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14:57:10 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-irc
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14:57:19 <Ralph> zakim, this will be rdfa
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, this will be rdfa ←
14:57:19 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes ←
14:57:25 <Ralph> Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML Task Force
14:58:05 <Ralph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Oct/0008.html
14:58:38 <Ralph> Regrets: Michael, Shane
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14:58:48 <Ralph> rrsagent, please make record public
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, please make record public ←
14:59:41 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0018.html previous 2008-09-04
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0018.html previous 2008-09-04 ←
14:59:52 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/04-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-04
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/04-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-04 ←
15:00:20 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-11
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-11 ←
15:00:44 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-18
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-09-18 ←
15:00:56 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started ←
15:01:06 <Zakim> +Jeremy
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy ←
15:02:24 <Zakim> +Ralph
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ralph ←
15:03:00 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
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15:03:53 <benadida> zakim, who is on the call?
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Unknown benadida: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:03:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jeremy, Ralph, Ben_Adida
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Jeremy, Ralph, Ben_Adida ←
15:06:04 <markbirbeck> previous call is overrunning. will be a couple of minutes
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Unknown markbirbeck: previous call is overrunning. will be a couple of minutes ←
15:08:08 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0041 "xmlse:foo slightly substantive comment on CURIEs (both in stand alone document, and in RDFa PR)" [Jeremy 2008-09-12]
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0041 "xmlse:foo slightly substantive comment on CURIEs (both in stand alone document, and in RDFa PR)" [Jeremy 2008-09-12] ←
15:09:32 <Ralph> Chair: Ben
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created using i/Scribe: Ralph/Topic: Action Review
15:09:35 <Ralph> Scribe: Ralph
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(Scribe set to Unknown Ralph)
15:11:55 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to close loop with Danny. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to close loop with Danny. [recorded in ACTION-19]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-19] ←
15:11:57 <benadida> --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0122.html
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Unknown benadida: --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0122.html ←
15:12:15 <Ralph> Ben: wrote to Danny, don't have a response
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Unknown Ben: wrote to Danny, don't have a response ←
15:12:41 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ben to determine how to highlight RDFa at TPAC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
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[DONE] ACTION: Ben to determine how to highlight RDFa at TPAC [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17] ←
15:12:58 <Ralph> Ralph: 2 opportunities
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Unknown Ralph: 2 opportunities ←
15:13:37 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/TPDay-Agenda.html TP Agenda
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-> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/TPDay-Agenda.html TP Agenda ←
15:13:59 <Ralph> ... 2 lightning talk session
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... 2 lightning talk session ←
15:14:13 <Ralph> ... also a "Semantic Web Demo" session
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... also a "Semantic Web Demo" session ←
15:14:26 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, code? ←
15:14:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck ←
15:14:56 <Zakim> +markbirbeck
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15:16:09 <Ralph> Jeremy, Mark: we'll be at TP
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Jeremy, Mark: we'll be at TP ←
15:16:54 <Ralph> Ben: showing the Drupal work, or SearchMonkey, or Ubiquity w/RDFa would be good
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Unknown Ben: showing the Drupal work, or SearchMonkey, or Ubiquity w/RDFa would be good ←
15:17:00 <Ralph> ... we have more showy stuff than last year
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... we have more showy stuff than last year ←
15:17:17 <Ralph> Ralph: let Ivan know if you have a brief demo you could offer
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Unknown Ralph: let Ivan know if you have a brief demo you could offer ←
15:19:17 <Ralph> Jeremy: I might offer a demo
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Unknown Jeremy: I might offer a demo ←
15:23:04 <Ralph> s/[CONTINUES/[DONE
15:23:22 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Ben to log Danny's issue to tracker. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
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[DONE] ACTION: Ben to log Danny's issue to tracker. [recorded in ACTION-18]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-18] ←
15:23:35 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/128 issue 128
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-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/128 ISSUE-128; PR Comment: Default Graph ←
15:23:50 <Ralph> s/ 128/ 128; PR Comment: Default Graph
15:23:58 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
15:25:02 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-13]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-13] ←
15:25:25 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Ben to figure out *how* to do the namespace-doc GRDDL thing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
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[DONE] ACTION: Ben to figure out *how* to do the namespace-doc GRDDL thing [recorded in ACTION-18]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-18] ←
15:25:35 <Ralph> Ben: Ralph went ahead and did it
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Unknown Ben: Ralph went ahead and did it ←
15:26:14 <Ralph> [DROPPED] ACTION: Jeremy review and consider expanding the description of TopBraid in the RDFa wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
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[DROPPED] ACTION: Jeremy review and consider expanding the description of TopBraid in the RDFa wiki [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] ←
15:26:30 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] ←
15:28:35 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←
15:28:47 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Manu to upload test harness source code to W3C CVS. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
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[DONE] ACTION: Manu to upload test harness source code to W3C CVS. [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07] ←
15:28:52 <Ralph> -> @@ Manu's mail
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-> @@ Manu's mail ←
15:29:02 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] ←
15:29:13 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←
15:29:28 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←
15:29:44 <Ralph> [CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
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[CONTINUES] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in ACTION-15]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-15] ←
15:30:00 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Ralph to make http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
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[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to make http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen [recorded in ACTION-16]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-16] ←
15:30:08 <Ralph> [DONE] ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
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[DONE] ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17] ←
15:30:29 <Ralph> i/Scribe: Ralph/Topic: Action Review
15:31:51 <Ralph> Topic: Publishing Moratorium
15:32:01 <Ralph> Ralph: last day to request publication is 13 October
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Unknown Ralph: last day to request publication is 13 October ←
15:32:10 <Ralph> ... last pubs will be 16 Oct
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... last pubs will be 16 Oct ←
15:32:13 <Ralph> ... before TPAC
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... before TPAC ←
15:33:12 <Ralph> s/Publishing Moratorium/Primer
15:33:26 <Ralph> Ben: we've had a couple of negative comments about the Primer
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Unknown Ben: we've had a couple of negative comments about the Primer ←
15:33:34 <Ralph> ... I wish folk would send us pointers to their blogs
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... I wish folk would send us pointers to their blogs ←
15:33:50 <Ralph> ... do we _need_ to beef it up?
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... do we _need_ to beef it up? ←
15:34:03 <Ralph> Mark: I haven't looked at it in a while but I do remember having some thoughts
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Unknown Mark: I haven't looked at it in a while but I do remember having some thoughts ←
15:34:29 <benadida> --> http://playtheweb.org/2008/09/24/rdfa-trials-and-travails/
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Unknown benadida: --> http://playtheweb.org/2008/09/24/rdfa-trials-and-travails/ ←
15:35:18 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0129.html "RDFa Trials and Travails ..." [Michael 2008-09-25]
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0129.html "RDFa Trials and Travails ..." [Michael 2008-09-25] ←
15:35:33 <Ralph> Ben: do we _want_ to be telling people how to define vocabularies in this document?
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Unknown Ben: do we _want_ to be telling people how to define vocabularies in this document? ←
15:35:50 <Ralph> Mark: we'd talked before about the purpose of the Primer
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Unknown Mark: we'd talked before about the purpose of the Primer ←
15:36:15 <Ralph> ... probably don't want to get into explaining custom vocabularies
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... probably don't want to get into explaining custom vocabularies ←
15:36:26 <Ralph> ... but if we don't then perhaps we shouldn't mention them at all
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... but if we don't then perhaps we shouldn't mention them at all ←
15:36:52 <Ralph> ... we have a powerful system in RDFa but what really makes it useful to Joe Public is when we drop namespace prefixes and make it look more like microformats
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... we have a powerful system in RDFa but what really makes it useful to Joe Public is when we drop namespace prefixes and make it look more like microformats ←
15:37:18 <Ralph> [I disagree on Mark's last point but won't go into it in this telecon]
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[I disagree on Mark's last point but won't go into it in this telecon] ←
15:37:43 <Ralph> Mark: maybe we just accept that our audience is folk who are somewhat familiar with Semantic Web concepts
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Unknown Mark: maybe we just accept that our audience is folk who are somewhat familiar with Semantic Web concepts ←
15:38:42 <Ralph> Ben: I propose that to submit editorial changes only to the Working Group next week and publish just small changes on 13 October
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Unknown Ben: I propose to submit editorial changes only to the Working Group next week and publish just small changes on 13 October ←
15:38:50 <Ralph> s/that to/to
15:39:08 <Ralph> ... just enough modification to the Primer to address the comments a little bit
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... just enough modification to the Primer to address the comments a little bit ←
15:41:29 <Ralph> Ralph: are there enough updates to be worth pushing for 13 Oct or should the Primer just wait a bit longer?
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Unknown Ralph: are there enough updates to be worth pushing for 13 Oct or should the Primer just wait a bit longer? ←
15:41:34 <Ralph> Jeremy: delay REC?
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Unknown Jeremy: delay REC? ←
15:41:40 <Ralph> Ralph: no, let's not delay REC
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Unknown Ralph: no, let's not delay REC ←
15:42:04 <Ralph> Ben: there's other introductory material as well, e.g. in the Wiki
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Unknown Ben: there's other introductory material as well, e.g. in the Wiki ←
15:43:20 <Ralph> Mark: but I do see the argument in favor of removing the section on custom vocabularies
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Unknown Mark: but I do see the argument in favor of removing the section on custom vocabularies ←
15:44:35 <Ralph> Ralph: there _are_ related documents out there; e.g. the Best Practice Recipes
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Unknown Ralph: there _are_ related documents out there; e.g. the Best Practice Recipes ←
15:45:30 <Ralph> Mark: but where are the limits on what we do?
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Unknown Mark: but where are the limits on what we do? ←
15:47:34 <Ralph> Ralph: one of the things that distinguishes RDFa from microformats is that you _can_ define your own vocabulary when you decide that there's nothing existing that meets your needs
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Unknown Ralph: one of the things that distinguishes RDFa from microformats is that you _can_ define your own vocabulary when you decide that there's nothing existing that meets your needs ←
15:47:49 <Ralph> ... so I wouldn't want to drop this entirely from the Primer
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... so I wouldn't want to drop this entirely from the Primer ←
15:48:10 <Ralph> ... it's not clear whether that commentor tried to follow the URIs
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... it's not clear whether that commentor tried to follow the URIs ←
15:48:35 <Ralph> ... the early Web was built on cloning pages; the same works for these examples
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... the early Web was built on cloning pages; the same works for these examples ←
15:50:44 <Ralph> ACTION: Ben ask Shane to produce an updated Syntax with editorial changes for the WG to review next week
ACTION: Ben ask Shane to produce an updated Syntax with editorial changes for the WG to review next week ←
15:51:08 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0041.html Jeremy's editorial suggestion
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Sep/0041.html Jeremy's editorial suggestion ←
15:52:27 <benadida> Note: A CURIE prefix value may case-insensitively begin in the string "xml", but then it is not permitted to be used as a prefix in an xmlns declaration in an XML document.
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Unknown Note: A CURIE prefix value may case-insensitively begin in the string "xml", but then it is not permitted to be used as a prefix in an xmlns declaration in an XML document. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ] ←
15:52:37 <Ralph> Jeremy: we should align the RDFa Syntax document and the CURIE spec as to whether a prefix can start with 'xml'
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Unknown Jeremy: we should align the RDFa Syntax document and the CURIE spec as to whether a prefix can start with 'xml' ←
15:53:57 <JeremyCarroll> See the text:
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Unknown JeremyCarroll: See the text: ←
15:53:57 <JeremyCarroll> [[
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Unknown JeremyCarroll: [[ ←
15:53:57 <JeremyCarroll> prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES].
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Unknown JeremyCarroll: prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES]. ←
15:53:57 <JeremyCarroll> ]]
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Unknown JeremyCarroll: ]] ←
15:55:13 <markbirbeck> "When CURIES are used in an XML-based host language, prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES]. Such host languages MAY also provide additional prefix mapping definition mechanisms.
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Unknown markbirbeck: "When CURIES are used in an XML-based host language, prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES]. Such host languages MAY also provide additional prefix mapping definition mechanisms. ←
15:55:14 <markbirbeck> When CURIES are used in a non-XML host language, the host language MUST provide a mechanism for defining the mapping from the prefix to an IRI."
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Unknown markbirbeck: When CURIES are used in a non-XML host language, the host language MUST provide a mechanism for defining the mapping from the prefix to an IRI." ←
15:55:32 <Ralph> Ralph: perhaps the 'xml' restriction is a Host Language restriction and not an RDFa or CURIE restriction
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Unknown Ralph: perhaps the 'xml' restriction is a Host Language restriction and not an RDFa or CURIE restriction ←
15:56:47 <Ralph> ... so RDFa and CURIE should remain silent on this point and leave it to the Host Language specs to declare any further restrictions
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... so RDFa and CURIE should remain silent on this point and leave it to the Host Language specs to declare any further restrictions ←
15:57:33 <Ralph> Mark: when I added that sentence I was thinking of prefixes such as '123abc'
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Unknown Mark: when I added that sentence I was thinking of prefixes such as '123abc' ←
15:57:47 <Ralph> ... it wouldn't hurt to add to CURIE the 'xml*' restriction
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... it wouldn't hurt to add to CURIE the 'xml*' restriction ←
15:58:06 <Ralph> ... I think this would be a useful addition
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... I think this would be a useful addition ←
15:58:54 <Ralph> Ralph: I'd make it an editorial Note: comment rather than make it appearing to be normative about CURIEs
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Unknown Ralph: I'd make it an editorial Note: comment rather than make it appearing to be normative about CURIEs ←
16:00:32 <Ralph> Mark: I agree that the normative constraint is already covered by the "prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES]" language
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Unknown Mark: I agree that the normative constraint is already covered by the "prefix values MUST be able to be defined using the 'xmlns:' syntax specified in [XMLNAMES]" language ←
16:00:44 <Ralph> ... I'm suggesting adding the comment as assistance to readers
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... I'm suggesting adding the comment as assistance to readers ←
16:00:52 <Ralph> Jeremy: an example would be informative
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Unknown Jeremy: an example would be informative ←
16:01:17 <Ralph> ... I'm happy with no change to RDFa Syntax
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... I'm happy with no change to RDFa Syntax ←
16:02:04 <benadida> PROPOSE no modification to the RDFa Syntax document based on Jeremy's xmlse:foo comment
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Unknown benadida: PROPOSE no modification to the RDFa Syntax document based on Jeremy's xmlse:foo comment ←
16:02:14 <Ralph> RESOLVED: no modification to the RDFa Syntax document based on Jeremy's xmlse:foo comment
RESOLVED: no modification to the RDFa Syntax document based on Jeremy's xmlse:foo comment ←
16:02:40 <JeremyCarroll> accepted as commentator
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Unknown JeremyCarroll: accepted as commentator ←
16:02:43 <Ralph> [adjourned]
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[adjourned] ←
16:02:43 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
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Zakim IRC Bot: -markbirbeck ←
16:02:44 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
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16:02:49 <Zakim> -Ralph
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ralph ←
16:02:49 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended ←
16:02:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeremy, Ralph, Ben_Adida, markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Jeremy, Ralph, Ben_Adida, markbirbeck ←
16:02:56 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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rrsagent, please draft minutes ←
16:02:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph ←
16:03:38 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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zakim, bye ←
16:03:39 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
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rrsagent, bye ←
16:03:39 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-actions.rdf : ←
16:03:39 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben ask Shane to produce an updated Syntax with editorial changes for the WG to review next week [1]
ACTION: Ben ask Shane to produce an updated Syntax with editorial changes for the WG to review next week [1] ←
16:03:39 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-irc#T15-50-44
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-rdfa-irc#T15-50-44 ←
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