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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 20 February 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150220
Seen
Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Flavio Yanai, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Jeremy Debattista, Joao Almeida, Lewis Mcgibbney, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
Guests
Newton Calegari
Scribe
Joao Almeida
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-13 link
  2. BP Document to FPWD link
Topics
13:42:45 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/02/20-dwbp-irc

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13:42:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351

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13:42:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP

13:42:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 18 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 18 minutes

13:42:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:42:50 <trackbot> Date: 20 February 2015
13:43:06 <deirdrelee> rrsagent, make logs public

Deirdre Lee: rrsagent, make logs public

13:43:47 <deirdrelee> hi hadley

Deirdre Lee: hi hadley

13:54:10 <deirdrelee> hi yaso and Caroline

(No events recorded for 10 minutes)

Deirdre Lee: hi yaso and Caroline

13:54:10 <deirdrelee> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:54:28 <Caroline_> Hello! How are you?

Caroline Burle: Hello! How are you?

13:55:10 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

13:55:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:55:28 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me

13:55:28 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

13:56:02 <deirdrelee> I'm good :)

Deirdre Lee: I'm good :)

13:56:28 <yaso1> Hi Derdre! Hi Carol

Yaso Córdova: Hi Derdre! Hi Carol

13:57:41 <phila> rrsagent, make lp

Phil Archer: rrsagent, make lp

13:57:41 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make lp', phila.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make lp', phila. Try /msg RRSAgent help

13:58:01 <deirdrelee> hi phila!

Deirdre Lee: hi phila!

13:58:28 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp

13:58:28 <Zakim> ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started

13:58:46 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:59:02 <phila> zakim, call phila-mobile

Phil Archer: zakim, call phila-mobile

13:59:02 <Zakim> ok, phila; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; the call is being made

13:59:04 <Zakim> +Phila

Zakim IRC Bot: +Phila

13:59:42 <deirdrelee> you can't hear me then...

Deirdre Lee: you can't hear me then...

13:59:44 <deirdrelee> i'm here!

Deirdre Lee: i'm here!

14:00:27 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aaaa

14:00:34 <Zakim> +Reinaldo

Zakim IRC Bot: +Reinaldo

14:00:44 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.384.aabb

14:00:45 <Caroline_> Zakim, Reinaldo is Caroline_

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Reinaldo is Caroline_

14:00:45 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it

14:00:53 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton

14:00:53 <Zakim> +newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it

14:01:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:01:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, Caroline_, +1.510.384.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, +1.509.554.aaaa, Caroline_, +1.510.384.aabb

14:01:06 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:01:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:01:13 <Zakim> + +1.626.487.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.626.487.aacc

14:01:19 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me

Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me

14:01:19 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it

14:01:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:01:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

14:01:38 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

14:01:45 <gatemezi> hi all .. It seems that the link of the agenda is for last week

Ghislain Atemezing: hi all .. It seems that the link of the agenda is for last week

14:02:09 <hadleybeeman> present+ lewis

Hadley Beeman: present+ lewis

14:02:18 <yaso1> Carnival is over, the year has finally begin in brazil!

Yaso Córdova: Carnival is over, the year has finally begin in brazil!

14:02:39 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aadd

14:02:42 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:02:48 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:02:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, +1.510.384.aabb, +1.626.487.aacc, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.557.aadd, ??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, +1.510.384.aabb, +1.626.487.aacc, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.557.aadd, ??P19

14:02:51 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:02:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:03:20 <deirdrelee> zakim, aabb is annette

Deirdre Lee: zakim, aabb is annette

14:03:20 <Zakim> +annette; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +annette; got it

14:03:25 <Zakim> -??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P19

14:03:38 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:03:43 <deirdrelee> zakim, aacc is lewis

Deirdre Lee: zakim, aacc is lewis

14:03:44 <Zakim> +lewis; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +lewis; got it

14:03:48 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:03:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.557.aadd, ??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.557.aadd, ??P19

14:03:50 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:03:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent,

14:03:50 <Zakim> ... deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:03:55 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aadd is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aadd is me

14:03:55 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it

14:03:56 <AdrianoC> Zakim, ??P19 is AdrianoC

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, ??P19 is AdrianoC

14:03:57 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it

14:04:06 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

14:04:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, AdrianoC

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, AdrianoC

14:04:07 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:04:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, newton, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, annette, phila, Caroline_, yaso1, Zakim, RRSAgent,

14:04:08 <Zakim> ... deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... deirdrelee, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:04:14 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aaee

14:04:21 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can scribe

Joao Almeida: I can scribe

14:04:34 <deirdrelee> scribe: JoaoPauloAlmeida

(Scribe set to Joao Almeida)

14:04:40 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aaee is me

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aaee is me

14:04:40 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

14:04:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:05:00 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me

14:05:00 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

14:05:08 <Zakim> +??P26

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26

14:05:11 <laufer> Zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, mute me

14:05:11 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:05:14 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150220
14:05:20 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P26 is me

Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P26 is me

14:05:20 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it

14:05:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PROPOSED: Approve last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-13

PROPOSED: Approve last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-13

14:05:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:05:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise?

Zakim, who is making noise?

14:06:11 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (31%), HadleyBeeman (4%), AdrianoC (18%), [IPcaller] (8%)

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (31%), HadleyBeeman (4%), AdrianoC (18%), [IPcaller] (8%)

14:06:15 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:06:16 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:06:17 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:06:21 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:06:22 <annette> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:06:23 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:06:33 <Caroline_> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

14:06:37 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> 0 was not there

0 was not there

14:06:39 <deirdrelee> Lewis: +1

Lewis Mcgibbney: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

14:06:43 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> RESOLVED: Approve last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-13

RESOLVED: Approve last week’s minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-13

14:07:02 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> TOPIC: Finalize locations of F2F meeting in April

1. Finalize locations of F2F meeting in April

14:07:34 <annette> *Austin, TX

Annette Greiner: *Austin, TX

14:07:34 <ericstephan> I thought it was Lisbon

Eric Stephan: I thought it was Lisbon

14:07:47 <laufer> Lisbon

Carlos Laufer: Lisbon

14:08:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: two places are currently suggested (London and Austin, TX)

Deirdre Lee: two places are currently suggested (London and Austin, TX)

14:08:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: The one in Austin, TX aligned with Apachecon

Deirdre Lee: The one in Austin, TX aligned with Apachecon

14:09:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Annette: Details are still to be settled concerning alignment with Apachecon

Annette Greiner: Details are still to be settled concerning alignment with Apachecon

14:09:41 <yaso> Zakim, mute me

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, mute me

14:09:41 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

14:09:48 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:09:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

14:10:04 <hadleybeeman> q+ phila

Hadley Beeman: q+ phila

14:10:16 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is phila

Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is phila

14:10:16 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I do not recognize a party named '[ipcaller]'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I do not recognize a party named '[ipcaller]'

14:10:19 <Caroline_> I am not sure if it is better to the Brazilians to go to Austin or London...

Caroline Burle: I am not sure if it is better to the Brazilians to go to Austin or London...

14:10:28 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

14:10:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, laufer (muted), jerdeb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Phila, ericstephan, Caroline_, annette, lewis, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, laufer (muted), jerdeb

14:10:31 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:10:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see yaso, newton, jerdeb, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, Annette, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see yaso, newton, jerdeb, AdrianoC, riccardoAlbertoni, Eric_Kauz, laufer, ericstephan, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, Annette, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee,

14:10:31 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

14:10:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:10:35 <yaso> Zakim, IPcaller is yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, IPcaller is yaso

14:10:35 <Zakim> +yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it

14:10:40 <yaso> zakim, mute me

Yaso Córdova: zakim, mute me

14:10:40 <Zakim> yaso should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: yaso should now be muted

14:10:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> lewis: Not clear if there will be costs for using the venue

Lewis Mcgibbney: Not clear if there will be costs for using the venue

14:11:13 <hadleybeeman> ack phila

Hadley Beeman: ack phila

14:11:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: 20 is probably the upper limit of the number of people that will be going

Phil Archer: 20 is probably the upper limit of the number of people that will be going

14:11:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: dates are fixed, because of w3c constraints

Phil Archer: dates are fixed, because of w3c constraints

14:12:35 <yaso> I think that for the brazilians that are funded by nicbr there is no difference between going to US or Europe

Yaso Córdova: I think that for the brazilians that are funded by nicbr there is no difference between going to US or Europe

14:12:55 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150220

Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150220

14:13:22 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: wrote to all European members and from all European members that can travel at all, ... and concluded it makes more sense to host the European part of the meeting in London

Phil Archer: wrote to all European members and from all European members that can travel at all, ... and concluded it makes more sense to host the European part of the meeting in London

14:14:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: meeting can start at 6 am in Texas, if it starts later in London

Phil Archer: meeting can start at 6 am in Texas, if it starts later in London

14:14:32 <gatemezi> Thanks hadleybeeman

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks hadleybeeman

14:14:43 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: asks Lewis if tee/coffee/water costs will be provided in Apachecon

Phil Archer: asks Lewis if tee/coffee/water costs will be provided in Apachecon

14:14:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Lewis: should not be a problem

Lewis Mcgibbney: should not be a problem

14:15:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Lewis: in terms of colocating, there is no problem with resources

Lewis Mcgibbney: in terms of colocating, there is no problem with resources

14:15:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Lewis: thinks costs can be absorved

Lewis Mcgibbney: thinks costs can be absorved

14:16:02 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:16:32 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: W3C can help if necessary

Phil Archer: W3C can help if necessary

14:16:43 <Zakim> -AdrianoC

Zakim IRC Bot: -AdrianoC

14:17:05 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

14:17:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: Ipswich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipswich) not London

Phil Archer: Ipswich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipswich) not London

14:17:28 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:17:40 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (5%), lewis (90%)

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (5%), lewis (90%)

14:17:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Ericstephan: will there be support for video conference?

Eric Stephan: will there be support for video conference?

14:18:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Lewis: if we have a projector and skype we are good to go.

Lewis Mcgibbney: if we have a projector and skype we are good to go.

14:18:39 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

14:18:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Ericstephan: can help secure a projector if needed

Eric Stephan: can help secure a projector if needed

14:19:05 <hadleybeeman> ack deirdre

Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre

14:19:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdrelee: might be handy to arrange an extra laptop

Deirdre Lee: might be handy to arrange an extra laptop

14:19:25 <ericstephan> good point

Eric Stephan: good point

14:19:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... than can be used for skype

... than can be used for skype

14:19:49 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:20:12 <AdrianoC> Zakim, ??P19 is AdrianoC

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, ??P19 is AdrianoC

14:20:12 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC; got it

14:21:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: f2f meeting in 13-14 April, two locations, Austin, TX and Ipswich

Deirdre Lee: f2f meeting in 13-14 April, two locations, Austin, TX and Ipswich

14:21:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: clarifies that he was assuming that Brazilian members would go to Austin, TX

Phil Archer: clarifies that he was assuming that Brazilian members would go to Austin, TX

14:22:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: main center of gravity will be in Austin, TX

Phil Archer: main center of gravity will be in Austin, TX

14:22:38 <Caroline_> I can not talk for all the Brazilians, but for us from NIC.br should be fine

Caroline Burle: I can not talk for all the Brazilians, but for us from NIC.br should be fine

14:23:10 <deirdrelee> Q?

Deirdre Lee: Q?

14:23:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: if there are any significant costs to go to Austin, TX (instead of the UK), Brazilian folks should signal

Deirdre Lee: if there are any significant costs to go to Austin, TX (instead of the UK), Brazilian folks should signal

14:23:45 <deirdrelee> Topic: Vote on publication of the FPWD of the BP Document

2. Vote on publication of the FPWD of the BP Document

14:24:12 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> deirdreelee: are we ready to go ahead with the vote as planned?

Deirdre Lee: are we ready to go ahead with the vote as planned?

14:24:22 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:24:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... adressing Caroline

... addressing Caroline

14:24:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/adressing/addressing
14:24:47 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline: Bernadette regrets not being able to participate

Caroline Burle: Bernadette regrets not being able to participate

14:25:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline: together with Newton agrees we can vote

Caroline Burle: together with Newton agrees we can vote

14:26:21 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PROPOSED: BP Document to FPWD

PROPOSED: BP Document to FPWD

14:26:21 <Caroline_> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Caroline Burle: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:26:43 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

+1

14:26:44 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:26:46 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:26:47 <ericstephan> +1+1 (I am voting with both hands)

Eric Stephan: +1+1 (I am voting with both hands)

14:26:48 <jerdeb> +1

Jeremy Debattista: +1

14:26:48 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:26:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

14:26:49 <AdrianoC> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:26:51 <Caroline_> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

14:26:52 <flavio> +1

Flavio Yanai: +1

14:26:54 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:27:00 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

14:27:03 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:27:10 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:27:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Lewis: how is the process for subsequent versions? timeline, etc.

Lewis Mcgibbney: how is the process for subsequent versions? timeline, etc.

14:27:54 <Annette> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:27:55 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable

14:28:04 <deirdrelee> lewis +1

Deirdre Lee: lewis +1

14:28:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> RESOLVED: BP Document to FPWD

RESOLVED: BP Document to FPWD

14:28:51 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: will take the version of the document and put it into TR space

Phil Archer: will take the version of the document and put it into TR space

14:29:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: all members will get an e-mail through the list

Phil Archer: all members will get an e-mail through the list

14:29:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... as part of the IP process

... as part of the IP process

14:30:13 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> .. to ensure the legal process is fine

.. to ensure the legal process is fine

14:30:22 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:30:45 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... and we work on the next version

... and we work on the next version

14:31:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdrelee: congrats to all involved

Deirdre Lee: congrats to all involved

14:31:06 <ericstephan>  virtual confetti flowing here

Eric Stephan: virtual confetti flowing here

14:31:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> TOPIC: Plan next milestones for DWBP Working Group

3. Plan next milestones for DWBP Working Group

14:31:51 <yaso> ericstephan: lol

Eric Stephan: lol [ Scribe Assist by Yaso Córdova ]

14:32:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Hadleybeeman: steps are Editor's draft, FPWD, other public working drafts

Hadley Beeman: steps are Editor's draft, FPWD, other public working drafts

14:32:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Hadleybeeman: then last call

Hadley Beeman: then last call

14:33:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... we explicitly asks formal comments, which have to be handled formally (formal replies)

... we explicitly asks formal comments, which have to be handled formally (formal replies)

14:33:14 <Caroline_> q+ to ask What do we expect of each new version of the document. The minimal requirements.

Caroline Burle: q+ to ask What do we expect of each new version of the document. The minimal requirements.

14:34:03 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... than we must provide evidence of implementation

... then we must provide evidence of implementation

14:34:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/than/then
14:34:25 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... this will allow us to show that we are actually capturing best practices

... this will allow us to show that we are actually capturing best practices

14:34:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... next steps are candidate recommendation, and we move to proposed recommendation

... next steps are candidate recommendation, and we move to proposed recommendation

14:35:22 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> .. all w3c members are informed, and if there are no objection, this moves to recommendation

.. all w3c members are informed, and if there are no objection, this moves to recommendation

14:36:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: What should we expect of new versions of this document?

Caroline Burle: What should we expect of new versions of this document?

14:36:09 <hadleybeeman> @caroline_: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr

Hadley Beeman: @caroline_: http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr

14:36:20 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline_

Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline_

14:36:20 <Zakim> Caroline_, you wanted to ask What do we expect of each new version of the document. The minimal requirements.

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, you wanted to ask What do we expect of each new version of the document. The minimal requirements.

14:36:21 <hadleybeeman> q+ to reply

Hadley Beeman: q+ to reply

14:36:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: If we want to issue a second public working draft, what should be the minimum requirements?

Caroline Burle: If we want to issue a second public working draft, what should be the minimum requirements?

14:36:43 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: would be useful if we could settle deadlines.

Caroline Burle: would be useful if we could settle deadlines.

14:37:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Hadleybeeman: please check process document

Hadley Beeman: please check process document

14:37:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Hadleybeeman: publishing a second WD is our choice

Hadley Beeman: publishing a second WD is our choice

14:37:51 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:38:02 <deirdrelee> ack hadleybeeman

Deirdre Lee: ack hadleybeeman

14:38:02 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to reply

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to reply

14:38:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> q+

q+

14:38:24 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: editors decisions, or group decisions? (concerning timetable)

Caroline Burle: editors decisions, or group decisions? (concerning timetable)

14:38:34 <hadleybeeman> q+ phila

Hadley Beeman: q+ phila

14:38:39 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

14:39:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ericstephan: we can probably expect a second draft if more BPs are added

Eric Stephan: we can probably expect a second draft if more BPs are added

14:39:29 <Caroline_> q+

Caroline Burle: q+

14:39:41 <deirdrelee> q+ to answer ericstephan about last call

Deirdre Lee: q+ to answer ericstephan about last call

14:40:10 <ericstephan> q+ on data usage vocabulary

Eric Stephan: q+ on data usage vocabulary

14:40:12 <deirdrelee> ack JoaoPauloAlmeida

Deirdre Lee: ack JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:40:22 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: we will talk about vocabularies next

Deirdre Lee: we will talk about vocabularies next

14:40:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: it is expected that WGs target new versions for 3 months

Phil Archer: it is expected that WGs target new versions for 3 months

14:41:31 <deirdrelee> ack phila

Deirdre Lee: ack phila

14:41:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: use case document should also be published

Phil Archer: use case document should also be published

14:41:52 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline_

Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline_

14:42:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> phila: ideally in the next 3 months we should work issues such as precision in terminology, and that would be a new version

Phil Archer: ideally in the next 3 months we should work issues such as precision in terminology, and that would be a new version

14:42:24 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: would like to propose the group to find examples to illustrate the best practices.

Caroline Burle: would like to propose the group to find examples to illustrate the best practices.

14:42:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Caroline_: that should help us in a new version

Caroline Burle: that should help us in a new version

14:42:48 <Zakim> + +1.516.944.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.516.944.aaff

14:42:59 <adler1> zakim, aaff is me

Steven Adler: zakim, aaff is me

14:42:59 <Zakim> +adler1; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it

14:43:01 <AdrianoC> +1 to Caroline

Adriano Pereira: +1 to Caroline

14:43:18 <adler1> iterative

Steven Adler: iterative

14:43:24 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: how many versions?

Deirdre Lee: how many versions?

14:43:34 <adler1> point releases would be convenient

Steven Adler: point releases would be convenient

14:43:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... one or maybe too more if we follow the 3 month guideline

... one or maybe two more if we follow the 3 month guideline

14:43:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/too/two
14:44:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... maybe the example or the evaluations that Caroline is talking about relates to the implementations that Hadley mentioned

... maybe the example or the evaluations that Caroline is talking about relates to the implementations that Hadley mentioned

14:44:22 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... perhaps we should talk about the content first

... perhaps we should talk about the content first

14:44:37 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... suggests we focus now on the content

... suggests we focus now on the content

14:44:47 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... refinement, including BPs that we left out

... refinement, including BPs that we left out

14:44:51 <Caroline_> agree that it is important to mature the content of the BPs

Caroline Burle: agree that it is important to mature the content of the BPs

14:45:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... suggests action for the editors

... suggests action for the editors

14:45:11 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... to define a timeline

... to define a timeline

14:45:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> .. working backwards from the target deadline

.. working backwards from the target deadline

14:45:36 <hadleybeeman> @BP editors:  feel free to use/edit/change this. It's a worksheet for you: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable

Hadley Beeman: @BP editors: feel free to use/edit/change this. It's a worksheet for you: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_timetable

14:45:37 <Caroline_> we can propose a timeline :)

Caroline Burle: we can propose a timeline :)

14:45:40 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:45:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... considering last call, and other aspects of the process

... considering last call, and other aspects of the process

14:45:45 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee

14:45:45 <Zakim> deirdrelee, you wanted to answer ericstephan about last call

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, you wanted to answer ericstephan about last call

14:46:25 <Annette> no sound

Annette Greiner: no sound

14:46:51 <deirdrelee> we can hear her Annette

Deirdre Lee: we can hear her Annette

14:46:51 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Annette, we hear just fine

Annette, we hear just fine

14:46:59 <ericstephan> q-

Eric Stephan: q-

14:47:03 <Annette> it's back now

Annette Greiner: it's back now

14:47:53 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about implementation reports

Hadley Beeman: q+ to talk about implementation reports

14:48:06 <deirdrelee> ack hadleybeeman

Deirdre Lee: ack hadleybeeman

14:48:06 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about implementation reports

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about implementation reports

14:48:25 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html

14:48:32 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Implementations

14:48:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> hadleybeeman: keep a list of these things that we can do later (such as implementations)

Hadley Beeman: keep a list of these things that we can do later (such as pointing to implementations)

14:48:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/such as implementations/such as pointing to implementations
14:49:13 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

14:49:17 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> hadleybeeman: gives example of the kinds of evidence for implementation

Hadley Beeman: gives example of the kinds of evidence for implementation

14:49:31 <Caroline_> thank, hadleybeeman

Caroline Burle: thank, hadleybeeman

14:49:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... suggests a wiki page or a note for collecting these evidences early

... suggests a wiki page or a note for collecting these evidences early

14:49:43 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:50:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> action: Caroline and Newton to create a timeplan for the BP document

ACTION: Caroline and Newton to create a timeplan for the BP document

14:50:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-140 - And newton to create a timeplan for the bp document [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-02-27].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-140 - And newton to create a timeplan for the bp document [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-02-27].

14:50:34 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee

14:50:59 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:51:26 <deirdrelee> JoaoPauloAlmeida: wants to put quality vocab back on the agenda

Joao Almeida: wants to put quality vocab back on the agenda [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

14:51:35 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

14:51:35 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

14:51:42 <deirdrelee> .. there was great conversation at the F2F on this topic

Deirdre Lee: .. there was great conversation at the F2F on this topic

14:51:42 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:51:48 <deirdrelee> ack laufer

Deirdre Lee: ack laufer

14:51:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> laufer: what will be the timetable in Austin, TX?

Carlos Laufer: what will be the timetable in Austin, TX?

14:52:01 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

14:52:01 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:52:31 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

14:52:31 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

14:52:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> action: Deirdrelee to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

ACTION: Deirdrelee to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

14:52:44 <trackbot> Error finding 'Deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

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14:52:52 <ericstephan> 6am was agreed upon

Eric Stephan: 6am was agreed upon

14:53:06 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

14:53:06 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:53:17 <laufer> ok

Carlos Laufer: ok

14:53:21 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> action: Deirdree to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

ACTION: Deirdree to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

14:53:21 <trackbot> Error finding 'Deirdree'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

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14:53:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> action: Deirdre to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

ACTION: Deirdre to Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting

14:53:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-141 - Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting [on Deirdre Lee - due 2015-02-27].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-141 - Coordinate with chairs to establish timetable for f2f meeting [on Deirdre Lee - due 2015-02-27].

14:53:40 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:53:45 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

14:54:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ericstephan: because of the effort on the BP document, we have not done much about the data usage vocab

Eric Stephan: because of the effort on the BP document, we have not done much about the data usage vocab

14:54:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... will have meetings with the editors and will send announcement of this meeting

... will have meetings with the editors and will send announcement of this meeting

14:55:13 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

14:55:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... the use case documents will help the data usage effort, as well as BP

... the use case documents will help the data usage effort, as well as BP

14:55:33 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:55:38 <deirdrelee> ++1

Deirdre Lee: ++1

14:55:47 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... by the time to the f2f meeting, we can discuss in the WG

... by the time to the f2f meeting, we can discuss in the WG

14:57:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Deirdreelee: beyond the UCR and BP documents other sources will help us (mentions EU directives)

Deirdre Lee: beyond the UCR and BP documents other sources will help us (mentions EU directives)

14:57:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ... bring the discussions back into the WG

... bring the discussions back into the WG

14:57:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to discussing vocab work in Friday meetings

+1 to discussing vocab work in Friday meetings

14:58:01 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:58:08 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

14:58:12 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee

14:58:38 <newton> bye

Newton Calegari: bye

14:58:39 <Zakim> -lewis

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14:58:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks all! bye

Riccardo Albertoni: thanks all! bye

14:58:41 <Zakim> -ericstephan

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14:58:41 <jerdeb> bye

Jeremy Debattista: bye

14:58:41 <yaso> bye

Yaso Córdova: bye

14:58:41 <Caroline_> thank you! Bye!

Caroline Burle: thank you! Bye!

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14:58:44 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

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14:58:44 <laufer> bye

Carlos Laufer: bye

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14:58:46 <Annette> bye all!

Annette Greiner: bye all!

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14:59:07 <gatemezi> ciao!

Ghislain Atemezing: ciao!

14:59:29 <AdrianoC> Bye!

Adriano Pereira: Bye!

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