edit

Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 03 October 2014

Seen
Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Eric Stephan, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Mark Harrison, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Steven Adler, Sumit Purohit, Yaso Córdova
Scribe
Yaso Córdova
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26 link
Topics
12:58:48 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp

12:59:09 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Vocabs agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141003

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Vocabs agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141003

12:59:28 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp

12:59:28 <Zakim> ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

12:59:34 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141003

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141003

13:00:28 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

13:00:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:00:38 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:00:38 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

13:00:47 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

13:01:03 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P6 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P6 is me

13:01:03 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

13:01:28 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:03:20 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

13:03:40 <Zakim> +EricStephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +EricStephan

13:03:40 <IG_Bittencourt> zakim P13 is me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: zakim P13 is me

13:03:52 <Zakim> +markharrison

Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison

13:03:52 <IG_Bittencourt> zakim ??P13 is me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: zakim ??P13 is me

13:04:02 <Zakim> +newton

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton

13:04:18 <yaso> Zakim, Newton is Yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Newton is Yaso

13:04:18 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it

13:04:34 <IG_Bittencourt> zakim mute me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: zakim mute me

13:06:00 <yaso> Scribe: yaso

(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)

13:06:10 <HadleyBeeman1> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

13:06:37 <Zakim> +Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve

13:07:00 <yaso> Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

13:07:21 <yaso> PROPOSED: Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

PROPOSED: Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

13:07:22 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:07:24 <yaso> +1

+1

13:07:28 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

13:07:30 <IG_Bittencourt> +1

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +1

13:07:34 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:08:08 <gatemezi> +0 - was not present

Ghislain Atemezing: +0 - was not present

13:08:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:08:18 <markharrison> 0 - not sure I was present

Mark Harrison: 0 - not sure I was present

13:08:34 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: Is anyone against last week’s minutes?

Hadley Beeman: Is anyone against last week’s minutes?

13:08:37 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:08:37 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:09:06 <yaso> Resolved: Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

RESOLVED: Aprove last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-09-26

13:09:23 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:09:23 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:09:24 <phila> Topic: TPAC

1. TPAC

13:09:28 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: let’s move on to TPAC’s topics

Hadley Beeman: let’s move on to TPAC’s topics

13:09:33 <yaso> … any questions?

… any questions?

13:09:44 <phila> Members

Phil Archer: Members

13:09:44 <phila> Phil Archer

Phil Archer: Phil Archer

13:09:44 <phila> Eric Kauz

Phil Archer: Eric Kauz

13:09:44 <phila> Michel Dumontier (Stanford University) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Michel Dumontier (Stanford University) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:44 <phila> Vagner Diniz (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Vagner Diniz (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:45 <phila> Sandro Hawke (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Sandro Hawke (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:47 <phila> Andrei Sambra (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Andrei Sambra (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:50 <markharrison> +q

Mark Harrison: +q

13:09:51 <phila> Flavio Yanai (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Flavio Yanai (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:53 <phila> Newton Calegari (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Newton Calegari (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:55 <phila> Hadley Beeman (W3C Invited Experts) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Hadley Beeman (W3C Invited Experts) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:57 <phila> Carlos Laufer (Department of Informatics, PUC-Rio) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Carlos Laufer (Department of Informatics, PUC-Rio) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:09:59 <phila> Yaso Córdova  (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Yaso Córdova (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:01 <phila> Dan Brickley  (Google, Inc.) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Dan Brickley (Google, Inc.) : attending Thursday

13:10:03 <phila> Steven Adler (IBM Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Steven Adler (IBM Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:03 <yaso> Phila: there’s a list of eneryone that is registered

Phil Archer: there’s a list of eneryone that is registered

13:10:05 <phila> Ig Ibert Bittencourt Santana Pinto (Universidade Federal de Alagoas) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Ig Ibert Bittencourt Santana Pinto (Universidade Federal de Alagoas) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:07 <phila> Bernadette Farias Loscio (Center for Informatics - Federal University of Pernambuco, CIn-UFPE) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Bernadette Farias Loscio (Center for Informatics - Federal University of Pernambuco, CIn-UFPE) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:10 <phila> Alan Turransky (Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Alan Turransky (Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB) : attending Thursday

13:10:12 <phila> Eric Stephan (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Eric Stephan (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:14 <phila> Amy Guy (University of Edinburgh (School of Informatics, EDINA)) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Amy Guy (University of Edinburgh (School of Informatics, EDINA)) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:16 <phila> Raphaël Troncy (INSTITUT TELECOM) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Raphaël Troncy (INSTITUT TELECOM) : attending Thursday

13:10:20 <phila> Adriano Pereira (Inweb - National Institute of Science and Technology for the Web) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Adriano Pereira (Inweb - National Institute of Science and Technology for the Web) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:23 <phila> Bart van Leeuwen (netage.nl) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Bart van Leeuwen (netage.nl) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:25 <phila> Guests

Phil Archer: Guests

13:10:27 <phila> Adam Abramski (Intel Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Adam Abramski (Intel Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:29 <phila> Bernard Gidon (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Bernard Gidon (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday

13:10:31 <phila> Olivier Thereaux (British Broadcasting Corporation) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Olivier Thereaux (British Broadcasting Corporation) : attending Thursday

13:10:31 <yaso> Big list!

Big list!

13:10:32 <markharrison> ... to ask about best timing for connecting to TPAC for DWBP for those of us in Europe - preferably Thursday / Friday morning

Mark Harrison: ... to ask about best timing for connecting to TPAC for DWBP for those of us in Europe - preferably Thursday / Friday morning

13:10:33 <phila> Jeremy Tandy (Met Office) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Jeremy Tandy (Met Office) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:34 <nathalia> +1

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1

13:10:35 <phila> Felix Sasaki (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Felix Sasaki (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:37 <phila> Frederick Hirsch (Nokia Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Frederick Hirsch (Nokia Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:39 <phila> Jeni Tennison (W3C Invited Experts) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Jeni Tennison (W3C Invited Experts) : attending Thursday

13:10:41 <phila> Dan Brickley (Google, Inc.) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Dan Brickley (Google, Inc.) : attending Thursday

13:10:43 <phila> Nigel Megitt (British Broadcasting Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Nigel Megitt (British Broadcasting Corporation) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:45 <phila> Tim Berners-Lee (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Tim Berners-Lee (W3C Staff) : attending Thursday

13:10:46 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:10:47 <phila> Reinaldo Ferraz (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Reinaldo Ferraz (NIC.br - Brazilian Network Information Center) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:50 <hadleybeeman> ack mark

Hadley Beeman: ack mark

13:10:51 <phila> Ann Bassetti  (Boeing Company) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Ann Bassetti (Boeing Company) : attending Thursday

13:10:53 <phila> Erik Wilde (Siemens AG) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Erik Wilde (Siemens AG) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:55 <phila> Milan Patel (Huawei) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Milan Patel (Huawei) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:10:57 <phila> Zheng Huang : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Zheng Huang : attending Thursday

13:10:59 <phila> Jean-Pierre Abello (The Nielsen Company) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Jean-Pierre Abello (The Nielsen Company) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:11:01 <phila> Fabien Gandon (Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et en Automatique) : attending Thursday, Friday

Phil Archer: Fabien Gandon (Institut National de Recherche en Informatique et en Automatique) : attending Thursday, Friday

13:11:03 <phila> Annette Greiner (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory) : attending Thursday

Phil Archer: Annette Greiner (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory) : attending Thursday

13:11:05 <phila> ack markharrison

Phil Archer: ack markharrison

13:11:05 <yaso> Zakim, whois speaking?

Zakim, whois speaking?

13:11:06 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso.

13:11:21 <phila> q+ to talk about the agenda and overlaps

Phil Archer: q+ to talk about the agenda and overlaps

13:11:28 <yaso> MarkHarrison: if those discussions are in the morning

Mark Harrison: if those discussions are in the morning

13:11:33 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:11:33 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about the agenda and overlaps

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to talk about the agenda and overlaps

13:11:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:11:41 <hadleybeeman> s/smarlharrison/markharrison

Hadley Beeman: s/smarlharrison/markharrison (warning: replacement failed)

13:11:41 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:11:41 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:11:46 <MTCarrasco> zakim, who's noisy?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, who's noisy?

13:11:48 <yaso> too much noise, guys

too much noise, guys

13:11:55 <yaso> And there’s ecco

And there’s ecco

13:11:57 <Zakim> MTCarrasco, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markharrison (42%)

Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markharrison (42%)

13:12:02 <hadleybeeman> Could all of you mute please?

Hadley Beeman: Could all of you mute please?

13:12:06 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:12:06 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:12:09 <yaso> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

13:12:09 <Zakim> Yaso should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso should now be muted

13:12:10 <hadleybeeman> zakim, mute markharrison

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute markharrison

13:12:11 <Zakim> markharrison should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison should now be muted

13:12:48 <yaso> Phila: if we get out our agenda first

Phil Archer: if we get out our agenda first

13:13:10 <yaso> Hadley: that’s the conflict that we need to resolve

Hadley Beeman: that’s the conflict that we need to resolve

13:13:20 <yaso> Phila: data shapes meeting is in the same time

Phil Archer: data shapes meeting is in the same time

13:13:22 <ericstephan> +1 phil a getting our agenda out asap.

Eric Stephan: +1 phil a getting our agenda out asap.

13:13:30 <yaso> +1

+1

13:13:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:13:58 <MakxDekkers> zakim, IPcaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:13:58 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it

13:14:01 <yaso> Phila: I think that if theres anybody on the call that is not registered do it asap

Phil Archer: I think that if theres anybody on the call that is not registered do it asap

13:14:06 <hadleybeeman> action: hadley to create first draft of agenda for negotiations (time zones, conflicts with Data Shapes WG, etc)

ACTION: hadley to create first draft of agenda for negotiations (time zones, conflicts with Data Shapes WG, etc)

13:14:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Create first draft of agenda for negotiations (time zones, conflicts with data shapes wg, etc) [on Hadley Beeman - due 2014-10-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-90 - Create first draft of agenda for negotiations (time zones, conflicts with data shapes wg, etc) [on Hadley Beeman - due 2014-10-10].

13:14:45 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: more questions for TPAC?

Hadley Beeman: more questions for TPAC?

13:15:19 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: are ready to publish the UC document?

Hadley Beeman: are ready to publish the UC document?

13:15:24 <hadleybeeman> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html

Hadley Beeman: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html

13:15:24 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:15:24 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:15:36 <yaso> hadleybeeman: Bernadetteloscio, do you want to make any comments?

Hadley Beeman: Bernadetteloscio, do you want to make any comments?

13:16:08 <yaso> bernadetteLoscio: I didn’t work at the document last week, I wasn’t really involved in the revision of the document

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I didn’t work at the document last week, I wasn’t really involved in the revision of the document

13:16:22 <yaso> … I think that Deirdree knows better than me

… I think that Deirdre knows better than me

13:16:35 <hadleybeeman> s/Deirdree/Deirdre
13:16:38 <yaso> Bernadetteloscio: I think that it should be published,

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think that it should be published,

13:17:01 <yaso> … we discusssed yesterday at the vocab call about the possibility of having new use cases

… we discusssed yesterday at the vocab call about the possibility of having new use cases

13:17:04 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:17:04 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:17:24 <phila> ->http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html My version of the UCR

Phil Archer: ->http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html My version of the UCR

13:17:29 <yaso> Phila: If you do have time to go throught the document, I recommend it

Phil Archer: If you do have time to go throught the document, I recommend it

13:17:33 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit

Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit

13:17:52 <phila> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0031.html My mail about it

Phil Archer: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0031.html My mail about it

13:17:59 <SumitPurohit> sorry for being late....

Sumit Purohit: sorry for being late....

13:18:01 <yaso> … because when we decide whether or not include some best practices or not in the document we should be based on that

… because when we decide whether or not include some best practices or not in the document we should be based on that

13:18:15 <ericstephan> @sumit - glad you made it :-)

Eric Stephan: @sumit - glad you made it :-)

13:18:36 <yaso> … I need the WG knows that this is happening, I added one Use case about data tracking

… I need the WG knows that this is happening, I added one Use case about data tracking

13:19:15 <yaso> … there is a number of issues raided by a bunched of people

… there is a number of issues raided by a bunched of people

13:19:31 <SumitPurohit> @eric : 6AM challenge

Sumit Purohit: @eric : 6AM challenge

13:19:46 <yaso> … I have closed some of them, but I need the group recognize that it was my iniciative

… I have closed some of them, but I need the group recognize that it was my iniciative

13:20:05 <phila> issue-31

Phil Archer: ISSUE-31

13:20:05 <trackbot> issue-31 -- Define categories for the use cases based on the level of use cases details -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-31 -- Define categories for the use cases based on the level of use cases details -- open

13:20:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/31

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/31

13:20:09 <yaso> … If I haven’t done that, there will be a bunch of issues there to be closed

… If I haven’t done that, there will be a bunch of issues there to be closed

13:20:42 <yaso> q?

q?

13:20:53 <MakxDekkers> it's ok

Makx Dekkers: it's ok

13:21:07 <MakxDekkers> close yes

Makx Dekkers: close yes

13:21:10 <yaso> hadleybeeman:  it’s ok to close that?

Hadley Beeman: it’s ok to close that?

13:21:11 <phila> close issue-31

Phil Archer: close ISSUE-31

13:21:11 <trackbot> Closed issue-31.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-31.

13:21:29 <phila> issue-47?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-47?

13:21:29 <trackbot> issue-47 -- Do we need the metrics from Bio2RDF? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-47 -- Do we need the metrics from Bio2RDF? -- open

13:21:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/47

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/47

13:21:33 <yaso> phila:  there’s another issue that I raised

Phil Archer: there’s another issue that I raised

13:21:42 <yaso> … but I have to ask Laufer to review

… but I have to ask Laufer to review

13:21:45 <laufer> Zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, unmute me

13:21:45 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

13:22:00 <phila> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html#UC-Bio2RDF

Phil Archer: http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html#UC-Bio2RDF

13:22:15 <yaso> … Laufer,  if you can confirm if you are happy with that...

… Laufer, if you can confirm if you are happy with that...

13:22:29 <laufer> "Thirty five datasets (http://download.bio2rdf.org/release/3/release.html) were generated as part of the Bio2RDF 3 release. Several of the datasets are themselves collections of datasets that are now available as one resource. Each dataset has been loaded into a dataset specific SPARQL endpoint using Openlink Virtuoso."

Carlos Laufer: "Thirty five datasets (http://download.bio2rdf.org/release/3/release.html) were generated as part of the Bio2RDF 3 release. Several of the datasets are themselves collections of datasets that are now available as one resource. Each dataset has been loaded into a dataset specific SPARQL endpoint using Openlink Virtuoso."

13:22:31 <yaso> laufer: I think that you can supress the list, but if we can put a link

Carlos Laufer: I think that you can supress the list, but if we can put a link

13:22:37 <yaso> … to the documents, like this

… to the documents, like this

13:22:47 <phila> action: Phil to suppress detail of Bio2RDF Use case and incldue link as Laufer suggests

ACTION: Phil to suppress detail of Bio2RDF Use case and incldue link as Laufer suggests

13:22:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Suppress detail of bio2rdf use case and incldue link as laufer suggests [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-91 - Suppress detail of bio2rdf use case and incldue link as laufer suggests [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-10].

13:22:49 <yaso> … so you can supress the list that I’ve added to the paragraph

… so you can supress the list that I’ve added to the paragraph

13:22:55 <phila> close issue-47

Phil Archer: close ISSUE-47

13:22:55 <trackbot> Closed issue-47.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-47.

13:22:59 <hadleybeeman> Laufer's email reply http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0032.html

Hadley Beeman: Laufer's email reply http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0032.html

13:23:04 <yaso> Phila: with that done, we can close the issue, I think

Phil Archer: with that done, we can close the issue, I think

13:23:04 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:23:04 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:23:06 <yaso> Laufer: yes

Carlos Laufer: yes

13:23:09 <phila> issue-42

Phil Archer: ISSUE-42

13:23:09 <trackbot> issue-42 -- Have we covered closed data? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-42 -- Have we covered closed data? -- open

13:23:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/42

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/42

13:23:23 <yaso> Phila: Isse 42 was raised by ericstephan

Phil Archer: Isse 42 was raised by ericstephan

13:23:38 <yaso> … you’se that use cases are all about open data

… you’se that use cases are all about open data

13:23:53 <yaso> … we have to decide today if we are missing use cases about closed data

… we have to decide today if we are missing use cases about closed data

13:23:58 <markharrison> zakim, unmute me

Mark Harrison: zakim, unmute me

13:23:58 <Zakim> markharrison should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison should no longer be muted

13:24:15 <yaso> … ericstepan has a good use case too

… ericstepan has a good use case too

13:24:25 <yaso> … we could add that use cases

… we could add that use cases

13:25:01 <hadleybeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

13:25:03 <yaso> … my question to the group is: even that there are no use cases of closed data today at the document, should we publish it or

… my question to the group is: even that there are no use cases of closed data today at the document, should we publish it or

13:25:07 <yaso> q+

q+

13:25:24 <yaso> .. os should we wait to add new use cases to the document?

.. os should we wait to add new use cases to the document?

13:25:38 <markharrison> q+

Mark Harrison: q+

13:25:55 <ericstephan> +q

Eric Stephan: +q

13:26:00 <yaso> hadleybeeman: I agree that is important that we cover use cases on closed data

Hadley Beeman: I agree that is important that we cover use cases on closed data

13:26:04 <hadleybeeman> ack me

Hadley Beeman: ack me

13:26:18 <yaso> phila:  depends on the group decision

Phil Archer: depends on the group decision

13:26:19 <hadleybeeman> ack yaso

Hadley Beeman: ack yaso

13:26:44 <gatemezi> I think we might see the coverage of the new use case w.r.t. the requirements and challenges

Ghislain Atemezing: I think we might see the coverage of the new use case w.r.t. the requirements and challenges

13:26:45 <newton> Yaso: I want to say that adding new UC about closed data is more important than publish

Yaso Córdova: I want to say that adding new UC about closed data is more important than publish [ Scribe Assist by Newton Calegari ]

13:27:01 <adler1> I thought we had agreed to Open Data scope in March

Steven Adler: I thought we had agreed to Open Data scope in March

13:27:13 <newton> ... I really think that we need to cover UC about closed data before we publish

Newton Calegari: ... I really think that we need to cover UC about closed data before we publish

13:27:14 <gatemezi> ...if they are overlap, we might not integrate new ones

Ghislain Atemezing: ...if they are overlap, we might not integrate new ones

13:27:18 <yaso> scribe: yaso
13:27:47 <yaso> hadleybeeman:  the discussion was for the entire WG,

Hadley Beeman: the discussion was for the entire WG,

13:28:04 <hadleybeeman> ack mark

Hadley Beeman: ack mark

13:29:27 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

13:29:41 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#UC-BuildingEye

Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#UC-BuildingEye

13:30:26 <yaso> ericstephan: we should be able to articulate at least one requirement for closed data

Eric Stephan: we should be able to articulate at least one requirement for closed data

13:30:27 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Closed_Data_Examples

Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Closed_Data_Examples

13:30:51 <SumitPurohit> +q

Sumit Purohit: +q

13:30:54 <yaso> … the ideia would be that there’s a requirement on the document for closed data

… the ideia would be that there’s a requirement on the document for closed data

13:30:59 <hadleybeeman> ack sumit

Hadley Beeman: ack sumit

13:31:36 <yaso> SumitPurohit: that’s already in the uc document

Sumit Purohit: that’s already in the uc document

13:31:55 <adler1> gotta drop

Steven Adler: gotta drop

13:31:56 <Zakim> -Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve

13:31:59 <phila> q+ to ask ericstephan and SumitPurohit whether they have a handy list of requirements from those existing UCs

Phil Archer: q+ to ask ericstephan and SumitPurohit whether they have a handy list of requirements from those existing UCs

13:32:13 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:32:13 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to ask ericstephan and SumitPurohit whether they have a handy list of requirements from those existing UCs

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to ask ericstephan and SumitPurohit whether they have a handy list of requirements from those existing UCs

13:32:33 <nathalia_> yaso has nathalia_

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: yaso has nathalia_

13:32:34 <yaso> phila: do you eric and sumit, have a list of this requirements?

Phil Archer: do you eric and sumit, have a list of this requirements?

13:33:27 <yaso> … if we were are able to deliver some requirements, if it’s ready to go and can be added right now to the document so this would be a solution

… if we were are able to deliver some requirements, if it’s ready to go and can be added right now to the document so this would be a solution

13:33:53 <newton> yaso has nathalia_

Newton Calegari: yaso has nathalia_

13:33:58 <newton> zakim, yaso has nathalia_

Newton Calegari: zakim, yaso has nathalia_

13:33:58 <Zakim> +nathalia_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia_; got it

13:33:59 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: how much important is to reach that now?

Hadley Beeman: how much important is to reach that now?

13:34:26 <yaso> hadleybeeman: understanding that we can continue the publish, we can go back an extend it later

Hadley Beeman: understanding that we can continue the publish, we can go back an extend it later

13:35:09 <phila> q+ to make a suggestion on timing

Phil Archer: q+ to make a suggestion on timing

13:35:29 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:35:29 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to make a suggestion on timing

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to make a suggestion on timing

13:35:44 <yaso> phila: the deadline that we have we agreed in the last week

Phil Archer: the deadline that we have we agreed in the last week

13:35:46 <gatemezi> @ericstephan- Is there any relation between closed data and the deep web resources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web ?

Ghislain Atemezing: @ericstephan- Is there any relation between closed data and the deep web resources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web ?

13:36:04 <yaso> … we want to share progress

… we want to share progress

13:36:26 <yaso> … if we want to go ahead and publish it as it is today, it could be published on tuesday

… if we want to go ahead and publish it as it is today, it could be published on tuesday

13:36:34 <yaso> … if we want to delay in one week

… if we want to delay in one week

13:36:44 <yaso> … it could be enought

… it could be enought

13:37:09 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:37:14 <yaso> … what I would suggest is that any additions to the UC document will be made untill

… what I would suggest is that any additions to the UC document will be made untill

13:37:27 <yaso> … tuesday

… tuesday

13:37:29 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:37:29 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

13:38:06 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:38:06 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:38:10 <yaso> hadleybeeman:  Phil just proposed a timeline but the decision depends on the editor’s decision

Hadley Beeman: Phil just proposed a timeline but the decision depends on the editor’s decision

13:38:22 <yaso> Bernadetteloscio: I agree with Phil

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I agree with Phil

13:38:29 <phila> ack laufer

Phil Archer: ack laufer

13:38:30 <SumitPurohit> +1 for timeline

Sumit Purohit: +1 for timeline

13:38:40 <ericstephan> example candidate requirement for closed data...R-DataUnavailabilityReference  Some open data is related to data intentionally closed, taken offline, but the citation of the closed data source is important to data users as well as its designation as closed. Motivation:  (use cases):  BuildingEye

Eric Stephan: example candidate requirement for closed data...R-DataUnavailabilityReference Some open data is related to data intentionally closed, taken offline, but the citation of the closed data source is important to data users as well as its designation as closed. Motivation: (use cases): BuildingEye

13:39:05 <yaso> Laufer: the concern it’s important, but if a new requirement is raised now, all the uc document has to pass for a revision

Carlos Laufer: the concern it’s important, but if a new requirement is raised now, all the uc document has to pass for a revision

13:39:18 <yaso> laufer: and I think that we don’t have time now

Carlos Laufer: and I think that we don’t have time now

13:39:54 <yaso> phila: that’s something that eric is offering to do

Phil Archer: that’s something that eric is offering to do

13:40:10 <yaso> … this time next week we would be able to decide

… this time next week we would be able to decide

13:40:12 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:40:12 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:40:16 <ericstephan> I am willing to even forgo house work this weekend do to this

Eric Stephan: I am willing to even forgo house work this weekend do to this

13:40:18 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:40:23 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: everyone agrees?

Hadley Beeman: everyone agrees?

13:40:24 <yaso> +1

+1

13:40:25 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:40:25 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:40:42 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:40:48 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:40:51 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:40:55 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

13:40:55 <nathalia_> +1

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: +1

13:41:00 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:41:26 <ericstephan> :-) @phila

Eric Stephan: :-) @phila

13:42:02 <phila> ack markharrison

Phil Archer: ack markharrison

13:42:37 <hadleybeeman> action: eric stephan to gather closed-data requirements from the BuildingEye, Wind and GS1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases

ACTION: eric stephan to gather closed-data requirements from the BuildingEye, Wind and GS1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases

13:42:37 <trackbot> 'eric' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ek1, estephan).

Trackbot IRC Bot: 'eric' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ek1, estephan).

13:42:44 <yaso> markharrison: I’m going to do the action

Mark Harrison: I’m going to do the action

13:42:51 <yaso> … for the next week

… for the next week

13:42:55 <hadleybeeman> action: ericstephan to gather closed-data requirements from the BuildingEye, Wind and GS1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases

ACTION: ericstephan to gather closed-data requirements from the BuildingEye, Wind and GS1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases

13:42:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Gather closed-data requirements from the buildingeye, wind and gs1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-10-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-92 - Gather closed-data requirements from the buildingeye, wind and gs1 use cases, and match requirements to any other use cases [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-10-10].

13:43:01 <yaso> zakim, who’s making noise?

zakim, who’s making noise?

13:43:01 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso.

13:43:01 <ericstephan> Can Tuesday be COB Pacific time (US)

Eric Stephan: Can Tuesday be COB Pacific time (US)

13:43:04 <phila> I'll do what I can to support that markharrison  of course

Phil Archer: I'll do what I can to support that markharrison of course

13:43:11 <hadleybeeman> action: mark to finish gs1 closed-data use case with Phila

ACTION: mark to finish gs1 closed-data use case with Phila

13:43:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Finish gs1 closed-data use case with phila [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-10-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-93 - Finish gs1 closed-data use case with phila [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-10-10].

13:43:13 <yaso> Zakim, who’s noisy?

Zakim, who’s noisy?

13:43:13 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso.

13:43:23 <Zakim> +Yaso.a

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso.a

13:43:47 <ericstephan> +q

Eric Stephan: +q

13:44:09 <phila> Yes, Eric. Actually I'd say 'Tuesday' is COB Hawaiin time

Phil Archer: Yes, Eric. Actually I'd say 'Tuesday' is COB Hawaiin time

13:44:38 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

13:44:39 <yaso> wich might help us to identificate requirements, perhaps

wich might help us to identificate requirements, perhaps

13:45:06 <yaso> ericstephan:  in order to be sincronized to the f2f meeting

Eric Stephan: in order to be sincronized to the f2f meeting

13:45:40 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: phil or bernadette do you have any thoughts on this?

Hadley Beeman: phil or bernadette do you have any thoughts on this?

13:45:46 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:45:46 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:46:30 <yaso> phila: that might be something that we end up doing

Phil Archer: that might be something that we end up doing

13:46:51 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: Bernadette, do you want to add something?

Hadley Beeman: Bernadette, do you want to add something?

13:47:11 <yaso> Bernadetteloscio: like eric said, we are working on something for the data usage vocab

Bernadette Farias Loscio: like eric said, we are working on something for the data usage vocab

13:47:25 <yaso> … and we’re looking for some data usage requirements

… and we’re looking for some data usage requirements

13:47:53 <yaso> … I’m gonna send the link of the page in wich we are working now

… I’m gonna send the link of the page in wich we are working now

13:48:05 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:48:05 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:48:14 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: I think that we agree about the UC document

Hadley Beeman: I think that we agree about the UC document

13:48:25 <ericstephan> @Bernadette thank you!

Eric Stephan: @Bernadette thank you!

13:48:29 <yaso> .. that finishes the topic for today

.. that finishes the topic for today

13:48:54 <ericstephan> @sumit do you have time to talk today later?

Eric Stephan: @sumit do you have time to talk today later?

13:49:01 <yaso> … we had a bunch of people with tasks to review the document about URI that Tomas sent

… we had a bunch of people with tasks to review the document about URI that Tomas sent

13:49:41 <yaso> hadleybeeman: to want that this to happen in the mailing list?

Hadley Beeman: to want that this to happen in the mailing list?

13:50:01 <hadleybeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0036.html

Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0036.html

13:51:05 <yaso> MTcarrasco: If somebody has suggestions, then fine. We can add it in to the document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: If somebody has suggestions, then fine. We can add it in to the document

13:52:01 <yaso> … I maintain what I said at the document: if there is a shortening service it is a syntomn that something is wrong

… I maintain what I said at the document: if there is a shortening service it is a syntomn that something is wrong

13:52:52 <yaso> … they don’t know how to overwrite ir…

… they don’t know how to overwrite ir…

13:56:14 <MakxDekkers> Not many people type URIs

Makx Dekkers: Not many people type URIs

13:56:31 <MakxDekkers> They are copied and pasted at most

Makx Dekkers: They are copied and pasted at most

13:56:33 <laufer> I do not type URIs

Carlos Laufer: I do not type URIs

13:56:59 <MakxDekkers> You find URIs in metadata or in documents, and you just click

Makx Dekkers: You find URIs in metadata or in documents, and you just click

13:57:40 <laufer> People use searching mechanisms to find resources identified  by URIs

Carlos Laufer: People use searching mechanisms to find resources identified by URIs

13:58:23 <phila> We have one requirement (only) relevant to this. See http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html#R-PersistentIdentification

Phil Archer: We have one requirement (only) relevant to this. See http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp-1/usecasesv1.html#R-PersistentIdentification

13:58:30 <phila> It says An identifier for a particular resource should be resolvable on the Web and associated for the foreseeable future with a single resource or with information about why the resource is no longer available.

Phil Archer: It says An identifier for a particular resource should be resolvable on the Web and associated for the foreseeable future with a single resource or with information about why the resource is no longer available.

13:58:50 <laufer> It is interesting to have short URIs but the document address URIs as it it only identifying documents

Carlos Laufer: It is interesting to have short URIs but the document address URIs as it it only identifying documents

13:58:56 <MTCarrasco> Most people I see around type URI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Most people I see around type URI

13:59:20 <MakxDekkers> My point would be that there is no 'best practice', just several ways of doing this

Makx Dekkers: My point would be that there is no 'best practice', just several ways of doing this

13:59:25 <laufer> And I thinkk that guessing depends on culture

Carlos Laufer: And I thinkk that guessing depends on culture

13:59:38 <SumitPurohit> +q

Sumit Purohit: +q

13:59:44 <MakxDekkers> No need to invent new practice

Makx Dekkers: No need to invent new practice

14:01:25 <phila> I agree with MTCarrasco that we need to make real progress writing the other deliverables as Hadley is saying

Phil Archer: I agree with MTCarrasco that we need to make real progress writing the other deliverables as Hadley is saying

14:02:02 <markharrison> Long URIs require a higher pixel count in QR codes, which makes them more troublesome to scan at a distance or with poor camera optics on smartphones.  Shorter URIs require a lower pixel count in QR codes and are therefore more 'chunky' and easier to scan at a distance (e.g. on posters in billboards and subways)

Mark Harrison: Long URIs require a higher pixel count in QR codes, which makes them more troublesome to scan at a distance or with poor camera optics on smartphones. Shorter URIs require a lower pixel count in QR codes and are therefore more 'chunky' and easier to scan at a distance (e.g. on posters in billboards and subways)

14:02:05 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: in terms of moving forward,

Hadley Beeman: in terms of moving forward,

14:02:35 <yaso> … the URI persistence stuff and the Use Cases document, MTCarrasco, can you pickup an action for the next week?

… the URI persistence stuff and the Use Cases document, MTCarrasco, can you pickup an action for the next week?

14:02:55 <yaso> MTCarrasco: this would require and make some phisical survey

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: this would require and make some phisical survey

14:03:05 <Zakim> -markharrison

Zakim IRC Bot: -markharrison

14:03:15 <yaso> Hadleybeeman: would you be willing to start part of this work?

Hadley Beeman: would you be willing to start part of this work?

14:03:18 <SumitPurohit> Thanks Everyone

Sumit Purohit: Thanks Everyone

14:03:19 <nathalia_> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:03:20 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:03:20 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks!!!

14:03:21 <laufer> bye all

Carlos Laufer: bye all

14:03:21 <yaso> Thanks everyone!

Thanks everyone!

14:03:24 <Zakim> -EricStephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricStephan

14:03:25 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:03:25 <Zakim> -??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P13

14:03:25 <yaso> Bye!

Bye!

14:03:26 <ericstephan> @Bernadette I sent you an email

Eric Stephan: @Bernadette I sent you an email

14:03:27 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

14:03:29 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit

Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit

14:03:31 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila

14:03:31 <BernadetteLoscio> tchau!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: tchau!!!

14:03:33 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:03:38 <yaso> RssAgent, generate minutes

RssAgent, generate minutes

14:03:49 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

14:03:52 <hadleybeeman> action: mtcarrasco to work with use case editors on finding a way to find use cases for URI persistence

ACTION: mtcarrasco to work with use case editors on finding a way to find use cases for URI persistence

14:03:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Work with use case editors on finding a way to find use cases for uri persistence [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-10-10].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-94 - Work with use case editors on finding a way to find use cases for uri persistence [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-10-10].

14:03:56 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:04:15 <markharrison> bye

Mark Harrison: bye

14:04:46 <hadleybeeman> Thank you, yaso, for wonderful scribing!  We covered a lot today.  You're a champ.

Hadley Beeman: Thank you, yaso, for wonderful scribing! We covered a lot today. You're a champ.

14:08:56 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, MakxDekkers, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, MakxDekkers, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

14:08:57 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:08:57 <Zakim> Attendees were phila, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, Eric, markharrison, Steve, laufer, BernadetteLoscio, MakxDekkers, SumitPurohit, nathalia_, Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were phila, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, Eric, markharrison, Steve, laufer, BernadetteLoscio, MakxDekkers, SumitPurohit, nathalia_, Yaso

14:09:24 <yaso> Hadley: Tks! :-)

Hadley Beeman: Tks! :-)



Formatted by CommonScribe