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RDFa Task Force

Minutes of 14 September 2007

Agenda

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0141.html

Seen

Unknown Manu, Unknown Ralph, Unknown RalphS, Unknown ShaneM, Unknown benadida, Unknown markbirbeck

Chair

Unknown Ben

Scribe

Unknown Ralph

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

move xml:base discussion to an appendix link
RDFa does not restrict datatypes link
for processing purposes of XML Literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2] link
for processing purposes of literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2] link
RDFa in XHTML1.1 uses @xml:lang and does not use @lang link

Topics

Doc status check
Doc status
Schedule

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14:51:17 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-irc

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14:51:21 <RalphS> Meeting: RDFa Task Force

14:51:27 <RalphS> zakim, this will be rdfa

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Unknown RalphS: zakim, this will be rdfa ←

14:51:27 <Zakim> ok, RalphS; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes

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14:52:02 <RalphS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0141.html

14:52:26 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-09-06

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14:52:33 <RalphS> rrsagent, please make record public

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15:01:06 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

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15:01:13 <Zakim> +??P11

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15:02:57 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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15:02:57 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

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15:03:19 <Zakim> +markbirbeck

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15:03:22 <Zakim> +Ralph

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15:03:50 <RalphS> zakim, ??p11 is Manu

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15:03:50 <Zakim> +Manu; got it

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15:05:25 <Zakim> +??P0

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15:05:34 <ShaneM>  zakim, P0 is ShaneM

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15:05:34 <Zakim> sorry, ShaneM, I do not recognize a party named 'P0'

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15:05:41 <ShaneM>  zakim, ??P0 is ShaneM

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15:05:41 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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15:06:42 <Zakim> +benadida

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15:08:36 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim

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15:08:36 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ralph

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15:09:01 <RalphS> Chair: Ben

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15:09:04 <RalphS> Scribe: Ralph

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15:10:41 <RalphS> Ben: next TF telecon is 20 Sep

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Unknown Ben: next TF telecon is 20 Sep [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:11:25 <RalphS> ... the SWD WG telecon on Tuesday 25 Sep is critical to getting review before the SWD f2f

Unknown RalphS: ... the SWD WG telecon on Tuesday 25 Sep is critical to getting review before the SWD f2f ←

15:11:49 <RalphS> ... so all our issues should [result in] minor changes to the document right now

Unknown RalphS: ... so all our issues should [result in] minor changes to the document right now ←

15:12:52 <RalphS> Mark: how frozen is the f2f agenda?

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Unknown Mark: how frozen is the f2f agenda? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:12:59 <RalphS> Ralph: I don't think it's frozen yet

Unknown Ralph: I don't think it's frozen yet [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:13:51 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda SWD WG Amsterdam Agenda

Unknown RalphS: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda SWD WG Amsterdam Agenda ←

15:14:30 <RalphS> Topic: Doc status check

1. Doc status check

15:14:48 <RalphS> Ben: we've made some non-binding resolutions that we're now depending on

Unknown Ben: we've made some non-binding resolutions that we're now depending on [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:14:57 <RalphS> ... @instanceof, handling of @src, ...

Unknown RalphS: ... @instanceof, handling of @src, ... ←

15:15:19 <RalphS> ... I think we should proceed with the non-binding resolutions as long as we can

Unknown RalphS: ... I think we should proceed with the non-binding resolutions as long as we can ←

15:15:27 <RalphS> Manu: main issue is the spelling of @instanceof

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Unknown Manu: main issue is the spelling of @instanceof [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:15:41 <RalphS> ... haven't seen many alternatives being discussed recently in mail

Unknown RalphS: ... haven't seen many alternatives being discussed recently in mail ←

15:15:53 <RalphS> Ben: yes, I just want to be clear on what we've finally resolved

Unknown Ben: yes, I just want to be clear on what we've finally resolved [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:16:12 <RalphS> Mark: should we refer to these non-binding resolutions in the document?

Unknown Mark: should we refer to these non-binding resolutions in the document? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:16:27 <RalphS> Shane: we said 6 weeks ago these were non-binding

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Unknown Shane: we said 6 weeks ago these were non-binding [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:16:31 <RalphS> ... that was 6 weeks ago

Unknown RalphS: ... that was 6 weeks ago ←

15:16:37 <RalphS> ... let's move on at this point

Unknown RalphS: ... let's move on at this point ←

15:17:00 <RalphS> Ben: I definitely want to move forward but I've made procedural mistakes in the past that people have called to attention

Unknown Ben: I definitely want to move forward but I've made procedural mistakes in the past that people have called to attention [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:17:55 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben collect all the non-binding resolutions into a mail message and call for a vote

ACTION: Ben collect all the non-binding resolutions into a mail message and call for a vote ←

15:19:26 <RalphS> Ralph: so our objective is to turn all non-binding resolutions into either closed issues or open issues and document the open issues in the published WD?

Unknown Ralph: so our objective is to turn all non-binding resolutions into either closed issues or open issues and document the open issues in the published WD? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:19:30 <RalphS> Ben: yes

Unknown Ben: yes [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:19:46 <RalphS> Ralph: ... by next telecon

Unknown Ralph: ... by next telecon [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:19:57 <RalphS> Ben: we should have a new editor's draft by next Tuesday evening

Unknown Ben: we should have a new editor's draft by next Tuesday evening [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:20:25 <RalphS> ... act as if the resolutions were resolved, revisit Thursday if not resolved

Unknown RalphS: ... act as if the resolutions were resolved, revisit Thursday if not resolved ←

15:20:56 <RalphS> Mark: will the Tuesday draft be the one we send to the WG?

Unknown Mark: will the Tuesday draft be the one we send to the WG? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:21:16 <RalphS> Ben: by Tuesday night we should have a draft that is ready to go to the WG except for the non-binding resolutions

Unknown Ben: by Tuesday night we should have a draft that is ready to go to the WG except for the non-binding resolutions [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:21:27 <RalphS> ... we can do limited edits on Friday

Unknown RalphS: ... we can do limited edits on Friday ←

15:21:48 <RalphS> Ben: we really want to send a document to the WG by Friday 21 Sep

Unknown Ben: we really want to send a document to the WG by Friday 21 Sep [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:23:29 <RalphS> Shane: the document we give to the WG on 21 Sep does not have to pass W3C pubrules, right?

Unknown Shane: the document we give to the WG on 21 Sep does not have to pass W3C pubrules, right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:23:41 <RalphS> Ralph: right, it's a draft for the WG to review to decide to request W3C publication

Unknown Ralph: right, it's a draft for the WG to review to decide to request W3C publication [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:24:41 <RalphS> Ben: we also need the XHTML2 Working Group to formally decide to publish the document

Unknown Ben: we also need the XHTML2 Working Group to formally decide to publish the document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:24:49 <RalphS> ... since it's joint work of the two WGs

Unknown RalphS: ... since it's joint work of the two WGs ←

15:26:01 <RalphS> Shane: we're not going to have a shortname and issue the W3C request for publication on 21 Sep, right?

Unknown Shane: we're not going to have a shortname and issue the W3C request for publication on 21 Sep, right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:26:03 <RalphS> Ralph: right

Unknown Ralph: right [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:27:53 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to write up @instanceof referring to other subjects [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

ACTION: Ben to write up @instanceof referring to other subjects [recorded in ACTION-15]">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-15] ←

15:27:56 <RalphS> -- done

Unknown RalphS: -- done ←

15:28:06 <RalphS> ACTION: Michael look for a more semantically correct predicate for tests 42-45 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

ACTION: Michael look for a more semantically correct predicate for tests 42-45 [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←

15:28:08 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:28:19 <RalphS> ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]

ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07] ←

15:28:21 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:28:33 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben add an isbn: resource example to the Primer to illustrate @resource overriding @href [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Ben add an isbn: resource example to the Primer to illustrate @resource overriding @href [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08] ←

15:28:35 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:28:49 <RalphS> Ben: I worked on this but had trouble fully integrating, so still in progress

Unknown Ben: I worked on this but had trouble fully integrating, so still in progress [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:29:01 <RalphS> Mark: I did include an isbn: example in the Syntax doc

Unknown Mark: I did include an isbn: example in the Syntax doc [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:29:19 <RalphS> Ben: isbn: was a simple use case for @resource overriding @href

Unknown Ben: isbn: was a simple use case for @resource overriding @href [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:29:35 <RalphS> ... I'm still working on a convincing case for @resource overriding @src

Unknown RalphS: ... I'm still working on a convincing case for @resource overriding @src ←

15:29:44 <RalphS> Mark: FOAF has an "online ID"

Unknown Mark: FOAF has an "online ID" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:29:58 <RalphS> ... something that isn't meant to be a clickable link; just an identifier

Unknown RalphS: ... something that isn't meant to be a clickable link; just an identifier ←

15:30:20 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Ben send mail to the TF list when the Primer editors' draft is ready for the TF to read [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

Unknown RalphS: [DONE] ACTION: Ben send mail to the TF list when the Primer editors' draft is ready for the TF to read [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←

15:30:28 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←

15:30:29 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:30:52 <RalphS> Ben: the Science Commons use case may be becomming less relevant to this TF but let's keep this action open

Unknown Ben: the Science Commons use case may be becomming less relevant to this TF but let's keep this action open [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:31:02 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to recontact implementors Elias, MarkB, triplr [and Fabien] and post their implementations to http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa#Implementations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/02-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: Ben to recontact implementors Elias, MarkB, triplr [and Fabien] and post their implementations to http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa#Implementations [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/02-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] ←

15:31:04 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:31:11 <RalphS> Ben: I want to add those to the implementations page

Unknown Ben: I want to add those to the implementations page [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:31:24 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben to work test cases 31 and 32 into primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

ACTION: Ben to work test cases 31 and 32 into primer [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←

15:31:27 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:31:34 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben, Mark, Elias, and other implementors to add xml:lang support [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Ben, Mark, Elias, and other implementors to add xml:lang support [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←

15:31:36 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:31:49 <RalphS> Mark: I've implemented xml:lang but not wrapping

Unknown Mark: I've implemented xml:lang but not wrapping [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:32:01 <RalphS> ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] ←

15:32:04 <RalphS> -- continues

Unknown RalphS: -- continues ←

15:32:30 <RalphS> Ralph: none appear to be critical path for the editors' drafts

Unknown Ralph: none appear to be critical path for the editors' drafts [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:32:34 <RalphS> Ben: right

Unknown Ben: right [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:32:43 <RalphS> Topic: Doc status

2. Doc status

15:33:08 <RalphS> i|Ben to write up @instanceof|Topic: Action Review|

Unknown RalphS: i|Ben to write up @instanceof|Topic: Action Review| ←

15:33:19 <RalphS> -- Conformance Section

Unknown RalphS: -- Conformance Section ←

15:33:31 <RalphS> Shane: W3C specs are now expected to have a conformance section

Unknown Shane: W3C specs are now expected to have a conformance section [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:33:39 <RalphS> ... defines what it means to be conformant

Unknown RalphS: ... defines what it means to be conformant ←

15:33:53 <RalphS> Ben: Mark and I appear to have a bit of a disagreement on what it means to be conformant

Unknown Ben: Mark and I appear to have a bit of a disagreement on what it means to be conformant [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:34:04 <RalphS> Shane: that's exactly why we write a conformance section

Unknown Shane: that's exactly why we write a conformance section [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:34:11 <RalphS> Mark: I'm trying to achieve a particular set of use cases

Unknown Mark: I'm trying to achieve a particular set of use cases [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:34:26 <RalphS> ... the QA people will ask us how we test conformance, so conformance should be testable

Unknown RalphS: ... the QA people will ask us how we test conformance, so conformance should be testable ←

15:34:45 <RalphS> ... there's a question about whether I'm non-conformant if I generate extra triples

Unknown RalphS: ... there's a question about whether I'm non-conformant if I generate extra triples ←

15:35:35 <RalphS> Ben: the issue is "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?"

Unknown Ben: the issue is "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:37:10 <RalphS> Ralph: I thought we'd resolved that issue

Unknown Ralph: I thought we'd resolved that issue [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:37:46 <RalphS> ACTION: Ben research whether "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?" is an already closed issue

ACTION: Ben research whether "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?" is an already closed issue ←

15:38:20 <RalphS> Mark: we'll need to work out how we define conformance

Unknown Mark: we'll need to work out how we define conformance [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:38:30 <RalphS> Shane: every assertion in the document applies to conformance

Unknown Shane: every assertion in the document applies to conformance [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:38:45 <RalphS> ACTION: Shane create a conformance section

ACTION: Shane create a conformance section ←

15:39:03 <RalphS> Shane: the debate about "what does it mean to conform" is a debate about the entire document

Unknown Shane: the debate about "what does it mean to conform" is a debate about the entire document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:39:36 <RalphS> -- will xml:base work?

Unknown RalphS: -- will xml:base work? ←

15:40:06 <RalphS> Ben: the main idea is that if the host language doesn't support xml:base then it doesn't make sense for RDFa to require it

Unknown Ben: the main idea is that if the host language doesn't support xml:base then it doesn't make sense for RDFa to require it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:40:27 <RalphS> ... and since XHTML1 doesn't support xml:base, we don't depend on it

Unknown RalphS: ... and since XHTML1 doesn't support xml:base, we don't depend on it ←

15:40:59 <RalphS> ... if the host language -- e.g. XHTML2 -- does support xml:base then RDFa will use it

Unknown RalphS: ... if the host language -- e.g. XHTML2 -- does support xml:base then RDFa will use it ←

15:41:16 <RalphS> ... so we resolve URIs the same way as the host language

Unknown RalphS: ... so we resolve URIs the same way as the host language ←

15:41:47 <RalphS> ... and BASE in XHTML1 is called out specifically in the Syntax document

Unknown RalphS: ... and BASE in XHTML1 is called out specifically in the Syntax document ←

15:42:01 <RalphS> ... the issue resolution is meant to leave the door open to XHTML2

Unknown RalphS: ... the issue resolution is meant to leave the door open to XHTML2 ←

15:42:14 <RalphS> Mark: XHTML modularization also leaves open the door to other languages

Unknown Mark: XHTML modularization also leaves open the door to other languages [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:43:03 <RalphS> ... should I remove the language about xml:base that's in the editor's draft now?

Unknown RalphS: ... should I remove the language about xml:base that's in the editor's draft now? ←

15:43:06 <RalphS> Ben: I think so

Unknown Ben: I think so [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:43:14 <RalphS> ... this document is about RDFa in XHTML1

Unknown RalphS: ... this document is about RDFa in XHTML1 ←

15:44:23 <RalphS> Shane: we already have a document about RDFa modularization and could move the xml:base words to there

Unknown Shane: we already have a document about RDFa modularization and could move the xml:base words to there [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:44:27 <RalphS> ... or put it into an appendix

Unknown RalphS: ... or put it into an appendix ←

15:45:04 <RalphS> Manu: reading the xml:base words from a newcomer's perspective, it appeared to be coming from left field; I didn't understand why that language was there in the document

Unknown Manu: reading the xml:base words from a newcomer's perspective, it appeared to be coming from left field; I didn't understand why that language was there in the document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:45:35 <RalphS> Ralph: I move to put it into an appendix

Unknown Ralph: I move to put it into an appendix [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:46:04 <RalphS> Ben: I'm worried about how this document will be accepted by other folks

Unknown Ben: I'm worried about how this document will be accepted by other folks [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:46:39 <RalphS> Mark: I'm talking about consistency and how this module will be used in other languages

Unknown Mark: I'm talking about consistency and how this module will be used in other languages [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:47:31 <RalphS> Ben: this Syntax document is not a module specification

Unknown Ben: this Syntax document is not a module specification [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:47:53 <RalphS> ... for folks working with XHTML1.1 and writing a parser for that, the language about xml:base is not relevant

Unknown RalphS: ... for folks working with XHTML1.1 and writing a parser for that, the language about xml:base is not relevant ←

15:47:57 <ShaneM>  The module is defined in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070811/

Unknown ShaneM: The module is defined in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-rdfa-20070811/ ←

15:48:33 <RalphS> Mark: it _is_ possible for xml:base to appear in an XHTML1.1 document

Unknown Mark: it _is_ possible for xml:base to appear in an XHTML1.1 document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:48:55 <RalphS> Manu: taking it out of the normal flow of the document and putting it into the end is sufficient

Unknown Manu: taking it out of the normal flow of the document and putting it into the end is sufficient [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:49:07 <RalphS> RESOLVED: move xml:base discussion to an appendix

RESOLVED: move xml:base discussion to an appendix ←

15:49:21 <benadida> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0142.html

Unknown benadida: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0142.html ←

15:49:41 <RalphS> -- SAX Processing

Unknown RalphS: -- SAX Processing ←

15:49:53 <RalphS> Mark: good idea to find one, but I don't have one at the moment

Unknown Mark: good idea to find one, but I don't have one at the moment [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:50:07 <RalphS> ... since I say "SAX-like", I'd better find one or clarify

Unknown RalphS: ... since I say "SAX-like", I'd better find one or clarify ←

15:50:23 <RalphS> ACTION: Mark find a reference for SAX or clarify the "SAX-like" language

ACTION: Mark find a reference for SAX or clarify the "SAX-like" language ←

15:50:36 <RalphS> -- datatypes

Unknown RalphS: -- datatypes ←

15:50:54 <RalphS> Shane: the question was "What datatypes are allowed to be specified?"

Unknown Shane: the question was "What datatypes are allowed to be specified?" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:50:58 <RalphS> Mark: there's really no limit

Unknown Mark: there's really no limit [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:51:18 <RalphS> Manu: my understanding was that anything in XSD could be used

Unknown Manu: my understanding was that anything in XSD could be used [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:51:38 <RalphS> Mark: and any other datatype URI

Unknown Mark: and any other datatype URI [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:51:40 <RalphS> Ben: that's also what I understood

Unknown Ben: that's also what I understood [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:52:07 <RalphS> PROPOSED: RDFa does not restrict datatypes

PROPOSED: RDFa does not restrict datatypes ←

15:52:44 <RalphS> Mark: in terms of the abstract syntax, it's any datatype URI

Unknown Mark: in terms of the abstract syntax, it's any datatype URI [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:52:50 <RalphS> RESOLVED: RDFa does not restrict datatypes

RESOLVED: RDFa does not restrict datatypes ←

15:53:05 <RalphS> -- definition of canonicalization

Unknown RalphS: -- definition of canonicalization ←

15:53:20 <RalphS> Ben: this is complicated by the question of whether the DOM is used to resolve whitespace

Unknown Ben: this is complicated by the question of whether the DOM is used to resolve whitespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:53:43 <RalphS> Shane: my gut feeling is that we should not pay any attention to the fact that XHTML sets xml:whitespace to 'preserve'

Unknown Shane: my gut feeling is that we should not pay any attention to the fact that XHTML sets xml:whitespace to 'preserve' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:54:25 <RalphS> ... XHTML says that whitespace is preserved, so after processing all the whitespace is present, which strictly means that the whitespace should be available to the RDFa processor

Unknown RalphS: ... XHTML says that whitespace is preserved, so after processing all the whitespace is present, which strictly means that the whitespace should be available to the RDFa processor ←

15:54:35 <RalphS> ... but in practice all the implementations strip out the whitespace

Unknown RalphS: ... but in practice all the implementations strip out the whitespace ←

15:55:03 <RalphS> Mark: we'd had a long discussion in XHTML2 and I thought we'd already agreed that XHTML1 should not have chosen 'preserve'

Unknown Mark: we'd had a long discussion in XHTML2 and I thought we'd already agreed that XHTML1 should not have chosen 'preserve' [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:55:08 <RalphS> Shane: I don't think that's true

Unknown Shane: I don't think that's true [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:55:21 <RalphS> Mark: still, I don't quite know how we do this

Unknown Mark: still, I don't quite know how we do this [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:55:42 <RalphS> ... unless we create a profile that does not include xml:space=preserve

Unknown RalphS: ... unless we create a profile that does not include xml:space=preserve ←

15:56:03 <RalphS> Shane: do you believe we can access this data from the client side?

Unknown Shane: do you believe we can access this data from the client side? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:56:16 <RalphS> Mark: no, implementation-wise I agree [that whitespace is not preserved]

Unknown Mark: no, implementation-wise I agree [that whitespace is not preserved] [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:56:41 <RalphS> ... but how can we undo what XHTML1 has chosen?  How do we get rid of the whitespace that XHTML1 is requiring us to preserve?

Unknown RalphS: ... but how can we undo what XHTML1 has chosen? How do we get rid of the whitespace that XHTML1 is requiring us to preserve? ←

15:56:50 <RalphS> ... we could require the parser to strip the whitespace

Unknown RalphS: ... we could require the parser to strip the whitespace ←

15:57:08 <RalphS> Shane, Ben: yes, tell the parser to strip it

Unknown RalphS: Shane, Ben: yes, tell the parser to strip it ←

15:57:20 <RalphS> Shane: defer to the CSS definition

Unknown Shane: defer to the CSS definition [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:57:25 <RalphS> ... I will grab the text from there

Unknown RalphS: ... I will grab the text from there ←

15:57:53 <RalphS> PROPOSED: the RDFa parser does canonicalization according to CSS rules

PROPOSED: the RDFa parser does canonicalization according to CSS rules ←

15:58:32 <RalphS> Mark: we don't want to be inconsistent [across implementations] -- that was Fabien's problem

Unknown Mark: we don't want to be inconsistent [across implementations] -- that was Fabien's problem [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:58:45 <RalphS> ... with test case 29

Unknown RalphS: ... with test case 29 ←

15:59:03 <ShaneM>  XHTML M12N says: On rendering, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2].

Unknown ShaneM: XHTML M12N says: On rendering, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2]. ←

15:59:10 <RalphS> Ben: do the CSS rules only concern whitespace or does it cover other canonicalization questions?

Unknown Ben: do the CSS rules only concern whitespace or does it cover other canonicalization questions? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:59:13 <RalphS> Mark: only whitespace

Unknown Mark: only whitespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

15:59:32 <ShaneM>  so we just say "for processing purposes of XML Literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2]"

Unknown ShaneM: so we just say "for processing purposes of XML Literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2]" ←

15:59:43 <RalphS> PROPOSED: the RDFa parser does whitespace canonicalization according to CSS rules

PROPOSED: the RDFa parser does whitespace canonicalization according to CSS rules ←

16:00:17 <RalphS> Manu: the CSS rules are quite heavy.  It's not necessarily clear which ones we're citing

Unknown Manu: the CSS rules are quite heavy. It's not necessarily clear which ones we're citing [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:00:21 <RalphS> Shane: just the whitespace rules

Unknown Shane: just the whitespace rules [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:00:37 <RalphS> Ben: from the implementation point-of-view, all the parser needs to do is access the DOM

Unknown Ben: from the implementation point-of-view, all the parser needs to do is access the DOM [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:01:03 <RalphS> Shane: yes, that's why we want to make this choice for the client.  On the server side you may have to do more work

Unknown Shane: yes, that's why we want to make this choice for the client. On the server side you may have to do more work [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:01:57 <RalphS> RESOLVED: for processing purposes of XML Literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2]

RESOLVED: for processing purposes of XML Literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2] ←

16:02:19 <RalphS> Mark: it's all literals, not just XML Literals

Unknown Mark: it's all literals, not just XML Literals [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:02:27 <RalphS> RESOLVED: for processing purposes of literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2]

RESOLVED: for processing purposes of literals, whitespace is processed according to the rules of [CSS2] ←

16:02:33 <RalphS> Shane, yep; that's what I meant

Unknown Shane: yep; that's what I meant [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:02:41 <RalphS> s/Shane,/Shane:/

16:03:21 <RalphS> Ben: Elias' point was also about stripping elements from markup when @datatype=""

Unknown Ben: Elias' point was also about stripping elements from markup when @datatype="" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:03:33 <RalphS> Mark: that was Fabien's question too

Unknown Mark: that was Fabien's question too [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:03:43 <RalphS> ... we've defined rules for converting child elements

Unknown RalphS: ... we've defined rules for converting child elements ←

16:03:50 <RalphS> ... Fabien asked for clarification of those rules

Unknown RalphS: ... Fabien asked for clarification of those rules ←

16:04:07 <RalphS> Ben: FireFox DOM has a notion of 'text content'; is that a standard method?

Unknown Ben: FireFox DOM has a notion of 'text content'; is that a standard method? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:04:15 <RalphS> Mark: I think it is defined in the XML DOM

Unknown Mark: I think it is defined in the XML DOM [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:04:22 <RalphS> ... I

Unknown RalphS: ... I ←

16:04:31 <RalphS> ... I'll add better language in the next draft

Unknown RalphS: ... I'll add better language in the next draft ←

16:04:50 <RalphS> ACTION: Mark find language for canonicalization of markup in plain literals

ACTION: Mark find language for canonicalization of markup in plain literals ←

16:05:05 <RalphS> -- @lang

Unknown RalphS: -- @lang ←

16:05:15 <RalphS> Shane: we've resolved to use xml:lang, right?

Unknown Shane: we've resolved to use xml:lang, right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:05:35 <RalphS> Ben: XHTML1.1 only uses @xml:lang

Unknown Ben: XHTML1.1 only uses @xml:lang [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:05:57 <RalphS> RESOLVED: RDFa in XHTML1.1 uses @xml:lang and does not use @lang

RESOLVED: RDFa in XHTML1.1 uses @xml:lang and does not use @lang ←

16:06:05 <RalphS> Mark: are we sure we ignore @lang in XHTML?

Unknown Mark: are we sure we ignore @lang in XHTML? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:06:11 <RalphS> Shane: @lang is not in the DTD

Unknown Shane: @lang is not in the DTD [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:06:35 <RalphS> Ben: points 6 and 7 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0142.html left to separate discussions?

Unknown Ben: points 6 and 7 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0142.html left to separate discussions? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:06:52 <RalphS> -- @instanceof behaviour

Unknown RalphS: -- @instanceof behaviour ←

16:07:13 <RalphS> Mark: Ivan and Elias have also stated a preference for @instanceof applying to the element in which the attribute appears

Unknown Mark: Ivan and Elias have also stated a preference for @instanceof applying to the element in which the attribute appears [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:07:25 <RalphS> ... I find it confusing to make @instanceof apply to the child

Unknown RalphS: ... I find it confusing to make @instanceof apply to the child ←

16:07:45 <RalphS> Ben: perhaps we can resolve this in mail

Unknown Ben: perhaps we can resolve this in mail [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:08:08 <RalphS> Mark: this was a reflection of a long practice for LINK being a child of a node

Unknown Mark: this was a reflection of a long practice for LINK being a child of a node [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:08:16 <RalphS> ... this got grey when we reintroduced chaining

Unknown RalphS: ... this got grey when we reintroduced chaining ←

16:08:45 <RalphS> ... we ended up with @instanceof referring to the child, even though @class didn't work this way

Unknown RalphS: ... we ended up with @instanceof referring to the child, even though @class didn't work this way ←

16:09:14 <RalphS> Ben: I think there are reasonable use cases for either interpretation

Unknown Ben: I think there are reasonable use cases for either interpretation [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:09:39 <RalphS> ... but an author who puts too many attributes on a single element is just asking for trouble

Unknown RalphS: ... but an author who puts too many attributes on a single element is just asking for trouble ←

16:10:03 <RalphS> ... an author who clearly wants separate nodes can make a child

Unknown RalphS: ... an author who clearly wants separate nodes can make a child ←

16:10:22 <RalphS> Mark: yes, and I think that approach is much clearer; implicitly creating a bnode is confusing

Unknown Mark: yes, and I think that approach is much clearer; implicitly creating a bnode is confusing [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:10:49 <RalphS> Ben: when @about and @instanceof are the only attributes, the type applies to the @about

Unknown Ben: when @about and @instanceof are the only attributes, the type applies to the @about [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:11:13 <RalphS> ... when @about, @resource and @instanceof all appear, that's where Mark and my interpretations differ

Unknown RalphS: ... when @about, @resource and @instanceof all appear, that's where Mark and my interpretations differ ←

16:11:15 <RalphS> Mark: yes

Unknown Mark: yes [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:11:38 <RalphS> ... this turns out to be a minor change to the processing model, so the decision won't have a huge impact on the document

Unknown RalphS: ... this turns out to be a minor change to the processing model, so the decision won't have a huge impact on the document ←

16:12:35 <RalphS> Ralph: yes, making @resource change the interpretation of @instanceof feels like a huge leap

Unknown Ralph: yes, making @resource change the interpretation of @instanceof feels like a huge leap [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:12:49 <RalphS> Ben: but from the other direction, it's @about that is changing the interpretation

Unknown Ben: but from the other direction, it's @about that is changing the interpretation [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:13:03 <RalphS> Mark: yes, and our focus is on the "aboutness"

Unknown Mark: yes, and our focus is on the "aboutness" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:13:22 <RalphS> Ben: it's a matter of the way you think about it; adding @resource to @about or adding @about to @resource

Unknown Ben: it's a matter of the way you think about it; adding @resource to @about or adding @about to @resource [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:13:40 <RalphS> Mark: if you can come up with a good way of picturing what you're describing, you may convince lots of people

Unknown Mark: if you can come up with a good way of picturing what you're describing, you may convince lots of people [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:14:05 <RalphS> ... a clear conceptual model may convince everyone

Unknown RalphS: ... a clear conceptual model may convince everyone ←

16:14:28 <RalphS> Topic: Schedule

3. Schedule

16:14:47 <RalphS> Ben: everyone OK with Tuesday night for everything we're going to ask the WG to review?

Unknown Ben: everyone OK with Tuesday night for everything we're going to ask the WG to review? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:14:50 <RalphS> Shane, Mark: yes

Unknown RalphS: Shane, Mark: yes ←

16:15:14 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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16:16:11 <RalphS> Ben: we'll work to resolve questions 6 and 7 by email

Unknown Ben: we'll work to resolve questions 6 and 7 by email [ Scribe Assist by Unknown RalphS ] ←

16:31:38 <RalphS> [un-scribed discussion of conformance w.r.t. additional triples ...]

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17:00:39 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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17:00:40 <Zakim> Attendees were markbirbeck, Ralph, Manu, ShaneM, benadida

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17:00:51 <RalphS> rrsagent, please draft minutes

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17:00:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-minutes.html RalphS

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> I see 14 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-rdfa-actions.rdf :

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben collect all the non-binding resolutions into a mail message and call for a vote [1]

ACTION: Ben collect all the non-binding resolutions into a mail message and call for a vote [1] ←

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to write up @instanceof referring to other subjects [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [2]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael look for a more semantically correct predicate for tests 42-45 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] [3]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [4]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben add an isbn: resource example to the Primer to illustrate @resource overriding @href [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/30-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [5]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [6]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to recontact implementors Elias, MarkB, triplr [and Fabien] and post their implementations to http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa#Implementations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/02-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [7]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to work test cases 31 and 32 into primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] [8]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben, Mark, Elias, and other implementors to add xml:lang support [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [9]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [10]

ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [10] ←

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben research whether "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?" is an already closed issue [11]

ACTION: Ben research whether "Can an RDF-conformant parser generate additional triples than those specified in the Syntax specification?" is an already closed issue [11] ←

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane create a conformance section [12]

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark find a reference for SAX or clarify the "SAX-like" language [13]

ACTION: Mark find a reference for SAX or clarify the "SAX-like" language [13] ←

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18:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark find language for canonicalization of markup in plain literals [14]

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