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17:27:15 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc ←
17:28:40 <JeremyCarroll> Zakim, this is SW_OWL
Scribe problem: the name 'JeremyCarroll' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'JeremyCarroll' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown JeremyCarroll: Zakim, this is SW_OWL ←
17:28:40 <Zakim> JeremyCarroll, I see SW_OWL()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_OWL".
Zakim IRC Bot: JeremyCarroll, I see SW_OWL()12:00PM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be SW_OWL". ←
17:28:54 <JeremyCarroll> Zakim, this will be SW_OWL
Scribe problem: the name 'JeremyCarroll' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'JeremyCarroll' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown JeremyCarroll: Zakim, this will be SW_OWL ←
17:28:54 <Zakim> ok, JeremyCarroll; I see SW_OWL()12:00PM scheduled to start 28 minutes ago
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, JeremyCarroll; I see SW_OWL()12:00PM scheduled to start 28 minutes ago ←
17:29:30 <Zakim> SW_OWL()12:00PM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()12:00PM has now started ←
17:29:37 <Zakim> + +1.301.975.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.975.aaaa ←
17:30:38 <Zakim> +Alan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alan ←
17:30:56 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
17:31:02 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
17:31:03 <alanr> zakim, aaaa is Conrad
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, aaaa is Conrad ←
17:31:04 <Zakim> +Conrad; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Conrad; got it ←
17:31:06 <jjc> Zakim, ?P4 is me
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: Zakim, ?P4 is me ←
17:31:06 <Zakim> sorry, jjc, I do not recognize a party named '?P4'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jjc, I do not recognize a party named '?P4' ←
17:31:13 <jjc> Zakim, ??P4 is me
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: Zakim, ??P4 is me ←
17:31:13 <Zakim> +jjc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jjc; got it ←
17:31:25 <bijan> zakim, ??p5 is me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, ??p5 is me ←
17:31:25 <Zakim> +bijan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bijan; got it ←
17:31:31 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:31:31 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:31:34 <alanr> zakim, who is on the line
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is on the line ←
17:31:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the line', alanr
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the line', alanr ←
17:31:37 <bijan> can yu hear me now?
Bijan Parsia: can yu hear me now? ←
17:31:45 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:31:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted) ←
17:31:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see ew, jjc, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, JeremyCarroll, MartinD, CarstenLutz, ivan, bijan, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ew, jjc, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, JeremyCarroll, MartinD, CarstenLutz, ivan, bijan, trackbot-ng ←
17:31:51 <bijan> I'm testing muting
Bijan Parsia: I'm testing muting ←
17:31:57 <bijan> Excellent
Bijan Parsia: Excellent ←
17:32:07 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
17:32:09 <MartinD> zakim, ??p6 is me
Martin Dzbor: zakim, ??p6 is me ←
17:32:09 <Zakim> +MartinD; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MartinD; got it ←
17:33:26 <Zakim> +Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: +Evan_Wallace ←
17:33:53 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:33:53 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:34:46 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:34:46 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:35:44 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
17:35:53 <pfps> zakim, ??P8 is me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, ??P8 is me ←
17:35:53 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pfps; got it ←
17:35:57 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
17:35:57 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted ←
17:36:42 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:36:42 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:37:00 <jjc2> Thursday 15th
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Thursday 15th ←
17:37:00 <jjc2> Rome 18:30
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Rome 18:30 ←
17:37:00 <jjc2> London 17:30
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: London 17:30 ←
17:37:00 <jjc2> New York 12:30
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: New York 12:30 ←
17:37:00 <jjc2> Silicon Valley 09:30
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Silicon Valley 09:30 ←
17:37:01 <jjc2> Korea (fri) 02:30
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Korea (fri) 02:30 ←
17:38:20 <pfps> i'm here
Peter Patel-Schneider: i'm here ←
17:38:41 <pfps> well, sud tirol, technically italy
Peter Patel-Schneider: well, sud tirol, technically italy ←
17:38:44 <bijan> whine whine
Bijan Parsia: whine whine ←
17:38:48 <jjc2> difficuklt for Bijan, but will try
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: difficuklt for Bijan, but will try ←
17:38:50 <pfps> ditto
Peter Patel-Schneider: ditto ←
17:38:59 <pfps> dead silence :-)
Peter Patel-Schneider: dead silence :-) ←
17:39:00 <bijan> Oh, that was "difficult for alan" not bijan
Bijan Parsia: Oh, that was "difficult for alan" not bijan ←
17:39:05 <bijan> I'm not
Bijan Parsia: I'm not ←
17:39:15 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:39:15 <Zakim> bijan was not muted, bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan was not muted, bijan ←
17:39:28 <Zakim> +Elisa_Kendall
Zakim IRC Bot: +Elisa_Kendall ←
17:40:53 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
17:41:14 <jjc> Jeremy + Vipul happy to start on UCR
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: Jeremy + Vipul happy to start on UCR ←
17:41:22 <jjc> without blanque cheque for publication
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Unknown jjc: without blanque cheque for publication ←
17:41:34 <bijan> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Table_of_Examples
Bijan Parsia: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Table_of_Examples ←
17:41:41 <jjc> no objections heard
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Unknown jjc: no objections heard ←
17:41:51 <pfps> ok by me, but I'm not keen on the current format
Peter Patel-Schneider: ok by me, but I'm not keen on the current format ←
17:42:22 <pfps> what is the format for this doc? I'm assuming Features
Peter Patel-Schneider: what is the format for this doc? I'm assuming Features ←
17:42:29 <jjc2> item: what are the goals of UFD?
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Unknown item: what are the goals of UFD? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:42:42 <jjc2> Alan kicks off ...
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Unknown jjc2: Alan kicks off ... ←
17:43:00 <jjc2> Alan: I would like statements of what people agree about in documentation
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Alan Ruttenberg: I would like statements of what people agree about in documentation [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:43:28 <pfps> brevity is the soul of documents?
Peter Patel-Schneider: brevity is the soul of documents? ←
17:43:28 <jjc2> Alan: Bijan said documents that are likely to go stale might be not good
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Alan Ruttenberg: Bijan said documents that are likely to go stale might be not good [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:43:45 <jjc2> someone: disagreed with staleness crtiteria
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Unknown someone: disagreed with staleness crtiteria [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:43:57 <jjc2> documents may be useful in the short term and not have life term
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Unknown jjc2: documents may be useful in the short term and not have life term ←
17:44:10 <ew> Evan disagreed with staleness criteria
Evan Wallace: Evan disagreed with staleness criteria ←
17:44:18 <jjc2> Bijan: I care most about formal deliverables
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Bijan Parsia: I care most about formal deliverables [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:44:49 <jjc> Bijan: a table created by the WG may be useful into the future
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Bijan Parsia: a table created by the WG may be useful into the future [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:45:08 <jjc> old WebOnt OWL 1.0 pages are stale, e.g. which systems pass which tests
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Unknown jjc: old WebOnt OWL 1.0 pages are stale, e.g. which systems pass which tests ←
17:45:57 <jjc> evan: yes this material could move later
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Evan Wallace: yes this material could move later [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:46:19 <jjc> bijan and evan agree that they may or may not end up in WG document
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Unknown jjc: bijan and evan agree that they may or may not end up in WG document ←
17:48:02 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:48:12 <alanr> q+
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ ←
17:48:27 <jjc2> Bijan cares most about formal deliverables
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Unknown jjc2: Bijan cares most about formal deliverables ←
17:48:43 <jjc2> (aside on temrinology WG Submission or WG Note)
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Unknown jjc2: (aside on temrinology WG Submission or WG Note) ←
17:48:47 <bijan> hmm. it was called a note...maybe they changed it back: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-wsdl20-altschemalangs-20050817/
Bijan Parsia: hmm. it was called a note...maybe they changed it back: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-wsdl20-altschemalangs-20050817/ ←
17:49:00 <bijan> Wsdl had a lot of them: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-wsdl20-altschemalangs-20050817/
Bijan Parsia: Wsdl had a lot of them: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/NOTE-wsdl20-altschemalangs-20050817/ ←
17:49:11 <bijan> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
Bijan Parsia: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ ←
17:49:20 <Zakim> +Rinke
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rinke ←
17:49:42 <pfps> that's funny - I think that formal docs are the only way to determine how a language works
Peter Patel-Schneider: that's funny - I think that formal docs are the only way to determine how a language works ←
17:49:50 <Zakim> +Carsten
Zakim IRC Bot: +Carsten ←
17:49:53 <jjc> alan: some documents that people might read to learn about the technology produced by this WG
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Alan Ruttenberg: some documents that people might read to learn about the technology produced by this WG [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:50:11 <jjc> bijan: I don't like W3C producing tutorial stsyle material
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Bijan Parsia: I don't like W3C producing tutorial stsyle material [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:50:19 <CarstenLutz> zakim, mute me
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Unknown CarstenLutz: zakim, mute me ←
17:50:19 <Zakim> sorry, CarstenLutz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, CarstenLutz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
17:50:26 <jjc> because it detracts from the key mission of the WG
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Unknown jjc: because it detracts from the key mission of the WG ←
17:50:39 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:50:43 <alanr> ack alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr ←
17:50:56 <Carsten> zakim, mute me
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: zakim, mute me ←
17:50:56 <Zakim> Carsten should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Carsten should now be muted ←
17:50:56 <jjc> and because I produce my own tutorial style material, and I don't like helping the competition
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Unknown jjc: and because I produce my own tutorial style material, and I don't like helping the competition ←
17:51:09 <Carsten> Ivan, are you there?
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: Ivan, are you there? ←
17:51:22 <pfps> I think that Alan is making Bijan's point for him.
Peter Patel-Schneider: I think that Alan is making Bijan's point for him. ←
17:51:37 <jjc> alan: I've seen tutorials scattered over the Web, and I would like to see better materials at W3C, because that's where people go first
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Alan Ruttenberg: I've seen tutorials scattered over the Web, and I would like to see better materials at W3C, because that's where people go first [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:52:03 <jjc2> alan: have you seen evidence that W3C efforts stifle 3rd party work
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Alan Ruttenberg: have you seen evidence that W3C efforts stifle 3rd party work [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
17:52:27 <jjc2> q+ to put my case
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Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: q+ to put my case ←
17:52:34 <ivan> carsten, sorry, I just took a dinner
Ivan Herman: carsten, sorry, I just took a dinner ←
17:52:37 <ivan> but I am back
Ivan Herman: but I am back ←
17:52:38 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:52:39 <Rinke> zakim, mute me
Rinke Hoekstra: zakim, mute me ←
17:52:40 <Zakim> Rinke should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Rinke should now be muted ←
17:52:45 <ivan> and dialing in a minute
Ivan Herman: and dialing in a minute ←
17:53:08 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
17:53:08 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
17:53:09 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
17:54:18 <ew> I'm having trouble hearing most people
Evan Wallace: I'm having trouble hearing most people ←
17:54:28 <alanr> q+
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ ←
17:54:35 <alanr> q- alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: q- alanr ←
17:54:56 <alanr> q+ alanr to talk about people wanting cookbooks/examples of interesting forms
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ alanr to talk about people wanting cookbooks/examples of interesting forms ←
17:55:31 <Carsten> Ivan: now I was away, sorry; what I wanted to say: I am still not on the WG mailing list.
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Ivan Herman: now I was away, sorry; what I wanted to say: I am still not on the WG mailing list. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Carsten ] ←
17:55:32 <Carsten> Can you put me on?
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: Can you put me on? ←
17:55:34 <conrad> q+
Conrad Bock: q+ ←
17:55:52 <ew> q+
Evan Wallace: q+ ←
17:56:05 <alanr> ack jjc
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jjc ←
17:56:05 <Zakim> jjc, you wanted to put my case
Zakim IRC Bot: jjc, you wanted to put my case ←
17:56:09 <alanr> ack bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan ←
17:56:11 <ivan> carsten, unfortunately, Sandro has the control of the mailing list
Ivan Herman: carsten, unfortunately, Sandro has the control of the mailing list ←
17:56:11 <Ratnesh> Ratnesh from DERI Galway
Ratnesh Sahay: Ratnesh from DERI Galway ←
17:56:22 <jjc> jeremy: i think its good for all WG participants to be to do things in WG, such as taking the technical stuff
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Unknown jeremy: i think its good for all WG participants to be to do things in WG, such as taking the technical stuff [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
17:56:41 <ivan> could you send him a mail again? hopefully the bug he was referring to is gone
Ivan Herman: could you send him a mail again? hopefully the bug he was referring to is gone ←
17:56:51 <jjc> and making it more accessible
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Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: and making it more accessible ←
17:56:51 <Carsten> ivan; ok, then I'll remind him. Ian had already sent him a mail asking to add me, but I guess he overlooked it.
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: ivan; ok, then I'll remind him. Ian had already sent him a mail asking to add me, but I guess he overlooked it. ←
17:57:02 <Carsten> ivan, which bug?
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: ivan, which bug? ←
17:57:02 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
17:57:15 <bmotik> Zakim, ??p12 is bmotik
Boris Motik: Zakim, ??p12 is bmotik ←
17:57:15 <Zakim> +bmotik; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bmotik; got it ←
17:57:19 <bmotik> Zakim, mute me
Boris Motik: Zakim, mute me ←
17:57:19 <Zakim> bmotik should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bmotik should now be muted ←
17:57:26 <ivan> I think he said that there was a bug in the mailing list control, that is why he could not put you on the list
Ivan Herman: I think he said that there was a bug in the mailing list control, that is why he could not put you on the list ←
17:57:27 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
17:57:38 <Zakim> +Fabien
Zakim IRC Bot: +Fabien ←
17:57:41 <Carsten> ivan: ok, I missed that. Will remind him, thanks.
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Ivan Herman: ok, I missed that. Will remind him, thanks. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Carsten ] ←
17:57:59 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
17:58:08 <achille> yes
Achille Fokoue: yes ←
17:58:15 <jjc2> TIME please on UFDTF
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Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: TIME please on UFDTF ←
17:58:15 <conrad> User facing people on the WG have an advantage over those who aren't.
Conrad Bock: User facing people on the WG have an advantage over those who aren't. ←
17:58:16 <ivan> zakim, [IBM] is Achille
Ivan Herman: zakim, [IBM] is Achille ←
17:58:16 <Zakim> +Achille; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Achille; got it ←
17:58:26 <Zakim> +MikeSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeSmith ←
17:58:39 <Zakim> +??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17 ←
17:58:42 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
17:58:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ??P16,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ??P16, ←
17:58:45 <achille> ScribeNick: achille
(Scribe set to Achille Fokoue)
17:58:46 <Zakim> ... MikeSmith, ??P17
Zakim IRC Bot: ... MikeSmith, ??P17 ←
17:58:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, jjc, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, jjc, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan, ←
17:58:49 <Zakim> ... trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot-ng ←
17:58:54 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
17:59:00 <jjc2> (I appreciate Bijan's openness)
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: (I appreciate Bijan's openness) ←
17:59:01 <uli> zakim, ??p17 is me
Uli Sattler: zakim, ??p17 is me ←
17:59:01 <Zakim> +uli; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +uli; got it ←
17:59:29 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
17:59:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ??P16,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ??P16, ←
17:59:32 <Zakim> ... MikeSmith, uli, MarkusK
Zakim IRC Bot: ... MikeSmith, uli, MarkusK ←
17:59:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see IanH, achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, jjc, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see IanH, achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, jjc, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan, ←
17:59:36 <Zakim> ... trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot-ng ←
17:59:41 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:59:44 <alanr> ack alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr ←
17:59:45 <Zakim> alanr, you wanted to talk about people wanting cookbooks/examples of interesting forms
Zakim IRC Bot: alanr, you wanted to talk about people wanting cookbooks/examples of interesting forms ←
17:59:48 <alanr> ack conrad
Alan Ruttenberg: ack conrad ←
17:59:58 <ew> Bijan has already been blocking
Evan Wallace: Bijan has already been blocking ←
18:00:14 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
18:00:18 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
18:00:18 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
18:00:20 <Zakim> +IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: +IanH ←
18:00:31 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:00:31 <Zakim> pfps was already muted, pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps was already muted, pfps ←
18:00:34 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
18:00:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ←
18:00:37 <Zakim> ... ??P16, MikeSmith, uli, MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ??P16, MikeSmith, uli, MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH ←
18:00:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, jjc2, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, bijan, ←
18:00:41 <Zakim> ... trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot-ng ←
18:00:52 <bijan> I agree
Bijan Parsia: I agree ←
18:01:00 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:01:04 <alanr> ack ew
Alan Ruttenberg: ack ew ←
18:02:13 <ivan> zakim, ??P16 is Fabian
Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P16 is Fabian ←
18:02:13 <Zakim> +Fabian; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Fabian; got it ←
18:02:34 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
18:02:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ←
18:02:37 <Zakim> ... Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH ←
18:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see jjc2, zhe, jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jjc2, zhe, jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, ←
18:02:42 <Zakim> ... bijan, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: ... bijan, trackbot-ng ←
18:02:44 <bijan> Evan, I'm not saying I would block this work...or indeed any work. But a standards group involves negotiation. I've not heard a lot of negotitation.
Bijan Parsia: Evan, I'm not saying I would block this work...or indeed any work. But a standards group involves negotiation. I've not heard a lot of negotitation. ←
18:02:52 <Rinke> bernardo?
Rinke Hoekstra: bernardo? ←
18:02:59 <bernardo> zakim ??p21 is bernardo
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: zakim ??p21 is bernardo ←
18:03:18 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here? ←
18:03:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Conrad, Alan, jjc, bijan (muted), MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan, bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien, ←
18:03:21 <Zakim> ... Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH ←
18:03:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see jjc2, zhe, jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jjc2, zhe, jjc, IanH, achille, bernardo, MarkusK, MikeSmith_, Ratnesh, bmotik, uli, Rinke, Elisa, conrad, pfps, ew, alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, MartinD, Carsten, ivan, ←
18:03:25 <Zakim> ... bijan, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: ... bijan, trackbot-ng ←
18:03:26 <Ratnesh> P19 = Ratnesh
Ratnesh Sahay: P19 = Ratnesh ←
18:03:48 <Zakim> -Conrad
Zakim IRC Bot: -Conrad ←
18:03:51 <IanH> unmute me
Ian Horrocks: unmute me ←
18:03:51 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
18:03:51 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
18:03:57 <Zakim> +Zhe_Wu
Zakim IRC Bot: +Zhe_Wu ←
18:04:00 <achille> ScribeNick: achille
18:04:13 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
18:04:13 <Zakim> bijan was already muted, bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan was already muted, bijan ←
18:05:10 <IanH> My phone just went dead!
Ian Horrocks: My phone just went dead! ←
18:05:15 <alanr> i don't hear anyone
Alan Ruttenberg: i don't hear anyone ←
18:05:21 <IanH> Me neither
Ian Horrocks: Me neither ←
18:05:45 <IanH> unmute me
Ian Horrocks: unmute me ←
18:06:00 <uli> I could hear a child just now
Uli Sattler: I could hear a child just now ←
18:06:11 <IanH> unmute me
Ian Horrocks: unmute me ←
18:06:18 <IanH> I am!
Ian Horrocks: I am! ←
18:06:19 <jjc> Zakim, unmute IanH
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: Zakim, unmute IanH ←
18:06:19 <Zakim> IanH should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: IanH should no longer be muted ←
18:07:20 <achille> PROPOSED: Accept the previous minutes
PROPOSED: Accept the previous minutes ←
18:07:22 <Zakim> +Doug
Zakim IRC Bot: +Doug ←
18:07:52 <pfps> +1 to accept minutes
Peter Patel-Schneider: +1 to accept minutes ←
18:07:56 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
18:07:57 <achille> +1
+1 ←
18:08:02 <Rinke> +1
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 ←
18:08:03 <Ratnesh> +1
Ratnesh Sahay: +1 ←
18:08:11 <achille> RESOLVED: minutes accepted
RESOLVED: minutes accepted ←
18:08:51 <DougL> Zakim, who is on the phone
Doug Lenat: Zakim, who is on the phone ←
18:08:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', DougL
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', DougL ←
18:08:57 <pfps> NONONONON
Peter Patel-Schneider: NONONONON ←
18:09:01 <Rinke> except for the images
Rinke Hoekstra: except for the images ←
18:09:03 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, unmute me ←
18:09:03 <Zakim> pfps should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should no longer be muted ←
18:09:09 <achille> ACTION Send email reminding people to make wiki account
ACTION Send email reminding people to make wiki account ←
18:09:24 <achille> POSTPONE
POSTPONE ←
18:09:30 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:09:30 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted ←
18:09:55 <achille> ACTION Sandro: migration of documents
ACTION Sandro: migration of documents ←
18:09:56 <pfps> sandro sent out a message concerning where to put the images
Peter Patel-Schneider: sandro sent out a message concerning where to put the images ←
18:10:02 <achille> Postponed
Postponed ←
18:10:12 <pfps> there are *two* documents
Peter Patel-Schneider: there are *two* documents ←
18:10:13 <jjc> alan said avout reminder email that the naming conventions were unclear, and Sandro is clarifying
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc: alan said avout reminder email that the naming conventions were unclear, and Sandro is clarifying ←
18:10:26 <achille> ACTION 6: Done
18:10:39 <pfps> should the link to the duplicate page be removed?
Peter Patel-Schneider: should the link to the duplicate page be removed? ←
18:10:45 <ivan> Topic: Issues
18:11:30 <Rinke> +1 to removing the (link to the) duplicate page
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 to removing the (link to the) duplicate page ←
18:11:42 <achille> Topic : Issue 2
18:11:54 <pfps> both http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues and http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed tell how issues are processed
Peter Patel-Schneider: both http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues and http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed tell how issues are processed ←
18:11:58 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
18:11:58 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
18:12:04 <DougL> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Doug Lenat: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
18:12:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alan, jjc (muted), bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan (muted), bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Alan, jjc (muted), bijan, MartinD, Evan_Wallace, pfps (muted), Elisa_Kendall, Rinke (muted), Carsten (muted), Ivan (muted), bmotik (muted), Achille, Fabien ←
18:12:04 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, unmute me ←
18:12:07 <Zakim> ... (muted), Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH, Zhe_Wu, Doug
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), Fabian, MikeSmith, uli (muted), MarkusK (muted), ??P19, IanH, Zhe_Wu, Doug ←
18:12:09 <Zakim> pfps should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should no longer be muted ←
18:12:26 <Rinke> perhaps turn HowIssuesAreProcessed into a redirect to Issues
Rinke Hoekstra: perhaps turn HowIssuesAreProcessed into a redirect to Issues ←
18:12:41 <ew> +1 to Bijan's viewpoint on this
Evan Wallace: +1 to Bijan's viewpoint on this ←
18:12:50 <pfps> q+
18:12:52 <achille> ian: does new properties affect backward compatibility
Ian Horrocks: do new properties affect backward compatibility ←
18:13:08 <Ratnesh> P19 = Ratnesh
Ratnesh Sahay: P19 = Ratnesh ←
18:13:09 <achille> s/does/ do
18:13:21 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
18:13:21 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
18:13:35 <ew> Cardinality Q was also turned down
Evan Wallace: Cardinality Q was also turned down ←
18:13:46 <bijan> ooo, excellent point ew
Bijan Parsia: ooo, excellent point ew ←
18:14:02 <alanr> q+
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ ←
18:14:08 <alanr> ack pfps
Alan Ruttenberg: ack pfps ←
18:14:11 <jjc2> Zakim, ?P19 is Ratnesh
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Zakim, ?P19 is Ratnesh ←
18:14:11 <Zakim> sorry, jjc2, I do not recognize a party named '?P19'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jjc2, I do not recognize a party named '?P19' ←
18:14:20 <jjc2> Zakim, ??P19 is Ratnesh
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: Zakim, ??P19 is Ratnesh ←
18:14:20 <Zakim> +Ratnesh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ratnesh; got it ←
18:14:21 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:14:33 <bijan> Does peter actually object? Can't we just disagree with the old group?
Bijan Parsia: Does peter actually object? Can't we just disagree with the old group? ←
18:15:11 <Carsten> I disagree. There are usually *many* disjoint classes. Only ontology designers overlook that and
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Unknown Carsten: I disagree. There are usually *many* disjoint classes. Only ontology designers overlook that and ←
18:15:13 <Carsten> usually fail to state it.
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Unknown Carsten: usually fail to state it. ←
18:15:15 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:15:20 <IanH> ack
Ian Horrocks: ack ←
18:15:28 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:15:32 <bijan> I see peter's point...this is a owl full thing
Bijan Parsia: I see peter's point...this is a owl full thing ←
18:15:52 <pfps> many large disjointness sets (a disjointness set with thousands of elements)
Peter Patel-Schneider: many large disjointness sets (a disjointness set with thousands of elements) ←
18:15:58 <Zakim> +[IVML]
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18:16:04 <pfps> there can be lots of small disjointness sets
Peter Patel-Schneider: there can be lots of small disjointness sets ←
18:16:04 <IanH> How do I ack someone else?
Ian Horrocks: How do I ack someone else? ←
18:16:10 <achille> alanr : the assumption that there will not be a lot of disjoint is not correct
alanr : the assumption that there will not be a lot of disjoint is not correct ←
18:16:19 <ivan> ack alanr
Ivan Herman: ack alanr ←
18:16:21 <bijan> +1 to alan
Bijan Parsia: +1 to alan ←
18:16:24 <Carsten> peter: if you have thousands of classes, why not?
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Peter Patel-Schneider: if you have thousands of classes, why not? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Carsten ] ←
18:16:30 <pfps> if your disjointness sets are small then you don't get many extra triples
Peter Patel-Schneider: if your disjointness sets are small then you don't get many extra triples ←
18:16:31 <bijan> we get this request all the time
Bijan Parsia: we get this request all the time ←
18:16:37 <bijan> NO NO NO NO
Bijan Parsia: NO NO NO NO ←
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18:16:43 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:17:07 <ew> q+
Evan Wallace: q+ ←
18:17:12 <bmotik> It is not just the disjointness. In the functional spec, you can have equivalences between n classes, but in RDF you can have only pair-wise equivalences. This is inherited from OWL 1.0 RDF mapping.
Boris Motik: It is not just the disjointness. In the functional spec, you can have equivalences between n classes, but in RDF you can have only pair-wise equivalences. This is inherited from OWL 1.0 RDF mapping. ←
18:17:29 <bijan> zakim, mute me
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18:17:29 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
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18:17:30 <GiorgosStoilos> zakim, [IVML] is me
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18:17:31 <Zakim> +GiorgosStoilos; got it
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18:18:06 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:18:17 <pfps> but it is easy and direct to put a large equivalence set into RDF with no size increase
Peter Patel-Schneider: but it is easy and direct to put a large equivalence set into RDF with no size increase ←
18:18:22 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:18:27 <IanH> ack ew
Ian Horrocks: ack ew ←
18:18:55 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
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18:18:55 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
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18:19:05 <bmotik> The same thing also holds for properties (disjointness and equivalences). It is probably a good idea to come up with the same solution for all of these constructs, not just for disjointness.
Boris Motik: The same thing also holds for properties (disjointness and equivalences). It is probably a good idea to come up with the same solution for all of these constructs, not just for disjointness. ←
18:19:16 <bijan> +1 to bmotik
Bijan Parsia: +1 to bmotik ←
18:19:23 <jjc2> disagree with bmotik
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Unknown jjc2: disagree with bmotik ←
18:19:33 <bmotik> And there are also sameAs and differentFrom on individuals.
Boris Motik: And there are also sameAs and differentFrom on individuals. ←
18:19:33 <DougL> +p
Doug Lenat: +p ←
18:19:34 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:19:46 <DougL> +q
Doug Lenat: +q ←
18:19:55 <pfps> Alan's case seems to be quite compelling
Peter Patel-Schneider: Alan's case seems to be quite compelling ←
18:20:18 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:20:33 <achille> ianh: AllDisjoint does not necessary have a negative impact on implementations
Ian Horrocks: AllDisjoint does not necessary have a negative impact on implementations ←
18:20:40 <IanH> ?q
Ian Horrocks: ?q ←
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18:20:44 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
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18:21:17 <achille> who is speaking?
who is speaking? ←
18:21:35 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:21:35 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
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18:21:42 <DougL> that was me, achille
Doug Lenat: that was me, achille ←
18:21:50 <bmotik> OK, I'll just add this to the issue.
Boris Motik: OK, I'll just add this to the issue. ←
18:21:53 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:21:59 <pfps> i never had an objection, just a caution
Peter Patel-Schneider: i never had an objection, just a caution ←
18:21:59 <IanH> ?q
Ian Horrocks: ?q ←
18:22:00 <alanr> ack DougL
Alan Ruttenberg: ack DougL ←
18:22:09 <jjc> q+ on back chat
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Unknown jjc: q+ on back chat ←
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18:22:20 <jjc> q+ to mention back chat
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Unknown jjc: q+ to mention back chat ←
18:22:28 <pfps> zakim, mute me
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18:22:30 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:22:41 <jjc2> ack jjc
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Unknown jjc2: ack jjc ←
18:22:41 <Zakim> jjc, you wanted to mention back chat
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18:22:52 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
18:22:59 <pfps> ok by me
Peter Patel-Schneider: ok by me ←
18:23:02 <ew> +1
Evan Wallace: +1 ←
18:23:05 <DougL> sounds good to me
Doug Lenat: sounds good to me ←
18:23:05 <achille> ianh: should we make the change in the docs for AllDisjoint
Ian Horrocks: should we make the change in the docs for AllDisjoint ←
18:23:06 <jjc2> +1
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Unknown jjc2: +1 ←
18:23:08 <ivan> not against
Ivan Herman: not against ←
18:23:08 <achille> +1
+1 ←
18:23:11 <Rinke> +1
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 ←
18:23:14 <zhe> +1
18:23:14 <Carsten> +1
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Unknown Carsten: +1 ←
18:23:15 <FabianNeuhaus> +1
Fabian Neuhaus: +1 ←
18:23:15 <uli> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
18:23:23 <MikeSmith_> +1 for AllDisjoint
Michael Smith: +1 for AllDisjoint ←
18:23:30 <bijan> +1 for AllDisjoint
Bijan Parsia: +1 for AllDisjoint ←
18:23:46 <achille> RESOLVED: Issue 2 AllDisjoint will be added in the docs
RESOLVED: ISSUE-2 AllDisjoint will be added in the docs ←
18:24:10 <bijan> ?
Bijan Parsia: ? ←
18:24:13 <pfps> do it the same way that allDifferent is handled in OWL 1.0
Peter Patel-Schneider: do it the same way that allDifferent is handled in OWL 1.0 ←
18:24:16 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:24:41 <alanr> presume that the rdf mapping will be O(n)
Alan Ruttenberg: presume that the rdf mapping will be O(n) ←
18:24:44 <pfps> it is in the FS already, right?
Peter Patel-Schneider: it is in the FS already, right? ←
18:24:59 <bijan> pfps, no! it seems!
Bijan Parsia: pfps, no! it seems! ←
18:25:00 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:25:10 <bijan> ah it is
Bijan Parsia: ah it is ←
18:25:14 <bijan> disjointClasses
Bijan Parsia: disjointClasses ←
18:25:34 <bijan> Here: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Syntax#Class_or_Description_Axioms
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Unknown Here: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Syntax#Class_or_Description_Axioms [ Scribe Assist by Bijan Parsia ] ←
18:25:35 <pfps> how about: treat DisjointClasses like DifferentIndividuals?
Peter Patel-Schneider: how about: treat DisjointClasses like DifferentIndividuals? ←
18:25:36 <achille> RESOLVED: AllDisjoint will be added to the functional syntax and the RDF mapping
RESOLVED: AllDisjoint will be added to the functional syntax and the RDF mapping ←
18:25:48 <bijan> """The disjointClasses axiom takes a set of descriptions and states that all descriptions from the set are pair-wise disjoint."""
Bijan Parsia: """The disjointClasses axiom takes a set of descriptions and states that all descriptions from the set are pair-wise disjoint.""" ←
18:25:50 <bijan> It is in
Bijan Parsia: It is in ←
18:26:13 <alanr> RESOLVED: Issue 2 A O(n) rdf mapping of disjointClasses will be added
RESOLVED: ISSUE-2 A O(n) rdf mapping of disjointClasses will be added ←
18:26:36 <pfps> votes?
Peter Patel-Schneider: votes? ←
18:27:02 <pfps> we changed the resolution, so it is probably best to confirm the change
Peter Patel-Schneider: we changed the resolution, so it is probably best to confirm the change ←
18:27:08 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
18:27:16 <pfps> +1
18:27:16 <bijan> +1 for current resolution
Bijan Parsia: +1 for current resolution ←
18:27:17 <achille> +1
+1 ←
18:27:22 <DougL> +1
Doug Lenat: +1 ←
18:27:23 <Rinke> +1
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 ←
18:27:23 <MikeSmith_> +1 for current resolution
Michael Smith: +1 for current resolution ←
18:27:24 <Ratnesh> +1
Ratnesh Sahay: +1 ←
18:27:25 <MartinD> +1
Martin Dzbor: +1 ←
18:27:25 <ivan> zakim, draft minutes
Ivan Herman: zakim, draft minutes ←
18:27:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'draft minutes', ivan
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18:27:25 <uli> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
18:27:25 <jjc> +1
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Unknown jjc: +1 ←
18:27:26 <bernardo> +1
18:27:37 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
18:27:55 <bijan> it taeks an arbitrary number
Bijan Parsia: it taeks an arbitrary number ←
18:28:00 <bijan> disjointClasses:= 'DisjointClasses' '(' { annotation } description description { description } ')'
Bijan Parsia: disjointClasses:= 'DisjointClasses' '(' { annotation } description description { description } ')' ←
18:28:07 <bijan> Brackets!
Bijan Parsia: Brackets! ←
18:28:19 <achille> Topic: Issue 3 (anonymous individuals)
18:28:48 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:29:06 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
18:29:12 <alanr> Individual(type(owl:Thing)) legal in 1.0
Alan Ruttenberg: Individual(type(owl:Thing)) legal in 1.0 ←
18:29:40 <uli> but this doesn't help us to refer to it?
Uli Sattler: but this doesn't help us to refer to it? ←
18:29:47 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
18:29:47 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
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18:29:49 <Carsten> q+
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Unknown Carsten: q+ ←
18:29:51 <alanr> "overzealous"
Alan Ruttenberg: "overzealous" ←
18:29:58 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
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18:29:58 <Zakim> pfps should no longer be muted
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18:30:05 <jjc2> Jeremy: was the lack of this a bug? or deliberate?
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Unknown Jeremy: was the lack of this a bug? or deliberate? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
18:30:07 <achille> jeremy: no anonymous individual in owl 1.1. Is it a bug?
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Unknown jeremy: no anonymous individual in owl 1.1. Is it a bug? ←
18:30:25 <IanH> Q?
Ian Horrocks: Q? ←
18:30:28 <bmotik> Zakim, unmute me.
Boris Motik: Zakim, unmute me. ←
18:30:29 <achille> pfps: is a bug
Peter Patel-Schneider: is a bug ←
18:30:33 <Zakim> bmotik should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bmotik should no longer be muted ←
18:30:34 <bmotik> +q bmotik
Boris Motik: +q bmotik ←
18:30:37 <IanH> Q?
Ian Horrocks: Q? ←
18:30:45 <ivan> ack bijan
Ivan Herman: ack bijan ←
18:30:53 <alanr> tree-like
Alan Ruttenberg: tree-like ←
18:31:06 <IanH> Q?
Ian Horrocks: Q? ←
18:31:14 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:31:43 <alanr> also see http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/23
Alan Ruttenberg: also see http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/23 ←
18:32:00 <pfps> I would like to see a proposal
Peter Patel-Schneider: I would like to see a proposal ←
18:32:00 <Carsten> zakim, unmute me
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Unknown Carsten: zakim, unmute me ←
18:32:00 <Zakim> Carsten should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Carsten should no longer be muted ←
18:32:03 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
18:32:03 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
18:32:03 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:32:12 <IanH> ack carsten
Ian Horrocks: ack carsten ←
18:32:19 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:32:19 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted ←
18:32:34 <bijan> Ooo, interesting!
Bijan Parsia: Ooo, interesting! ←
18:33:10 <bernardo> we don't have the universal role in Owl 1.1
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: we don't have the universal role in Owl 1.1 ←
18:33:14 <achille> Carsten: related to having a universal property. should we consider adding universal property?
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Unknown Carsten: related to having a universal property. should we consider adding universal property? ←
18:33:26 <bernardo> but, it was included in SROIQ
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: but, it was included in SROIQ ←
18:33:48 <uli> which is why we mention this here
Uli Sattler: which is why we mention this here ←
18:33:54 <achille> Carsten: it will allow anonymous individuals
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Unknown Carsten: it will allow anonymous individuals ←
18:34:18 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:34:46 <Carsten> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Carsten: zakim, mute me ←
18:34:46 <Zakim> Carsten should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Carsten should now be muted ←
18:35:06 <Carsten> zakim, unmute me
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Unknown Carsten: zakim, unmute me ←
18:35:06 <Zakim> Carsten should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Carsten should no longer be muted ←
18:35:12 <jjc2> [I would like non-tree like stuff, as well as tree stuff, and this issue is only the first step but ...]
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Unknown jjc2: [I would like non-tree like stuff, as well as tree stuff, and this issue is only the first step but ...] ←
18:35:36 <Carsten> zakim, mute me
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Unknown Carsten: zakim, mute me ←
18:35:36 <Zakim> Carsten should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Carsten should now be muted ←
18:35:46 <achille> Carsten: Universal property is more general. It will make anonymous individuals a special case
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Unknown Carsten: Universal property is more general. It will make anonymous individuals a special case ←
18:35:49 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:35:58 <Carsten> correct
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Unknown Carsten: correct ←
18:35:59 <uli> yes
Uli Sattler: yes ←
18:36:38 <alanr> in above we are talking about "tree-like" networks of anonymous individuals
Alan Ruttenberg: in above we are talking about "tree-like" networks of anonymous individuals ←
18:36:43 <jjc> q+ to propose resolution Issue 3 is a bug report. Action pfps to fix
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Unknown jjc: q+ to propose resolution ISSUE-3 is a bug report. Action pfps to fix ←
18:36:58 <ivan> ack bmotik
Ivan Herman: ack bmotik ←
18:37:13 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:37:29 <achille> bmotik: arbitrary anonymous individuals could yield to undecideability
Boris Motik: arbitrary anonymous individuals could yield to undecideability ←
18:37:30 <bmotik> Zakim, mute me
Boris Motik: Zakim, mute me ←
18:37:30 <Zakim> bmotik should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bmotik should now be muted ←
18:37:45 <bijan> How about close this with tree ones and opening a new issue
Bijan Parsia: How about close this with tree ones and opening a new issue ←
18:37:46 <uli> but there aren't any anon. inds. in the owl1.1? Can you clarify, Boris?
Uli Sattler: but there aren't any anon. inds. in the owl1.1? Can you clarify, Boris? ←
18:38:00 <bmotik> To be more precise: nontree like anonymous individuals (in an ABox) easily make ontology entailment undecidable
Boris Motik: To be more precise: nontree like anonymous individuals (in an ABox) easily make ontology entailment undecidable ←
18:38:02 <alanr> Ian and I had a discussion about this a while ago concerning when we could distinguish skolems from bnodes
Alan Ruttenberg: Ian and I had a discussion about this a while ago concerning when we could distinguish skolems from bnodes ←
18:38:05 <ivan> ack jjc
Ivan Herman: ack jjc ←
18:38:05 <Zakim> jjc, you wanted to propose resolution Issue 3 is a bug report. Action pfps to fix
Zakim IRC Bot: jjc, you wanted to propose resolution ISSUE-3 is a bug report. Action pfps to fix ←
18:38:07 <alanr> I will look it up
Alan Ruttenberg: I will look it up ←
18:38:11 <jjc> jeremy bows to the chair
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Unknown jjc: jeremy bows to the chair ←
18:38:19 <alanr> negated property values 1 issue
Alan Ruttenberg: negated property values 1 issue ←
18:38:25 <bijan> Action to boris to start the discussion?
Bijan Parsia: Action to boris to start the discussion? ←
18:38:31 <bijan> Or someone?
Bijan Parsia: Or someone? ←
18:38:36 <achille> ianh: we will not be able to resolve it now
Ian Horrocks: we will not be able to resolve it now ←
18:38:47 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
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18:38:49 <achille> ianh: we should continue on emails
Ian Horrocks: we should continue on emails ←
18:38:51 <pfps> make sure the emails include ISSUE-3 or ISSUE-23
Peter Patel-Schneider: make sure the emails include ISSUE-3 or ISSUE-23 ←
18:39:07 <jjc2> +1 to bijan
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Unknown jjc2: +1 to bijan ←
18:39:14 <bijan> zakim, mute me
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18:39:15 <Carsten> I am not on the mailinglist
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Unknown Carsten: I am not on the mailinglist ←
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18:39:35 <Carsten> But working on it :)
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Unknown Carsten: But working on it :) ←
18:39:41 <jjc2> (neither am I, but can partifcipate nevertheless
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Unknown jjc2: (neither am I, but can partifcipate nevertheless ←
18:39:50 <bijan> zkaim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zkaim, mute me ←
18:40:05 <bijan> YEs!
Bijan Parsia: YEs! ←
18:40:09 <bmotik> Sire
Boris Motik: Sire ←
18:40:10 <bijan> +1 to boris starting it
Bijan Parsia: +1 to boris starting it ←
18:40:11 <bmotik> Sure
Boris Motik: Sure ←
18:40:26 <achille> ACTION Boris: send an email on issue 3
ACTION Boris: send an email on ISSUE-3 ←
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18:40:57 <achille> Topic : Issue 11 and 28 (datatype facets)
Topic : ISSUE-11 and 28 (datatype facets) ←
18:41:09 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:41:49 <bijan> Is this only for hte XML sytnax?
Bijan Parsia: Is this only for hte XML sytnax? ←
18:42:09 <bijan> If so, shouldn'tw e defer until we've decided about the XML sytnax?
Bijan Parsia: If so, shouldn'tw e defer until we've decided about the XML sytnax? ←
18:42:12 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
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18:42:12 <Zakim> bijan was not muted, bijan
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18:42:20 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:42:53 <ew> Its part of the structural spec
Evan Wallace: Its part of the structural spec ←
18:43:00 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:43:09 <bijan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007JanMar/0127.html
Bijan Parsia: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007JanMar/0127.html ←
18:43:22 <Rinke> zakim, mute me
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18:43:54 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
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18:43:54 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:43:55 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:43:57 <bijan> zakim, mute me
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18:43:57 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
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18:43:59 <bmotik> The reason why we have no several facts is rather arbitrary: we just didn't think of it. I believe we can easily extend the language to be more practicable.
Boris Motik: The reason why we have no several facts is rather arbitrary: we just didn't think of it. I believe we can easily extend the language to be more practicable. ←
18:44:04 <bijan> I don't undersatnd this issue ;)
Bijan Parsia: I don't undersatnd this issue ;) ←
18:44:31 <jjc2> Why can't we use user names in this syntax ?
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Unknown jjc2: Why can't we use user names in this syntax ? ←
18:44:35 <achille> pfps: I thought the issue was about the XML serialization
Peter Patel-Schneider: I thought the issue was about the XML serialization ←
18:44:45 <bijan> We could ask evren to come on
Bijan Parsia: We could ask evren to come on ←
18:44:48 <bijan> next week
Bijan Parsia: next week ←
18:44:49 <achille> ianh: let's move on since we do not understand it
Ian Horrocks: let's move on since we do not understand it ←
18:45:06 <bmotik> The XML schema is now different from what is reporeted in the issue. It was likely a bug that I just fixed later.
Boris Motik: The XML schema is now different from what is reporeted in the issue. It was likely a bug that I just fixed later. ←
18:45:17 <bmotik> I was talking about issue 11
Boris Motik: I was talking about ISSUE-11 ←
18:45:21 <bijan> They both go back to evren's email
Bijan Parsia: They both go back to evren's email ←
18:45:23 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:45:27 <bijan> Both 28 and 11
Bijan Parsia: Both 28 and 11 ←
18:45:30 <Zakim> -Alan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alan ←
18:45:48 <achille> ianh: Let's nominate someone to start an email discussion
Ian Horrocks: Let's nominate someone to start an email discussion ←
18:45:53 <bmotik> +q
Boris Motik: +q ←
18:46:00 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:46:02 <bmotik> Zakim, unmute me
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18:46:03 <ivan> ack bmotik
Ivan Herman: ack bmotik ←
18:46:30 <achille> bmotik: it is about having multiple facets.
Boris Motik: it is about having multiple facets. ←
18:46:38 <bijan> That sounds promising!
Bijan Parsia: That sounds promising! ←
18:46:56 <pfps> suggest sending a message to Evrin to ask him if he thinks 11 is resolved
Peter Patel-Schneider: suggest sending a message to Evrin to ask him if he thinks 11 is resolved ←
18:47:03 <jjc> move to email
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Unknown jjc: move to email ←
18:47:04 <achille> bmotik: we should add them it was a bug in the XML Schema
Boris Motik: we should add them it was a bug in the XML Schema ←
18:47:11 <Zakim> +Alan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alan ←
18:47:20 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:47:29 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
18:47:35 <achille> bmotik: no problem either for issue 28
Boris Motik: no problem either for ISSUE-28 ←
18:47:42 <bijan> close 11 and resolut 28 with action to liberalize the syntax
Bijan Parsia: close 11 and resolut 28 with action to liberalize the syntax ←
18:48:43 <achille> ACTION Boris: send an email about issue 11 fixed and how to fix issue 28
ACTION Boris: send an email about ISSUE-11 fixed and how to fix ISSUE-28 ←
18:49:35 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:49:42 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
18:49:53 <achille> Topic: Issue 13 and 14 (quotation and CURIES)
18:50:31 <ivan> see http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/28 notes
Ivan Herman: see http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/28 notes ←
18:50:35 <bijan> This relates to whether we can use the XML Schema syntax
Bijan Parsia: This relates to whether we can use the XML Schema syntax ←
18:50:37 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
18:50:37 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
18:50:42 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
18:51:00 <bmotik> I can stay
Boris Motik: I can stay ←
18:51:08 <jjc> (I would like to go on the hour)
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Unknown jjc: (I would like to go on the hour) ←
18:51:09 <bijan> q-
Bijan Parsia: q- ←
18:51:26 <achille> ianh: let's talk about the second f2f
Ian Horrocks: let's talk about the second f2f ←
18:51:32 <bijan> q+ to talk about first f2f
Bijan Parsia: q+ to talk about first f2f ←
18:51:33 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:51:34 <pfps> browser bombed
Peter Patel-Schneider: browser bombed ←
18:51:40 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, unmute me ←
18:51:40 <Zakim> pfps was not muted, pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps was not muted, pfps ←
18:51:47 <achille> Topic: second f2f
18:51:47 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:52:16 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:52:21 <jjc2> peter: thje second f2f seems a long way away but it's not - Jeremy wonders whether it's on the moon.
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Peter Patel-Schneider: thje second f2f seems a long way away but it's not - Jeremy wonders whether it's on the moon. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
18:52:33 <achille> pfps: collocate the 2nd f2f with OWLED
Peter Patel-Schneider: collocate the 2nd f2f with OWLED ←
18:52:55 <bijan> +1
Bijan Parsia: +1 ←
18:52:59 <Carsten> is OWLED collocated with any conference?
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Unknown Carsten: is OWLED collocated with any conference? ←
18:53:07 <bijan> Carsten, no
Bijan Parsia: Carsten, no ←
18:53:09 <jjc2> dates of OWLED again?
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Scribe problem: the name 'jjc2' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown jjc2: dates of OWLED again? ←
18:53:31 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:53:41 <jjc2> dates: 1-4 April 2 days
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Unknown dates: 1-4 April 2 days [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc2 ] ←
18:53:43 <achille> pfps: Proposed date 1,2,3 of April 2008
Peter Patel-Schneider: Proposed date 1,2,3 of April 2008 ←
18:53:49 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
18:53:49 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
18:53:50 <pfps> this is "interim" OWLED which will not be colocated
Peter Patel-Schneider: this is "interim" OWLED which will not be colocated ←
18:54:09 <bmotik> Zakim, mute me
Boris Motik: Zakim, mute me ←
18:54:09 <Zakim> bmotik should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bmotik should now be muted ←
18:54:29 <achille> ianh: online poll should be done
Ian Horrocks: online poll should be done ←
18:54:29 <achille> ianh: online poll should be done
Ian Horrocks: online poll should be done ←
18:54:45 <achille> pfps: any objections for the date?
Peter Patel-Schneider: any objections for the date? ←
18:54:51 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:54:54 <jjc> q+ to www2008
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Unknown jjc: q+ to www2008 ←
18:55:13 <bijan> Who would host?
Bijan Parsia: Who would host? ←
18:55:17 <ivan> for info: april 21-25 are the dates for WWW2008
Ivan Herman: for info: april 21-25 are the dates for WWW2008 ←
18:55:39 <uli> possibly
Uli Sattler: possibly ←
18:55:40 <ivan> i will be in china
Ivan Herman: i will be in china ←
18:55:41 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
18:55:42 <bernardo> possibly
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: possibly ←
18:55:42 <MarkusK> possibly
Markus Krötzsch: possibly ←
18:55:43 <Carsten> -1
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Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Carsten: -1 ←
18:55:45 <jjc> possibly
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Unknown jjc: possibly ←
18:55:46 <pfps> maybe me, but not too likely
Peter Patel-Schneider: maybe me, but not too likely ←
18:55:48 <bijan> possibly
Bijan Parsia: possibly ←
18:55:49 <FabianNeuhaus> -1
Fabian Neuhaus: -1 ←
18:55:49 <achille> -1
-1 ←
18:55:49 <GiorgosStoilos> possible
Giorgos Stoilos: possible ←
18:55:52 <Elisa> -1
Elisa Kendall: -1 ←
18:55:52 <ew> -1
Evan Wallace: -1 ←
18:56:00 <Ratnesh> maybe
Ratnesh Sahay: maybe ←
18:56:02 <Rinke> -1
Rinke Hoekstra: -1 ←
18:56:03 <MikeSmith_> -1 to www2008
Michael Smith: -1 to www2008 ←
18:56:04 <zhe> -1
18:56:13 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
18:56:31 <bijan> So, w3c would host?
Bijan Parsia: So, w3c would host? ←
18:56:39 <jjc> ivan: w3c china could help host
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Ivan Herman: w3c china could help host [ Scribe Assist by Unknown jjc ] ←
18:56:53 <bmotik> Where is the XML Schema stored in the working drafts? I see the XML Ser. document, but it has no pointer to the actual schema.
Boris Motik: Where is the XML Schema stored in the working drafts? I see the XML Ser. document, but it has no pointer to the actual schema. ←
18:57:20 <achille> ivan: would be happy to help with hosting it in China
Ivan Herman: would be happy to help with hosting it in China ←
18:58:07 <achille> ivan: if the group decides to do it in China, we can do it
Ivan Herman: if the group decides to do it in China, we can do it ←
18:58:30 <achille> pfps: we also need time to do publicity
Peter Patel-Schneider: we also need time to do publicity ←
18:59:38 <achille> ACTION pfps: send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED
ACTION pfps: send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED ←
18:59:38 <bijan> bmotik, I don't think they are there...I suppose you could upload it ot the wiki and attach it to the page
Bijan Parsia: bmotik, I don't think they are there...I suppose you could upload it ot the wiki and attach it to the page ←
19:00:02 <achille> sorry I send the action to pfps
sorry I send the action to pfps ←
19:00:06 <bmotik> bijan, how do I do that? I don't know much about Wikis...
Boris Motik: bijan, how do I do that? I don't know much about Wikis... ←
19:00:22 <achille> ivan, how do I change it to Ianh?
ivan, how do I change it to Ianh? ←
19:00:33 <ivan> good question:-)
Ivan Herman: good question:-) ←
19:00:49 <bijan> hmm. Not obvious to me, boris
Bijan Parsia: hmm. Not obvious to me, boris ←
19:00:51 <achille> ACTION ianh: send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED
ACTION ianh: send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED ←
19:01:03 <achille> sorry pfps
sorry pfps ←
19:01:12 <Rinke> the wiki needs to accept uploads of that type: it usually only accepts jpg's etc
Rinke Hoekstra: the wiki needs to accept uploads of that type: it usually only accepts jpg's etc ←
19:01:16 <bijan> Oh! look in teh sidebar
Bijan Parsia: Oh! look in teh sidebar ←
19:01:20 <bijan> There's an "upload file"
Bijan Parsia: There's an "upload file" ←
19:01:24 <achille> thanks pfps
thanks pfps ←
19:01:29 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
19:01:31 <Zakim> -jjc
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Zakim IRC Bot: -jjc ←
19:02:08 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Manchester_F2F f2f meeting page
Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Manchester_F2F f2f meeting page ←
19:02:13 <pfps> have Ian send out an email about this
Peter Patel-Schneider: have Ian send out an email about this ←
19:02:37 <achille> bijan: please add your name in http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Manchester_F2F f2f if you are coming to the first f2f
Bijan Parsia: please add your name in http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Manchester_F2F f2f if you are coming to the first f2f ←
19:02:55 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
19:02:55 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
19:03:00 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
19:03:09 <ivan> ack bijan
Ivan Herman: ack bijan ←
19:03:09 <achille> Topic: additional other business?
19:03:10 <bijan> q-
Bijan Parsia: q- ←
19:03:11 <Zakim> bijan, you wanted to talk about first f2f
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan, you wanted to talk about first f2f ←
19:03:13 <bijan> yes
Bijan Parsia: yes ←
19:03:17 <bijan> \I'm done
Bijan Parsia: \I'm done ←
19:03:26 <ivan> ack jjc
Ivan Herman: ack jjc ←
19:03:26 <Zakim> jjc, you wanted to www2008
Zakim IRC Bot: jjc, you wanted to www2008 ←
19:03:54 <pfps> yes
Peter Patel-Schneider: yes ←
19:03:59 <bijan> close as manya s possible
Bijan Parsia: close as manya s possible ←
19:04:06 <pfps> let's knock off the editorial ones
Peter Patel-Schneider: let's knock off the editorial ones ←
19:04:07 <ivan> for cca. 10-15 minutes
Ivan Herman: for cca. 10-15 minutes ←
19:04:34 <achille> Topic: Issue 13 and 14
19:04:41 <bmotik> I tried uploading the XML schema, but the system said that .xsd is not a supported extension
Boris Motik: I tried uploading the XML schema, but the system said that .xsd is not a supported extension ←
19:04:47 <Zakim> -Fabien
Zakim IRC Bot: -Fabien ←
19:04:59 <bijan> Ok, send an email to sandro
Bijan Parsia: Ok, send an email to sandro ←
19:05:12 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
19:05:22 <pfps> jeremy is probably the closest thing we have to an expert here
Peter Patel-Schneider: jeremy is probably the closest thing we have to an expert here ←
19:05:38 <bijan> I propose to reuse the Turtle string quoting conventions
Bijan Parsia: I propose to reuse the Turtle string quoting conventions ←
19:05:44 <pfps> which are?
Peter Patel-Schneider: which are? ←
19:05:44 <bijan> Common, comprehensive, easy to lift
Bijan Parsia: Common, comprehensive, easy to lift ←
19:06:09 <MarkusK> http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle/#sec-strings
Markus Krötzsch: http://www.dajobe.org/2004/01/turtle/#sec-strings ←
19:06:54 <bijan> I feel pretty sure that the Turtle spec covers everything RDF can handle
Bijan Parsia: I feel pretty sure that the Turtle spec covers everything RDF can handle ←
19:07:00 <pfps> these are roughly the same as RDF quoting
Peter Patel-Schneider: these are roughly the same as RDF quoting ←
19:07:01 <bijan> Wait! are we resolving on taht?
Bijan Parsia: Wait! are we resolving on taht? ←
19:07:07 <pfps> Yes, wait.
Peter Patel-Schneider: Yes, wait. ←
19:07:09 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
19:07:15 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
19:07:32 <bijan> Yes, alanr, curies can represent properites that rdf/xml cannot
Bijan Parsia: Yes, alanr, curies can represent properites that rdf/xml cannot ←
19:07:37 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
19:07:47 <alanr> so can abstract syntax
Alan Ruttenberg: so can abstract syntax ←
19:08:02 <bijan> So can turtle
Bijan Parsia: So can turtle ←
19:08:37 <pfps> pointer to rdfa?
Peter Patel-Schneider: pointer to rdfa? ←
19:08:45 <Zakim> -IanH
Zakim IRC Bot: -IanH ←
19:08:50 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
19:08:58 <Rinke> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
Rinke Hoekstra: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/ ←
19:09:10 <bijan> ack bijan
Bijan Parsia: ack bijan ←
19:09:11 <IanH> Sorry, but I have to run off
Ian Horrocks: Sorry, but I have to run off ←
19:09:20 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
19:09:20 <Zakim> bijan was not muted, bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan was not muted, bijan ←
19:10:12 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
19:10:19 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
19:10:58 <Rinke> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/
Rinke Hoekstra: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/ ←
19:11:43 <bijan> We'd need that for more arbitrary patterns of bnodes
Bijan Parsia: We'd need that for more arbitrary patterns of bnodes ←
19:11:51 <bijan> But that's delegated to email discussion
Bijan Parsia: But that's delegated to email discussion ←
19:13:04 <alanr> PROPOSED: Resolved issue 13 by adopting quotation from turtle (\). Resolve 14 by adopting SPARQL syntax for extended qnames.
PROPOSED: Resolved ISSUE-13 by adopting quotation from turtle (\). Resolve 14 by adopting SPARQL syntax for extended qnames. ←
19:13:09 <MarkusK> +1
Markus Krötzsch: +1 ←
19:13:10 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
19:13:11 <bijan> +1
Bijan Parsia: +1 ←
19:13:12 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
19:13:15 <Elisa> +1
Elisa Kendall: +1 ←
19:13:16 <Rinke> +1
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 ←
19:13:16 <MikeSmith_> +1 resolution for issue 13
Michael Smith: +1 resolution for ISSUE-13 ←
19:13:17 <uli> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
19:13:26 <MikeSmith_> +1 to resolution for issue 14
Michael Smith: +1 to resolution for ISSUE-14 ←
19:13:29 <GiorgosStoilos> +1
Giorgos Stoilos: +1 ←
19:13:31 <pfps> +1 on the straw poll, but I would like to take a look to finalize
Peter Patel-Schneider: +1 on the straw poll, but I would like to take a look to finalize ←
19:13:37 <Ratnesh> +1
Ratnesh Sahay: +1 ←
19:13:53 <MartinD> +1
Martin Dzbor: +1 ←
19:13:59 <pfps> I guess that we can invoke the one week rule if necessary
Peter Patel-Schneider: I guess that we can invoke the one week rule if necessary ←
19:14:03 <alanr> RESOLVED: Resolved issue 13 by adopting quotation from turtle (\). Resolve 14 by adopting SPARQL syntax for extended qnames. (with checkin one written into the spec)
RESOLVED: Resolved ISSUE-13 by adopting quotation from turtle (\). Resolve 14 by adopting SPARQL syntax for extended qnames. (with checkin one written into the spec) ←
19:14:48 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace ←
19:14:49 <bmotik> bye
Boris Motik: bye ←
19:14:50 <Zakim> -Doug
Zakim IRC Bot: -Doug ←
19:14:51 <Rinke> bye
Rinke Hoekstra: bye ←
19:14:51 <Zakim> -MikeSmith_
Zakim IRC Bot: -MikeSmith_ ←
19:14:52 <uli> bye
Uli Sattler: bye ←
19:14:52 <Zakim> -Zhe_Wu
Zakim IRC Bot: -Zhe_Wu ←
19:14:53 <Zakim> -Alan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alan ←
19:14:54 <Zakim> -Elisa_Kendall
Zakim IRC Bot: -Elisa_Kendall ←
19:14:54 <Zakim> -Ratnesh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ratnesh ←
19:14:55 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
19:14:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html ivan
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-minutes.html ivan ←
19:14:56 <Zakim> -bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan ←
19:14:56 <Ratnesh> bye
Ratnesh Sahay: bye ←
19:14:57 <Zakim> -bmotik
Zakim IRC Bot: -bmotik ←
19:14:57 <MarkusK> bye
Markus Krötzsch: bye ←
19:14:58 <Zakim> -pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: -pfps ←
19:14:59 <Zakim> -Rinke
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rinke ←
19:15:01 <Zakim> -Fabian
Zakim IRC Bot: -Fabian ←
19:15:02 <MikeSmith_> bye
Michael Smith: bye ←
19:15:03 <Zakim> -MarkusK
Zakim IRC Bot: -MarkusK ←
19:15:05 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
19:15:05 <achille> ivan, do I need to do something special as the scribe
ivan, do I need to do something special as the scribe ←
19:15:07 <Zakim> -Carsten
Scribe problem: the name 'Carsten' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Carsten ←
19:15:11 <Zakim> -MartinD
Zakim IRC Bot: -MartinD ←
19:15:17 <GiorgosStoilos> zakim, drop GiorgosStoilos
Giorgos Stoilos: zakim, drop GiorgosStoilos ←
19:15:17 <Zakim> GiorgosStoilos is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: GiorgosStoilos is being disconnected ←
19:15:18 <Zakim> -GiorgosStoilos
Zakim IRC Bot: -GiorgosStoilos ←
19:15:19 <Zakim> -Achille
Zakim IRC Bot: -Achille ←
19:15:27 <bernardo> Zakim, disconnect me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: Zakim, disconnect me ←
19:15:27 <Zakim> sorry, bernardo, I do not see a party named 'bernardo'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bernardo, I do not see a party named 'bernardo' ←
19:15:46 <bijan> bernardo, just hang up :)
Bijan Parsia: bernardo, just hang up :) ←
19:16:21 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, bye ←
19:16:30 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, set log public ←
19:16:35 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, bye ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-actions.rdf : ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sandro to migration of documents [1]
ACTION: Sandro to migration of documents [1] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-09-55
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-09-55 ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: 6 to Done [2]
ACTION: 6 to Done [2] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-10-26
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-10-26 ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Boris to send an email on issue 3 [3]
ACTION: Boris to send an email on ISSUE-3 [3] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-40-26
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-40-26 ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Boris to send an email about issue 11 fixed and how to fix issue 28 [4]
ACTION: Boris to send an email about ISSUE-11 fixed and how to fix ISSUE-28 [4] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-48-43
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-48-43 ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: pfps to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [5]
ACTION: pfps to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [5] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-59-38
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T18-59-38 ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ianh to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [6]
ACTION: ianh to send an email about your proposal collocated with OWLED [6] ←
19:16:35 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T19-00-51
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/07-owl-irc#T19-00-51 ←
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