Meeting Record

eGov IG 16 November 2012

Minutes of 16 November 2012

Seen

Brand Niemann, Daniel Bennett, Deirdre Lee, Gannon Dick, Gwyneth Sutherlin, Jeanne Holm, Phil Archer, Unknown bgryth, Unknown bhyland, Unknown thschee

Chair

Jeanne Holm

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

None.

Topics

Summary of ISWC2012, ISWC, ISWC12
Plans for topic or Open data
Bernadette Hyland on TPAC 2012
Brian Gryth on Open Data
Daniel Bennett Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions
WWW2013 Brazil

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15:59:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-irc

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15:59:53 <PhilA2> zakim, this is egov

Phil Archer: zakim, this is egov ←

15:59:53 <Zakim> ok, PhilA2; that matches T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA2; that matches T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM ←

16:00:00 <PhilA2> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←

16:00:00 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2 ←

16:00:05 <Zakim> +bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland ←

16:00:13 <bhyland> good morning all

Scribe problem: the name 'bhyland' does not match any of the 98 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Gwyneth Sutherlin Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown bhyland: good morning all ←

16:00:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←

16:00:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←

16:00:35 <PhilA2> zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, IPcaller.a is me ←

16:00:35 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←

16:00:39 <GwynSutherlin> I think I'm an IP caller too

Gwyneth Sutherlin: I think I'm an IP caller too ←

16:00:41 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Unknown bhyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

16:00:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, [IPcaller], PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, [IPcaller], PhilA2 ←

16:00:42 <Zakim> +??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←

16:00:44 <Jeanne_Holm> Um, me too.

Jeanne Holm: Um, me too. ←

16:00:52 <Jeanne_Holm> Good day all.

Jeanne Holm: Good day all. ←

16:01:08 <Zakim> -??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P12 ←

16:01:11 <GannonDick> Zakim, aaaa is GannonDick

Gannon Dick: Zakim, aaaa is GannonDick ←

16:01:11 <Zakim> +GannonDick; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +GannonDick; got it ←

16:01:27 <Zakim> + +1.703.281.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.281.aacc ←

16:01:35 <bgryth> Good day all

Scribe problem: the name 'bgryth' does not match any of the 98 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Gwyneth Sutherlin Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown bgryth: Good day all ←

16:01:50 <PhilA2> zakim, ipcaller is GwynSutherlin

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is GwynSutherlin ←

16:01:50 <Zakim> + +88697069aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +88697069aadd ←

16:01:50 <Zakim> +GwynSutherlin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +GwynSutherlin; got it ←

16:02:12 <thschee> zakim, +88697069aadd is thschee

Scribe problem: the name 'thschee' does not match any of the 98 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Gwyneth Sutherlin Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown thschee: zakim, +88697069aadd is thschee ←

16:02:12 <Zakim> +thschee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +thschee; got it ←

16:02:29 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Unknown bhyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

16:02:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, +1.703.281.aacc, thschee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, +1.703.281.aacc, thschee ←

16:02:50 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is bgryth

Unknown bhyland: zakim, aabb is bgryth ←

16:02:51 <Zakim> +bgryth; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bgryth; got it ←

16:03:15 <bhyland> zakim, aacc is brand

Unknown bhyland: zakim, aacc is brand ←

16:03:15 <Zakim> +brand; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +brand; got it ←

16:03:32 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Unknown bhyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

16:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, bgryth, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, brand, thschee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, bgryth, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, brand, thschee ←

16:04:35 <Zakim> + +3539149aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aaee ←

16:04:53 <PhilA2> zakim, aaee is DeirdreLee

Phil Archer: zakim, aaee is DeirdreLee ←

16:04:53 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DeirdreLee; got it ←

16:05:40 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Unknown bhyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

16:05:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, bgryth, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, brand, thschee, DeirdreLee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, GannonDick, bgryth, bhyland, GwynSutherlin, PhilA2, brand, thschee, DeirdreLee ←

16:05:53 <bhyland> zakim, P1 is Jeanne

Unknown bhyland: zakim, P1 is Jeanne ←

16:05:53 <Zakim> sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'P1'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'P1' ←

16:06:02 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P1 is Jeanne_Holm

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P1 is Jeanne_Holm ←

16:06:02 <Zakim> +Jeanne_Holm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeanne_Holm; got it ←

16:06:38 <bhyland>  Agenda

Unknown bhyland: Agenda ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	•	0800-0810: Open Data Kickoff (Jeanne Holm)

Unknown bhyland: • 0800-0810: Open Data Kickoff (Jeanne Holm) ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	•	0810-0830: 2012 TPAC Overview (Bernadette Hyland)

Unknown bhyland: • 0810-0830: 2012 TPAC Overview (Bernadette Hyland) ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	◦	TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/

Unknown bhyland: ◦ TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	◦	TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/

Unknown bhyland: ◦ TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/ ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	•	0830-0855: OpenColorado (Brian Gryth)

Unknown bhyland: • 0830-0855: OpenColorado (Brian Gryth) ←

16:06:38 <bhyland> 	•	0855-0920: Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions (Daniel Bennett)

Unknown bhyland: • 0855-0920: Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions (Daniel Bennett) ←

16:06:39 <bhyland> 	•	0920-0930: Call for session on open data at http://www2013.org/ (Jeanne Holm)

Unknown bhyland: • 0920-0930: Call for session on open data at http://www2013.org/ (Jeanne Holm) ←

16:07:47 <PhilA2> ISWC info at http://iswc2012.semanticweb.org/

Phil Archer: ISWC info at http://iswc2012.semanticweb.org/ ←

16:08:06 <GannonDick> I have no idea what I'm doing

Gannon Dick: I have no idea what I'm doing ←

16:08:33 <bhyland> Topic: Summary of ISWC2012, ISWC, ISWC12

1. Summary of ISWC2012, ISWC, ISWC12

16:08:43 <Jeanne_Holm> The keynote I gave is online already at http://www.slideshare.net/jeanneholm1/iswc-2012-keynote

Jeanne Holm: The keynote I gave is online already at http://www.slideshare.net/jeanneholm1/iswc-2012-keynote ←

16:09:32 <Jeanne_Holm> Gannon...follow what I do...

Jeanne Holm: Gannon...follow what I do... ←

16:09:44 <GannonDick> got it

Gannon Dick: got it ←

16:09:49 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: ISWC2012 was very good, every other poster session referenced linked data, which was a change

Unknown bhyland: ISWC2012 was very good, every other poster session referenced linked data, which was a change [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:10:15 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Previously was OWL, inferencing, and was more about big data and scaling

Unknown bhyland: Previously was OWL, inferencing, and was more about big data and scaling [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:10:40 <GannonDick> bhyland: half from Europe

Unknown bhyland: half from Europe [ Scribe Assist by Gannon Dick ] ←

16:10:44 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Largely European, next Asia, next US--but clearly global impact.  Perhaps 700+ at the conference

Unknown bhyland: Largely European, next Asia, next US--but clearly global impact. Perhaps 700+ at the conference [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:11:10 <Jeanne_Holm> :-)

Jeanne Holm: :-) ←

16:11:55 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big projects, large scale, commercial projects as well

Unknown bhyland: Big projects, large scale, commercial projects as well [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:12:26 <bgryth> yeah iTirage

Unknown bgryth: yeah iTirage ←

16:12:43 <Jeanne_Holm> iTriage was started by two doctors from Colorado

Jeanne Holm: iTriage was started by two doctors from Colorado ←

16:13:26 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Thanks everyone who has been participating in the last 3 months or so

Jeanne Holm: Thanks everyone who has been participating in the last 3 months or so [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:13:51 <PhilA2> ... Trying to get people from different and diverse countries

Phil Archer: ... Trying to get people from different and diverse countries ←

16:14:39 <PhilA2> ... we've concluded proceedings on social media for now. Daniel is going to talk about how we're going to craft an actual W3C Note from that

Phil Archer: ... we've concluded proceedings on social media for now. Daniel is going to talk about how we're going to craft an actual W3C Note from that ←

16:15:06 <PhilA2> Topic: Plans for topic or Open data

2. Plans for topic or Open data

16:15:29 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Talks coming up on aggregating and using open data

Jeanne Holm: Talks coming up on aggregating and using open data [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:15:51 <PhilA2> ... starting with broad scale over views and we'll then get into more specifics

Phil Archer: ... starting with broad scale over views and we'll then get into more specifics ←

16:16:09 <PhilA2> ... we can extend the series as long as the group wants us to

Phil Archer: ... we can extend the series as long as the group wants us to ←

16:16:36 <PhilA2> Topic: Bernadette Hyland on TPAC 2012

3. Bernadette Hyland on TPAC 2012

16:16:53 <Jeanne_Holm> I got it Phil...

Jeanne Holm: I got it Phil... ←

16:17:03 <bhyland>  TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/

Unknown bhyland: TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ ←

16:17:03 <bhyland>     ◦    TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/

Unknown bhyland: ◦ TPAC 2012: http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/ ←

16:17:24 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: At TPAC 2012 this year eGov and Gov Linked Data groups did not have a formal event, although they did last year

Unknown bhyland: At TPAC 2012 this year eGov and Gov Linked Data groups did not have a formal event, although they did last year [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:17:48 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: The technical plenary and advisory committee (TPAC) is where the 380 member organizations have a chance to impact the priorities of the W3C

Unknown bhyland: The technical plenary and advisory committee (TPAC) is where the 380 member organizations have a chance to impact the priorities of the W3C [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:18:36 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: W3C staff can also share what is going on with the overall organization.  Each member company (like IBM or Oracle) gets one representative.

Unknown bhyland: W3C staff can also share what is going on with the overall organization. Each member company (like IBM or Oracle) gets one representative. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:19:21 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: W3C put on an amazing event and the blogs posted above contain my notes

Unknown bhyland: W3C put on an amazing event and the blogs posted above contain my notes [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:20:14 <Zakim> + +1.202.651.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.651.aaff ←

16:20:49 <PhilA2> Pretty much any and all praise for the organisation of TPAC is due to the rather wonderful Alex http://www.w3.org/People/all#alex

Phil Archer: Pretty much any and all praise for the organisation of TPAC is due to the rather wonderful Alex http://www.w3.org/People/all#alex ←

16:20:51 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Jeff''s key point was that the W3C is in early phase of adoption and was grounded that there is a lot to be done

Unknown bhyland: Jeff''s key point was that the W3C is in early phase of adoption and was grounded that there is a lot to be done [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:21:20 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big project with focus is HTML5 but won't be published formally as a standard until 2014

Unknown bhyland: Big project with focus is HTML5 but won't be published formally as a standard until 2014 [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:22:10 <PhilA2> Web Platform http://www.webplatform.org/

Phil Archer: Web Platform http://www.webplatform.org/ ←

16:22:15 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Web developers of all kinds should have a place on the web where they can get access to documentation (Doug Shepherd?) which is the clearing house

Unknown bhyland: Web developers of all kinds should have a place on the web where they can get access to documentation (Doug Shepherd?) which is the clearing house [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:22:46 <Jeanne_Holm> correction: Web Platform as noted

Scribe problem: the name 'correction' does not match any of the 98 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Gwyneth Sutherlin Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown correction: Web Platform as noted [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:23:47 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: There is a Department of Education grant to the W3C for the person to help lead the accessibility group--very cool and impressive with the number of people who are producing the platform at all levels of abilities

Unknown bhyland: There is a Department of Education grant to the W3C for the person to help lead the accessibility group--very cool and impressive with the number of people who are producing the platform at all levels of abilities [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:23:48 <PhilA2> Worth noting that our Web Content Accessibility Guidelines are cited in the legislation of several countries (as well as more in gov guidelines)

Phil Archer: Worth noting that our Web Content Accessibility Guidelines are cited in the legislation of several countries (as well as more in gov guidelines) ←

16:24:44 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Extraordinary experience, who's who of thought leaders, not academic like ISWC.  You should definitely participate and plan to attend when able.  Well honed W3C infrastructure.

Unknown bhyland: Extraordinary experience, who's who of thought leaders, not academic like ISWC. You should definitely participate and plan to attend when able. Well honed W3C infrastructure. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:25:41 <PhilA2> Community Groups and Business Groups have replaced Incubator Groups as the quick start, lightweight process for bringing/airing work at W3C

Phil Archer: Community Groups and Business Groups have replaced Incubator Groups as the quick start, lightweight process for bringing/airing work at W3C ←

16:25:48 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Community groups are new to W3C--if someone has an idea for something (like Henry Story on WebID) and gets 5 people to agree, then they can propose a community.

Unknown bhyland: Community groups are new to W3C--if someone has an idea for something (like Henry Story on WebID) and gets 5 people to agree, then they can propose a community. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:27:10 <Daniel_Bennett> Jenni Tennison did a great key note about linking RDF, JSON as well as HTML and XML

Daniel Bennett: Jenni Tennison did a great key note about linking RDF, JSON as well as HTML and XML ←

16:27:14 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: JSON developers proposed a spec for working with linked data as an example (had been initiated by a community group)

Unknown bhyland: JSON developers proposed a spec for working with linked data as an example (had been initiated by a community group) [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:27:42 <PhilA2> -> JSON-LD Community Group http://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/

Phil Archer: -> JSON-LD Community Group http://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/ ←

16:28:01 <PhilA2> ->emerging JSON-LD syntax spec http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-syntax/

Phil Archer: ->emerging JSON-LD syntax spec http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-syntax/ ←

16:28:02 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Great way for companies to be able to contribute to the open web platform

Unknown bhyland: Great way for companies to be able to contribute to the open web platform [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:29:36 <Daniel_Bennett> video by Jenni Tennison about linking RDF, JSON, HTML, and XML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_CAiVyqTQ

Daniel Bennett: video by Jenni Tennison about linking RDF, JSON, HTML, and XML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_CAiVyqTQ ←

16:29:39 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big emphasis was on HTML5, mobile support and devices, and the Open Web Platform

Unknown bhyland: Big emphasis was on HTML5, mobile support and devices, and the Open Web Platform [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:29:43 <GannonDick> jalapenos for pizza available ?

Gannon Dick: jalapenos for pizza available ? ←

16:30:02 <PhilA2> Ooh, thanks Daniel_Bennett I've not seen that

Phil Archer: Ooh, thanks Daniel_Bennett I've not seen that ←

16:30:26 <bhyland> #1 theme from Gov't breakout was:

Unknown bhyland: #1 theme from Gov't breakout was: ←

16:30:27 <bhyland> Everyone wants ROI stories for publication & consumption of Linked Data.

Unknown bhyland: Everyone wants ROI stories for publication & consumption of Linked Data. ←

16:30:37 <bhyland> #2 - Common problem is overwhelming government officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from which internal champions can pull language:

Unknown bhyland: #2 - Common problem is overwhelming government officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from which internal champions can pull language: ←

16:30:37 <bhyland> 	•	Financial benefits

Unknown bhyland: • Financial benefits ←

16:30:37 <bhyland> 	•	Social responsibility benefits

Unknown bhyland: • Social responsibility benefits ←

16:30:37 <bhyland> 	•	Legal & regulatory benefits

Unknown bhyland: • Legal & regulatory benefits ←

16:30:37 <bhyland> 	•	Technical benefits

Unknown bhyland: • Technical benefits ←

16:31:11 <bhyland> #3 theme - Need to document on W3C site compelling applications using Linked Data are critical, beef up SWEO concept & bring it up to date for LD deployments in the wild.  This will help Gartner too.

Unknown bhyland: #3 theme - Need to document on W3C site compelling applications using Linked Data are critical, beef up SWEO concept & bring it up to date for LD deployments in the wild. This will help Gartner too. ←

16:31:23 <Jeanne_Holm> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/d/d6/Gryth_OpenData_eGov.ppt

Jeanne Holm: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/d/d6/Gryth_OpenData_eGov.ppt ←

16:31:28 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Thanks Bernadette. We're seeing real traction on data across the board - good stuff!

Jeanne Holm: Thanks Bernadette. We're seeing real traction on data across the board - good stuff! [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:31:52 <PhilA2> Topic: Brian Gryth on Open Data

4. Brian Gryth on Open Data

16:32:39 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: The vision of Open Colorado is that we are looking to support transformation that is happening in goverment that will be more beautiful, simply and easy to use

Unknown bgryth: The vision of Open Colorado is that we are looking to support transformation that is happening in goverment that will be more beautiful, simply and easy to use [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:32:46 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are created to help make that happen

Unknown bgryth: We are created to help make that happen [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:32:59 <PhilA2> slide 3

Phil Archer: slide 3 ←

16:33:09 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Education, tools, and partnerships are the focus

Unknown bgryth: Education, tools, and partnerships are the focus [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:33:28 <PhilA2> Slide 4

Phil Archer: Slide 4 ←

16:33:44 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Education = W3C, Code for America, OKF involvement, plus CGATE, which is open government at local levels

Unknown bgryth: Education = W3C, Code for America, OKF involvement, plus CGATE, which is open government at local levels [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:35:00 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: DenverCog--regional group that works with governments to free up the data

Unknown bgryth: DenverCog--regional group that works with governments to free up the data [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:35:12 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: OpenColorado helps to host data as well

Unknown bgryth: OpenColorado helps to host data as well [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:35:49 <Jeanne_Holm> Colorado Municipal League--city managers and attorneys, presentations on what open government is and touching on open data and policies that are needed

Jeanne Holm: Colorado Municipal League--city managers and attorneys, presentations on what open government is and touching on open data and policies that are needed ←

16:36:46 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Social media trainings, and CityCamps--last one in October and a combo conference/unconference

Unknown bgryth: Social media trainings, and CityCamps--last one in October and a combo conference/unconference [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:37:24 <Jeanne_Holm> http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado/

Jeanne Holm: http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado/ ←

16:37:50 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: The tool component is at http://data.opencolorado.org

Unknown bgryth: The tool component is at http://data.opencolorado.org [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:38:31 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We look at how to make data findable and get it out.  We have Denver, Arvada, Boulder, Castlerock, and counties of Denver and Boulder. A CKAN instance from OKF.

Unknown bgryth: We look at how to make data findable and get it out. We have Denver, Arvada, Boulder, Castlerock, and counties of Denver and Boulder. A CKAN instance from OKF. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:39:14 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Went with CKAN based on Data.gov.uk model of using open source platform and tools (US Data.gov was custom built at that time)

Unknown bgryth: Went with CKAN based on Data.gov.uk model of using open source platform and tools (US Data.gov was custom built at that time) [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:40:20 <Jeanne_Holm> (Personal note: Data.gov released open source code on Github now too ;-) https://github.com/opengovplatform

Jeanne Holm: (Personal note: Data.gov released open source code on Github now too ;-) https://github.com/opengovplatform ←

16:41:04 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: First city camp had a lot of CEOs and CIOs saying that data was open, but didn't know how to go to the next step with policies

Unknown bgryth: First city camp had a lot of CEOs and CIOs saying that data was open, but didn't know how to go to the next step with policies [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:41:49 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We sat down and wrote a policy based on President Obama's open government directive and created a model policy that looked at the ways to create a policy

Unknown bgryth: We sat down and wrote a policy based on President Obama's open government directive and created a model policy that looked at the ways to create a policy [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:42:17 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Cook County adopted as well as others

Unknown bgryth: Cook County adopted as well as others [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:42:25 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Technology + policy component

Unknown bgryth: Technology + policy component [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:42:51 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are a small group and this is not our main jobs, so we need help to build capacity and we partner with governments

Unknown bgryth: We are a small group and this is not our main jobs, so we need help to build capacity and we partner with governments [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:42:51 <PhilA2> we're now on slide 6

Phil Archer: we're now on slide 6 ←

16:43:58 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: A lot of gov attorneys do not know about IP, but there is a shift now and we are helping them understand about open record requests, digital material, and trademarks and open data and open gov

Unknown bgryth: A lot of gov attorneys do not know about IP, but there is a shift now and we are helping them understand about open record requests, digital material, and trademarks and open data and open gov [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:44:17 <bhyland> @bgryth, do you want to take questions interleaved or at end?

Unknown bhyland: @bgryth, do you want to take questions interleaved or at end? ←

16:44:42 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: At same time as this CityCamp, there was Denver StartUp week and we ran events on civic innovation http://denverstartupweek.com/

Unknown bgryth: At same time as this CityCamp, there was Denver StartUp week and we ran events on civic innovation http://denverstartupweek.com/ [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:46:02 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Had an apps challenge and got two winners:  Open Bike (bike lockers, thefts, paths) lets people create and rate bike routes (overview at http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado-2012-presenters/)

Unknown bgryth: Had an apps challenge and got two winners: Open Bike (bike lockers, thefts, paths) lets people create and rate bike routes (overview at http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado-2012-presenters/) [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:46:09 <GwynSutherlin> Indy needs an app like that. they are bike/car planning challenged

Gwyneth Sutherlin: Indy needs an app like that. they are bike/car planning challenged ←

16:46:38 <PhilA2> Apps around bicyle usage is interesting. How do you comment on a point of interest along the route? i.e. how do you represent a POI I wonder

Phil Archer: Apps around bicyle usage is interesting. How do you comment on a point of interest along the route? i.e. how do you represent a POI I wonder ←

16:46:42 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Second winner:  Displaying and visualizing the data around crime

Unknown bgryth: Second winner: Displaying and visualizing the data around crime [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:47:22 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Next focus is on rural communities that may not have digital literacy or technologies, they give a lot back to the big cities, so how to help each other

Unknown bgryth: Next focus is on rural communities that may not have digital literacy or technologies, they give a lot back to the big cities, so how to help each other [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:48:16 <GwynSutherlin> internet access in rural US is worse than in middle of amazon

Gwyneth Sutherlin: internet access in rural US is worse than in middle of amazon ←

16:48:22 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are creating an Adopt a City program (slide 7) that over 4 years helps rural cities get up and running through training and mentorship

Unknown bgryth: We are creating an Adopt a City program (slide 7) that over 4 years helps rural cities get up and running through training and mentorship [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:48:50 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Code for Communities: odeforcommunities.org

Unknown bgryth: Code for Communities: odeforcommunities.org [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:49:03 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth:  Code for communities:  http://codeforcommunities.org

Unknown bgryth: Code for communities: http://codeforcommunities.org [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:49:11 <bgryth> denver-wiki.org

Unknown bgryth: denver-wiki.org ←

16:50:00 <Jeanne_Holm> http://denver-wiki.org

Jeanne Holm: http://denver-wiki.org ←

16:50:29 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Storify on CityCamp: http://storify.com/michelehovet/citycampco-2012.

Unknown bgryth: Storify on CityCamp: http://storify.com/michelehovet/citycampco-2012. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:50:39 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Host to Host a City Camp: http://www.govtech.com/govgirl/How-to-Host-a-CityCamp.html

Unknown bgryth: Host to Host a City Camp: http://www.govtech.com/govgirl/How-to-Host-a-CityCamp.html [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:50:57 <bhyland> whew!  Does bgryth breath??

Unknown bhyland: whew! Does bgryth breath?? ←

16:51:05 <bhyland> q+

Unknown bhyland: q+ ←

16:51:11 <PhilA2> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

16:51:15 <GannonDick> don't think so

Gannon Dick: don't think so ←

16:51:21 <Jeanne_Holm> ack bhyland

Jeanne Holm: ack bhyland ←

16:51:21 <PhilA2> ack bhyland

Phil Archer: ack bhyland ←

16:51:38 <PhilA2> bhyland: Are you one of the oldest city open gov data efforts?

Unknown bhyland: Are you one of the oldest city open gov data efforts? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:51:44 <Jeanne_Holm> (Gannon--are you up for scribing the next talk?)

Jeanne Holm: (Gannon--are you up for scribing the next talk?) ←

16:51:51 <PhilA2> bgryth: We're first to adopt CKAN in the USA

Unknown bgryth: We're first to adopt CKAN in the USA [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:51:54 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We started using CKAN in 2010

Unknown bgryth: We started using CKAN in 2010 [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:52:04 <PhilA2> ... we're one of the older ones

Phil Archer: ... we're one of the older ones ←

16:52:08 <GannonDick> trying jeanne can't type fst enough

Gannon Dick: trying jeanne can't type fst enough ←

16:52:30 <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Questions: would it make sense to get a funded model? Have you surveyed or gotten seed funding?

Unknown bhyland: Questions: would it make sense to get a funded model? Have you surveyed or gotten seed funding? [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:52:31 <PhilA2> bhyland: Huge achievements so far, but hwo about getting funding so it moves out of the willing volunteer sphere

Unknown bhyland: Huge achievements so far, but hwo about getting funding so it moves out of the willing volunteer sphere [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:52:38 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We have some funding to support website

Unknown bgryth: We have some funding to support website [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

16:52:47 <PhilA2> bgryth: We have some funding for the hosting (on Amazon)

Unknown bgryth: We have some funding for the hosting (on Amazon) [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:53:20 <Jeanne_Holm> Thanks!

Jeanne Holm: Thanks! ←

16:53:44 <PhilA2> bgryth: We're going to have to look at different models. WE have a lot of partners. Denver almost doubled our catalogue. DRCOG is the largest and we're getting that by scraping their site

Unknown bgryth: We're going to have to look at different models. WE have a lot of partners. Denver almost doubled our catalogue. DRCOG is the largest and we're getting that by scraping their site [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:53:51 <PhilA2> ... need to look at improving that

Phil Archer: ... need to look at improving that ←

16:54:03 <PhilA2> ... right now it's free for the gov. We'd like to change that

Phil Archer: ... right now it's free for the gov. We'd like to change that ←

16:54:12 <PhilA2> ... need a more sustainable model

Phil Archer: ... need a more sustainable model ←

16:54:57 <PhilA2> ... got ideas on working with other portals. Want to integrate across not just catalogues bu catalogue platforms

Phil Archer: ... got ideas on working with other portals. Want to integrate across not just catalogues bu catalogue platforms ←

16:55:15 <PhilA2> ... the 6 of us that do this are running at capacity. We need help

Phil Archer: ... the 6 of us that do this are running at capacity. We need help ←

16:55:50 <PhilA2> bhyland: The other comment I'd make... I work on getting federal data published. Screen scraped data is likely to back fire as it is brittle

Unknown bhyland: The other comment I'd make... I work on getting federal data published. Screen scraped data is likely to back fire as it is brittle [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:56:04 <PhilA2> ... no thought about licences, URI persistence etc.

Phil Archer: ... no thought about licences, URI persistence etc. ←

16:56:28 <PhilA2> ... feels like a bunch of enthusiastic university folk. Needs broader/state/federal level support

Phil Archer: ... feels like a bunch of enthusiastic university folk. Needs broader/state/federal level support ←

16:56:39 <PhilA2> ... I want to help make it more sustainable

Phil Archer: ... I want to help make it more sustainable ←

16:56:56 <PhilA2> bgryth: I agree... we want to make sure that we do what you're saying

Unknown bgryth: I agree... we want to make sure that we do what you're saying [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:57:02 <PhilA2> ... needs to become sustainable

Phil Archer: ... needs to become sustainable ←

16:57:36 <PhilA2> ... I don't want it to become like a box ticking exercise with no commitment

Phil Archer: ... I don't want it to become like a box ticking exercise with no commitment ←

16:57:52 <PhilA2> ... they need to put resources behind it

Phil Archer: ... they need to put resources behind it ←

16:57:59 <bhyland> It is *really* important that our open government data efforts are implemented in a sustainable manner, with OSI-approved Open Licenses are associated with data sets, and other key metadata about publication frequency, disclaimers, etc

Unknown bhyland: It is *really* important that our open government data efforts are implemented in a sustainable manner, with OSI-approved Open Licenses are associated with data sets, and other key metadata about publication frequency, disclaimers, etc ←

16:58:18 <bhyland> … and well considered Web architecture

Unknown bhyland: … and well considered Web architecture ←

16:58:28 <bhyland> … and done in a scalable manner that avoid data duplication

Unknown bhyland: … and done in a scalable manner that avoid data duplication ←

16:59:17 <PhilA2> bgryth: For the hackathon, we didn't give prize money, we got a management firm to give them their kind of help to help them be more sustainable

Unknown bgryth: For the hackathon, we didn't give prize money, we got a management firm to give them their kind of help to help them be more sustainable [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

16:59:25 <Jeanne_Holm> ack PhilA2

Jeanne Holm: ack PhilA2 ←

16:59:58 <PhilA2> http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards

Phil Archer: http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards ←

17:00:31 <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: Interesting to see the different perspective where there is investment in the UK and here in Colorado it's a volunteer effort for OpenColorado

Phil Archer: Interesting to see the different perspective where there is investment in the UK and here in Colorado it's a volunteer effort for OpenColorado [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:01:02 <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: Are there standards you wish existed if people would use them?

Phil Archer: Are there standards you wish existed if people would use them? [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:01:09 <bhyland> RE: W3C Government Linked Data Standards …

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17:02:41 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: There are a lot of organizations looking at the problems around this

Unknown bgryth: There are a lot of organizations looking at the problems around this [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:02:51 <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Trying to form a CKAN association and then work with the W3C

Unknown bgryth: Trying to form a CKAN association and then work with the W3C [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:03:13 <bhyland> @ggryth - I'd invite you to consider discussing / contributing some of the lessons learned about managing datasets to help it become codified in a W3C published Best Practices doc ...

Unknown bhyland: @ggryth - I'd invite you to consider discussing / contributing some of the lessons learned about managing datasets to help it become codified in a W3C published Best Practices doc ... ←

17:03:27 <Jeanne_Holm> (Daniel--are you set?)

Jeanne Holm: (Daniel--are you set?) ←

17:03:53 <bhyland> bgryth: License

Unknown bgryth: License [ Scribe Assist by Unknown bhyland ] ←

17:03:54 <bhyland> Select the license under which the data is released.OpenColorado recommends either of the following licenses:http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Unknown bhyland: Select the license under which the data is released.OpenColorado recommends either of the following licenses:http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ ←

17:05:25 <PhilA2> Topic: Daniel Bennett Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions

5. Daniel Bennett Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions

17:05:29 <bgryth> Thanks everyone!

Unknown bgryth: Thanks everyone! ←

17:05:38 <PhilA2> See wiki http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

Phil Archer: See wiki http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans ←

17:05:45 <Daniel_Bennett> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

Daniel Bennett: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans ←

17:06:01 <bhyland> @pgryth, thank you for a very comprehensive dive on Open Colorado, great work!  Very interesting, thank you.

Unknown bhyland: @pgryth, thank you for a very comprehensive dive on Open Colorado, great work! Very interesting, thank you. ←

17:06:24 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: The idea is that for each of these, we'll have a meeting to get us towards a concrete/finsihed product. These will be separate from the monthly eGov IG meetings

Daniel Bennett: The idea is that for each of these, we'll have a meeting to get us towards a concrete/finsihed product. These will be separate from the monthly eGov IG meetings [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Series of Meetings

Daniel Bennett: Series of Meetings [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  Whiteboard/Ideas session

Phil Archer: Whiteboard/Ideas session ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  Requirements

Phil Archer: Requirements ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  Outline

Phil Archer: Outline ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  Delegation

Phil Archer: Delegation ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  First Draft Deadline

Phil Archer: First Draft Deadline ←

17:06:47 <PhilA2>  Executive Summary/One pager

Phil Archer: Executive Summary/One pager ←

17:06:48 <PhilA2>  Editorial Session for content

Phil Archer: Editorial Session for content ←

17:06:48 <PhilA2>  Editorial Session for accessibility, proofing, readability

Phil Archer: Editorial Session for accessibility, proofing, readability ←

17:06:48 <PhilA2>  W3C vetting

Phil Archer: W3C vetting ←

17:07:17 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Delegation - volunteers often dry up so here's where we get people to commit to deliver a section

Daniel Bennett: Delegation - volunteers often dry up so here's where we get people to commit to deliver a section [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:07:27 <PhilA2> ... that will tell us how real this is

Phil Archer: ... that will tell us how real this is ←

17:07:37 <PhilA2> q

Phil Archer: q ←

17:07:40 <PhilA2> q-

Phil Archer: q- ←

17:08:09 <bhyland> Who is the target audience for this writeup?

Unknown bhyland: Who is the target audience for this writeup? ←

17:09:42 <PhilA2> We can be quick when we have to be, honestly...

Phil Archer: We can be quick when we have to be, honestly... ←

17:10:21 <bhyland> @Daniel_Bennett … can you provide the 50,000' view of what you're aiming to achieve with this writeup please?

Unknown bhyland: @Daniel_Bennett … can you provide the 50,000' view of what you're aiming to achieve with this writeup please? ←

17:10:28 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: We may use the wiki or we may have a secretary (prob me) who will collect text in whatever format and add it to the wiki

Daniel Bennett: We may use the wiki or we may have a secretary (prob me) who will collect text in whatever format and add it to the wiki [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:10:47 <Jeanne_Holm> Target audience is for the larger community of eGov people who are not actually on the calls themselves.

Jeanne Holm: Target audience is for the larger community of eGov people who are not actually on the calls themselves. ←

17:10:56 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: I think having a checklist for gov workers is important

Daniel Bennett: I think having a checklist for gov workers is important [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:11:24 <PhilA2> ... it can be something generic enough for everyone to use and can be tailored to specific circumstances

Phil Archer: ... it can be something generic enough for everyone to use and can be tailored to specific circumstances ←

17:11:36 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public

Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public ←

17:11:36 <Jeanne_Holm> Daniel_Bennett: Have a menu for social media to broaden the possibilities

Daniel Bennett: Have a menu for social media to broaden the possibilities [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:11:53 <Jeanne_Holm> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Checklist_for_Social_Media

Jeanne Holm: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Checklist_for_Social_Media ←

17:11:59 <bhyland> @Jeanne_Holm, so is it a summary of all the eGov meetings or a work product like a best practices doc?

Unknown bhyland: @Jeanne_Holm, so is it a summary of all the eGov meetings or a work product like a best practices doc? ←

17:13:05 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: The idea is that there is a process - rules etc. on how they do things. So first thing would be to draw a diagram of how they do things in that department

Daniel Bennett: The idea is that there is a process - rules etc. on how they do things. So first thing would be to draw a diagram of how they do things in that department [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:13:18 <Jeanne_Holm> Bhyland--a work product that will highlight some best practices (not to be an exhaustive research project) and the important things for gov implementers and those in the field to be aware of based on research and implementations presented from our group.

Jeanne Holm: Bhyland--a work product that will highlight some best practices (not to be an exhaustive research project) and the important things for gov implementers and those in the field to be aware of based on research and implementations presented from our group. ←

17:13:43 <bhyland> @jeanne_holm, thanks, understand.

Unknown bhyland: @jeanne_holm, thanks, understand. ←

17:13:50 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Then any legal issues. The federal gov has a specific contract. Others might have similar things to deal with. Accessibility, privacy etc.

Daniel Bennett: Then any legal issues. The federal gov has a specific contract. Others might have similar things to deal with. Accessibility, privacy etc. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:14:03 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: May be rules on moderation

Daniel Bennett: May be rules on moderation [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:14:51 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: May be rules on publishing government communications, activities etc.

Daniel Bennett: May be rules on publishing government communications, activities etc. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:15:25 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: In the whiteboard session I can look at the different layers so folks can see who they'll need to talk to

Daniel Bennett: In the whiteboard session I can look at the different layers so folks can see who they'll need to talk to [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:16:20 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Moves on to the menu http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Menu_for_Social_Media

Daniel Bennett: Moves on to the menu http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Menu_for_Social_Media [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:17:33 <Jeanne_Holm> q

Jeanne Holm: q ←

17:17:52 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Hoping to have a meeting every 2 weeks to make progress. Hope people are interested to lend a hand

Daniel Bennett: Hoping to have a meeting every 2 weeks to make progress. Hope people are interested to lend a hand [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:18:48 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: I just want to mention a couple of things. You've done some of these before - I like the framework

Jeanne Holm: I just want to mention a couple of things. You've done some of these before - I like the framework [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:19:03 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: You didn't volunteer to do everything.

Jeanne Holm: You didn't volunteer to do everything. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:19:14 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: I volunteered to do the social media one

Daniel Bennett: I volunteered to do the social media one [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:19:42 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: We're looking for volunteers for this but also to do the same thing for the open data series as well

Jeanne Holm: We're looking for volunteers for this but also to do the same thing for the open data series as well [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:19:53 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: Any questions or, better still, offers of help?

Daniel Bennett: Any questions or, better still, offers of help? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:20:05 <Jeanne_Holm> Please make sure to include me on the meeting for social media write up!

Jeanne Holm: Please make sure to include me on the meeting for social media write up! ←

17:20:09 <PhilA2> Daniel_Bennett: I'll take help from outsdie the Interest Group!

Daniel Bennett: I'll take help from outsdie the Interest Group! [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:21:13 <PhilA2> bhyland: I would encourage at least quarterly attendance for some folk here in the GLD Working Group http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/

Unknown bhyland: I would encourage at least quarterly attendance for some folk here in the GLD Working Group http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:21:48 <Jeanne_Holm> These are great meetings and I enoucrage people to attend as well.  I attend as able.

Jeanne Holm: These are great meetings and I enoucrage people to attend as well. I attend as able. ←

17:21:52 <PhilA2> bhyland: The vocab discussions may not be the ones of greatest interest but the best practice meetings would be - procurement, publishing etc.

Unknown bhyland: The vocab discussions may not be the ones of greatest interest but the best practice meetings would be - procurement, publishing etc. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:23:16 <PhilA2> brand: In a broader perspective... all this work with government open data and linked data should have started in a different way. Should have started with most interesting data and then move other data sets to the same direction

Brand Niemann: In a broader perspective... all this work with government open data and linked data should have started in a different way. Should have started with most interesting data and then move other data sets to the same direction [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:23:17 <Jeanne_Holm> Brand: This should have started in a different way with the best data from the gov agencies in the best standards and then to move the rest of the data that way.

Brand Niemann: This should have started in a different way with the best data from the gov agencies in the best standards and then to move the rest of the data that way. [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:23:38 <PhilA2> brand: We tried to make data.gov that way but it ended up essentially being an IT project

Brand Niemann: We tried to make data.gov that way but it ended up essentially being an IT project [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:24:28 <PhilA2> brand: I'm writing a paper for the Japanese government. They started with CKAN. I've been asked to take the statistical data they have and put that into a standardised linked data format as well as the CKAN data

Brand Niemann: I'm writing a paper for the Japanese government. They started with CKAN. I've been asked to take the statistical data they have and put that into a standardised linked data format as well as the CKAN data [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:25:12 <PhilA2> ... It's all about trying to take the best data a country has first and then get the open data to match

Phil Archer: ... It's all about trying to take the best data a country has first and then get the open data to match ←

17:25:39 <PhilA2> Topic: WWW2013 Brazil

6. WWW2013 Brazil

17:25:59 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Are we interested in organising a session on eGov/Open data?

Jeanne Holm: Are we interested in organising a session on eGov/Open data? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:26:28 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: It could be based on the social media Note that we should have published by then, possibly the one on open data by then too

Jeanne Holm: It could be based on the social media Note that we should have published by then, possibly the one on open data by then too [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:26:57 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: If we can come together in the coming weeks and see who wants to be involved - it's a good opportunity for the group

Jeanne Holm: If we can come together in the coming weeks and see who wants to be involved - it's a good opportunity for the group [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:27:03 <PhilA2> General call for help with flights

Phil Archer: General call for help with flights ←

17:27:54 <bhyland> PhilA2: The W3C staff involved in Society & Technology Activity believe the tech stack is nearly complete.

Phil Archer: The W3C staff involved in Society & Technology Activity believe the tech stack is nearly complete. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown bhyland ] ←

17:27:55 <bgryth> @bhyland - we would be happy to discuss lessons learned. Let me know how you'd like to do that.

Unknown bgryth: @bhyland - we would be happy to discuss lessons learned. Let me know how you'd like to do that. ←

17:28:35 <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: OKF and UK ODI event on Open Data on the Web: use, discovery, find it programmatically, vocabulary development

Phil Archer: OKF and UK ODI event on Open Data on the Web: use, discovery, find it programmatically, vocabulary development [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:29:10 <bhyland> Next requirements involve: #1 - Validation; #2 - Programmatic & developer access & re-use of data; #3 - Vocabulary development (some being done in W3C GLD WG), looking to consider more 'crowd sourced' approaches ...

Unknown bhyland: Next requirements involve: #1 - Validation; #2 - Programmatic & developer access & re-use of data; #3 - Vocabulary development (some being done in W3C GLD WG), looking to consider more 'crowd sourced' approaches ... ←

17:29:13 <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: This is just tentative and may happen

Phil Archer: This is just tentative and may happen [ Scribe Assist by Jeanne Holm ] ←

17:29:16 <DeirdreLee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+ ←

17:29:40 <PhilA2> ack DeirdreLee

Phil Archer: ack DeirdreLee ←

17:30:15 <PhilA2> European data Forum 2013 http://2013.data-forum.eu/

Phil Archer: European data Forum 2013 http://2013.data-forum.eu/ ←

17:30:18 <bhyland> European Data Forum, 9-10 April in Dublin Ireland … all about open data + Linked Data

Unknown bhyland: European Data Forum, 9-10 April in Dublin Ireland … all about open data + Linked Data ←

17:30:20 <bhyland> Yeah!

Unknown bhyland: Yeah! ←

17:31:36 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Next meeting at this time is on 14th Dec

Jeanne Holm: Next meeting at this time is on 14th Dec [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:32:25 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Rufus Pollock is scheduled for the next IG meeting which is on 26th Nov 09:00GMT - bad for US folk, sorry

Jeanne Holm: Rufus Pollock is scheduled for the next IG meeting which is on 26th Nov 09:00GMT - bad for US folk, sorry [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:32:45 <PhilA2> Jeanne_Holm: Brain Handspicker has volunteered to scribe next time.

Jeanne Holm: Brain Handspicker has volunteered to scribe next time. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

17:32:53 <bhyland> @jeanne-holm, perhaps a 15 debrief on GLD WG including community directory work makes sense … a brief on what we've completed in last 16 mos & plan for remaining months of our charter (7 mos).

Unknown bhyland: @jeanne-holm, perhaps a 15 debrief on GLD WG including community directory work makes sense … a brief on what we've completed in last 16 mos & plan for remaining months of our charter (7 mos). ←

17:33:05 <Zakim> -brand

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17:33:06 <Zakim> -bgryth

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17:33:06 <Zakim> -GannonDick

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17:33:07 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee

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17:33:07 <Zakim> -bhyland

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17:33:09 <Zakim> -Jeanne_Holm

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17:33:11 <Zakim> -GwynSutherlin

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17:33:18 <PhilA2> rrsagent, draft minutes

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17:33:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-minutes.html PhilA2

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17:33:18 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks Jeanne. volunteers can list their names on the Plans wiki page or email me daniel@citizencontact.com

Daniel Bennett: thanks Jeanne. volunteers can list their names on the Plans wiki page or email me daniel@citizencontact.com ←

17:33:40 <Zakim> - +1.202.651.aaff

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17:33:42 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(Atlantic)11:00AM has ended

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17:33:42 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, PhilA2, GannonDick, +1.703.281.aacc, GwynSutherlin, thschee, bgryth, brand, +3539149aaee, DeirdreLee, Jeanne_Holm,

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17:33:42 <Zakim> ... +1.202.651.aaff

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17:33:46 <PhilA2> rrsagent, draft minutes

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17:33:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-minutes.html PhilA2

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17:34:53 <PhilA2> meeting: eGov IG 16 November 2012

17:35:01 <PhilA2> chair: Jeanne Holm

17:35:06 <PhilA2> rrsagent, draft minutes

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17:35:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-minutes.html PhilA2

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