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12:48:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
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12:48:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
12:48:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes ←
12:48:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:48:44 <trackbot> Date: 10 October 2014
12:52:17 <deirdrelee> RRSAgent, make logs public
Deirdre Lee: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
12:57:16 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started ←
12:57:23 <Zakim> + +1.626.487.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.626.487.aaaa ←
12:58:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
12:59:02 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me ←
12:59:02 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
12:59:12 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is on the call?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is on the call? ←
12:59:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, deirdrelee ←
12:59:55 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
13:00:09 <sandro> Guest: Lewis (lewismc) McGibbney
13:00:09 <lewismc> lewismc --> Lewis John McGibbney
Lewis McGibbney: lewismc --> Lewis John McGibbney ←
13:00:10 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P5 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P5 is me ←
13:00:10 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←
13:00:30 <deirdrelee> zakim, +1.626 is lewismc
Deirdre Lee: zakim, +1.626 is lewismc ←
13:00:30 <Zakim> +lewismc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +lewismc; got it ←
13:00:34 <Zakim> + +1.509.375.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.375.aabb ←
13:01:00 <lewismc> Hello Folks
Lewis McGibbney: Hello Folks ←
13:01:11 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is on the call?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:01:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, +1.509.375.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, +1.509.375.aabb ←
13:01:14 <ericstephan> zakim, +1.509.375 is ericstephan
Eric Stephan: zakim, +1.509.375 is ericstephan ←
13:01:14 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it ←
13:01:22 <deirdrelee> Hi Ghislain
Deirdre Lee: Hi Ghislain ←
13:01:25 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aacc ←
13:01:37 <deirdrelee> chair: deirdrelee
13:01:41 <deirdrelee> scribe: ericstephan
(Scribe set to Eric Stephan)
13:01:53 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
13:01:53 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.646.aadd ←
13:01:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:02:09 <SumitPurohit> Hello Everyone.
Sumit Purohit: Hello Everyone. ←
13:02:13 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:02:13 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
13:02:15 <newton> Hello all
Newton Calegari: Hello all ←
13:02:18 <ericstephan> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141010
13:02:22 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton ←
13:02:22 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' ←
13:02:24 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:02:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aacc, Caroline, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aacc, Caroline, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer ←
13:02:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot ←
13:02:27 <gatemezi> Zakim, +33.4.93.aacc is me
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, +33.4.93.aacc is me ←
13:02:27 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named '+33.4.93.aacc'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named '+33.4.93.aacc' ←
13:02:36 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton ←
13:02:36 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' ←
13:02:37 <newton> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton ←
13:02:39 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' ←
13:02:39 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:02:39 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:02:40 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:02:49 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline has Caroline_ and newton
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline has Caroline_ and newton ←
13:02:49 <Zakim> +Caroline_, newton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_, newton; got it ←
13:03:22 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:03:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi, Caroline, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer (muted), HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi, Caroline, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer (muted), HadleyBeeman ←
13:03:25 <Zakim> Caroline has Caroline_, newton
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Caroline_, newton ←
13:03:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot ←
13:03:48 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141010
Hadley Beeman: HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141010 ←
13:04:18 <deirdrelee> zakim, +1.617.646 is SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: zakim, +1.617.646 is SumitPurohit ←
13:04:18 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit; got it ←
13:04:23 <deirdrelee> zakim, +1.617.646 is SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: zakim, +1.617.646 is SumitPurohit ←
13:04:23 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I do not recognize a party named '+1.617.646'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I do not recognize a party named '+1.617.646' ←
13:04:25 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
13:04:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi (muted), Caroline, SumitPurohit, laufer (muted), HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, ericstephan, gatemezi (muted), Caroline, SumitPurohit, laufer (muted), HadleyBeeman ←
13:04:27 <Zakim> Caroline has Caroline_, newton
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Caroline_, newton ←
13:04:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see newton, laufer, Caroline_, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, lewismc, SumitPurohit, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot ←
13:04:45 <newton> Zakim, Caroline is Caroline_
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Caroline is Caroline_ ←
13:04:45 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it ←
13:04:55 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, HadleyBeeman has phila
Hadley Beeman: zakim, HadleyBeeman has phila ←
13:04:55 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
13:04:57 <ericstephan> deirdre: welcome to lewismc, give a quick intro
Deirdre Lee: welcome to lewismc, give a quick intro ←
13:05:40 <newton> Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso_
Newton Calegari: Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso_ ←
13:05:40 <Zakim> +yaso_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso_; got it ←
13:05:40 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline has yaso_
Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline has yaso_ ←
13:05:41 <Zakim> yaso_ was already listed in Caroline_, Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso_ was already listed in Caroline_, Caroline_ ←
13:05:46 <MTCarrasco> Legislative informatics: any links
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Legislative informatics: any links ←
13:06:34 <ericstephan> deirdre: work very important to working group
Deirdre Lee: work very important to working group ←
13:06:44 <ericstephan> PROPOSED: approve last weeks minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-03
PROPOSED: approve last weeks minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-03 ←
13:06:52 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:06:53 <ericstephan> +1
+1 ←
13:06:56 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:07:02 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
13:07:06 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:07:06 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
13:07:16 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:07:17 <yaso_> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:07:28 <ericstephan> RESOLVED: approval meeting minutes
RESOLVED: approval meeting minutes ←
13:08:00 <ericstephan> topic: TPAC agenda
13:08:10 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/TPAC_2014
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/TPAC_2014 ←
13:09:17 <ericstephan> deirdre: thought it would be good the first day looking over the UC requirements
Deirdre Lee: thought it would be good the first day looking over the UC requirements ←
13:09:38 <ericstephan> deirdre: should have a really comprehensive list of requirements for TPAC
Deirdre Lee: should have a really comprehensive list of requirements for TPAC ←
13:09:52 <ericstephan> deirdre: half a day would be sufficient
Deirdre Lee: half a day would be sufficient ←
13:09:59 <lewismc> Can someone please clarify acronym TPAC
Lewis McGibbney: Can someone please clarify acronym TPAC ←
13:10:00 <lewismc> ?
Lewis McGibbney: ? ←
13:10:07 <lewismc> Oh F2F meeting?
Lewis McGibbney: Oh F2F meeting? ←
13:10:15 <ericstephan> deirdre: afterward, divide into groups
Deirdre Lee: afterward, divide into groups ←
13:10:18 <ericstephan> yes at the F2F
yes at the F2F ←
13:10:26 <HadleyBeeman> lewismc, it's the W3C's yearly Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee meeting
Hadley Beeman: lewismc, it's the W3C's yearly Technical Plenary and Advisory Committee meeting ←
13:10:38 <lewismc> Thanks Deirdre
Lewis McGibbney: Thanks Deirdre ←
13:10:45 <lewismc> thank you HadleyBeeman
Lewis McGibbney: thank you HadleyBeeman ←
13:10:50 <HadleyBeeman> no problem :)
Hadley Beeman: no problem :) ←
13:11:02 <ericstephan> deirdre: can attend remotely or in person
Deirdre Lee: can attend remotely or in person ←
13:11:32 <HadleyBeeman> action: phil to check zakim booing for TPAC
ACTION: phil to check zakim booing for TPAC ←
13:11:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - Check zakim booing for tpac [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-95 - Check zakim booing for tpac [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-17]. ←
13:11:55 <ericstephan> deirdre: editors need to have something in mind in terms of realistic being accomplished
Deirdre Lee: editors need to have something in mind in terms of realistic being accomplished ←
13:12:35 <ericstephan> deirdre: at the end of the second day having some tangible deliverables we plan accomplishing
Deirdre Lee: at the end of the second day having some tangible deliverables we plan accomplishing ←
13:12:37 <SumitPurohit> +q
Sumit Purohit: +q ←
13:13:17 <ericstephan> deirdre: even if it is a skeleton we can use that, but something we can work toward
Deirdre Lee: even if it is a skeleton we can use that, but something we can work toward ←
13:13:20 <deirdrelee> ack SumitPurohit
Deirdre Lee: ack SumitPurohit ←
13:14:07 <ericstephan> sumit: question on the agenda, will we use the same irc channel and number?
Sumit Purohit: question on the agenda, will we use the same irc channel and number? ←
13:14:24 <ericstephan> hadley: yes same way, may do other things like google chat.
Hadley Beeman: yes same way, may do other things like google chat. ←
13:14:27 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:14:54 <ericstephan> phila: even remote attendees can join split out groups
Phil Archer: even remote attendees can join split out groups ←
13:15:11 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan
Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan ←
13:15:55 <ericstephan> deirdre: used different skype and irc to involve the participants as much as possible
Deirdre Lee: used different skype and irc to involve the participants as much as possible ←
13:16:23 <MTCarrasco> Where are the details to attend remotely?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Where are the details to attend remotely? ←
13:17:26 <ericstephan> ericstephan to set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for TPAC for the vocabulary groups
ericstephan to set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for TPAC for the vocabulary groups ←
13:18:01 <ericstephan> ACTION: ericstephan to set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for TPAC
ACTION: ericstephan to set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for TPAC ←
13:18:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for tpac [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-10-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-96 - Set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for tpac [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-10-17]. ←
13:18:41 <ericstephan> topic: Use Case and Requirements update
13:18:45 <deirdrelee> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html
Deirdre Lee: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html ←
13:19:23 <ericstephan> deirdre: this is isn't the final version, we wanted a fairly mature document, will want to publish next Tuesday
Deirdre Lee: this is isn't the final version, we wanted a fairly mature document, will want to publish next Tuesday ←
13:19:43 <ericstephan> deirdre: want to get feedback from the community in preparation for TPAC
Deirdre Lee: want to get feedback from the community in preparation for TPAC ←
13:20:08 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:21:04 <deirdrelee> ericstephan: went through entire UCR doc and in the case of Closed data, find other requirements, based on existing use-cases and see if there are new use-cases
Eric Stephan: went through entire UCR doc and in the case of Closed data, find other requirements, based on existing use-cases and see if there are new use-cases [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:21:20 <deirdrelee> .. added new use-cases, which phil reviewed
Deirdre Lee: .. added new use-cases, which phil reviewed ←
13:21:37 <deirdrelee> phila: 3 new requirements from closed data
Phil Archer: 3 new requirements from closed data [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ] ←
13:21:44 <ericstephan> phila: put an extra section in the document for closed data
Phil Archer: put an extra section in the document for closed data ←
13:21:58 <deirdrelee> ... added text on closed data that was been worked on on the wiki
Deirdre Lee: ... added text on closed data that was been worked on on the wiki ←
13:22:08 <ericstephan> phila: there is more to come as deirdre shared
Phil Archer: there is more to come as deirdre shared ←
13:22:12 <deirdrelee> ... there are more use-cases to come, e.g. from Mark Harrison and GS1
Deirdre Lee: ... there are more use-cases to come, e.g. from Mark Harrison and GS1 ←
13:22:31 <ericstephan> phila: this is about asking as many people did we capture your use case and your requirements?
Phil Archer: this is about asking as many people did we capture your use case and your requirements? ←
13:22:38 <lewismc> Thank you for context
Lewis McGibbney: Thank you for context ←
13:23:21 <ericstephan> PROPOSED: publish the next working draft of UC document
PROPOSED: publish the next working draft of UC document ←
13:23:26 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:23:27 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:23:35 <ericstephan> +1
+1 ←
13:23:37 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:23:37 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:23:43 <gatemezi> +1 --good job
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 --good job ←
13:23:49 <HadleyBeeman> +1 phil
Hadley Beeman: +1 phil ←
13:23:54 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:24:08 <ericstephan> RESOLVED: next working draft of UC document will be published
RESOLVED: next working draft of UC document will be published ←
13:25:12 <ericstephan> deirdre: phila will handle the details of making publication happen only happens on tuesdays and thursdays
Deirdre Lee: phila will handle the details of making publication happen only happens on tuesdays and thursdays ←
13:25:23 <ericstephan> phila: so next Tuesday will be published
Phil Archer: so next Tuesday will be published ←
13:26:07 <ericstephan> ACTION deirdrelee to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document
ACTION deirdrelee to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document ←
13:26:07 <trackbot> Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
13:26:12 <nathalia__> Zakim, yaso_ has nathalia__
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso_ has nathalia__ ←
13:26:12 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia__, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia__, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso_' ←
13:26:38 <ericstephan> ACTION: deirdrelee to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document
ACTION: deirdrelee to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document ←
13:26:38 <trackbot> Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
13:26:46 <ericstephan> ACTION: deirdre to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document
ACTION: deirdre to send out invitation for feedback on published UC document ←
13:26:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Send out invitation for feedback on published uc document [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-10-17].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-97 - Send out invitation for feedback on published uc document [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-10-17]. ←
13:27:04 <nathalia__> Zakim, Caroline_ has nathalia__
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, Caroline_ has nathalia__ ←
13:27:04 <Zakim> +nathalia__; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia__; got it ←
13:27:15 <ericstephan> deirdre: review status next week
Deirdre Lee: review status next week ←
13:27:18 <deirdrelee> q?
Deirdre Lee: q? ←
13:27:50 <ericstephan> topic: COMURI draft discussion
13:28:28 <lewismc> Can someone clarify COMURI? --> Community URI specification?
Lewis McGibbney: Can someone clarify COMURI? --> Community URI specification? ←
13:28:39 <Caroline_> +q
Caroline Burle: +q ←
13:28:56 <ericstephan> deirdre: more on how to move forward on best practices rather than just focus on COMURI
Deirdre Lee: more on how to move forward on best practices rather than just focus on COMURI ←
13:29:15 <gatemezi> COMURI at http://dragoman.org/comuri.html
Ghislain Atemezing: COMURI at http://dragoman.org/comuri.html ←
13:29:44 <lewismc> gatemezi: thankyou
Ghislain Atemezing: thankyou [ Scribe Assist by Lewis McGibbney ] ←
13:30:07 <ericstephan> caroline_: give a quick update on the proposed structure on the BP document
Caroline Burle: give a quick update on the proposed structure on the BP document ←
13:30:22 <yaso_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Proposed_structure
Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Proposed_structure ←
13:30:25 <ericstephan> caroline_: yaso has been helping quite a bit with this effort.
Caroline Burle: yaso has been helping quite a bit with this effort. ←
13:30:33 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline_
Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline_ ←
13:30:37 <ericstephan> caroline_: this is a proposed structure
Caroline Burle: this is a proposed structure ←
13:30:39 <yaso_> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:31:28 <ericstephan> yaso: this is just a preliminary draft, to have a more bold proposal, next week
Yaso Córdova: this is just a preliminary draft, to have a more bold proposal, next week ←
13:32:01 <HadleyBeeman> q+ phila
Hadley Beeman: q+ phila ←
13:32:35 <ericstephan> deirdre: in the long term, what would be a good way to coordinate efforts between sections?
Deirdre Lee: in the long term, what would be a good way to coordinate efforts between sections? ←
13:32:45 <gatemezi> The draft looks quite similar to vocab group workflow...
Ghislain Atemezing: The draft looks quite similar to vocab group workflow... ←
13:33:18 <ericstephan> yaso: we will need to discuss path forward on how to coordinate
Yaso Córdova: we will need to discuss path forward on how to coordinate ←
13:33:25 <deirdrelee> ack yaso_
Deirdre Lee: ack yaso_ ←
13:33:32 <deirdrelee> ack phila
Deirdre Lee: ack phila ←
13:33:49 <ericstephan> phila: just looking at the list of challenges, the only thing that bothers me it isn't the same list of challenges in the Use Case document
Phil Archer: just looking at the list of challenges, the only thing that bothers me it isn't the same list of challenges in the Use Case document ←
13:34:28 <yaso_> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:34:41 <ericstephan> phila: we had people working on another set of challenges, I'd be more comfortable that the challenges connected better with the challenges in the use case document
Phil Archer: we had people working on another set of challenges, I'd be more comfortable that the challenges connected better with the challenges in the use case document ←
13:34:53 <ericstephan> phila: we need to be anchored in evidence
Phil Archer: we need to be anchored in evidence ←
13:34:55 <deirdrelee> ack yaso_
Deirdre Lee: ack yaso_ ←
13:34:57 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:34:57 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:35:23 <ericstephan> yaso: I can speak for bernadette, it is not a question of making new challenges, its a question of fixing the challenges we have at this point
Yaso Córdova: I can speak for bernadette, it is not a question of making new challenges, its a question of fixing the challenges we have at this point ←
13:35:46 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:36:04 <ericstephan> yaso: it is more a matter of rearranging how the challenges are presented, not adding new challenges
Yaso Córdova: it is more a matter of rearranging how the challenges are presented, not adding new challenges ←
13:36:35 <ericstephan> deirdre: match the challenges to the BP and the UC challenges might be useful to communicate the structure...
Deirdre Lee: match the challenges to the BP and the UC challenges might be useful to communicate the structure... ←
13:36:59 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
13:37:00 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
13:37:07 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee ←
13:37:19 <laufer> +1 with deirdree
Carlos Laufer: +1 with deirdree ←
13:37:32 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:37:38 <ericstephan> hadley: building on what you said we don't have URI, do we lack use cases still for this?
Hadley Beeman: building on what you said we don't have URI, do we lack use cases still for this? ←
13:37:46 <yaso_> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:37:53 <ericstephan> deirdre: very interesting observation
Deirdre Lee: very interesting observation ←
13:38:24 <deirdrelee> ack HadleyBeeman
Deirdre Lee: ack HadleyBeeman ←
13:38:27 <deirdrelee> ack MTCarrasco
Deirdre Lee: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:39:04 <lewismc> ericstephan: would it be too late to propose a JPL use case for the Use Cases & Requirements doc?
Eric Stephan: would it be too late to propose a JPL use case for the Use Cases & Requirements doc? [ Scribe Assist by Lewis McGibbney ] ←
13:39:05 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:39:33 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: it is quite evident that the URI is important, first step getting into the data is to identify it.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: it is quite evident that the URI is important, first step getting into the data is to identify it. ←
13:39:34 <lewismc> I understand the doc is to be published soon
Lewis McGibbney: I understand the doc is to be published soon ←
13:40:01 <ericstephan> deirdre: Can you look at the use cases for URI requirements?
Deirdre Lee: Can you look at the use cases for URI requirements? ←
13:40:02 <HadleyBeeman> q
Hadley Beeman: q ←
13:40:11 <HadleyBeeman> q+ phila
Hadley Beeman: q+ phila ←
13:40:17 <ericstephan> deirdre: speaking with MTCarrasco...
Deirdre Lee: speaking with MTCarrasco... ←
13:40:32 <ericstephan> deirdre: is there enough evidence or motivation there?
Deirdre Lee: is there enough evidence or motivation there? ←
13:41:04 <MTCarrasco> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986 ←
13:41:45 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: I already have that action to highlight it, strongly recommends people look at the main reference document for URI follows the existing spec
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I already have that action to highlight it, strongly recommends people look at the main reference document for URI follows the existing spec ←
13:42:27 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: a tutorial or primer could be added to URI as well
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: a tutorial or primer could be added to URI as well ←
13:43:27 <ericstephan> deirdre: it is an iterative approach between the documents, speaking as the editor of the UC document, reemphasize the important to making sure the UC document feeds into all our documents
Deirdre Lee: it is an iterative approach between the documents, speaking as the editor of the UC document, reemphasize the important to making sure the UC document feeds into all our documents ←
13:43:27 <MTCarrasco> s/a tutorial or primer could be added to URI as well/copy parts from RFC3986 so COMURI can be a bit of a tutorial/
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: s/a tutorial or primer could be added to URI as well/copy parts from RFC3986 so COMURI can be a bit of a tutorial/ ←
13:43:27 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila
Hadley Beeman: ack phila ←
13:43:34 <deirdrelee> ack de
Deirdre Lee: ack de ←
13:43:38 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee ←
13:44:34 <Zakim> -lewismc
Zakim IRC Bot: -lewismc ←
13:44:53 <Zakim> +lewismc
Zakim IRC Bot: +lewismc ←
13:44:59 <ericstephan> phila: from the scientists perspective a persistent identifer is a DOI or other notions if you stick that at the end of a URI, when you speak to URI we do need to clear that we need to say web URI it is not necessarily a URL etc.
Phil Archer: from the scientists perspective a persistent identifer is a DOI or other notions if you stick that at the end of a URI, when you speak to URI we do need to clear that we need to say web URI it is not necessarily a URL etc. ←
13:45:17 <ericstephan> phila: all sorts of identifiers out there
Phil Archer: all sorts of identifiers out there ←
13:45:32 <MTCarrasco> RFC3986 says A URI can be further classified as a locator, a name, or both. The term "Uniform Resource Locator" (URL) refers to the subset of URIs that, in addition to identifying a resource, provide a means of locating the resource by describing its primary access mechanism
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: RFC3986 says A URI can be further classified as a locator, a name, or both. The term "Uniform Resource Locator" (URL) refers to the subset of URIs that, in addition to identifying a resource, provide a means of locating the resource by describing its primary access mechanism ←
13:45:53 <ericstephan> phila: we just need to be careful and clear about what we are referring to...
Phil Archer: we just need to be careful and clear about what we are referring to... ←
13:46:28 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:46:34 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: rfc3986 is universal and this is what I am doing for COMURI
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: rfc3986 is universal and this is what I am doing for COMURI ←
13:47:17 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
13:47:17 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←
13:47:28 <lewismc> deirdrelee: thank you
Deirdre Lee: thank you [ Scribe Assist by Lewis McGibbney ] ←
13:47:33 <lewismc> I got cut off for a bit there
Lewis McGibbney: I got cut off for a bit there ←
13:49:15 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:49:27 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Laufer on multilingualism (phila)
Hadley Beeman: +1 to Laufer on multilingualism (phila) ←
13:49:33 <HadleyBeeman> +1 from Hadley too
Hadley Beeman: +1 from Hadley too ←
13:49:35 <ericstephan> laufer: There is correlation between document and resource...metadata relates to the resource....
Carlos Laufer: There is correlation between document and resource...metadata relates to the resource.... ←
13:50:08 <yaso_> +1 to laufer
Yaso Córdova: +1 to laufer ←
13:50:11 <HadleyBeeman> ack laufer
Hadley Beeman: ack laufer ←
13:50:20 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:50:20 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:50:26 <ericstephan> laufer: the short URI is interesting, but I don't agree of publishing documents about things that have already been published....
Carlos Laufer: the short URI is interesting, but I don't agree of publishing documents about things that have already been published.... ←
13:51:04 <ericstephan> deirdre: back to linking between the UC document and BP document editors
Deirdre Lee: back to linking between the UC document and BP document editors ←
13:51:17 <ericstephan> deirdre: we have to make sure all of our work is grounded...
Deirdre Lee: we have to make sure all of our work is grounded... ←
13:52:00 <ericstephan> deirdre: The rest of the BP document are also important as well as the vocabularies have to progress as well
Deirdre Lee: The rest of the BP document are also important as well as the vocabularies have to progress as well ←
13:52:10 <MTCarrasco> Please could you post your comments to the list
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Please could you post your comments to the list ←
13:52:41 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:52:47 <ericstephan> deirdre: feel free to comment about the details...
Deirdre Lee: feel free to comment about the details... ←
13:52:51 <HadleyBeeman> ack mt
Hadley Beeman: ack mt ←
13:53:14 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: the question of the format is not a question it is the question of the syntax (hope I got that right)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the question of the format is not a question it is the question of the syntax (hope I got that right) ←
13:54:03 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me ←
13:54:03 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted ←
13:54:07 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: having access to the metadata the very end, suggest a different one...
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: having access to the metadata the very end, suggest a different one... ←
13:54:23 <ericstephan> laufer: we already have a way of referencing a resource
Carlos Laufer: we already have a way of referencing a resource ←
13:54:47 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: please send an example...
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: please send an example... ←
13:55:04 <ericstephan> MTCarrasco: is this a fragment?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: is this a fragment? ←
13:55:09 <ericstephan> laufer: yes
Carlos Laufer: yes ←
13:55:21 <HadleyBeeman> q+ phila to stop the HR14 talk
Hadley Beeman: q+ phila to stop the HR14 talk ←
13:55:26 <Zakim> -gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←
13:55:56 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila
Hadley Beeman: ack phila ←
13:55:56 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to stop the HR14 talk
Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to stop the HR14 talk ←
13:57:09 <ericstephan> phila: this is becoming a discussion on HTTP HR14 there are different LDP group looking at solutions, ..this discussion is too big for our WG...
Phil Archer: this is becoming a discussion on HTTP HR14 there are different LDP group looking at solutions, ..this discussion is too big for our WG... ←
13:57:56 <ericstephan> deirdre: what this is demonstrating to me that on the call we don't have all the people to have a more thourough discussion
Deirdre Lee: what this is demonstrating to me that on the call we don't have all the people to have a more thourough discussion ←
13:58:01 <MTCarrasco> The "?" is empty query - fine to use "#" an empty fragment
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The "?" is empty query - fine to use "#" an empty fragment ←
13:58:11 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:58:11 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:58:38 <ericstephan> Great job Deirdre!
Great job Deirdre! ←
13:58:41 <SumitPurohit> Thanks.
Sumit Purohit: Thanks. ←
13:58:42 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←
13:58:42 <newton> Bye!
Newton Calegari: Bye! ←
13:58:45 <nathalia__> bye
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye ←
13:58:46 <lewismc> Thank you by eby e folks
Lewis McGibbney: Thank you by eby e folks ←
13:58:48 <laufer> bye, nice wk to all
Carlos Laufer: bye, nice wk to all ←
13:58:48 <MTCarrasco> Bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Bye ←
13:58:48 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
13:58:51 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit ←
13:58:56 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
13:59:15 <Zakim> -laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer ←
13:59:22 <Zakim> -lewismc
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13:59:24 <gatemezi> bye
Ghislain Atemezing: bye ←
13:59:50 <ericstephan> Is there any more scribe functions I need to do to finish the meeting?
Is there any more scribe functions I need to do to finish the meeting? ←
14:00:04 <deirdrelee> no, i think that's it eric
Deirdre Lee: no, i think that's it eric ←
14:00:06 <deirdrelee> thanks again!
Deirdre Lee: thanks again! ←
14:00:16 <ericstephan> you bet! have a great weekend
you bet! have a great weekend ←
14:01:39 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here? ←
14:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, Caroline_ ←
14:01:41 <Zakim> Caroline_ has nathalia__
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has nathalia__ ←
14:01:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see adrianoc, nathalia__, Caroline_, HadleyBeeman, Zakim, RRSAgent, deirdrelee, trackbot
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14:01:53 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
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14:06:53 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Caroline_, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM
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14:06:55 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
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14:06:55 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, lewismc, +1.509.375.aabb, ericstephan, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer, Caroline_, newton, gatemezi, SumitPurohit, phila, yaso_,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, deirdrelee, MTCarrasco, lewismc, +1.509.375.aabb, ericstephan, +1.617.646.aadd, laufer, Caroline_, newton, gatemezi, SumitPurohit, phila, yaso_, ←
14:06:56 <Zakim> ... nathalia__
Zakim IRC Bot: ... nathalia__ ←
14:07:08 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, bye
Hadley Beeman: zakim, bye ←
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