None.
There are some format problems with the chatlog. Please correct them and reload this page. They are labeled on this page in a red box, like this message.
It may be helpful to
16:02:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-irc ←
16:02:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
16:02:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be ←
16:02:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot ←
16:02:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
16:02:58 <trackbot> Date: 26 September 2011
16:03:06 <Luc> Zakim, this will be PROV
Luc Moreau: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
16:03:06 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Luc ←
16:03:15 <tlebo> wiki for this meeting: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PIL_OWL_Ontology_Meeting_2011-09-26
Timothy Lebo: wiki for this meeting: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PIL_OWL_Ontology_Meeting_2011-09-26 ←
16:03:24 <stain> http://titanpad.com/wN4lUHpAcv
Stian Soiland-Reyes: http://titanpad.com/wN4lUHpAcv ←
16:04:33 <Luc> Zakim, this will be SW_(OWL)
Luc Moreau: Zakim, this will be SW_(OWL) ←
16:04:33 <Zakim> ok, Luc, I see SW_(OWL)12:00PM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Luc, I see SW_(OWL)12:00PM already started ←
16:04:54 <tlebo> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/diagrams/2011-09-26-tlebo/crime.owl.png
Timothy Lebo: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/diagrams/2011-09-26-tlebo/crime.owl.png ←
16:04:55 <Luc> rrsagent, make logs public
Luc Moreau: rrsagent, make logs public ←
16:05:03 <Luc> Chair: Satya
16:05:40 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
16:07:26 <Luc> what is provenanceContainer in entity? I don't understand the notation used.
Luc Moreau: what is provenanceContainer in entity? I don't understand the notation used. ←
16:07:59 <stain> file:///home/stain/stuff/src/provenance-wg/prov/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#provenancecontainer I guess
Scribe problem: the name 'file' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown file: ///home/stain/stuff/src/provenance-wg/prov/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#provenancecontainer I guess [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
16:08:14 <stain> that is a subclass
Stian Soiland-Reyes: that is a subclass ←
16:08:48 <Paolo_> q+
Paolo Missier: q+ ←
16:09:16 <Zakim> +??P3
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←
16:09:44 <tlebo> TODO: break all visual abbreviations - show rdfs:subClassOf directly.
Scribe problem: the name 'TODO' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown TODO: break all visual abbreviations - show rdfs:subClassOf directly. [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:09:54 <stain> Luc does not like that a ProvenanceContainer is a subclass of Entity
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Luc does not like that a ProvenanceContainer is a subclass of Entity ←
16:10:05 <tlebo> TODO: ensure that the ProvenanceContainer is no longer an Entity. (Tim)
Scribe problem: the name 'TODO' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown TODO: ensure that the ProvenanceContainer is no longer an Entity. (Tim) [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:10:17 <Luc> it's not that Luc doesn't like. It does not match the data model.
Luc Moreau: it's not that Luc doesn't like. It does not match the data model. ←
16:10:43 <stain> In PROV-DM, an entity expression is a representation of an identifiable characterized thing.
Stian Soiland-Reyes: In PROV-DM, an entity expression is a representation of an identifiable characterized thing. ←
16:10:48 <stain> so is the provcontainer not one of those?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so is the provcontainer not one of those? ←
16:11:25 <Luc> no
Luc Moreau: no ←
16:11:25 <tlebo> luc: top level classes: ProvenanceContainer, Account, Entity, ProcessExecution
Luc Moreau: top level classes: ProvenanceContainer, Account, Entity, ProcessExecution [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:11:55 <stain> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#ProvenanceContainer
Stian Soiland-Reyes: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#ProvenanceContainer ←
16:12:00 <Luc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#ProvenanceContainer
Luc Moreau: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#ProvenanceContainer ←
16:12:34 <Paolo_> q?
Paolo Missier: q? ←
16:12:38 <Paolo_> q-
Paolo Missier: q- ←
16:12:44 <satya> This is PROV-ISSUE-66
Satya Sahoo: This is PROV-ISSUE-66 ←
16:12:50 <tlebo> paolo: we are not "directly" asserting provenance of ProvenanceContainer
Paolo Missier: we are not "directly" asserting provenance of ProvenanceContainer [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:14:35 <khalidbelhajjame> I think we should just stick to the data model as much as possible
Khalid Belhajjame: I think we should just stick to the data model as much as possible ←
16:15:42 <dgarijo> @khalid: yes, of course. But if the model is designed for asserting provenance, then it should provide the mechanisms to assert provenance about provenance records too!
Daniel Garijo: @khalid: yes, of course. But if the model is designed for asserting provenance, then it should provide the mechanisms to assert provenance about provenance records too! ←
16:16:10 <khalidbelhajjame> +q
Khalid Belhajjame: +q ←
16:16:27 <Luc> satya, there is a type error!
Luc Moreau: satya, there is a type error! ←
16:17:30 <tlebo> (the objective of the diagram was to illustrate how a third party could extend PROV - does anyone have feedback on how well/poorly this is conveyed?)
Timothy Lebo: (the objective of the diagram was to illustrate how a third party could extend PROV - does anyone have feedback on how well/poorly this is conveyed?) ←
16:17:49 <dgarijo> could you provide the link to the diagram, please? I joined late :(
Daniel Garijo: could you provide the link to the diagram, please? I joined late :( ←
16:18:01 <stain> tlebo: I think it's good, but I wonder if we could show extension by subproperties or subclass
Timothy Lebo: I think it's good, but I wonder if we could show extension by subproperties or subclass [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
16:18:02 <tlebo> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/diagrams/2011-09-26-tlebo/crime.owl.png
Timothy Lebo: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/diagrams/2011-09-26-tlebo/crime.owl.png ←
16:18:20 <stain> just adding new attributes to an prov:Entity is merely how entity is to be used anyway..?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: just adding new attributes to an prov:Entity is merely how entity is to be used anyway..? ←
16:18:45 <tlebo> @stian: news:Entity subclass prov:Entity , THEN assert the domains on news:Entity ?
Timothy Lebo: @stian: news:Entity subclass prov:Entity , THEN assert the domains on news:Entity ? ←
16:18:58 <Luc> you can take multiple perspective on a provenance container: it's a curated set of assertions, it's a set of triples in a triple store, it's a 'platonic' set of triples, it's something in a database.
Luc Moreau: you can take multiple perspective on a provenance container: it's a curated set of assertions, it's a set of triples in a triple store, it's a 'platonic' set of triples, it's something in a database. ←
16:18:58 <stain> so Journalist subclass of Agent, or Publishing subclass of ProcessExecution might be interesting. But then you are very close to the danger of touching on roles..
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so Journalist subclass of Agent, or Publishing subclass of ProcessExecution might be interesting. But then you are very close to the danger of touching on roles.. ←
16:19:08 <Luc> Each of them can be modelled by an entity expression.
Luc Moreau: Each of them can be modelled by an entity expression. ←
16:19:47 <Luc> An apple is represented by an entity expression, which involves selecting some attributes
Luc Moreau: An apple is represented by an entity expression, which involves selecting some attributes ←
16:20:10 <khalidbelhajjame> -q
Khalid Belhajjame: -q ←
16:21:51 <stain> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#expression-Account says
Stian Soiland-Reyes: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#expression-Account says ←
16:21:54 <stain> Note: Currently, the non-terminal asserter is defined as URI. We may want the asserter to be an agent instead, and therefore use PROV-DM to express the provenance of PROV-DM assertions. The editors seek inputs on how to resolve this issue.
Scribe problem: the name 'Note' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Note: Currently, the non-terminal asserter is defined as URI. We may want the asserter to be an agent instead, and therefore use PROV-DM to express the provenance of PROV-DM assertions. The editors seek inputs on how to resolve this issue. [ Scribe Assist by Stian Soiland-Reyes ] ←
16:22:03 <stain> is this what we've briefly touched on?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: is this what we've briefly touched on? ←
16:23:40 <Luc> yes stain
Luc Moreau: yes stain ←
16:23:51 <dgarijo> I have to agree with Satya
Daniel Garijo: I have to agree with Satya ←
16:23:58 <dgarijo> I don't see the difference either.
Daniel Garijo: I don't see the difference either. ←
16:25:09 <dgarijo> if a prov container can be set of statements, and we are able to refer to them and assert triples using them as source, then it has a identifier.
Daniel Garijo: if a prov container can be set of statements, and we are able to refer to them and assert triples using them as source, then it has a identifier. ←
16:26:47 <Paolo_> the corollary of what Luc is saying, i.e., viewing a provenance container as a "thing in the world", is that you don't need to make ProvenanceContainer a subclass of Entity in order to do "meta-provenance"
Paolo Missier: the corollary of what Luc is saying, i.e., viewing a provenance container as a "thing in the world", is that you don't need to make ProvenanceContainer a subclass of Entity in order to do "meta-provenance" ←
16:27:21 <stain> so Luc's point is that there (could be) other attributes you need to specify, like the location the provenance container is stored in, or description of its content, etc - many entities
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so Luc's point is that there (could be) other attributes you need to specify, like the location the provenance container is stored in, or description of its content, etc - many entities ←
16:28:02 <dgarijo> +q
Daniel Garijo: +q ←
16:28:09 <khalidbelhajjame> En entity is a characterization of a thing, provenance container is not necessarily a characterization of a thing.
Khalid Belhajjame: En entity is a characterization of a thing, provenance container is not necessarily a characterization of a thing. ←
16:29:07 <stain> mm.. so there's nothing saying a ProvContainer *is not* an entity, but it would probably not be a good entity on its own because there are many ways to describe such meta-provenance
Stian Soiland-Reyes: mm.. so there's nothing saying a ProvContainer *is not* an entity, but it would probably not be a good entity on its own because there are many ways to describe such meta-provenance ←
16:29:43 <khalidbelhajjame> A provContainer can be a characterization, but not necessarily one.
Khalid Belhajjame: A provContainer can be a characterization, but not necessarily one. ←
16:30:33 <satya> q+
Satya Sahoo: q+ ←
16:30:43 <satya> ack daniel
Satya Sahoo: ack daniel ←
16:31:13 <dgarijo> -q
Daniel Garijo: -q ←
16:31:18 <dgarijo> ack satya
Daniel Garijo: ack satya ←
16:32:42 <tlebo> q+
Timothy Lebo: q+ ←
16:32:45 <dgarijo> ok, now it is clear for me. So basically Prov container and Entity are not disjoint, but not necessarily the former subclass of the latter.
Daniel Garijo: ok, now it is clear for me. So basically Prov container and Entity are not disjoint, but not necessarily the former subclass of the latter. ←
16:33:16 <stain> and t might be misleading to say it is always an entity, because it hints that you *should* do meta-provenance in only a single way
Stian Soiland-Reyes: and t might be misleading to say it is always an entity, because it hints that you *should* do meta-provenance in only a single way ←
16:34:08 <dgarijo> :)
Daniel Garijo: :) ←
16:34:26 <tlebo> provenanceContainer: is a list of accounts, namespace definitions, and a collection of provenance assertions.
Scribe problem: the name 'provenanceContainer' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown provenanceContainer: is a list of accounts, namespace definitions, and a collection of provenance assertions. [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:36:39 <stain> so provenanceContainer() in the model is rdf:RDF (or equivalent headers) in RDF
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so provenanceContainer() in the model is rdf:RDF (or equivalent headers) in RDF ←
16:36:55 <tlebo> JSON needs ProvenanceContainer, while RDF/OWL does not need it "because it comes for free".
Timothy Lebo: JSON needs ProvenanceContainer, while RDF/OWL does not need it "because it comes for free". ←
16:37:05 <dgarijo> @tim: but it depends on the way you implement it: if you select named graphs, then your provenance container could be the named graphs.
Daniel Garijo: @tim: but it depends on the way you implement it: if you select named graphs, then your provenance container could be the named graphs. ←
16:37:20 <stain> mm.. and then you can do RDF->model->JSON->model->RDF and somewhat at least don't mess up namespaces and stuff
Stian Soiland-Reyes: mm.. and then you can do RDF->model->JSON->model->RDF and somewhat at least don't mess up namespaces and stuff ←
16:41:14 <tlebo> TODO: class diagram (Khalid)
Scribe problem: the name 'TODO' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carl Reed Christine Runnegar Curt Tilmes Daniel Schutzer Daniel Garijo David Hau David Corsar Deborah McGuinness Ed Summers Edoardo Pignotti Eric Stephan Graham Klyne Helena Deus Iker Huerga Ilkay Altintas Irini Fundulaki James Myers James McCusker James Frew James Cheney Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jun Zhao Jörn Hees Kai Eckert Khalid Belhajjame Linda Stewart Luc Moreau Maria Theodoridou Martin Doerr Olaf Hartig Paolo Missier Paul Groth Paulo Pinheiro da Silva Ralph Hodgson Reza B'Far Ryan Golden Sam Coppens Sandro Hawke Satya Sahoo Simon Miles Simon Dobson Stephan Zednik Stephen Cresswell Stian Soiland-Reyes Ted Thibodeau Timothy Lebo Trung Huynh Vinh Nguyen Yogesh Simmhan Yolanda Gil Yuting Zhao david schaengold Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown TODO: class diagram (Khalid) [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:41:25 <Luc> how is this group proposing to model accounts?
Luc Moreau: how is this group proposing to model accounts? ←
16:41:31 <khalidbelhajjame> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html
Khalid Belhajjame: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html ←
16:41:33 <satya> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#specialization-of-provenance-ontology-classes
Satya Sahoo: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#specialization-of-provenance-ontology-classes ←
16:42:11 <dgarijo> @Luc: should they be a subclass of provenance container?
Daniel Garijo: @Luc: should they be a subclass of provenance container? ←
16:42:30 <stain> @Luc I think we are still thinking of that as named graph / separate OWL/RDF resources per account - due to how identifiers depends on the account in the abstract model
Stian Soiland-Reyes: @Luc I think we are still thinking of that as named graph / separate OWL/RDF resources per account - due to how identifiers depends on the account in the abstract model ←
16:43:11 <dgarijo> since they are a collection of provenance assertions too.
Daniel Garijo: since they are a collection of provenance assertions too. ←
16:43:13 <Luc> yes, probably name graph would be the way ... but then this does not show in OWL?
Luc Moreau: yes, probably name graph would be the way ... but then this does not show in OWL? ←
16:43:26 <tlebo> stian: show the other subclasses of the extension.
Stian Soiland-Reyes: show the other subclasses of the extension. [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
16:43:39 <tlebo> (TODO: Tim show this)
Timothy Lebo: (TODO: Tim show this) ←
16:43:40 <khalidbelhajjame> @Luc, yes I agree, we should be as explicit as possible
Khalid Belhajjame: @Luc, yes I agree, we should be as explicit as possible ←
16:45:28 <dgarijo> and what about having account as subclass of prov container? I think it could be fine.
Daniel Garijo: and what about having account as subclass of prov container? I think it could be fine. ←
16:46:30 <Luc> @daniel, an account would then inherit prov container's properties ... but accounts have no namespace, and no index of accounts
Luc Moreau: @daniel, an account would then inherit prov container's properties ... but accounts have no namespace, and no index of accounts ←
16:46:49 <Paolo_> @Daniel yes that would be reasonable -- something we discussed in the model
Paolo Missier: @Daniel yes that would be reasonable -- something we discussed in the model ←
16:47:11 <tlebo> the news crime file example: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/instances/example-1/crime.ttl.vertical.png
Timothy Lebo: the news crime file example: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/2b514f651c03/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/crime-file/instances/example-1/crime.ttl.vertical.png ←
16:47:41 <stain> I would suggest to do role example with a process execution with 2 or more uses or 2 or more generations
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I would suggest to do role example with a process execution with 2 or more uses or 2 or more generations ←
16:47:45 <stain> so that you see why you would want a role
Stian Soiland-Reyes: so that you see why you would want a role ←
16:47:51 <stain> or 2 or more agents
Stian Soiland-Reyes: or 2 or more agents ←
16:48:21 <stain> I have some in http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/workflow/prov2.ttl
Stian Soiland-Reyes: I have some in http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/examples/ontology-extensions/workflow/prov2.ttl ←
16:48:49 <Luc> i will have to go, sorry!
Luc Moreau: i will have to go, sorry! ←
16:49:00 <dgarijo> bye!
Daniel Garijo: bye! ←
16:49:54 <satya> ok bye Daniel
Satya Sahoo: ok bye Daniel ←
16:49:55 <satya> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#entity
Satya Sahoo: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/ontology/ProvenanceFormalModel.html#entity ←
16:50:06 <stain> those notes don't match the exxmple
Stian Soiland-Reyes: those notes don't match the exxmple ←
16:50:23 <dgarijo> no, I wasn't leaving, just saying bye to Luc :)
Daniel Garijo: no, I wasn't leaving, just saying bye to Luc :) ←
16:50:36 <Zakim> - +44.238.059.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.238.059.aabb ←
16:52:18 <satya> oh ok :)
Satya Sahoo: oh ok :) ←
16:52:41 <satya> bye Luc
Satya Sahoo: bye Luc ←
16:59:00 <tlebo> +1
(No events recorded for 6 minutes)
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
16:59:35 <tlebo> satya: we let the conceptual model become the logical model.
Satya Sahoo: we let the conceptual model become the logical model. [ Scribe Assist by Timothy Lebo ] ←
17:04:10 <Zakim> -??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0 ←
17:05:29 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
17:09:34 <jcheney> Got to go.
James Cheney: Got to go. ←
17:09:38 <Zakim> -??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P27 ←
17:09:48 <dgarijo> see you, jcheney.
Daniel Garijo: see you, jcheney. ←
17:12:13 <Paolo_> guys I really have to go
Paolo Missier: guys I really have to go ←
17:12:22 <dgarijo> see you, paolo!
Daniel Garijo: see you, paolo! ←
17:12:40 <Paolo_> bye
Paolo Missier: bye ←
17:13:16 <Zakim> -??P28
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P28 ←
17:17:50 <tlebo> rrsagent, set log public rrsagent, draft minutes trackbot, end telcon
Timothy Lebo: rrsagent, set log public rrsagent, draft minutes trackbot, end telcon ←
17:17:50 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'set log public rrsagent, draft minutes trackbot, end telcon', tlebo. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'set log public rrsagent, draft minutes trackbot, end telcon', tlebo. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
17:18:01 <tlebo> rrsagent, set log public
Timothy Lebo: rrsagent, set log public ←
17:18:09 <tlebo> rrsagent, draft minutes
Timothy Lebo: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
17:18:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-minutes.html tlebo
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-minutes.html tlebo ←
17:18:18 <tlebo> trackbot, end telcon
Timothy Lebo: trackbot, end telcon ←
17:18:18 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
17:18:18 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Satya_Sahoo, +1.315.330.aaaa, stain, +44.238.059.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Satya_Sahoo, +1.315.330.aaaa, stain, +44.238.059.aabb ←
17:18:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
17:18:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/26-prov-minutes.html trackbot ←
17:18:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
17:18:20 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
Formatted by CommonScribe