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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 07 April 2014

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.04.07
Present
John Arwe, Ashok Malhotra, Sandro Hawke, Steve Speicher, Sergio Fernández, Cody Burleson, Miguel Aragón, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Arnaud Le Hors, Bart van Leeuwen, Ted Thibodeau
Regrets
Andrei Sambra
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Eric Prud'hommeaux
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes of March 31 approvedhttp://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31 link
Topics
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13:59:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:59:52 <trackbot> Date: 07 April 2014
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14:05:46 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting

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14:05:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:05:51 <trackbot> Date: 07 April 2014
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14:07:05 <MiguelAraCo> Zakim, MiguelAraCo is with codyburleson

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<ericP> scribe: ericP

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<ericP> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:08:19 <ericP> ->  http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31 last meeting minutes

-> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31 last meeting minutes

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14:09:20 <ericP> from last meeting: RESOLVED: clarify specification by adding that on POST the default context URI is the to-be-created resource's URI

from last meeting: RESOLVED: clarify specification by adding that on POST the default context URI is the to-be-created resource's URI

14:10:09 <ericP> PROPOSED: accept http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31 as  a record of the March 31 meeting

PROPOSED: accept http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31 as a record of the March 31 meeting

14:10:16 <ericP> Arnaud: 2nd

Arnaud Le Hors: 2nd

14:10:18 <ericP> RESOLVED: Minutes of March 31 approvedhttp://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31

RESOLVED: Minutes of March 31 approvedhttp://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-31

14:11:48 <ericP> topic: Tracking of actions & issues

2. Tracking of actions & issues

<ericP> Arnaud: i have forwarded the comments to the comments list

Arnaud Le Hors: i have forwarded the comments to the comments list

<ericP> ... i don't know that any need to be tracked as issues

... i don't know that any need to be tracked as issues

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14:12:07 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?

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14:12:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, SteveS, sergio, codyburleson, ericP, Arnaud, BartvanLeeuwen, TallTed (muted)

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14:13:08 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp.html

http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp.html

14:13:39 <ericP> chair: arnaud
<ericP> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.04.07
14:16:12 <ericP> topic: F2F5 Boston

3. F2F5 Boston

14:14:00 <ericP> Arnaud: now that we're done with the main spec, we want folks to make progress on the Primer, etc.

Arnaud Le Hors: now that we're done with the main spec, we want folks to make progress on the Primer, etc.

14:14:14 <ericP> ideally, by next week's F2F, we'll have updated drafts

ideally, by next week's F2F, we'll have updated drafts

14:14:44 <JohnArwe> regrets: andrei
14:14:44 <ericP> Arnaud: we'll be able to work during the F2F

Arnaud Le Hors: we'll be able to work during the F2F

14:15:01 <ericP> ... you either need to have a doc to present or say what's stopping you

... you either need to have a doc to present or say what's stopping you

14:16:32 <ericP> Arnaud: i put together an agenda that leaves time for us to respond to comments

Arnaud Le Hors: i put together an agenda that leaves time for us to respond to comments

14:16:59 <ericP> ... we appear to have good consensus but we need to formalize so we can present to Director when we move to CR

... we appear to have good consensus but we need to formalize so we can present to Director when we move to CR

14:17:08 <ericP> ... i left time for the patch format

... i left time for the patch format

14:17:49 <ericP> ... now that we have most of the LDP spec issues behind us, maybe we can make progress on PATCH (which we all agree we need)

... now that we have most of the LDP spec issues behind us, maybe we can make progress on PATCH (which we all agree we need)

14:18:16 <ericP> ... it may be too late to put it into the spec, but at least we can put it in the best practices and guidelines doc

... it may be too late to put it into the spec, but at least we can put it in the best practices and guidelines doc

14:18:30 <ericP> ... i allocated time for interop testing

... i allocated time for interop testing

14:19:18 <ericP> ... test suite is still in the works, but exiting CR requires us to have finished and gotten results

... test suite is still in the works, but exiting CR requires us to have finished and gotten results

14:19:45 <ericP> ... i don't know what we'll be able to do on creating tests.

... i don't know what we'll be able to do on creating tests.

14:20:33 <ericP> SteveS: i plan to have the beginning of an executable test suite on a vanilla server.

Steve Speicher: i plan to have the beginning of an executable test suite on a vanilla server.

14:21:00 <ericP> Arnaud: if others have vanilla servers, it would be good if we could play with them during the F2F

Arnaud Le Hors: if others have vanilla servers, it would be good if we could play with them during the F2F

14:21:12 <ericP> ... maybe writing tests on the spot

... maybe writing tests on the spot

14:21:24 <sergio> q?

Sergio Fernández: q?

14:21:47 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

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14:22:16 <ericP> ... i'm willing to accommodate timing requests from those attending remotely

... i'm willing to accommodate timing requests from those attending remotely

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14:23:30 <ericP> sergio: i will try to be on line, maybe provide an online server

Sergio Fernández: i will try to be on line, maybe provide an online server

14:23:58 <ericP> Arnaud: maybe we can time using it when when you'll be around

Arnaud Le Hors: maybe we can time using it when when you'll be around

14:24:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

14:24:17 <ericP> ack next

ack next

14:24:18 <Arnaud> ack bart

Arnaud Le Hors: ack bart

14:24:36 <TallTed> world-clock links are helpful

Ted Thibodeau: world-clock links are helpful

14:24:45 <TallTed> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Ted Thibodeau: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

14:24:58 <ericP> BartvanLeeuwen: can you add your nice timezone link from the agenda?

Bart van Leeuwen: can you add your nice timezone link from the agenda?

14:25:21 <ericP> Arnaud: sure (that's 9+6 is 3pm)

Arnaud Le Hors: sure (that's 9+6 is 3pm)

14:25:22 <ericP> topic: LDP spec

4. LDP spec

14:25:33 <sergio> q+

Sergio Fernández: q+

14:25:51 <Arnaud> ack sergio

Arnaud Le Hors: ack sergio

14:26:22 <ericP> Arnaud: sergio reminded us of a cracks about a conflict between rel=meta and rel=describedBy

Arnaud Le Hors: sergio reminded us of a cracks about a conflict between rel=meta and rel=describedBy

14:26:55 <ericP> sergio: [pointing to ldp 4.2.1.6]

Sergio Fernández: [pointing to ldp 4.2.1.6]

14:27:07 <sergio> http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp/#h5_ldpr-gen-pubclireqs

Sergio Fernández: http://www.w3.org/TR/ldp/#h5_ldpr-gen-pubclireqs

14:27:13 <ericP> Arnaud: we're using the same name for two different types of relationships

Arnaud Le Hors: we're using the same name for two different types of relationships

14:27:44 <ericP> ... we don't have to solve it now.

... we don't have to solve it now.

14:28:14 <ericP> ... re Null Relative URI, consensus seems to be to stick with the spec

... re Null Relative URI, consensus seems to be to stick with the spec

14:28:44 <ericP> ... there was an email talking about relative graphs but we don't know if it will satisfy Reto

... there was an email talking about relative graphs but we don't know if it will satisfy Reto

14:29:12 <ericP> sandro: maybe define relative graphs in a WG Note?

Sandro Hawke: maybe define relative graphs in a WG Note?

14:29:14 <sergio> q+

Sergio Fernández: q+

14:29:33 <ericP> ... email suggests that we ask RDF WG but they're done

... email suggests that we ask RDF WG but they're done

14:29:47 <ericP> ... if we write it in a Note, it can be picked up by another WG.

... if we write it in a Note, it can be picked up by another WG.

14:29:53 <Arnaud> ack sergio

Arnaud Le Hors: ack sergio

14:31:02 <ericP> sergio: in my opinion, we're not deviating from the RDF standard, but maybe we should describe it in further detail

Sergio Fernández: in my opinion, we're not deviating from the RDF standard, but maybe we should describe it in further detail

14:31:09 <ericP> ... beyond that, i don't see an issue

... beyond that, i don't see an issue

14:31:17 <ericP> Arnaud: different options:

Arnaud Le Hors: different options:

14:31:44 <ericP> ... .. do nothing -- rely on Turtle and folks have to stick to the serializations which work

... .. do nothing -- rely on Turtle and folks have to stick to the serializations which work

14:31:45 <sergio> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-rdf11-concepts-20140225/#h3_rdf-documents <-- what I was quoting

Sergio Fernández: http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-rdf11-concepts-20140225/#h3_rdf-documents <-- what I was quoting

14:32:01 <ericP> ... .. add a bit about it in the ldp spec

... .. add a bit about it in the ldp spec

14:32:01 <sergio> "A concrete RDF syntax may offer many different ways to encode the same RDF graph or RDF dataset, for example through the use of namespace prefixes, relative IRIs, blank node identifiers, and different ordering of statements. While these aspects can have great effect on the convenience of working with the RDF document, they are not significant for its meaning."

Sergio Fernández: "A concrete RDF syntax may offer many different ways to encode the same RDF graph or RDF dataset, for example through the use of namespace prefixes, relative IRIs, blank node identifiers, and different ordering of statements. While these aspects can have great effect on the convenience of working with the RDF document, they are not significant for its meaning."

14:32:20 <ericP> ... .. create a separate Note (per Sandro's suggestion)

... .. create a separate Note (per Sandro's suggestion)

14:32:34 <ericP> sandro: ask the commenter which they prefer?

Sandro Hawke: ask the commenter which they prefer?

14:33:00 <ericP> SteveS: there's a bit diff between the amount of WG work

Steve Speicher: there's a bit diff between the amount of WG work

14:33:18 <ericP> sandro: ask them. it doesn't have to come from the WG

Sandro Hawke: ask them. it doesn't have to come from the WG

14:33:34 <ericP> Arnaud: the commenter doesn't want us to do this at all.

Arnaud Le Hors: the commenter doesn't want us to do this at all.

14:33:50 <SteveS> q+

Steve Speicher: q+

14:33:55 <ericP> sandro: there aren't any alternatives that really work

Sandro Hawke: there aren't any alternatives that really work

14:34:12 <Arnaud> ack Steves

Arnaud Le Hors: ack Steves

14:34:21 <ericP> Arnaud: pierre antoine finds our current approach reasonable

Arnaud Le Hors: pierre antoine finds our current approach reasonable

14:34:23 <betehess> FYI, from JSON-LD spec: [[  In JSON-LD all relative IRIs are resolved relative to the base IRI. ]]

Alexandre Bertails: FYI, from JSON-LD spec: [[ In JSON-LD all relative IRIs are resolved relative to the base IRI. ]]

14:34:58 <ericP> SteveS: can we just let the server say whether it accepts the problem requests

Steve Speicher: can we just let the server say whether it accepts the problem requests

14:35:18 <ericP> sandro: i think the comment is about the architecture

Sandro Hawke: i think the comment is about the architecture

14:35:34 <ericP> ... but he seemed to think that if we defined relative graphs, that it would be ok

... but he seemed to think that if we defined relative graphs, that it would be ok

14:35:58 <betehess> [[ JSON-LD allows IRIs to be specified in a relative form which is resolved against the document base according section 5.1 Establishing a Base URI of [RFC3986]. The base IRI may be explicitly set with a context using the @base keyword. ]]

Alexandre Bertails: [[ JSON-LD allows IRIs to be specified in a relative form which is resolved against the document base according section 5.1 Establishing a Base URI of [RFC3986]. The base IRI may be explicitly set with a context using the @base keyword. ]]

14:36:32 <betehess> because we are extending the media-type using rel=type, I think there is no problem whatsoever

Alexandre Bertails: because we are extending the media-type using rel=type, I think there is no problem whatsoever

14:37:23 <betehess> so the relative uris thing could just be triggered by the rel=type and defined in LDP without asking the RDF guys to step in

Alexandre Bertails: so the relative uris thing could just be triggered by the rel=type and defined in LDP without asking the RDF guys to step in

14:37:24 <ericP> Arnaud: cygri is content with the spec today

Arnaud Le Hors: cygri is content with the spec today

14:37:52 <ericP> ... most people agree, e.g. david wood agreed

... most people agree, e.g. david wood agreed

14:38:11 <ericP> sandro, shall we try a one-sentence change about relative graphs?

sandro, shall we try a one-sentence change about relative graphs?

14:38:16 <Ashok> q+

Ashok Malhotra: q+

14:39:52 <Arnaud> ack Ashok

Arnaud Le Hors: ack Ashok

14:40:50 <ericP> ericP: i think the issue is that you don't have the base URL at the time you parse the doc and figure out what to do with it, e.g. what will be the created resource, ergo base URL for the original parsing

Eric Prud'hommeaux: i think the issue is that you don't have the base URL at the time you parse the doc and figure out what to do with it, e.g. what will be the created resource, ergo base URL for the original parsing

14:41:24 <ericP> Ashok: kingsly is asking if we can base LDP on something else with relative RDF graphs

Ashok Malhotra: Richard is asking if we can base LDP on something else with relative RDF graphs

14:41:59 <Ashok> s/kingsly/Richard/
14:43:04 <Arnaud> I think I got cut off

Arnaud Le Hors: I think I got cut off

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14:45:25 <sergio> q+

Sergio Fernández: q+

14:45:45 <Arnaud> ack sergio

Arnaud Le Hors: ack sergio

14:46:10 <ericP> sergio: first phase, decide the name of the created resource

Sergio Fernández: first phase, decide the name of the created resource

14:46:48 <ericP> topic: Paging spec

5. Paging spec

14:47:54 <ericP> Arnaud: two weeks ago, Sandro proposed stable paging

Arnaud Le Hors: two weeks ago, Sandro proposed stable paging

14:48:29 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

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14:48:29 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

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14:48:39 <ericP> ... TallTed said that we're conflating to things; we should follow the database community which has looked at this hard

... TallTed said that we're conflating to things; we should follow the database community which has looked at this hard

14:49:02 <ericP> sandro: i recall disposing of TallTed's issues in my last email

Sandro Hawke: i recall disposing of TallTed's issues in my last email

14:49:09 <ericP> TallTed: i disagree.

Ted Thibodeau: i disagree.

14:49:23 <ericP> ... we're at the early stages of DB development in LDP.

... we're at the early stages of DB development in LDP.

14:49:38 <ericP> ... by ignoring this stuff, we're doing everyone a disservice

... by ignoring this stuff, we're doing everyone a disservice

14:49:59 <ericP> ... i propose self-education, and not conflating

... i propose self-education, and not conflating

14:50:26 <ericP> ... we're not talking locking, etc.

... we're not talking locking, etc.

14:51:01 <ericP> ... with multiple clients talking to the same service, it's like MS Access 1.0 on a shared file

... with multiple clients talking to the same service, it's like MS Access 1.0 on a shared file

14:52:32 <ericP> ericP: is there someone who can look at our stuff and fine current and future screw cases, as well as actions to mitigate risk?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: is there someone who can look at our stuff and fine current and future screw cases, as well as actions to mitigate risk?

14:53:38 <ericP> sandro: i'm happy to get reviews, but i'm reluctant to use DB experts' language 'cause we may be inaccurate and confusing

Sandro Hawke: i'm happy to get reviews, but i'm reluctant to use DB experts' language 'cause we may be inaccurate and confusing

14:54:25 <ericP> Ashok: i can work on this and we can talk about this at the F2F

Ashok Malhotra: i can work on this and we can talk about this at the F2F

14:54:59 <ericP> sandro: most importantly, point out unexpeted characteristics in our design, unexpected to us or users

Sandro Hawke: most importantly, point out unexpeted characteristics in our design, unexpected to us or users

14:55:13 <sandro> sandro: most useful thing: point out any unexpected consequences of the design  (the design being my proposal for paging)

Sandro Hawke: most useful thing: point out any unexpected consequences of the design (the design being my proposal for paging) [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:55:19 <ericP> topic: Test suite

6. Test suite

14:55:36 <sergio> q+

Sergio Fernández: q+

14:55:48 <ericP> Arnaud: raul has been working on RDFa-ifying the test suite

Arnaud Le Hors: raul has been working on RDFa-ifying the test suite

14:55:53 <Arnaud> ack sergio

Arnaud Le Hors: ack sergio

14:55:57 <ericP> ... others have said that's a hard way to go

... others have said that's a hard way to go

14:57:08 <ericP> sergio: the problem is not getting the data from the HTML, but it's considered a modification (license issue) to transform to Turtle

Sergio Fernández: the problem is not getting the data from the HTML, but it's considered a modification (license issue) to transform to Turtle

14:57:28 <ericP> Arnaud: copyright doesn't allow you to transform the doc

Arnaud Le Hors: copyright doesn't allow you to transform the doc

14:57:38 <ericP> ... would like the team contacts to work this out

... would like the team contacts to work this out

14:59:30 <ericP> ericP: so if someone runs any23 > test.ttl, they transform?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: so if someone runs any23 > test.ttl, they transform?

14:59:40 <ericP> Arnaud: correct, you don't have the right to create that file

Arnaud Le Hors: correct, you don't have the right to create that file

14:59:45 <ericP> topic: 209

7. 209

15:00:09 <ericP> Arnaud: TAG apparently supportive of 209

Arnaud Le Hors: TAG apparently supportive of 209

15:00:15 <ericP> ... Jenni already looking to use it

... Jenni already looking to use it

15:00:19 <ericP> q+

q+

15:00:31 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:00:43 <Arnaud> ack ericP

Arnaud Le Hors: ack ericP

15:01:49 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

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15:02:49 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx bye

Bart van Leeuwen: thx bye

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15:03:01 <Zakim> -Arnaud

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15:03:01 <Zakim> -Sandro

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15:03:06 <Zakim> -JohnArwe

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15:03:08 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

15:03:08 <Zakim> Attendees were JohnArwe, +43.660.274.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, SteveS, sergio, codyburleson, MiguelAraCo, ericP, +82.23.45.2.aacc, Arnaud, BartvanLeeuwen, TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were JohnArwe, +43.660.274.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, SteveS, sergio, codyburleson, MiguelAraCo, ericP, +82.23.45.2.aacc, Arnaud, BartvanLeeuwen, TallTed

<ericp> present: JohnArwe, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, SteveS, sergio, codyburleson, MiguelAraCo, ericP, Arnaud, BartvanLeeuwen, TallTed
15:06:23 <SteveS> sergio, I guess we didn’t get into details on test suite and sharing of source (or collaboration in general)

Steve Speicher: sergio, I guess we didn’t get into details on test suite and sharing of source (or collaboration in general)

15:06:35 <SteveS> …just reading your email

Steve Speicher: …just reading your email



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