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13:55:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
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13:55:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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13:55:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:55:52 <trackbot> Date: 27 February 2015
13:57:30 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started ←
13:57:38 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
13:57:45 <yaso1> Zakim, Caroline has Yaso
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline has Yaso ←
13:57:45 <yaso1> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:57:45 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it ←
13:58:11 <phila> yaso1 - did you see that hadley will be late
Phil Archer: yaso1 - did you see that hadley will be late ←
13:58:40 <phila> zakim, call phila-mobile
Phil Archer: zakim, call phila-mobile ←
13:58:40 <Zakim> ok, phila; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; the call is being made ←
13:58:42 <Zakim> +Phila
Zakim IRC Bot: +Phila ←
13:59:32 <Caroline> Hello!
Caroline Burle: Hello! ←
13:59:41 <Caroline> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Caroline Burle: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:59:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila ←
13:59:42 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso ←
13:59:56 <Caroline> I can scribe
Caroline Burle: I can scribe ←
14:00:30 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aaaa ←
14:00:39 <Caroline> Scribe: Caroline
(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)
14:00:42 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me
Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:00:42 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it ←
14:00:59 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aabb ←
14:01:05 <yaso1> Scribe: Caroline
14:02:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:02:24 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me ←
14:02:24 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
14:03:07 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.384.aacc ←
14:03:31 <annette_g> zakin, aacc is me
Annette Greiner: zakin, aacc is me ←
14:03:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:03:39 <annette_g> zakim, aacc is me
Annette Greiner: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:03:39 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g; got it ←
14:03:39 <deirdrelee> scribe: Caroline
14:03:50 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:03:50 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
14:04:08 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227
14:04:42 <deirdrelee> Proposed: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-20
PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-20 ←
14:04:49 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
14:04:51 <newton> \me hi
Newton Calegari: \me hi ←
14:04:59 <Eric_Kauz> +1
14:05:04 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
14:05:08 <yaso1> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
14:05:09 <Caroline> +1
+1 ←
14:05:09 <annette_g> +1
Annette Greiner: +1 ←
14:05:12 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:05:45 <deirdrelee> Resolved: Minutes approved
RESOLVED: Minutes approved ←
14:05:50 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aadd ←
14:05:58 <Caroline> Zakim, who is speaking?
Zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:06:10 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (55%), deirdrelee (24%), Phila (89%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (55%), deirdrelee (24%), Phila (89%) ←
14:06:15 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
14:06:26 <Caroline> Zakim, mute ericstephan
Zakim, mute ericstephan ←
14:06:26 <Zakim> ericstephan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should now be muted ←
14:06:29 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P15 is me
Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P15 is me ←
14:06:29 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
14:06:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, aadd is me
Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, aadd is me ←
14:06:48 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it ←
14:06:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:06:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb ←
14:06:54 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso ←
14:06:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1, ←
14:06:54 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot ←
14:07:00 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
14:07:01 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aabb is me
Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me ←
14:07:01 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it ←
14:07:07 <cgueret> zakim, ??P16 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P16 is me ←
14:07:08 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
14:07:12 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
14:07:12 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
14:07:15 <Zakim> +Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve ←
14:07:25 <newton> Zakim, who's speaking?
Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's speaking? ←
14:07:32 <Caroline> it is too much noisy
it is too much noisy ←
14:07:36 <Caroline> on the phone
on the phone ←
14:07:38 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (21%), deirdrelee (85%), Steve (33%)
Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (21%), deirdrelee (85%), Steve (33%) ←
14:08:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:08:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:08:13 <newton> Zakim, who's noisy?
Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's noisy? ←
14:08:18 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
14:08:18 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
14:08:21 <Caroline> too much noisy
too much noisy ←
14:08:24 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (42%), [IPcaller] (52%)
Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (42%), [IPcaller] (52%) ←
14:08:26 <Caroline> Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:08:26 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
14:08:29 <deirdrelee> please mute
Deirdre Lee: please mute ←
14:08:34 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:08:34 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was already muted, BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was already muted, BernadetteLoscio ←
14:08:45 <Caroline> Zakim, mute [IPcaller]
Zakim, mute [IPcaller] ←
14:08:45 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to [IPcaller] ←
14:08:45 <adler1> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-data-standards-steven-adler?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_LIKE
Steven Adler: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-data-standards-steven-adler?trk=hb_ntf_MEGAPHONE_ARTICLE_LIKE ←
14:08:46 <BernadetteLoscio> i just arrived :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i just arrived :) ←
14:08:49 <ericstephan> I saw it and read the article, really enjoyable.
Eric Stephan: I saw it and read the article, really enjoyable. ←
14:08:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:08:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted), ←
14:08:55 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a] ←
14:08:55 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso ←
14:08:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, yaso1, ←
14:08:55 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot ←
14:09:06 <Caroline> Zakim, Caroline has newton
Zakim, Caroline has newton ←
14:09:06 <Zakim> +newton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it ←
14:09:06 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:09:14 <Caroline> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
14:09:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> Zakim, who's speaking?
Riccardo Albertoni: Zakim, who's speaking? ←
14:09:21 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (22%), Steve (8%), [IPcaller.a] (82%)
Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 13 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (22%), Steve (8%), [IPcaller.a] (82%) ←
14:09:24 <Caroline> I canno hear anything but noisy
I canno hear anything but noisy ←
14:09:29 <Caroline> we are on mute here
we are on mute here ←
14:09:34 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (45%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (45%) ←
14:09:37 <newton> Zakim, mute [IPcaller.a]
Newton Calegari: Zakim, mute [IPcaller.a] ←
14:09:37 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should now be muted ←
14:09:43 <cgueret> better!
Christophe Gueret: better! ←
14:09:48 <Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (75%)
Zakim IRC Bot: riccardoAlbertoni, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (75%) ←
14:09:48 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy? ←
14:09:48 <Caroline> much better! :)
much better! :) ←
14:09:49 <BernadetteLoscio> im gonna disconnect
Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna disconnect ←
14:09:51 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:09:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline, Phila, ericstephan (muted), Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, annette_g, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, jerdeb, cgueret (muted), Steve, BernadetteLoscio (muted), ←
14:09:54 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a] (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a] (muted) ←
14:09:54 <Zakim> Caroline has newton
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has newton ←
14:09:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see guizzardi, cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see guizzardi, cgueret, adler1, jerdeb, newton, BernadetteLoscio, antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, annette_g, Caroline, ericstephan, Zakim, RRSAgent, ←
14:09:54 <Zakim> ... yaso1, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... yaso1, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot ←
14:09:59 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (24%)
Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (24%) ←
14:10:53 <Caroline> deirdrelee: we are talking about vocabs
Deirdre Lee: we are talking about vocabs ←
14:11:23 <Caroline> ... based on the BP documents we can see what are the requirements of the vocabs documents
... based on the BP documents we can see what are the requirements of the vocabs documents ←
14:11:32 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:11:40 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
14:11:43 <Caroline> ... let's hear from the editors of each of documents
... let's hear from the editors of each of documents ←
14:11:53 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
14:11:54 <Caroline> Zakim, unmute ericstephan
Zakim, unmute ericstephan ←
14:11:55 <Zakim> ericstephan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should no longer be muted ←
14:11:56 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
14:12:25 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think we should talk about separating them or combining them
Eric Stephan: I think we should talk about separating them or combining them ←
14:12:54 <Caroline> ... should we talk about where we are moving or about hthe content?
... should we talk about where we are moving or about hthe content? ←
14:13:02 <Caroline> deirdrelee: in general would be helpful
Deirdre Lee: in general would be helpful ←
14:13:17 <ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#requirements-for-data-usage-description-vocabulary
Eric Stephan: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html#requirements-for-data-usage-description-vocabulary ←
14:13:19 <Caroline> ericstephan: BernadetteLoscio and I are working on the backgroud of the data usage vocabulary
Eric Stephan: BernadetteLoscio and I are working on the backgroud of the data usage vocabulary ←
14:13:48 <Caroline> ... the use case document helped regarding the data usage vocab and some use cases really helped
... the use case document helped regarding the data usage vocab and some use cases really helped ←
14:13:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:13:57 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule
Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule ←
14:13:59 <Caroline> ... there are some motivational use cases
... there are some motivational use cases ←
14:14:18 <Caroline> ... BernadetteLoscio and I put together a schedule so we can move towardss and propose vocabs
... BernadetteLoscio and I put together a schedule so we can move towardss and propose vocabs ←
14:14:34 <BernadetteLoscio> no! you said everything :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: no! you said everything :) ←
14:14:35 <Caroline> Zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:14:35 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline, I do not know which phone connection belongs to BernadetteLoscio ←
14:15:01 <ericstephan> http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/core/
Eric Stephan: http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/core/ ←
14:15:05 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
14:15:25 <Caroline> ericstephan: we would like to wirte the document in a style similar to ??
Eric Stephan: we would like to wirte the document in a style similar to hydra vocabulary ←
14:15:42 <deirdrelee> s/??/hydra vocabulary
14:15:54 <Caroline> ... one of the questions is if we should use DCAT or not
... one of the questions is if we should use DCAT or not ←
14:16:01 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
14:16:04 <Caroline> ... it makes a lot of sense to start with it
... it makes a lot of sense to start with it ←
14:16:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
14:16:19 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller.a is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller.a is BernadetteLoscio ←
14:16:19 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
14:16:21 <Caroline> ... we are gathering weekly or every two weeks
... we are gathering weekly or every two weeks ←
14:16:31 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
14:16:31 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
14:16:50 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
14:16:50 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
14:17:43 <Caroline> Zakim, who is talking?
Zakim, who is talking? ←
14:17:56 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (100%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (100%) ←
14:18:05 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
14:18:09 <Caroline> ericstephan: it should be possible to track data on the web
Eric Stephan: it should be possible to track data on the web ←
14:18:26 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227
Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150227 ←
14:18:34 <Caroline> .... we would like to find some illustrative scenarios
.... we would like to find some illustrative scenarios ←
14:18:40 <Caroline> ... to use as examples
... to use as examples ←
14:19:03 <Caroline> ... once we come up with those we want to bring them back to the WG
... once we come up with those we want to bring them back to the WG ←
14:19:34 <Caroline> ... we are defining the model
... we are defining the model ←
14:20:14 <Caroline> ... about the data quality we have talked with that team and they made requirements
... about the data quality we have talked with that team and they made requirements ←
14:20:44 <Caroline> ... there are nuances in data usage that we really need to explore as a WG
... there are nuances in data usage that we really need to explore as a WG ←
14:21:02 <BernadetteLoscio> Thanks Eric!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thanks Eric! ←
14:21:06 <Caroline> ... the vocabs may be together
... the vocabs may be together ←
14:21:36 <Caroline> deirdrelee: the agenda is going forward
Deirdre Lee: the agenda is going forward ←
14:22:15 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think the BP document did a great job and it is helpful for the vocabs teams
Eric Stephan: I think the BP document did a great job and it is helpful for the vocabs teams ←
14:22:36 <Caroline> deirdrelee: is there any comments about the vocabs?
Deirdre Lee: is there any comments about the vocabs? ←
14:22:42 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: chair
Hadley Beeman: chair ←
14:23:06 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: I would like to talk about the data quality vocab
Hadley Beeman: I would like to talk about the data quality vocab ←
14:24:09 <Caroline> antoine: we are paused on the data quality vocabulary, it would be good to find more people to work on it
Antoine Isaac: we are paused on the data quality vocabulary, it would be good to find more people to work on it ←
14:24:49 <Caroline> ... I prefer that data usage vocabulary will not be stucked by the data quality vocabulary
... I prefer that data usage vocabulary will not be stucked by the data quality vocabulary ←
14:25:12 <Caroline> ... in the past month we have done some requirements
... in the past month we have done some requirements ←
14:25:53 <Caroline> ... the quality vocab should allow to say that data is complete
... the quality vocab should allow to say that data is complete ←
14:26:23 <Caroline> ... on the other hand there are a lot contributions from the research community
... on the other hand there are a lot contributions from the research community ←
14:26:35 <Caroline> ... I am not sure it is an ideal scenario
... I am not sure it is an ideal scenario ←
14:26:46 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_notes#Links.2C_related_work
Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_notes#Links.2C_related_work ←
14:27:16 <Caroline> ... this link shows that there is a lot to be done
... this link shows that there is a lot to be done ←
14:27:48 <Caroline> ... the next point was about keeping the vocabs separates
... the next point was about keeping the vocabs separates ←
14:28:05 <Caroline> ... I prefer that data usage vocb progress
... I prefer that data usage vocb progress ←
14:28:12 <Caroline> scribe: yaso
(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)
14:28:33 <ericstephan> +1 @antoine
Eric Stephan: +1 @antoine ←
14:29:02 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to antoine on keeping the vocabularies separated and DCAT extension
Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to antoine on keeping the vocabularies separated and DCAT extension ←
14:29:03 <yaso1> antoine: I think this is clearly something that we could follow
Antoine Isaac: I think this is clearly something that we could follow ←
14:29:12 <cgueret> +1 too
Christophe Gueret: +1 too ←
14:29:39 <yaso1> q?
q? ←
14:29:55 <yaso1> zakim, who's speaking:
zakim, who's speaking: ←
14:29:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's speaking:', yaso1
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's speaking:', yaso1 ←
14:30:06 <yaso1> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:30:18 <Zakim> yaso1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: annette_g (5%), antoine (5%), HadleyBeeman (53%)
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: annette_g (5%), antoine (5%), HadleyBeeman (53%) ←
14:30:32 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: you think that would be able to handle the requirements?
Hadley Beeman: you think that would be able to handle the requirements? ←
14:30:38 <yaso1> tks, hadleybeeman
tks, hadleybeeman ←
14:32:02 <hadleybeeman> q+ phil
Hadley Beeman: q+ phil ←
14:32:04 <hadleybeeman> ack phil
Hadley Beeman: ack phil ←
14:32:22 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
14:32:33 <yaso1> Phil: DCAT comes up in conversation a lot
Phil Archer: DCAT comes up in conversation a lot ←
14:32:47 <yaso1> scribe: Caroline
(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)
14:32:50 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P27 is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P27 is me ←
14:32:50 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←
14:33:10 <Caroline> Phil: I have talked with Makx about DCAT
Phil Archer: I have talked with Makx about DCAT ←
14:33:23 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
14:33:29 <hadleybeeman> q+ to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues
Hadley Beeman: q+ to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues ←
14:33:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:33:57 <Caroline> ... when do we get to write both vocabs into the documents is the point that we must decide
... when do we get to write both vocabs into the documents is the point that we must decide ←
14:34:56 <Caroline> ... we only got 2 documents published. You can maintain separatedly
... we only got 2 documents published. You can maintain separatedly ←
14:35:27 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
14:35:32 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
14:35:33 <Caroline> ... I prefer to have only one document if the content is related
... I prefer to have only one document if the content is related ←
14:35:55 <deirdrelee> q+ to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec
Deirdre Lee: q+ to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec ←
14:36:06 <hadleybeeman> q- later
Hadley Beeman: q- later ←
14:36:30 <Caroline> ... two separately documents are fine, but if we think we should reunite them we can
... two separately documents are fine, but if we think we should reunite them we can ←
14:36:57 <Caroline> ... if we think we are going to end up with one start with one, but if we think we are ending up with two,start with two
... if we think we are going to end up with one start with one, but if we think we are ending up with two,start with two ←
14:37:00 <hadleybeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
14:37:29 <Caroline> ericstephan: I think it does make sense keep it separately while we are doing investigation
Eric Stephan: I think it does make sense keep it separately while we are doing investigation ←
14:37:56 <Caroline> ... about DCAT it is there on the background
... about DCAT it is there on the background ←
14:38:08 <adler1> I thought we had already agreed to build a DCAT+
Steven Adler: I thought we had already agreed to build a DCAT+ ←
14:38:11 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes! ←
14:38:18 <Caroline> s/proces/process
s/proces/process (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:38:33 <hadleybeeman> @adler1: I think this discussion is checking on that
Hadley Beeman: @adler1: I think this discussion is checking on that ←
14:38:36 <Caroline> ... I am just holding that until we go to the requirements proces
... I am just holding that until we go to the requirements proces ←
14:38:36 <Caroline> ... we may out them together at some point
... we may out them together at some point ←
14:38:44 <Caroline> antoine: when do we need to know if we are going to merge the documents?
Antoine Isaac: when do we need to know if we are going to merge the documents? ←
14:38:55 <ericstephan> I would hope that we can have public working drafts evolve separately
Eric Stephan: I would hope that we can have public working drafts evolve separately ←
14:38:59 <Caroline> phil: you could publish separatedly and then merge
Phil Archer: you could publish separatedly and then merge ←
14:39:09 <BernadetteLoscio> +1 to Eric
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 to Eric ←
14:39:12 <Caroline> ... nothing desapears in W3C process
... nothing desapears in W3C process ←
14:39:19 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
14:39:21 <Caroline> ... you have complete flexibility
... you have complete flexibility ←
14:41:26 <Caroline> antoine: if we are talking about one document, how would that work in terms of geting them together? How should we coordinate it?
Eric Stephan: if we are talking about one document, how would that work in terms of geting them together? How should we coordinate it? ←
14:41:34 <antoine> s/antoine/ericstephan
14:42:03 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: there is no W3C opinion on this. I think is our interest to make one document
Hadley Beeman: there is no W3C opinion on this. I think is our interest to make one document ←
14:42:04 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
14:42:06 <annette_g> q+
Annette Greiner: q+ ←
14:42:19 <Caroline> ... if it make senses regarding the content
... if it make senses regarding the content ←
14:42:24 <hadleybeeman> ack antoine
Hadley Beeman: ack antoine ←
14:43:21 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: you may prepare the document anyway you like and send it to the WG
Hadley Beeman: you may prepare the document anyway you like and send it to the WG ←
14:43:32 <Caroline> antoine: I am concerned about different styles of writing
Antoine Isaac: I am concerned about different styles of writing ←
14:43:44 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: for the FWD would be okay
Hadley Beeman: for the FWD would be okay ←
14:43:52 <Caroline> ... if it is writen clearly
... if it is writen clearly ←
14:43:57 <hadleybeeman> ack d
Hadley Beeman: ack d ←
14:43:57 <Zakim> deirdrelee, you wanted to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec
Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, you wanted to ask phil about document versioning if the data quality & usage vocabs are Notes, rather than Rec ←
14:44:06 <hadleybeeman> q- later
Hadley Beeman: q- later ←
14:44:19 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:44:20 <annette_g> * I hear her
Annette Greiner: * I hear her ←
14:44:31 <Caroline> deirdrelee: antoine mentioned the two vocabs weather should be together or not
Deirdre Lee: antoine mentioned the two vocabs weather should be together or not ←
14:44:39 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
14:44:55 <Caroline> deirdrelee: from a process point of view, DCAT is a recommendation
Deirdre Lee: from a process point of view, DCAT is a recommendation ←
14:45:11 <Caroline> ... data usage and data quality vocabs would be notes of this WG
... data usage and data quality vocabs would be notes of this WG ←
14:45:16 <ericstephan> Should we make DCAT a recommendation from our working group?
Eric Stephan: Should we make DCAT a recommendation from our working group? ←
14:46:08 <Caroline> phila: there could be a document (or two) that defines a number of extensions of DCAT. The fact that DCAT is a recommendation is not affect for that
Phil Archer: there could be a document (or two) that defines a number of extensions of DCAT. The fact that DCAT is a recommendation is not affect for that ←
14:46:31 <Caroline> ... unless that something comes up in our discussion such as we would like to replace something in DCAT
... unless that something comes up in our discussion such as we would like to replace something in DCAT ←
14:46:33 <hadleybeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:46:48 <Caroline> ... data vocabs can be a note or recommendation
... data vocabs can be a note or recommendation ←
14:47:12 <Caroline> deirdrelee: antoine, I am happy to help as a contributor of data quality vocab
Deirdre Lee: antoine, I am happy to help as a contributor of data quality vocab ←
14:47:24 <antoine> great :-)
Antoine Isaac: great :-) ←
14:48:17 <Caroline> ... it is important that we get started on the vocabulary
... it is important that we get started on the vocabulary ←
14:48:27 <hadleybeeman> ack adl
Hadley Beeman: ack adl ←
14:48:33 <hadleybeeman> ack adler
Hadley Beeman: ack adler ←
14:48:39 <hadleybeeman> ack adler
Hadley Beeman: ack adler ←
14:48:48 <Caroline> adler1: one of my colleagues from IBM comment abou the datasets
Steven Adler: one of my colleagues from IBM comment abou the datasets ←
14:48:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> I agree with deirdrelee and I am willing in helping as well :)
Riccardo Albertoni: I agree with deirdrelee and I am willing in helping as well :) ←
14:49:20 <ericstephan> good point adler1
Eric Stephan: good point adler1 ←
14:49:27 <hadleybeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:49:28 <Caroline> ... we mentioned that data should be discoverable but I am not sure we adressed that about vocabularies
... we mentioned that data should be discoverable but I am not sure we adressed that about vocabularies ←
14:49:42 <Caroline> ... any comments on that?
... any comments on that? ←
14:49:43 <deirdrelee> like SEO for data?
Deirdre Lee: like SEO for data? ←
14:50:00 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: the set of requirements on vacbularies is definetly a good point
Hadley Beeman: the set of requirements on vacbularies is definetly a good point ←
14:50:03 <hadleybeeman> ack annette
Hadley Beeman: ack annette ←
14:50:18 <Caroline> annette_g: about the vocabs should be together or separate
Annette Greiner: about the vocabs should be together or separate ←
14:50:54 <Caroline> ... they could be kept separeted because they are different use cases
... they could be kept separeted because they are different use cases ←
14:51:33 <ericstephan> annette_g: I'd be very interested in hearing about your perspective further (visualization scenario)
Annette Greiner: I'd be very interested in hearing about your perspective further (visualization scenario) [ Scribe Assist by Eric Stephan ] ←
14:51:50 <Caroline> ... I thikn would be different and I would like to know how would people actually use that vocsb
... I thikn would be different and I would like to know how would people actually use that vocab ←
14:52:00 <Caroline> s/vocsb/vocab
14:52:12 <cgueret> ok
Christophe Gueret: ok ←
14:52:19 <cgueret> I'd suggest to use provo for this
Christophe Gueret: I'd suggest to use provo for this ←
14:52:30 <hadleybeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:52:51 <ericstephan> BernadetteLoscio has also a application vocabulary in the pipeline that we may adopt as well.
Eric Stephan: BernadetteLoscio has also a application vocabulary in the pipeline that we may adopt as well. ←
14:53:00 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: antoine, you started talking about time a the need people to help
Hadley Beeman: antoine, you started talking about time a the need people to help ←
14:53:34 <Caroline> antoine: I am not able to be an editor alone
Antoine Isaac: I am not able to be an editor alone ←
14:53:48 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
14:53:57 <Caroline> ... before March 23 I can use deirdrelee helps
... before March 23 I can use deirdrelee helps ←
14:54:04 <Caroline> s/hepls/hepl
s/hepls/hepl (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:54:12 <Caroline> s/hepl/help
s/hepl/help (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:54:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:54:46 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: keep us posted if you need other editor or more contributors
Hadley Beeman: keep us posted if you need other editor or more contributors ←
14:55:01 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
14:55:27 <Caroline> antoine: Bart and I will not be able to make to the F2F
Antoine Isaac: Bart and I will not be able to make to the F2F ←
14:55:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:55:44 <Caroline> ... it would be important to have someone for that discussion on there
... it would be important to have someone for that discussion on there ←
14:56:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+
Riccardo Albertoni: q+ ←
14:56:23 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: we may adopt tecnhologies from other contexts such as DCAT
Hadley Beeman: we may adopt tecnhologies from other contexts such as DCAT ←
14:56:49 <Caroline> ... the Government Linked Data WG had recommendations used from other works, which is useful in certain use cases
... the Government Linked Data WG had recommendations used from other works, which is useful in certain use cases ←
14:57:04 <hadleybeeman> ack riccardo
Hadley Beeman: ack riccardo ←
14:57:07 <hadleybeeman> ack em
Hadley Beeman: ack em ←
14:57:09 <hadleybeeman> ack me
Hadley Beeman: ack me ←
14:57:09 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues
Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to aks questions about Antoine's first two points: about requirements from the formal research community, and the timing & people issues ←
14:57:17 <Caroline> riccardoAlbertoni: about the data wuality vocab I am willing to contritbute
Riccardo Albertoni: about the data wuality vocab I am willing to contritbute ←
14:57:48 <Caroline> ... we should at least define requirements before the f2f
... we should at least define requirements before the f2f ←
14:58:24 <guizzardi> I would also be very willing to contribute to the Data Quality Work
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I would also be very willing to contribute to the Data Quality Work ←
14:58:25 <Caroline> hadleybeeman: we have 5 weeks until f2f
Hadley Beeman: we have 5 weeks until f2f ←
14:58:42 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule ←
14:58:50 <jerdeb> \me I can help riccardo as well
Jeremy Debattista: \me I can help riccardo as well ←
14:58:53 <Caroline> ... data usage editors came up with
... data usage editors came up with ←
14:59:03 <antoine> I have marked it as action point for next week :-)
Antoine Isaac: I have marked it as action point for next week :-) ←
14:59:41 <Caroline> ... data should be findable for everyone
... data should be findable for everyone ←
14:59:50 <Caroline> Zakim, who is speaking?
Zakim, who is speaking? ←
15:00:01 <Zakim> Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (28%), ericstephan (33%), Steve (98%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline (28%), ericstephan (33%), Steve (98%) ←
15:00:13 <hadleybeeman> zakim, steve is adler1
Hadley Beeman: zakim, steve is adler1 ←
15:00:13 <Zakim> +adler1; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it ←
15:00:13 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
15:00:32 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
15:00:39 <ericstephan> zakim, mute me
Eric Stephan: zakim, mute me ←
15:00:39 <Zakim> ericstephan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should now be muted ←
15:00:42 <hadleybeeman> zakim, close the queue
Hadley Beeman: zakim, close the queue ←
15:00:42 <Zakim> ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed ←
15:00:57 <Caroline> adler1: there are so much data
Steven Adler: there are so much data ←
15:01:09 <Caroline> ... and a lot of time people are unaware of it
... and a lot of time people are unaware of it ←
15:01:22 <hadleybeeman> ack deirdre
Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre ←
15:01:30 <ericstephan> data usage can help extend discoverability to more of a peer to peer model Steve
Eric Stephan: data usage can help extend discoverability to more of a peer to peer model Steve ←
15:02:26 <hadleybeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
15:02:28 <ericstephan> zakim, unmute me
Eric Stephan: zakim, unmute me ←
15:02:28 <Zakim> ericstephan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ericstephan should no longer be muted ←
15:03:09 <deirdrelee> i was talking to a journalist last week, and she said that if she can find information quicker on google than on an open data portal, she will continue to use data
Deirdre Lee: i was talking to a journalist last week, and she said that if she can find information quicker on google than on an open data portal, she will continue to use data ←
15:03:30 <Caroline> ericstephan: it is important keep the conversation about data on the web and the different vocabularies
Eric Stephan: it is important keep the conversation about data on the web and the different vocabularies ←
15:03:38 <MTCarrasco> I cannot connect with the telephone
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I cannot connect with the telephone ←
15:03:53 <deirdrelee> so it begs the question of what is the goal of open data portals - just data discoverability or other functions, like how to improve open data
Deirdre Lee: so it begs the question of what is the goal of open data portals - just data discoverability or other functions, like how to improve open data ←
15:03:55 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: the meeting started an hour ago!
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the meeting started an hour ago! ←
15:04:02 <Caroline> thank you!
thank you! ←
15:04:04 <Caroline> bye!
bye! ←
15:04:07 <BernadetteLoscio> Thank you!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thank you! ←
15:04:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye !
Riccardo Albertoni: bye ! ←
15:04:08 <yaso1> thank you, Hadley!
Yaso Córdova: thank you, Hadley! ←
15:04:09 <guizzardi> thanks, bye
Giancarlo Guizzardi: thanks, bye ←
15:04:10 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
15:04:10 <jerdeb> bye
Jeremy Debattista: bye ←
15:04:10 <CarlosIglesias> bue!
Carlos Iglesias: bue! ←
15:04:11 <Zakim> -adler1
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15:04:11 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
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15:04:12 <BernadetteLoscio> bye!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye! ←
15:04:13 <Zakim> -ericstephan
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15:04:13 <Zakim> -Phila
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15:04:13 <Zakim> -annette_g
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15:04:14 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
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15:04:15 <yaso1> See you, bye!
Yaso Córdova: See you, bye! ←
15:04:16 <Zakim> -jerdeb
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15:04:17 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
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15:04:17 <annette_g> bye all!
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15:04:17 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
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15:04:23 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni
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15:04:31 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
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15:06:57 <Zakim> -cgueret
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15:11:57 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Caroline, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM
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15:11:59 <Zakim> Attendees were Yaso, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, +1.510.384.aacc, annette_g, antoine, +39.349.096.aadd, jerdeb, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Yaso, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, ericstephan, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, +1.510.384.aacc, annette_g, antoine, +39.349.096.aadd, jerdeb, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, ←
15:12:00 <Zakim> ... cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, newton, HadleyBeeman, CarlosIglesias, [IPcaller], adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cgueret, BernadetteLoscio, newton, HadleyBeeman, CarlosIglesias, [IPcaller], adler1 ←
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