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RDFa in XHTML Task Force

Minutes of 14 January 2010

Agenda

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0031.html

Present

Unknown Manu_Sporny, Unknown Ivan_Herman, Unknown Shane_McCarron

Regrets

Unknown Ben_Adida

Chair

Unknown Sporny

Scribe

Unknown Shane_McCarron, Unknown ShaneM

Previous Meeting

http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

None.

Topics

Action Items
Chartering process update
RDFa Working Group Authoring Tools
HTML RDFa heartbeat draft
RDFa Vocabularies

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15:11:36 <manu> zakim, this will be rdfa

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15:11:36 <Zakim> ok, manu; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 49 minutes

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15:11:55 <manu> rrsagent, make logs public

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15:11:58 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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15:12:13 <manu> Meeting: RDFa in XHTML Task Force

15:12:17 <manu> Chair: Manu Sporny

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15:12:37 <manu> Present: Manu_Sporny, Ivan_Herman, Shane_McCarron

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15:12:41 <manu> Regrets: Ben_Adida

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15:13:10 <manu> Scribe: Shane_McCarron

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15:15:23 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0031.html

15:15:40 <manu> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html

15:16:50 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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15:58:51 <manu> zakim, I am ??P0

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15:58:51 <Zakim> +manu; got it

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15:58:56 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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15:58:56 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

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15:58:57 <Zakim> +Ivan

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15:59:49 <Zakim> +ShaneM

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16:01:40 <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM

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16:01:50 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items

1. Action Items

16:01:55 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html

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16:02:05 <Steven_> zakim, dial steven-617

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16:02:09 <Steven_> zakim, who is here?

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16:02:12 <Zakim> ok, Steven_; the call is being made

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16:02:20 <Zakim> +Steven

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16:02:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, Ivan, ShaneM, Steven (muted)

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16:02:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven_, ShaneM, RRSAgent, Zakim, manu, ivan

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16:02:44 <Steven_> zakim, who is muted?

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16:03:09 <Zakim> I see no one muted

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16:03:32 <ShaneM> ACTION:  Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] --done

ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] --done ←

16:03:52 <ShaneM> --done

--done ←

16:04:07 <ShaneM> ACTION:  Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] ←

16:04:08 <ShaneM> --done

--done ←

16:04:12 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html ←

16:04:24 <ShaneM> ACTION:  Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←

16:04:26 <ShaneM> --continues

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16:04:36 <ShaneM> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [recorded in ACTION-05]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-05] ←

16:04:38 <ShaneM> --continues

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16:04:44 <ShaneM> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]on07! [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in ACTION-07]on07!">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]on07! [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] ←

16:04:46 <ShaneM> --continues

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16:05:12 <ShaneM> TOPIC: Chartering process update

2. Chartering process update

16:05:14 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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16:05:14 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

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16:05:27 <ShaneM> ivan: nothing new to report

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16:05:54 <Zakim> +??P34

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16:06:00 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?

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16:06:00 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it

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16:06:24 <ShaneM> ivan: deadline is coming up.  Need to contact a few people before then so we ensure people who expressed interest have a change to sign up.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: deadline is coming up. Need to contact a few people before then so we ensure people who expressed interest have a chance to sign up. ←

16:06:32 <ShaneM> s/change/chance/

16:13:26 <ShaneM> TOPIC: RDFa Working Group Authoring Tools

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3. RDFa Working Group Authoring Tools

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16:15:04 <Zakim> ok, Steven_, I now associate you with Steven

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16:15:05 <ShaneM> manu: some members have been kicking ideas around privately.  looking at reSpec and CVS + something external for diffs

Unknown Manu_Sporny: some members have been kicking ideas around privately. looking at reSpec and CVS + something external for diffs ←

16:15:11 <Steven_> zakim, mute me

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16:15:11 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted

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16:16:28 <ShaneM> reSpec worked reasonably well for doing the Vocabulary document

reSpec worked reasonably well for doing the Vocabulary document ←

16:16:52 <ShaneM> ivan: other tool sets seem to require installing lots of stuff - high barrier to entry

Unknown Ivan_Herman: other tool sets seem to require installing lots of stuff - high barrier to entry ←

16:18:28 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: original thought was to use Ant so it was possible to run things on different platforms...  but that doesn't seem compatible with the model.

Unknown markbirbeck: original thought was to use Ant so it was possible to run things on different platforms... but that doesn't seem compatible with the model. ←

16:18:34 <Steven_> ack me

Unknown Steven_: ack me ←

16:19:13 <Steven_> q+

Unknown Steven_: q+ ←

16:19:37 <ShaneM> q+ to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa?

q+ to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa? ←

16:19:56 <ShaneM> ivan: need to ensure that the references it produces are up to date

Unknown Ivan_Herman: need to ensure that the references it produces are up to date ←

16:20:03 <manu> ack Steven

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack Steven ←

16:20:44 <ShaneM> Steven_: only fear is how we are going to produce diff-marked versions.  We need some way to produce these.

Unknown Steven_: only fear is how we are going to produce diff-marked versions. We need some way to produce these. ←

16:20:46 <manu> ack ShaneM

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ShaneM ←

16:20:46 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa?

Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, you wanted to ask if there is room to have it produce documents annotated with RDFa? ←

16:21:41 <ShaneM> ShaneM: are you authoring in HTML or wysiwyg

Unknown ShaneM: are you authoring in HTML or wysiwyg ←

16:21:47 <ShaneM> ivan: HTML(5).

Unknown Ivan_Herman: HTML(5). ←

16:22:14 <ShaneM> ivan: any RDFa that is put into the code would just stay there.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: any RDFa that is put into the code would just stay there. ←

16:23:07 <Steven_> zakim, mute me

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16:23:09 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted

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16:23:27 <ShaneM> ShaneM: can we have it produce XHTML?  Its a permitted format.

Unknown ShaneM: can we have it produce XHTML? Its a permitted format. ←

16:23:37 <ShaneM> manu: seems like it would be a simple change.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: seems like it would be a simple change. ←

16:24:25 <manu> s/TOPIC/Topic/

16:25:28 <ShaneM> ShaneM: CVS has the ability to run scripts - so we can have diffs generated automatically as part of the checkin

Unknown ShaneM: CVS has the ability to run scripts - so we can have diffs generated automatically as part of the checkin ←

16:26:12 <ShaneM> manu: we don't have a solution for PDF or for multi-page documents.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: we don't have a solution for PDF or for multi-page documents. ←

16:26:22 <Steven_> zakim, who is muted?

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16:26:22 <Zakim> I see no one muted

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16:26:28 <Steven_> zakim, mute me

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16:26:28 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted

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16:27:14 <ShaneM> manu: a multi-page document is a document that is split into sections with a master table of contents

Unknown Manu_Sporny: a multi-page document is a document that is split into sections with a master table of contents ←

16:27:30 <ShaneM> ivan: not convinced we need this because our specs are relatively small.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: not convinced we need this because our specs are relatively small. ←

16:27:44 <ShaneM> manu: having both versions is nice.  Not necessarily a high priority.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: having both versions is nice. Not necessarily a high priority. ←

16:28:40 <ShaneM> ShaneM: W3C already uses html2ps so... if we can identify the conventions that make that work it should be fine.

Unknown ShaneM: W3C already uses html2ps so... if we can identify the conventions that make that work it should be fine. ←

16:28:58 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html ←

16:29:00 <ShaneM> ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them.

ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. ←

16:29:21 <ShaneM> Topic: HTML RDFa heartbeat draft

4. HTML RDFa heartbeat draft

16:30:06 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#preserving-namespaces-via-coercion-to-infoset

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#preserving-namespaces-via-coercion-to-infoset ←

16:30:16 <ShaneM> manu: specified rules for maintaining namespaces in the generated DOM.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: specified rules for maintaining namespaces in the generated DOM. ←

16:30:39 <ShaneM> manu: also added informative sections describing how infoset based and dom 2 based processors work

Unknown Manu_Sporny: also added informative sections describing how infoset based and dom 2 based processors work ←

16:30:48 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#infoset-based-processors

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#infoset-based-processors ←

16:31:16 <manu> http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#dom-level-2-based-processors

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa.html#dom-level-2-based-processors ←

16:32:09 <ShaneM> feedback so far is fairly positive.  no one is attempting to block publication at this time.

feedback so far is fairly positive. no one is attempting to block publication at this time. ←

16:34:08 <ShaneM> ShaneM: not excited about codifying implementation algorithms

Unknown ShaneM: not excited about codifying implementation algorithms ←

16:34:37 <ShaneM> manu: testing people from user agent vendors seem excited about understanding the implementation methodology to limit the possibility of incompatibilities in the future.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: testing people from user agent vendors seem excited about understanding the implementation methodology to limit the possibility of incompatibilities in the future. ←

16:34:45 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: likes it.

Unknown markbirbeck: likes it. ←

16:35:40 <manu> Topic: RDFa Vocabularies

5. RDFa Vocabularies

16:36:18 <manu> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/specs/rdfa-vocab-20100111.html ←

16:37:45 <ShaneM> manu: Discussion about CORS

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Discussion about CORS ←

16:38:35 <ShaneM> uncertain if CORS is actually implemented in major browsers.

uncertain if CORS is actually implemented in major browsers. ←

16:40:42 <ShaneM> ivan: if CORS is not available, this vocab proposal seems hard to support

Unknown Ivan_Herman: if CORS is not available, this vocab proposal seems hard to support ←

16:41:26 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: had a hack for Safari that would support doing cross site retrieval via an iframe - but that didn't work in other user agents.

Unknown markbirbeck: had a hack for Safari that would support doing cross site retrieval via an iframe - but that didn't work in other user agents. ←

16:42:41 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: content negotiation should be part of the solution.  there is no need for a rich new syntax.  any existing syntax should be supportable.  RDFa, HTML, JSON...

Unknown markbirbeck: content negotiation should be part of the solution. there is no need for a rich new syntax. any existing syntax should be supportable. RDFa, HTML, JSON... ←

16:43:10 <ShaneM> ivan: why doesnt cross domain security apply to JSON files?

Unknown Ivan_Herman: why doesnt cross domain security apply to JSON files? ←

16:44:13 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: In the same way that you can get an image from any location into a page, you can refer to a script via an src attribute on another site.  The code might not run, so you use something called JSONp.  You return a function call, and the parameters are the data you want to get into the host application.

Unknown markbirbeck: In the same way that you can get an image from any location into a page, you can refer to a script via an src attribute on another site. The code might not run, so you use something called JSONp. You return a function call, and the parameters are the data you want to get into the host application. ←

16:45:07 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: would need a convention for emitting the right format (e.g. function call with parameters)

Unknown markbirbeck: would need a convention for emitting the right format (e.g. function call with parameters) ←

16:46:23 <ShaneM> manu: concern about requiring a JSON parser then to handle vocabs.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: concern about requiring a JSON parser then to handle vocabs. ←

16:46:25 <markbirbeck> document.meta.addMappings( { "foaf" : "http://..." } );

Unknown markbirbeck: document.meta.addMappings( { "foaf" : "http://..." } ); ←

16:47:50 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: the base format doesn't preclude parsing by non-JS environments.  just need to strip off the beginning bit and parse through the name value pairs

Unknown markbirbeck: the base format doesn't preclude parsing by non-JS environments. just need to strip off the beginning bit and parse through the name value pairs ←

16:47:57 <ivan> q+

Unknown Ivan_Herman: q+ ←

16:48:18 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: this doesn't impact authors.  It effects vocabulary creators and parsers.

Unknown markbirbeck: this doesn't impact authors. It effects vocabulary creators and parsers. ←

16:48:51 <manu> ack ivan

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ivan ←

16:49:14 <manu> q+

Unknown Manu_Sporny: q+ ←

16:49:48 <ShaneM> ivan: no problem if what we say is that at a given URI we have a JSON file.  There is support for JSON in other languages like Python already.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: no problem if what we say is that at a given URI we have a JSON file. There is support for JSON in other languages like Python already. ←

16:50:41 <ShaneM> ivan: not as excited about content negotiation. Seems like this is an extra complication that we don't want to force our vocabulary authors to have to deal with.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: not as excited about content negotiation. Seems like this is an extra complication that we don't want to force our vocabulary authors to have to deal with. ←

16:51:49 <ShaneM> manu: concern about how the information would get included in the document.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: concern about how the information would get included in the document. ←

16:52:00 <manu> <script src="http://example.org/myvocab.js" />

Unknown Manu_Sporny: <script src="http://example.org/myvocab.js" /> ←

16:52:26 <markbirbeck> @vocab="http://example.org/myvocab"

Unknown markbirbeck: @vocab="http://example.org/myvocab" ←

16:54:45 <manu> var theVocab="HTMLDOCUMENT";

Unknown Manu_Sporny: var theVocab="HTMLDOCUMENT"; ←

16:55:14 <manu> var theVocab="HTML+RDFa DOCUMENT";

Unknown Manu_Sporny: var theVocab="HTML+RDFa DOCUMENT"; ←

16:55:37 <ShaneM> document.meta.parseRdfa("HTML+RDFa Document")

document.meta.parseRdfa("HTML+RDFa Document") ←

16:57:38 <markbirbeck> http://example.org/myvocab.js?callback=document.meta.addMappings

Unknown markbirbeck: http://example.org/myvocab.js?callback=document.meta.addMappings ←

16:59:07 <ShaneM> ivan: so a python system would use the basic URI - a JS implementaiton would append the callback CGI parameter

Unknown Ivan_Herman: so a python system would use the basic URI - a JS implementation would append the callback CGI parameter ←

16:59:15 <ShaneM> s/implementaiton/implementation/

17:00:31 <ShaneM> could we require the servers to serve up other formats?

Unknown Manu_Sporny: could we require the servers to serve up other formats? ←

17:00:50 <ShaneM> s/could/manu: could/

17:01:50 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: Jeni is working on standardizing the format of data that is being returned from servers (RDF <-> JSON) etc.

Unknown markbirbeck: Jeni is working on standardizing the format of data that is being returned from servers (RDF <-> JSON) etc. ←

17:02:43 <ShaneM> markbirbeck: it would be nice if this effort and the linked data effort on mappings converge.

Unknown markbirbeck: it would be nice if this effort and the linked data effort on mappings converge. ←

17:03:14 <markbirbeck> http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/

Unknown markbirbeck: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/ ←

17:03:26 <ShaneM> manu: let's shift some of this discussion to the mailing list and get input from others

Unknown Manu_Sporny: let's shift some of this discussion to the mailing list and get input from others ←

17:03:57 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes

Unknown Ivan_Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes ←

17:03:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html ivan

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html ivan ←

17:03:58 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

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17:04:01 <Zakim> -Steven

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17:04:18 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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17:04:29 <Zakim> -Ivan

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17:04:44 <manu> ShaneM: Here's are all the magic commands you'll ever need to know about scribing - http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide

Unknown ShaneM: Here's are all the magic commands you'll ever need to know about scribing - http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm?content-type=text/html#Quick_Start_Guide [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ] ←

17:04:53 <Zakim> -manu

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17:04:54 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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17:04:56 <Zakim> Attendees were manu, Ivan, ShaneM, Steven, markbirbeck

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17:05:18 <manu> Present+ Steven_Pemberton, Mark_Birbeck

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17:05:35 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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17:05:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html manu

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17:21:15 <manu> zakim, bye

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17:21:17 <manu> rrsagent, bye

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-actions.rdf :

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] --done [1]

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-03-32

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [2]

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-07

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action04] [3]

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-24

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [4]

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-36

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]on07! [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [5]

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-04-44

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17:21:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. [6]

ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them. [6] ←

17:21:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-irc#T16-29-00

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