Minuters were approved
All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.
All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.
Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.
PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.
All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.
Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.
Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).
13:32:57 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/04/18-prov-irc
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13:32:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:33:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
13:33:01 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
13:33:02 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
13:33:02 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:14:58 <ivan> trackbot, start telcon
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Ivan Herman: trackbot, start telcon ←
14:15:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:15:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:15:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes ←
14:15:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:15:03 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:15:42 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18
Ivan Herman: ivan has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18 ←
14:49:28 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid
14:52:35 <pgroth> trackbot, start telcon
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14:52:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:52:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:52:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes ←
14:52:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:52:40 <trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
14:52:42 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV
Paul Groth: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:52:45 <Zakim> ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes ←
14:52:54 <pgroth> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.18
14:53:02 <pgroth> Chair: Paul Groth
14:53:15 <pgroth> Scribe: Tom De Nies
(Scribe set to Tom De Nies)
14:53:22 <pgroth> @ivan you still have to edit though :-)
Paul Groth: @ivan you still have to edit though :-) ←
14:53:26 <pgroth> i did it this week
Paul Groth: i did it this week ←
14:53:29 <pgroth> actually much nicer
Paul Groth: actually much nicer ←
14:53:33 <pgroth> +1 to sandro
Paul Groth: +1 to sandro ←
14:53:42 <pgroth> rrsagent, make logs public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:53:51 <ivan> yes, you need to edit:-)
Ivan Herman: yes, you need to edit:-) ←
14:53:52 <pgroth> Regrets: Luc Moreau
14:54:02 <ivan> Regrets+ Khalid
Ivan Herman: Regrets+ Khalid ←
14:54:19 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started ←
14:54:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:54:28 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid
14:54:36 <pgroth> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Paul Groth: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:54:36 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it ←
14:54:42 <ivan> Regrets: Khalid, Luc
14:55:42 <ivan> zakim, code?
Ivan Herman: zakim, code? ←
14:55:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan ←
14:56:50 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:58:06 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
14:58:10 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
14:58:12 <dgarijo> Zakim, ??P6 is me
Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P6 is me ←
14:58:12 <Zakim> +dgarijo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dgarijo; got it ←
14:58:19 <smiles> zakim, ??P0 is me
Simon Miles: zakim, ??P0 is me ←
14:58:19 <Zakim> +smiles; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +smiles; got it ←
14:58:27 <pgroth> Topic: Admin
Summary: Minuters were approved
<pgroth> Summary: Minuters were approved
14:58:43 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa
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14:58:53 <TomDN> Zakim, +329 is me
Zakim, +329 is me ←
14:58:53 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it
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14:58:59 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:58:59 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
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14:59:14 <TomDN> yes
yes ←
14:59:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:59:29 <Paolo> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Paolo Missier: zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:59:29 <Zakim> +Paolo; got it
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15:00:14 <Zakim> + +44.789.470.aabb
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15:00:22 <Zakim> +Curt_Tilmes
Zakim IRC Bot: +Curt_Tilmes ←
15:01:17 <pgroth> Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon
Paul Groth: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon ←
15:01:25 <TomDN> +1
+1 ←
15:01:26 <Curt> 0 (not present)
Curt Tilmes: 0 (not present) ←
15:01:31 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:01:38 <TomDN> pgroth: vote on last week's minutes
Paul Groth: vote on last week's minutes ←
15:01:38 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:01:39 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:02:01 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:02:03 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:02:14 <pgroth> accepted: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon
RESOLVED: Minutes of April 11, 2013 Telcon ←
15:02:31 <TomDN> pgroth: there are no action items
Paul Groth: there are no action items ←
15:02:39 <SamCoppens> zakim, I am with TomDN
Sam Coppens: zakim, I am with TomDN ←
15:02:39 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SamCoppens; got it ←
15:02:40 <pgroth> Topic: All publications
Summary: All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.
<pgroth> Summary: All editors were reminded to stage their final version of documents and remove links to editor's drafts. Also editors were reminded to check the provenance of provenance.
15:02:50 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PublicationRequestApril30
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PublicationRequestApril30 ←
15:03:08 <TomDN> pgroth: All editors need to check if the staged version is on the publication request wiki page
Paul Groth: All editors need to check if the staged version is on the publication request wiki page ←
15:03:18 <TomDN> correct for prov-dictionary
correct for prov-dictionary ←
15:03:20 <Zakim> + +44.131.467.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.131.467.aacc ←
15:03:28 <Zakim> + +238059aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +238059aadd ←
15:03:29 <jcheney> zakim, aacc is me
James Cheney: zakim, aacc is me ←
15:03:29 <Zakim> +jcheney; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jcheney; got it ←
15:03:32 <smiles> checked correct for primer (at last week's telecon)
Simon Miles: checked correct for primer (at last week's telecon) ←
15:04:00 <TomDN> pgroth: Reminder to remove the links to editor's drafts in ALL final documents
Paul Groth: Reminder to remove the links to editor's drafts in ALL final documents ←
15:04:03 <dgarijo> removed from the dc note :)
Daniel Garijo: removed from the dc note :) ←
15:04:07 <stain> zakim, +44.789.470.aabb is me
Stian Soiland-Reyes: zakim, +44.789.470.aabb is me ←
15:04:07 <Zakim> +stain; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +stain; got it ←
15:04:09 <Dong> zakim, aadd is me
Trung Huynh: zakim, aadd is me ←
15:04:09 <Zakim> +Dong; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Dong; got it ←
15:04:15 <TomDN> ... please check before you stage
... please check before you stage ←
15:04:19 <Zakim> + +1.315.330.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.315.330.aaee ←
15:04:29 <TomDN> pgroth: We've been going through typos, thanks.
Paul Groth: We've been going through typos, thanks. ←
15:04:31 <smiles> Yes
Simon Miles: Yes ←
15:04:40 <TomDN> ... Who has checked their provenance of provenance?
... Who has checked their provenance of provenance? ←
15:04:54 <TomDN> ... PROV-XML?
... PROV-XML? ←
15:05:04 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.818.731.aaff ←
15:05:15 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
15:05:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgroth, Ivan, dgarijo, smiles, TomDN (muted), Paolo, stain, Curt_Tilmes, [IPcaller], jcheney, Dong, +1.315.330.aaee, +1.818.731.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgroth, Ivan, dgarijo, smiles, TomDN (muted), Paolo, stain, Curt_Tilmes, [IPcaller], jcheney, Dong, +1.315.330.aaee, +1.818.731.aaff ←
15:05:16 <Zakim> TomDN has SamCoppens
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN has SamCoppens ←
15:05:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see lebot, hook, SamCoppens, Dong, zednik, jcheney, Curt, Paolo, TomDN, dgarijo, smiles, pgroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, GK-ALT, stain, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see lebot, hook, SamCoppens, Dong, zednik, jcheney, Curt, Paolo, TomDN, dgarijo, smiles, pgroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, GK-ALT, stain, trackbot ←
15:05:17 <TomDN> zednik: I'll have to look
Stephan Zednik: I'll have to look ←
15:05:34 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:05:39 <TomDN> ... timeframe?
... timeframe? ←
15:06:08 <TomDN> pgroth: Not really pressing, but would be great if it's done by the publication
Paul Groth: Not really pressing, but would be great if it's done by the publication ←
15:06:22 <TomDN> ... Not done yet for PROV-AQ and PROV-Overview
... Not done yet for PROV-AQ and PROV-Overview ←
15:06:27 <TomDN> ... PROV-DC?
... PROV-DC? ←
15:06:49 <TomDN> dgarijo: Added some rdfs, but haven't looked at Luc's document yet
Daniel Garijo: Added some rdfs, but haven't looked at Luc's document yet ←
15:06:59 <TomDN> pgroth: be sure to check Luc's provenance first
Paul Groth: be sure to check Luc's provenance first ←
15:07:07 <TomDN> not yet
not yet ←
15:07:28 <TomDN> Tom: PROV-Dictionary not looked at it yet
Tom De Nies: PROV-Dictionary not looked at it yet ←
15:07:40 <TomDN> jcheney: Not done yet for PROV-Sem
James Cheney: Not done yet for PROV-Sem ←
15:08:04 <dgarijo> +q
Daniel Garijo: +q ←
15:08:14 <TomDN> Dong: haven't looked at it yet for PROV-Implementations
Trung Huynh: haven't looked at it yet for PROV-Implementations ←
15:08:14 <pgroth> ack dgarijo
Paul Groth: ack dgarijo ←
15:09:06 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:09:08 <TomDN> dgarijo: Is it the provenance descriptions on the mercurial repository?
Daniel Garijo: Is it the provenance descriptions on the mercurial repository? ←
15:09:12 <jcheney> luc's prov-sem stuff looks fine
James Cheney: luc's prov-sem stuff looks fine ←
15:09:13 <lebot> q+
Timothy Lebo: q+ ←
15:09:23 <jcheney> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn
James Cheney: https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn ←
15:09:25 <TomDN> pgroth: yes, we cna use those, unless you made some provenance yourself
Paul Groth: yes, we cna use those, unless you made some provenance yourself ←
15:09:38 <lebot> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/provenance
Timothy Lebo: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/provenance ←
15:09:47 <TomDN> lebot: Just want to make sure that the provenance directory in mercurial is the correct one
Timothy Lebo: Just want to make sure that the provenance directory in mercurial is the correct one ←
15:09:49 <pgroth> https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn
Paul Groth: https://github.com/lucmoreau/ProvToolbox/blob/newschema/prov-n/src/test/resources/prov/prov-family.provn ←
15:10:13 <pgroth> ack lebot
Paul Groth: ack lebot ←
15:10:22 <pgroth> Topic: Prov-aq
Summary: All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.
<pgroth> Summary: All issues have been addressed and Paul will stage document.
15:10:24 <TomDN> pgroth: That's where we put all the prov-of-prov, but James posted the one from Luc. (which is eventually find its way there)
Paul Groth: That's where we put all the prov-of-prov, but James posted the one from Luc. (which is eventually find its way there) ←
15:10:54 <TomDN> pgroth: Graham has been responding to remaining issues
Paul Groth: Graham has been responding to remaining issues ←
15:11:00 <TomDN> ... now up to me for staging
... now up to me for staging ←
15:11:02 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-DC
Summary: Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.
<pgroth> Summary: Comments from Stian and Antoine were mostly addressed a couple of minor things remained to be done. The group agreed not to wait on subsequent comments from Antoine because they were well past the deadline for comments. Tim agreed to do a final grammar check on the document. The group voted to publish PROV-DC as a working group note.
15:11:25 <TomDN> dgarijo: Addressed most of Stian's and Antoine's comments
Daniel Garijo: Addressed most of Stian's and Antoine's comments ←
15:11:52 <TomDN> dgarijo: Would be nice if someone could have a final look, because of the large number of revisions made.
Daniel Garijo: Would be nice if someone could have a final look, because of the large number of revisions made. ←
15:12:19 <dgarijo> thx Tim!
Daniel Garijo: thx Tim! ←
15:12:20 <pgroth> tim to review prov-dc for grammar and stuff
Paul Groth: tim to review prov-dc for grammar and stuff ←
15:12:23 <TomDN> lebot: I'll do it. (grammar and syntax checking)
Timothy Lebo: I'll do it. (grammar and syntax checking) ←
15:12:41 <TomDN> pgroth: Any more comments?
Paul Groth: Any more comments? ←
15:12:43 <stain> I'm fine to vote
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I'm fine to vote ←
15:12:48 <TomDN> ... Blockers from the reviewers?
... Blockers from the reviewers? ←
15:13:23 <TomDN> dgarijo: Antoine will make some comments via email. Can we make changes after this vote?
Daniel Garijo: Antoine will make some comments via email. Can we make changes after this vote? ←
15:14:02 <stain> Antoine is not on the call now, is he?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Antoine is not on the call now, is he? ←
15:14:12 <TomDN> pgroth: Only until final staging
Paul Groth: Only until final staging ←
15:14:24 <TomDN> ... after that, this is final release (Working Group Note)
... after that, this is final release (Working Group Note) ←
15:15:11 <TomDN> dgarijo: He hasn't suggested changes yet, but he was going to comment on the mapping via email.
Daniel Garijo: He hasn't suggested changes yet, but he was going to comment on the mapping via email. ←
15:15:37 <TomDN> pgroth: We already gave a long time to comment. I think it's enough.
Paul Groth: We already gave a long time to comment. I think it's enough. ←
15:15:50 <stain> +1 - unless he has already strongly voiced (or said he would voice) any particular blocking concern
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 - unless he has already strongly voiced (or said he would voice) any particular blocking concern ←
15:15:54 <TomDN> ... If real issues arise, they can be handled in the errata/FAQ
... If real issues arise, they can be handled in the errata/FAQ ←
15:16:03 <stain> pgroth: does he not sit meters away from you..?
Paul Groth: does he not sit meters away from you..? [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
15:16:15 <TomDN> pgroth: Do you have the link for the document to vote on?
Paul Groth: Do you have the link for the document to vote on? ←
15:16:32 <TomDN> dgarijo: yes, it's the staged document (not the ED)
Daniel Garijo: yes, it's the staged document (not the ED) ←
15:16:52 <dgarijo> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/dc-note/releases/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/Overview.html#list_of_direct_mappings2
Daniel Garijo: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/dc-note/releases/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/Overview.html#list_of_direct_mappings2 ←
15:17:08 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:17:16 <dgarijo> I still have to push a couple of minor things, but that is the doc.
Daniel Garijo: I still have to push a couple of minor things, but that is the doc. ←
15:17:20 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.
PROPOSED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note. ←
15:17:24 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:17:28 <pgroth> +1
Paul Groth: +1 ←
15:17:33 <Dong> +1
Trung Huynh: +1 ←
15:17:34 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:17:35 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:17:35 <zednik> +1 (RPI)
Stephan Zednik: +1 (RPI) ←
15:17:35 <TomDN> +1
+1 ←
15:17:36 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:17:40 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:17:41 <hook> +1
15:17:45 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:17:53 <Curt> +1
Curt Tilmes: +1 ←
15:18:01 <stain> no, it's a note
Stian Soiland-Reyes: no, it's a note ←
15:18:20 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note.
RESOLVED: to publish prov-dc as a Working Group note. ←
15:18:33 <TomDN> pgroth: Congratulations Daniel and Simon.
Paul Groth: Congratulations Daniel and Simon. ←
15:18:37 <dgarijo> :)
Daniel Garijo: :) ←
15:18:42 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Dictionary
Summary: PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.
<pgroth> Summary: PROV-Dictionary was staged the group voted to publish it as a working group note.
15:18:44 <smiles> Kai not me
Simon Miles: Kai not me ←
15:18:46 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
15:18:46 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted ←
15:19:04 <TomDN> Tom: PROV-Dictionary staged
Tom De Nies: PROV-Dictionary staged ←
15:19:05 <TomDN> ... meets the pubrules as far as I can tell, and validates and passes the link-checker
... meets the pubrules as far as I can tell, and validates and passes the link-checker ←
15:19:07 <TomDN> ... All remaining issues pending review, want to close them, do we need a vote?
... All remaining issues pending review, want to close them, do we need a vote? ←
15:19:08 <TomDN> https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/19
https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/products/19 ←
15:19:10 <TomDN> Tom: prov-n example needs to be validated.
Tom De Nies: prov-n example needs to be validated. ←
15:19:12 <TomDN> ... still todo: check provenance of PROV-Dictionary
... still todo: check provenance of PROV-Dictionary ←
15:19:13 <TomDN> Tom: Document to vote on: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/releases/NOTE-prov-dictionary-20130430/Overview.html
Tom De Nies: Document to vote on: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/dictionary/releases/NOTE-prov-dictionary-20130430/Overview.html ←
15:20:00 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:20:05 <TomDN> pgroth: Comments?
Paul Groth: Comments? ←
15:20:30 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.
Paul Groth: PROPOSED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note. ←
15:20:32 <TomDN> ... then we are ready to vote
... then we are ready to vote ←
15:20:37 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:20:38 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:20:39 <Curt> +1
Curt Tilmes: +1 ←
15:20:40 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:20:40 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:20:40 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:20:43 <TomDN> +1 (!)
+1 (!) ←
15:20:44 <pgroth> +1
Paul Groth: +1 ←
15:20:44 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:20:46 <hook> +1
15:20:48 <Dong> +1
Trung Huynh: +1 ←
15:20:48 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:20:53 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:21:14 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note.
RESOLVED: to publish prov-dictionary as a Working Group note. ←
15:21:33 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
15:21:33 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
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15:21:35 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-XML
Summary: All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.
<pgroth> Summary: All comments have been addressed. The group voted to publish PROV-XML as working group note.
15:21:58 <TomDN> zednik: Got feedback from paul, luc and tom
Stephan Zednik: Got feedback from paul, luc, james and tom ←
15:22:17 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:22:23 <TomDN> ... addressed everything, Editor's Draft is 99,99% finished.
... addressed everything, Editor's Draft is 99,99% finished. ←
15:22:32 <TomDN> ... Not staged yet, but will do soon
... Not staged yet, but will do soon ←
15:22:43 <TomDN> mine were all fine
mine were all fine ←
15:22:54 <Curt> Did you go through all of Luc's annotated pages, Stephan?
Curt Tilmes: Did you go through all of Luc's annotated pages, Stephan? ←
15:22:56 <TomDN> pgroth: All my comments were addressed.
Paul Groth: All my comments were addressed. ←
15:22:58 <jcheney> ok with me
James Cheney: ok with me ←
15:23:06 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:23:10 <Zakim> + +1.661.382.aagg
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15:23:14 <zednik> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/xml/prov-xml.html
Stephan Zednik: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/tip/xml/prov-xml.html ←
15:23:14 <Curt> I saw a bunch of recent changes, but didn't look over everything recently
Curt Tilmes: I saw a bunch of recent changes, but didn't look over everything recently ←
15:23:27 <TomDN> s/paul, luc and tom/paul, luc, james and tom
15:23:37 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.
Paul Groth: PROPOSED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note. ←
15:23:45 <Dong> +1
Trung Huynh: +1 ←
15:23:46 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:23:47 <TomDN> +1
+1 ←
15:23:47 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:23:50 <hook> +1
15:23:51 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:23:52 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:23:52 <Curt> +1
Curt Tilmes: +1 ←
15:23:54 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:23:56 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:24:03 <zednik> +1 :-)
Stephan Zednik: +1 :-) ←
15:24:11 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:24:46 <TomDN> pgroth: any other comments?
Paul Groth: any other comments? ←
15:24:50 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note.
RESOLVED: to publish prov-xml as a Working Group note. ←
15:25:10 <TomDN> pgroth: Congratulations Stephan, Curt and Hook!
Paul Groth: Congratulations Stephan, Curt and Hook! ←
15:25:14 <pgroth> Topic: PROV-Overview
Summary: Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.
<pgroth> Summary: Paul went over the changes in PROV-Overview. The group discussed whether we had met the recommendations set forth by the PROV Incubator Group. In James' review, he proposed that we had. There was consensus that PROV does indeed meet the recommendations. The group voted to publish PROV-Overview as a working group note.
15:25:20 <pgroth> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/overview/prov-overview.html
Paul Groth: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/overview/prov-overview.html ←
15:25:49 <TomDN> pgroth: made a few changes based on the received comments, thanks for those
Paul Groth: made a few changes based on the received comments, thanks for those ←
15:26:18 <TomDN> pgroth: made colors correspond to document roadmap and layout correspond to dependencies between the document.
Paul Groth: made colors correspond to document roadmap and layout correspond to dependencies between the document. ←
15:26:41 <dgarijo> yep
Daniel Garijo: yep ←
15:26:45 <TomDN> ... Also added core recommendations from the PROV Incubator Group, stating that we met all of them
... Also added core recommendations from the PROV Incubator Group, stating that we met all of them ←
15:26:53 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:26:56 <TomDN> ... Any questions?
... Any questions? ←
15:28:01 <TomDN> pgroth: One thing to discuss was: Did we meet the requirements?
Paul Groth: One thing to discuss was: Did we meet the requirements? ←
15:28:10 <TomDN> ... There was one about accessing provenance.
... There was one about accessing provenance. ←
15:28:31 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:28:35 <TomDN> ... Luc didn't think we met it, but James and I did because we have the extensibility.
... Luc didn't think we met it, but James and I did because we have the extensibility. ←
15:28:57 <TomDN> I think we certainly provide enough flexibility
I think we certainly provide enough flexibility ←
15:29:07 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:29:12 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/#Broad_Recommendations
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/#Broad_Recommendations ←
15:29:19 <smiles> Isn't PAQ quite agnostic to provenance format?
Simon Miles: Isn't PAQ quite agnostic to provenance format? ←
15:29:30 <Curt> "
Curt Tilmes: " ←
15:29:38 <TomDN> pgroth: Yes, the PROV-AQ is agnostic to format
Paul Groth: Yes, the PROV-AQ is agnostic to format ←
15:29:42 <Curt> "show include a mechanism" I think we meet
Curt Tilmes: "show include a mechanism" I think we meet ←
15:29:42 <dgarijo> we provide a mapping to vocabularies that define terms to define licenses (DC).
Daniel Garijo: we provide a mapping to vocabularies that define terms to define licenses (DC). ←
15:29:47 <Curt> "should"
Curt Tilmes: "should" ←
15:30:29 <dgarijo> no objections from my part.
Daniel Garijo: no objections from my part. ←
15:30:30 <jcheney> sounds good to me
James Cheney: sounds good to me ←
15:30:30 <smiles> Yes, I think we meet the requirement in a reasonable way
Simon Miles: Yes, I think we meet the requirement in a reasonable way ←
15:30:39 <TomDN> pgroth: So no objections to saying that we support this recommendation.
Paul Groth: So no objections to saying that we support this recommendation. ←
15:30:52 <pgroth> PROPOSED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.
PROPOSED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note. ←
15:30:54 <dgarijo> +1
Daniel Garijo: +1 ←
15:30:56 <SamCoppens> +1
Sam Coppens: +1 ←
15:30:57 <smiles> +1
Simon Miles: +1 ←
15:30:58 <TomDN> +1
+1 ←
15:31:00 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:31:02 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:31:03 <hook> +1
15:31:03 <stain> +1
Stian Soiland-Reyes: +1 ←
15:31:03 <Curt> +1
Curt Tilmes: +1 ←
15:31:05 <pgroth> +1
Paul Groth: +1 ←
15:31:13 <lebot> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:31:17 <Paolo> +1
Paolo Missier: +1 ←
15:31:20 <zednik> +1
Stephan Zednik: +1 ←
15:31:30 <Dong> +1
Trung Huynh: +1 ←
15:31:42 <pgroth> Accepted: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note.
RESOLVED: to publish prov-overview as a Working Group note. ←
15:31:57 <TomDN> pgroth: I'll stage it somewhere this week
Paul Groth: I'll stage it somewhere this week ←
15:32:33 <dgarijo> +q
Daniel Garijo: +q ←
<pgroth> Topic: Promotion
Summary: Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).
<pgroth> Summary: Daniel inquired if they could use current tutorial material in subsequent tutorials. The answer was yes (just keep the provenance).
15:32:40 <TomDN> pgroth: We'll be looking into promotion for the standard once it's published
Paul Groth: We'll be looking into promotion for the standard once it's published ←
15:33:09 <TomDN> WWW2013 is May 12th, we should promote it there I think.
WWW2013 is May 12th, we should promote it there I think. ←
15:33:25 <TomDN> dgarijo: Can we reuse the blog material and such on other websites?
Daniel Garijo: Can we reuse the blog material and such on other websites? ←
15:33:33 <pgroth> q?
Paul Groth: q? ←
15:33:37 <pgroth> ack dgarijo
Paul Groth: ack dgarijo ←
15:33:41 <TomDN> pgroth: Yes, but keep the provenance of it ;)
Paul Groth: Yes, but keep the provenance of it ;) ←
15:33:48 <stain> how sad!
Stian Soiland-Reyes: how sad! ←
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15:34:26 <Zakim> Attendees were pgroth, Ivan, dgarijo, smiles, +329331aaaa, TomDN, Paolo, Curt_Tilmes, [IPcaller], SamCoppens, +44.131.467.aacc, +238059aadd, jcheney, stain, Dong, +1.315.330.aaee,
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15:34:30 <pgroth> @ivan do you have time to chat?
Paul Groth: @ivan do you have time to chat? ←
15:34:43 <pgroth> rrsagent, set log public
Paul Groth: rrsagent, set log public ←
15:34:48 <pgroth> rrsagent, draft minutes
Paul Groth: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:34:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/18-prov-minutes.html pgroth
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15:34:53 <pgroth> trackbot, end telcon
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