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13:52:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:52:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←
13:52:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes ←
13:52:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:52:03 <trackbot> Date: 30 September 2013
13:52:06 <Arnaud> Arnaud has changed the topic to: LDP WG: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp - Today's agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.09.30
Arnaud Le Hors: Arnaud has changed the topic to: LDP WG: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp - Today's agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.09.30 ←
13:59:08 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
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13:59:14 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
13:59:26 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p7 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p7 is me ←
13:59:26 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:00:50 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
14:01:05 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve_Speicher ←
14:01:16 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra ←
14:01:19 <SteveS> Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me
Steve Speicher: Zakim, Steve_Speicher is me ←
14:01:19 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:01:27 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:01:36 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[OpenLink] ←
14:01:47 <TallTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me ←
14:01:47 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
14:01:49 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:01:49 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
14:03:28 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, Arnaud, SteveS, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, TallTed (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, Arnaud, SteveS, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, TallTed (muted) ←
14:03:36 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
14:04:01 <JohnArwe> regrets: steve battle, cody, pierre-antoine
14:04:08 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.573.aaaa ←
14:05:46 <BartvanLeeuwen> that the problem :-/
Bart van Leeuwen: that the problem :-/ ←
14:06:44 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
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14:07:22 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
14:07:55 <JohnArwe> zakim, ??P7 is bart
John Arwe: zakim, ??P7 is bart ←
14:07:55 <Zakim> +bart; got it
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14:08:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> scribe: BartvanLeeuwen
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<BartvanLeeuwen> chair: Arnaud
<BartvanLeeuwen> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.09.30
<BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Admin
14:09:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> subTopic: Minutes of September 23
<BartvanLeeuwen> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-09-23
http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-09-23 ←
14:09:14 <BartvanLeeuwen> Resolved: Minutes of September 23 approved
RESOLVED: Minutes of September 23 approved ←
<BartvanLeeuwen> subtopic: Next meeting
<BartvanLeeuwen> October 7
October 7 ←
14:09:28 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Actions and issues
<BartvanLeeuwen> no updates
no updates ←
14:12:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Proposal: normative changes for profiles
14:12:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html ←
14:18:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: Sandro, I'd like to know whether the proposed changes to the spec were communicated to Tim after the last F2F and what is reaction was
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Arnaud Le Hors: Sandro, I'd like to know whether the proposed changes to the spec were communicated to Tim after the last F2F and what is reaction was ←
14:19:16 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: I'd like to know before we go to LC
Arnaud Le Hors: I'd like to know before we go to LC ←
14:19:18 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:19:18 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
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14:20:11 <Ashok_> q+
Ashok Malhotra: q+ ←
14:20:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: Tim still wants to have full freedom on the triples placed in the LDPR e.g. last-modified
Sandro Hawke: Tim still wants to have full freedom on the triples placed in the LDPR e.g. last-modified ←
14:20:58 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
14:21:36 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:21:36 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
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14:24:24 <Zakim> +??P27
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14:24:50 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: I suggest we create an email with the questions we have for Tim, that sandro can take to Tim, and maybe allocate some time with him to go over it
Arnaud Le Hors: I suggest we create an email with the questions we have for Tim, that sandro can take to Tim, and maybe allocate some time with him to go over it ←
14:24:55 <krp> zakim, ??P27 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P27 is me ←
14:24:55 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
14:25:13 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: I have a meeting with Tim at 4PM EST
Sandro Hawke: I have a meeting with Tim at 4PM EDT ←
14:25:15 <JohnArwe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-comments/2013Sep/0003.html
John Arwe: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-comments/2013Sep/0003.html ←
14:29:32 <TallTed> s/EST/EDT/
14:31:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> general discussion about mixing data and metadata, should the server force some metadata predicates like file system metadata
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general discussion about mixing data and metadata, should the server force some metadata predicates like file system metadata ←
14:33:17 <JohnArwe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html
John Arwe: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html ←
14:36:04 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:36:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, SteveS, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, TallTed (muted), JohnArwe, +44.208.573.aaaa, bart, krp
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, SteveS, Ashok_Malhotra, Sandro, TallTed (muted), JohnArwe, +44.208.573.aaaa, bart, krp ←
14:36:50 <Arnaud> zakim, aaaa is roger
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, aaaa is roger ←
14:36:50 <Zakim> +roger; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +roger; got it ←
14:38:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
q+ ←
14:40:13 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-mobile
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, please dial ericP-mobile ←
14:40:13 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ericP; the call is being made ←
14:40:15 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
14:41:08 <JohnArwe> wrt Ashok/Roger comments: possibly could add more words on 4.2.9; generically the interpretation of SHOULD is per 2119, which is to be read (paraphrasing) "do this unless you have a Really Good reason to not do it, and Fully Understand the implications".
John Arwe: wrt Ashok/Roger comments: possibly could add more words on 4.2.9; generically the interpretation of SHOULD is per 2119, which is to be read (paraphrasing) "do this unless you have a Really Good reason to not do it, and Fully Understand the implications". ←
14:41:29 <roger> vanilla = client-directed. chocolate = server-directed.
Roger Menday: vanilla = client-directed. chocolate = server-directed. ←
14:41:35 <JohnArwe> correct
14:41:42 <roger> I know !!
Roger Menday: I know !! ←
14:41:46 <roger> :)
Roger Menday: :) ←
14:42:00 <JohnArwe> issue-81?
14:42:00 <trackbot> issue-81 -- Confusing membership* predicate names and other possible improvements -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-81 -- Confusing membership* predicate names and other possible improvements -- open ←
14:42:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/81
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/81 ←
14:42:22 <JohnArwe> as of this morning, see steve S's email, there is a wiki page for flogging the names
John Arwe: as of this morning, see steve S's email, there is a wiki page for flogging the names ←
14:46:45 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: people need to go over the email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html and react to it point by point
Arnaud Le Hors: people need to go over the email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0067.html and react to it point by point ←
14:47:29 <BartvanLeeuwen> ... have the detailed discussions on the list
... have the detailed discussions on the list ←
<BartvanLeeuwen> ... so that we can spend the teleconf on clarifying issues and making decisions
... so that we can spend the teleconf on clarifying issues and making decisions ←
14:47:29 <JohnArwe> @ericp: since you missed previous email on -97, I responded to your response about an hour ago
John Arwe: @ericp: since you missed previous email on -97, I responded to your response about an hour ago ←
14:47:57 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Proposals for pure-HTTP paging
14:58:04 <ericP> PROPOSED: follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that (nested) containers remain the same
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PROPOSED: follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that (nested) containers remain the same ←
14:58:52 <TallTed> I suggest s/(nested) containers/containers (whether nested or not)/
Ted Thibodeau: I suggest s/(nested) containers/containers (whether nested or not)/ ←
14:59:03 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
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14:59:12 <ericP> PROPOSAL: Follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that containers (whether nested or not) remain the same
PROPOSED: Follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that containers (whether nested or not) remain the same ←
14:59:18 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:59:19 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:59:21 <JohnArwe> +1
14:59:22 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
14:59:24 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:59:24 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
14:59:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
+1 ←
14:59:28 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:59:30 <krp> +1
Kevin Page: +1 ←
14:59:35 <roger> +1
Roger Menday: +1 ←
14:59:53 <ericP> RESOLVED: Follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that containers (whether nested or not) remain the same
RESOLVED: Follow ericP's plan to keep LDP data out of LDPRs per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2013Sep/0055.html , noting that the intent is that containers (whether nested or not) remain the same ←
15:00:41 <roger> is that URL in the above actually de-referencable ?
Roger Menday: is that URL in the above actually de-referencable ? ←
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15:00:55 <Zakim> -krp
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15:00:55 <Zakim> -Sandro
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15:00:57 <Zakim> -roger
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15:00:58 <Zakim> -Arnaud
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15:01:10 <Zakim> -bart
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15:01:16 <Zakim> -TallTed
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15:01:18 <Zakim> -EricP
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15:02:41 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
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15:02:42 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
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15:02:42 <Zakim> Attendees were BartvanLeeuwen, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, Sandro, TallTed, JohnArwe, +44.208.573.aaaa, bart, krp, roger, EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were BartvanLeeuwen, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, SteveS, Sandro, TallTed, JohnArwe, +44.208.573.aaaa, bart, krp, roger, EricP ←
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