim IRC Bot: -niklasl

15:16:12 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended

15:16:14 <Zakim> Attendees were niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, manu1, Steven, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were niklasl, Ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, manu1, Steven, ShaneM



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