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12:57:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
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12:57:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
12:57:19 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
12:57:19 <Caroline_> Hello phila :) I am still getting on webex
Caroline Burle: Hello phila :) I am still getting on webex ←
12:57:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:20 <trackbot> Date: 10 July 2015
12:57:45 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley
Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley ←
12:58:25 <Caroline_> phila: yaso is sick she just sent a message at whatsapp
Phil Archer: yaso is sick she just sent a message at whatsapp [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ] ←
13:00:44 <antoine> guest: Newton Calegari
13:00:44 <antoine> scribe: Newton
(Scribe set to Newton Calegari)
13:00:44 <antoine> Chair; Steve
Antoine Isaac: Chair; Steve ←
13:03:31 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Hi All!
Riccardo Albertoni: Hi All! ←
13:03:31 <Caroline_> I am still trying to get into webex
Caroline Burle: I am still trying to get into webex ←
13:03:53 <Caroline_> Hello! :)
Caroline Burle: Hello! :) ←
13:05:49 <annette_g1> erg, does anyone know how to shake the 1 off the end of my nick?
Annette Greiner: erg, does anyone know how to shake the 1 off the end of my nick? ←
13:06:40 <BernadetteLoscio> hello!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: hello! ←
13:10:31 <antoine> present+ antoine
Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine ←
13:10:31 <adler1> present+ adler1
Steven Adler: present+ adler1 ←
13:10:32 <Caroline_> present+ Caroline_
Caroline Burle: present+ Caroline_ ←
13:10:44 <BernadetteLoscio> present+ BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: present+ BernadetteLoscio ←
13:11:16 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
Antoine Isaac: zakim, who is here? ←
13:11:16 <Zakim> sorry, antoine, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, antoine, I don't know what conference this is ←
13:11:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see adler1, laufer, Makx, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g1, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, newton, phila, trackbot, hadleybeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see adler1, laufer, Makx, BernadetteLoscio, annette_g1, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, newton, phila, trackbot, hadleybeeman, ←
13:11:18 <Zakim> ... rhiaro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro ←
13:11:32 <laufer> present+ laufer
Carlos Laufer: present+ laufer ←
13:11:33 <Caroline_> scribe: Caroline_
(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)
13:11:36 <annette_g1> present +
Annette Greiner: present + ←
13:11:53 <Caroline_> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03
http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03 ←
13:12:00 <EricKauz> present+ EricKauz
Eric Kauz: present+ EricKauz ←
13:12:19 <adler1> proposed: approve last meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03
PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03 ←
13:12:26 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:12:29 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:12:32 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:12:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> 0 ( I was not present)
Riccardo Albertoni: 0 ( I was not present) ←
13:12:35 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:12:35 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:12:36 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:12:39 <annette_g1> present+ annette_g1
Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g1 ←
13:12:43 <antoine> oops I was not here I can't vote. But they *look* good.
Antoine Isaac: oops I was not here I can't vote. But they *look* good. ←
13:12:46 <Makx> present+ makx
Makx Dekkers: present+ makx ←
13:12:48 <annette_g1> *thanks
Annette Greiner: *thanks ←
13:12:54 <annette_g1> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
13:13:13 <Caroline_> resolved: approve last meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03
RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-03 ←
13:13:32 <Caroline_> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150710
13:14:16 <phila> present+ PhilA
Phil Archer: present+ PhilA ←
13:14:38 <BernadetteLoscio> yes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ←
13:15:01 <Caroline_> antoine: we don't have a timelime for data vocabulary
Antoine Isaac: we don't have a timelime for data vocabulary ←
13:15:40 <Caroline_> adler1: should we spend more time on data quality vocabulary on next f2f
Steven Adler: should we spend more time on data quality vocabulary on next f2f ←
13:15:44 <Caroline_> ... ?
... ? ←
13:16:01 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:16:09 <Caroline_> ack antoine
ack antoine ←
13:16:40 <Caroline_> antoine: it would be good to spend some time on f2f discussing data quality vocabulary
Antoine Isaac: it would be good to spend some time on f2f discussing data quality vocabulary ←
13:16:54 <Caroline_> ... there are some important issues that would be great to get input from the group
... there are some important issues that would be great to get input from the group ←
13:17:01 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:17:37 <Caroline_> ... would be good to get some time on f2f to talk about that
... would be good to get some time on f2f to talk about that ←
13:17:42 <Caroline_> ack adler1
ack adler1 ←
13:18:29 <Caroline_> adler1: there is a tool developed to a small business find out where to open their business
Steven Adler: there is a tool developed to a small business find out where to open their business ←
13:19:08 <Caroline_> ... the city is quite concerned that there is significant data issues
... the city is quite concerned that there is significant data issues ←
13:19:27 <Caroline_> ... this is a use case for the working group
... this is a use case for the working group ←
13:19:33 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:19:51 <phila> ack adler1
Phil Archer: ack adler1 ←
13:20:05 <Caroline_> antoine: it sound great
Antoine Isaac: it sound great ←
13:22:34 <Caroline_> adler1: we can set up a conference call so the use case can be shared with the group
Steven Adler: we can set up a conference call so the use case can be shared with the group ←
13:22:39 <Caroline_> antoine: that sounds great
Antoine Isaac: that sounds great ←
13:22:59 <Caroline_> adler1: what about the data usage vocabulary
Steven Adler: what about the data usage vocabulary ←
13:23:39 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: Eric Stephan and Summit are also editors
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Eric Stephan and Summit are also editors ←
13:23:54 <adler1> q
Steven Adler: q ←
13:24:01 <Caroline_> .... it would be great if we have some time to discuss it during f2f as well
.... it would be great if we have some time to discuss it during f2f as well ←
13:24:21 <Caroline_> ... we will make some changes and work on the current draft
... we will make some changes and work on the current draft ←
13:24:33 <Caroline_> ... but we might still have some open issues on the f2f
... but we might still have some open issues on the f2f ←
13:24:55 <Caroline_> adler1: you would like to have some time on the agenda to discuss the data usage vocabulary?
Steven Adler: you would like to have some time on the agenda to discuss the data usage vocabulary? ←
13:25:08 <phila> q+ to highlight Ralph's comment
Phil Archer: q+ to highlight Ralph's comment ←
13:25:24 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I think it is important to have some time during the f2f to discuss both the data quality vocabulary and data usage vocabulary
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think it is important to have some time during the f2f to discuss both the data quality vocabulary and data usage vocabulary ←
13:25:32 <phila> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:25:35 <antoine> I agree with Bernadette on discussing relation between DQV and DUV.
Antoine Isaac: I agree with Bernadette on discussing relation between DQV and DUV. ←
13:25:39 <antoine> q-
Antoine Isaac: q- ←
13:25:50 <Caroline_> ... also, it is important to discuss the relationship of the 3 documents
... also, it is important to discuss the relationship of the 3 documents ←
13:26:03 <Caroline_> ... how to relate all of them
... how to relate all of them ←
13:26:39 <Caroline_> adler1: I think the vocabulary editors' could think how they relate to the BP document
Steven Adler: I think the vocabulary editors' could think how they relate to the BP document ←
13:26:45 <Caroline_> q+
q+ ←
13:26:56 <phila> ack adler1
Phil Archer: ack adler1 ←
13:27:05 <phila> q- a
Phil Archer: q- a ←
13:27:32 <antoine> +1 with Steve's approach on BP vs vocs. Right now it seems the right thing to do
Antoine Isaac: +1 with Steve's approach on BP vs vocs. Right now it seems the right thing to do ←
13:28:52 <Caroline_> Caroline_: it would be important to have a group agreement on how to relate the three documents
Caroline Burle: it would be important to have a group agreement on how to relate the three documents ←
13:29:28 <annette_g1> +1 to steve
Annette Greiner: +1 to steve ←
13:29:28 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
13:29:37 <BernadetteLoscio> yeah! can be interesting!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yeah! can be interesting! ←
13:29:43 <Caroline_> adler1: I suggest that the vocabulary's team recommend it
Steven Adler: I suggest that the vocabulary's team recommend it ←
13:30:06 <Caroline_> ... if they can put forward BP recommendations they could say how it would afect the BP document
... if they can put forward BP recommendations they could say how it would afect the BP document ←
13:30:34 <Caroline_> q-
q- ←
13:30:45 <Caroline_> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
ack RiccardoAlbertoni ←
13:31:12 <Caroline_> RiccardoAlbertoni: I think it is important to BP document to refer to the vocabs documents
Riccardo Albertoni: I think it is important to BP document to refer to the vocabs documents ←
13:33:06 <adler1> q-
Steven Adler: q- ←
13:34:46 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:34:48 <PeterWinstanley_> I think that we should be using a pattern for the BP. My suggestion is something like the 'pedagogical pattern' as described in http://ifets.ieee.org/discussions/discuss_june2004.html
Peter Winstanley: I think that we should be using a pattern for the BP. My suggestion is something like the 'pedagogical pattern' as described in http://ifets.ieee.org/discussions/discuss_june2004.html ←
13:35:25 <laufer> may I speak
Carlos Laufer: may I speak ←
13:35:48 <PeterWinstanley_> q+
Peter Winstanley: q+ ←
13:36:39 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to laufer
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to laufer ←
13:37:28 <BernadetteLoscio> +1 to use a common example
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 to use a common example ←
13:37:52 <annette_g1> * there is already a pattern...
Annette Greiner: * there is already a pattern... ←
13:38:00 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:38:09 <laufer> q-
Carlos Laufer: q- ←
13:38:15 <annette_g1> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
13:38:57 <BernadetteLoscio> yes, we have a template
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes, we have a template ←
13:39:45 <PeterWinstanley_> I think we need to look at both patterns and anti-patterns (known bad practice)
Peter Winstanley: I think we need to look at both patterns and anti-patterns (known bad practice) ←
13:39:46 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to antoine
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to antoine ←
13:39:46 <BernadetteLoscio> this is the template: http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dwbp-20150224/#bp-template
Bernadette Farias Loscio: this is the template: http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dwbp-20150224/#bp-template ←
13:40:02 <Caroline_> I lost the webex I am sorry
I lost the webex I am sorry ←
13:40:14 <PeterWinstanley_> q+
Peter Winstanley: q+ ←
13:40:39 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:40:45 <Caroline_> Can somenos série?
Can somenos série? ←
13:41:25 <antoine> Shame on me, the pattern is in the document: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#bp-template
Antoine Isaac: Shame on me, the pattern is in the document: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#bp-template ←
13:41:32 <Caroline_> S/somenos/someone scribe
S/somenos/someone scribe ←
13:41:35 <annette_g1> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
13:41:41 <antoine> q-
Antoine Isaac: q- ←
13:42:48 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:42:56 <phila> ack b
Phil Archer: ack b ←
13:43:00 <phila> ack an
Phil Archer: ack an ←
13:43:06 <phila> ack p
Phil Archer: ack p ←
13:43:28 <newton> BernadetteLoscio: ... we are gonna work on the maturity model
Bernadette Farias Loscio: ... we are gonna work on the maturity model [ Scribe Assist by Newton Calegari ] ←
13:43:42 <newton> ... to have different maturity levels for who is going to use the BPs
Newton Calegari: ... to have different maturity levels for who is going to use the BPs ←
13:43:50 <Caroline_> I can not gel back no webex
I can not gel back no webex ←
13:44:09 <Caroline_> Thank you, Newton!
Thank you, Newton! ←
13:44:16 <newton> ... I'm not sure if there are other considerations to put in our template
Newton Calegari: ... I'm not sure if there are other considerations to put in our template ←
13:44:18 <Caroline_> Scribe: Newton
(Scribe set to Newton Calegari)
13:44:34 <newton> ... maybe PeterWinstanley_ could take a look and suggest something
... maybe PeterWinstanley_ could take a look and suggest something ←
13:44:44 <newton> adler1: I like the ideia
Steven Adler: I like the ideia ←
13:45:10 <phila> q+ to report on the SDW WG
Phil Archer: q+ to report on the SDW WG ←
13:45:17 <PeterWinstanley_> OK ... will do
Peter Winstanley: OK ... will do ←
13:45:24 <PeterWinstanley_> OK
Peter Winstanley: OK ←
13:45:30 <BernadetteLoscio> great!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: great! ←
13:45:34 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
13:45:37 <newton> ... the idea of improving our template is good
... the idea of improving our template is good ←
13:47:16 <phila> action: Winstanley to review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the BP
ACTION: Winstanley to review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the BP ←
13:47:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-184 - Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp [on Peter Winstanley - due 2015-07-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-184 - Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp [on Peter Winstanley - due 2015-07-17]. ←
13:47:18 <newton> adler1: PeterWinstanley_ should review the current template and possibly improve
Steven Adler: PeterWinstanley_ should review the current template and possibly improve ←
13:48:00 <BernadetteLoscio> good news!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: good news! ←
13:48:07 <adler1> +1 phila
Steven Adler: +1 phila ←
13:48:22 <BernadetteLoscio> :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: :) ←
13:48:31 <annette_g1> * yay us!
Annette Greiner: * yay us! ←
13:49:29 <newton> adler1: the group has to have a clearly idea on what to do before the next F2F
Steven Adler: the group has to have a clearly idea on what to do before the next F2F ←
13:49:31 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:50:09 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:50:55 <phila> ack p
Phil Archer: ack p ←
13:50:55 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to report on the SDW WG
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to report on the SDW WG ←
13:51:38 <newton> adler1: we need to have a deadline for publish our drafts
Steven Adler: we need to have a deadline for publish our drafts ←
13:51:58 <phila> q+ to answer steve - 2 iterations before end 2015
Phil Archer: q+ to answer steve - 2 iterations before end 2015 ←
13:52:33 <newton> BernadetteLoscio: I would like to propose two options: 1. editors need to review the timelines and propose a deadline
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I would like to propose two options: 1. editors need to review the timelines and propose a deadline ←
13:53:06 <newton> ... it's important to editor to suggest an agenda related to their document to work on F2F
... it's important to editor to suggest an agenda related to their document to work on F2F ←
13:54:05 <phila> ack p
Phil Archer: ack p ←
13:54:05 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to answer steve - 2 iterations before end 2015
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to answer steve - 2 iterations before end 2015 ←
13:55:02 <newton> phila: I hope to have 2 iterations of the documents between September and December
Phil Archer: I hope to have 2 iterations of the documents between September and December ←
13:55:12 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:55:26 <newton> ... a version in September as outcome of F2F
... a version in September as outcome of F2F ←
13:55:29 <phila> ack b
Phil Archer: ack b ←
13:55:33 <phila> q- a
Phil Archer: q- a ←
13:56:16 <newton> antoine: It will be good to have a new call for comments on October
Antoine Isaac: It will be good to have a new call for comments on October ←
13:57:08 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:57:14 <phila> ack ad
Phil Archer: ack ad ←
13:57:23 <newton> adler1: maybe is an opportunity to us to check what the organization is doing
Steven Adler: maybe is an opportunity to us to check what the organization is doing ←
13:58:29 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:58:53 <phila> ack p
Phil Archer: ack p ←
13:59:03 <phila> ack a
Phil Archer: ack a ←
13:59:19 <newton> phila: maybe release the document in the beginning of October
Phil Archer: maybe release the document in the beginning of October ←
14:00:08 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks Steve!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks Steve! ←
14:00:38 <annette_g1> good job, Steve!
Annette Greiner: good job, Steve! ←
14:00:42 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
14:00:49 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
14:00:59 <laufer> tnx, steve!
Carlos Laufer: tnx, steve! ←
14:01:10 <phila> Thanks all.
Phil Archer: Thanks all. ←
14:01:13 <EricKauz> thks
14:01:15 <laufer> bye all... nice weekend!!!
Carlos Laufer: bye all... nice weekend!!! ←
14:01:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> have all a good weekend!
Riccardo Albertoni: have all a good weekend! ←
14:01:16 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
14:01:18 <phila> See you in 2 weeks (I'm offline next week)
Phil Archer: See you in 2 weeks (I'm offline next week) ←
14:01:29 <annette_g1> bye!
Annette Greiner: bye! ←
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