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14:58:02 <Ralph> zakim, this will be rdfa
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, this will be rdfa ←
14:58:02 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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14:58:11 <Ralph> Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML Task Force
14:58:12 <mhausenblas> ah, good ;)
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Unknown mhausenblas: ah, good ;) ←
14:58:21 <Ralph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0011.html
14:58:33 <Ralph> Regrets: Manu, Ben, Jeremy
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14:59:07 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
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14:59:16 <Zakim> +Michael_Hausenblas
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14:59:37 <Ralph> regrets+ Mark
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Unknown Ralph: regrets+ Mark ←
15:00:05 <Zakim> +Ralph
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15:00:16 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-07-31
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-07-31 ←
15:00:37 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
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Unknown Steven: zakim, who is here? ←
15:00:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph
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15:00:52 <Ralph> rrsagent, please make record public
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, please make record public ←
15:00:59 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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15:01:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, markbirbeck, Ralph
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15:01:15 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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15:01:17 <Zakim> +Steven
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15:01:21 <Ralph> agenda: Implementation Report
15:01:25 <Ralph> agenda+ Implementation Report
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Unknown Ralph: agenda+ Implementation Report ←
15:02:29 <Ralph> Topic: Action Review
15:02:37 <Ralph> all open actions still pending
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Unknown Ralph: all open actions still pending ←
15:02:57 <Ralph> next agendum
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Unknown Ralph: next agendum ←
15:03:03 <Ralph> zakim, next agendum
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, next agendum ←
15:03:03 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Ralph
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15:03:10 <Ralph> zakim, take up agendum 1
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, take up agendum 1 ←
15:03:10 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Implementation Report" taken up [from Ralph]
15:03:27 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ Implementation Report
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ Implementation Report ←
15:03:41 <Ralph> Michael: we have one more implementation than we need to meet our CR exit criteria
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Unknown Michael: we have one more implementation than we need to meet our CR exit criteria [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:04:14 <Ralph> ... Fabien reported the results of his XSLT implementation so I'll include his results
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Unknown Ralph: ... Fabien reported the results of his XSLT implementation so I'll include his results ←
15:04:46 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0016.html Fabiens proposal
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0016.html Fabiens proposal ←
15:04:49 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0016.html Fabien's report
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0016.html Fabien's report ←
15:05:33 <Ralph> Ralph: what about Fabien's note of a bug in the manifest for 52 & 53?
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Unknown Ralph: what about Fabien's note of a bug in the manifest for 52 & 53? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:06:41 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases-20080731/ Freezed RDFa TC for IR
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases-20080731/ Freezed RDFa TC for IR ←
15:06:49 <Ralph> Michael: I wonder if Fabien has an old version of the manifest, as the other implementations pass
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Unknown Michael: I wonder if Fabien has an old version of the manifest, as the other implementations pass [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:07:58 <Ralph> ... nope, seems to be the same in the manifest
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Unknown Ralph: ... nope, seems to be the same in the manifest ←
15:08:05 <Ralph> ... I'll have to check this with Manu
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Unknown Ralph: ... I'll have to check this with Manu ←
15:09:58 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases-20080731/Test0086 reference negative TC
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases-20080731/Test0086 reference negative TC ←
15:09:58 <Ralph> Michael: compare with test 86
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Unknown Michael: compare with test 86 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:12:28 <Ralph> Ralph: looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_6.1.1.
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Unknown Ralph: looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_6.1.1. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:15:49 <Ralph> ... 6.1.1.5.
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Unknown Ralph: ... 6.1.1.5. ←
15:16:02 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html#item02 approval of TC 52 and 53
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html#item02 approval of TC 52 and 53 ←
15:20:24 <Ralph> Ralph: consider rule 4 in http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_5.5.
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Unknown Ralph: consider rule 4 in http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_5.5. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:23:00 <Ralph> Michael: as we have no @about, the subject becomes the value of @resource
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Unknown Michael: as we have no @about, the subject becomes the value of @resource [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:23:54 <Ralph> Ralph: so the comment in the Purpose column of Section 3 of the implementation report is wrong for tests 52 and 53
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Unknown Ralph: so the comment in the Purpose column of Section 3 of the implementation report is wrong for tests 52 and 53 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:25:42 <Ralph> ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu
ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu ←
15:29:31 <Ralph> Ralph: the worrisome thing is that Fabien believes the test should be a negative test, in contradiction to the other 5 reported implementations. Perhaps he is believing the incorrect text in the Purpose column, but if he thinks there are words in the spec that say the opposite we should track this down
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Unknown Ralph: the worrisome thing is that Fabien believes the test should be a negative test, in contradiction to the other 5 reported implementations. Perhaps he is believing the incorrect text in the Purpose column, but if he thinks there are words in the spec that say the opposite we should track this down [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:06 <Ralph> Michael: is section 4 sufficient, or does it need to be longer?
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Unknown Michael: is section 4 sufficient, or does it need to be longer? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:42 <Ralph> Ralph: the implementation report is only to show that we have completed our CR requirements
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Unknown Ralph: the implementation report is only to show that we have completed our CR requirements [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:53 <Ralph> ... so fine to add more if we know but OK to point to the Wiki
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Unknown Ralph: ... so fine to add more if we know but OK to point to the Wiki ←
15:32:22 <Ralph> Michael: what else do we need for WG review?
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Unknown Michael: what else do we need for WG review? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:33:09 <Ralph> Ralph: we need a final editor's draft and to include the XSLT implementation in the report
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Unknown Ralph: we need a final editor's draft and to include the XSLT implementation in the report [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:33:27 <Ralph> ... since there has been so much discussion of using GRDDL for RDFa, to omit the XSLT implementation would raise many questions
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Unknown Ralph: ... since there has been so much discussion of using GRDDL for RDFa, to omit the XSLT implementation would raise many questions ←
15:34:34 <Ralph> Michael: do the WGs need to review the implementation report?
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Unknown Michael: do the WGs need to review the implementation report? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:34:42 <Ralph> Ralph: were we committed to publishing it as a Group Note?
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Unknown Ralph: were we committed to publishing it as a Group Note? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:34:57 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#RDFa RDFa Deliverables
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#RDFa RDFa Deliverables ←
15:34:58 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-minutes.html#item02 SWD m inutes
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/08/05-swd-minutes.html#item02 SWD m inutes ←
15:37:26 <Ralph> Ralph: I don't believe that the WGs intend to publish the Implementation Report as a TR
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Unknown Ralph: I don't believe that the WGs intend to publish the Implementation Report as a TR [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:37:42 <Ralph> ... so it just stays in its current form and you can continually improve it as comments arrive
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Unknown Ralph: ... so it just stays in its current form and you can continually improve it as comments arrive ←
15:38:29 <Ralph> Steven: alternating between the Implementation Report and the Implementation Wiki, it's hard to find the similarities
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Unknown Steven: alternating between the Implementation Report and the Implementation Wiki, it's hard to find the similarities [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:38:35 <Ralph> ... perhaps I'll try to update the Wiki
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Unknown Ralph: ... perhaps I'll try to update the Wiki ←
15:38:49 <Ralph> ... Micah Dubinko reported a new implementation this week
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Unknown Ralph: ... Micah Dubinko reported a new implementation this week ←
15:39:05 <Ralph> Michael: once Manu updates the test harness to point to a new implementation I just need to regenerate the EARL
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Unknown Michael: once Manu updates the test harness to point to a new implementation I just need to regenerate the EARL [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:39:27 <Ralph> Steven: the terminology in the Wiki is different from the terminology in the Implementation Report
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Unknown Steven: the terminology in the Wiki is different from the terminology in the Implementation Report [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:39:41 <Ralph> ... one talks about 'client side' and the other talks about 'plug-ins'
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Unknown Ralph: ... one talks about 'client side' and the other talks about 'plug-ins' ←
15:39:48 <Ralph> Michael: the audiences are different
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Unknown Michael: the audiences are different [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:40:03 <Ralph> Steven: how shall we report editorial errors in the IR?
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Unknown Steven: how shall we report editorial errors in the IR? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:40:36 <Ralph> Michael: wait 1 or 2 days while I work in Ben's client-side wording and tests 52 and 53 then I'll send a call for comments
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Unknown Michael: wait 1 or 2 days while I work in Ben's client-side wording and tests 52 and 53 then I'll send a call for comments [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
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15:40:57 <Zakim> -Ralph
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15:40:59 <Zakim> -Michael_Hausenblas
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15:41:00 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
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15:41:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Steven
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15:41:11 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, please draft minutes ←
15:41:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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16:09:04 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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16:09:06 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, bye ←
16:09:06 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-actions.rdf :
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16:09:06 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [1]
ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [1] ←
16:09:06 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-irc#T15-25-42
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