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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 19 September 2014

Seen
Antoine Isaac, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Mark Harrison, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Sumit Purohit, Yaso Córdova
Regrets
Antoine Isaac, Makx Dekkers, Deirdre Lee, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto
Chair
Yaso Córdova
Scribe
Caroline Burle
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
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12:58:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:58:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:58:18 <trackbot> Date: 19 September 2014
12:59:16 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140919

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140919

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13:00:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:00:25 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit

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13:00:30 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:00:30 <Zakim> +phila; got it

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13:01:10 <Zakim> +newton

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13:01:25 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim,  +39.349.096.aaaa is RiccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aaaa is RiccardoAlbertoni

13:01:26 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it

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13:01:56 <EricKauz> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me

13:01:56 <Zakim> +EricKauz; got it

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13:02:30 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

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13:03:06 <yaso> Of course, but I’ll need your help, since I’m kind of away of the calls :-)

Yaso Córdova: Of course, but I’ll need your help, since I’m kind of away of the calls :-)

13:05:35 <phila> chair: yaso
13:05:54 <phila> Regrets: Antoine, Makx, Deirdre, IgBittencourt
13:06:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:06:19 <antoine> zakim, IPCaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPCaller is me

13:06:19 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:06:35 <phila> regrets- Antoine

Phil Archer: regrets- Antoine

13:06:39 <antoine> Regrets- Antoine

Antoine Isaac: Regrets- Antoine

13:06:46 <Caroline_> Yes!

Caroline Burle: Yes!

13:06:53 <phila> scribe: Caroline_

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

13:07:08 <newton> yes

Newton Calegari: yes

13:07:13 <Caroline_> Yaso: Have everybody registered to TPAC?

Yaso Córdova: Have everybody registered to TPAC?

13:07:25 <Caroline_> Phil: Still not

Phil Archer: Still not

13:07:26 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:08:36 <Caroline_> +q

+q

13:08:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:08:47 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:08:47 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:08:56 <Zakim> +ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan

13:08:57 <Caroline_> ... the point of highlighting this for you is that the room is going to be very full

... the point of highlighting this for you is that the room is going to be very full

13:09:24 <Caroline_> ... we might have to change a small group to another room

... we might have to change a small group to another room

13:09:41 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:09:47 <Caroline_> ... I think there are 3 more weeks to register

... I think there are 3 more weeks to register

13:10:07 <Caroline_> ... please register soon because we need to make sure there is a room big enough for us

... please register soon because we need to make sure there is a room big enough for us

13:10:10 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

13:10:18 <phila> ack Caroline_

Phil Archer: ack Caroline_

13:10:18 <HadleyBeeman> ack caroline_

Hadley Beeman: ack caroline_

13:10:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:10:32 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q-

13:10:35 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:10:35 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:10:42 <SumitPurohit> +q

Sumit Purohit: +q

13:10:48 <HadleyBeeman> thanks Caroline_. Sorry to be missing you!

Hadley Beeman: thanks Caroline_. Sorry to be missing you!

13:10:48 <yaso> Caroline will held remotely

Yaso Córdova: Caroline will held remotely

13:10:51 <Caroline_> Caroline: I will participate remotely

Caroline Burle: I will participate remotely

13:10:53 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:11:06 <Caroline_> Yaso: anyone else will attend remotely?

Yaso Córdova: anyone else will attend remotely?

13:11:16 <markharrison> I will try to participate remotely in TPAC - not in person

Mark Harrison: I will try to participate remotely in TPAC - not in person

13:11:41 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

13:11:42 <ericstephan> I am desparately attempting to get approval for funding to travel...I will be a part of it either way...

Eric Stephan: I am desparately attempting to get approval for funding to travel...I will be a part of it either way...

13:11:43 <antoine> I may try as well, but with the time difference it won't be easy.

Antoine Isaac: I may try as well, but with the time difference it won't be easy.

13:11:55 <Caroline_> Phil: Caroline_ you are right to not register if you are attending remotely. I wonder if remotely attendees should put on the wiki

Phil Archer: Caroline_ you are right to not register if you are attending remotely. I wonder if remotely attendees should put on the wiki

13:12:04 <Caroline_> Hadley: yes, that would be nice

Hadley Beeman: yes, that would be nice

13:12:12 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:12:21 <Caroline_> Yaso: we don't have a agenda for TPAC yet

Yaso Córdova: we don't have a agenda for TPAC yet

13:12:31 <Caroline_> ... we are waiting for more confirmations

... we are waiting for more confirmations

13:12:32 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

13:12:35 <Zakim> +adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1

13:12:38 <HadleyBeeman> ack sumit

Hadley Beeman: ack sumit

13:12:46 <Caroline_> ... and then we will make the agenda soon

... and then we will make the agenda soon

13:12:57 <newton> Zakim, newton has yaso, Caroline_, nathalia

Newton Calegari: Zakim, newton has yaso, Caroline_, nathalia

13:12:57 <Zakim> +yaso, Caroline_, nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso, Caroline_, nathalia; got it

13:12:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:13:08 <adler1_> hi all

Steven Adler: hi all

13:13:16 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, [IPcaller] is me

13:13:16 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

13:13:32 <Caroline_> Hadley: I am creating a wikipage for the agenda of TPAC now

Hadley Beeman: I am creating a wikipage for the agenda of TPAC now

13:13:49 <Caroline_> Yaso: it would be better if we start with topic 3 on the agenda

Yaso Córdova: it would be better if we start with topic 3 on the agenda

13:13:58 <Caroline_> ... do you all agree?

... do you all agree?

13:14:07 <Caroline_> Hadley: yes!

Hadley Beeman: yes!

13:14:19 <Caroline_> Yaso: topic 3 is each deliverable

Yaso Córdova: topic 3 is each deliverable

13:14:34 <Caroline_> ... Bernadette and Deirdelee are not here

... Bernadette and Deirdelee are not here

13:14:39 <markharrison> Thanks, Hadley - if you can start a list of participants attending TPAC in person and those attending remotely, we'll all add our names to the corresponding list

Mark Harrison: Thanks, Hadley - if you can start a list of participants attending TPAC in person and those attending remotely, we'll all add our names to the corresponding list

13:14:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:14:47 <Caroline_> Phil: I have a few words on the use cases

Phil Archer: I have a few words on the use cases

13:15:31 <Zakim> + +44.122.333.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.122.333.aacc

13:15:36 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:15:36 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:15:39 <adler1_> I met with Tom Schenck, Chief Data Officer of Chicago and they are deploying Rasberry devices throughout the city and I discussed with him doing a use case presentation to our team

Steven Adler: I met with Tom Schenck, Chief Data Officer of Chicago and they are deploying Rasberry devices throughout the city and I discussed with him doing a use case presentation to our team

13:15:40 <markharrison> zakim, aacc is markharrison

Mark Harrison: zakim, aacc is markharrison

13:15:40 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison; got it

13:15:54 <Caroline_> ... I have talked with Deirdre and we should look at them during TPAC

... I have talked with Deirdre and we should look at them during TPAC

13:16:11 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

13:16:17 <Caroline_> ... I am concerned about the content and we should help them. Should we do it before or during TPAC?

... I am concerned about the content and we should help them. Should we do it before or during TPAC?

13:16:20 <yaso> Ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: Ack HadleyBeeman

13:16:25 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q-

13:16:43 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html Current editor's draft of the UCR

Phil Archer: -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html Current editor's draft of the UCR

13:16:51 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: my vote is to keep things being done as soon as possible because we always have things to do at TPAC

Hadley Beeman: my vote is to keep things being done as soon as possible because we always have things to do at TPAC

13:16:58 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

13:17:17 <Caroline_> yaso: next topic is best practices series

Yaso Córdova: next topic is best practices series

13:17:26 <Caroline_> ... the editors are Bernadette and Caroline_

... the editors are Bernadette and Caroline_

13:17:58 <Caroline_> ... I would like to suggest that newton could be also an editor

... I would like to suggest that newton could be also an editor

13:17:59 <Caroline_> q+

q+

13:18:00 <yaso> ok, tks Hadley!

Yaso Córdova: ok, tks Hadley!

13:18:05 <yaso> ack Caroline_

Yaso Córdova: ack Caroline_

13:18:42 <Caroline_> Caroline_: would be very helpfull if newton could be added as an editor

Caroline Burle: would be very helpfull if newton could be added as an editor

13:18:43 <yaso> The proposal is to add Newton as a series editor

Yaso Córdova: The proposal is to add Newton as a series editor

13:19:00 <yaso> q-

Yaso Córdova: q-

13:19:16 <yaso> There’s noise on the call.

Yaso Córdova: There’s noise on the call.

13:19:18 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

13:19:19 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: just the the two editors must agree on that

Hadley Beeman: just the the two editors must agree on that

13:19:27 <Caroline_> Caroline_: I will talk with Bernadette

Caroline Burle: I will talk with Bernadette

13:19:28 <yaso> zakim, who’s making noise?

Yaso Córdova: zakim, who’s making noise?

13:19:28 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso.

13:19:30 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (79%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (79%)

13:19:37 <HadleyBeeman> and the chairs of the working group should be part of the decision too, caroline_

Hadley Beeman: and the chairs of the working group should be part of the decision too, caroline_

13:19:39 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute laufer

Zakim, mute laufer

13:19:39 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:19:46 <HadleyBeeman> But we will definitely lean towards what the editors want

Hadley Beeman: But we will definitely lean towards what the editors want

13:19:47 <laufer> sorry

Carlos Laufer: sorry

13:19:58 <Caroline_> Caroline_: okay, Hadley

Caroline Burle: okay, Hadley

13:20:01 <laufer> a lot of dogs barking here...

Carlos Laufer: a lot of dogs barking here...

13:20:24 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: I think the chairs will agree with this recommendation on the editors

Hadley Beeman: I think the chairs will agree with this recommendation on the editors

13:21:18 <yaso> Talking about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

Yaso Córdova: Talking about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

13:21:24 <Caroline_> yaso: lets talk about the  URI Design and Management for Persistence:      Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

Yaso Córdova: lets talk about the URI Design and Management for Persistence: Phil, Carlos, Tomas, Flavio, Makx, Newton

13:21:33 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

13:21:40 <yaso> Ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: Ack HadleyBeeman

13:22:28 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: about the draft of the document. Does it need to be reviewed?

Hadley Beeman: about the draft of the document. Does it need to be reviewed?

13:23:35 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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13:23:47 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:23:47 <adler1_> +1 phila

Steven Adler: +1 phila

13:24:13 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

13:24:22 <yaso> ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack HadleyBeeman

13:24:39 <phila> action: phila to review the COMURI paper

ACTION: phila to review the COMURI paper

13:24:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Review the comuri paper [on Phil Archer - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-79 - Review the comuri paper [on Phil Archer - due 2014-09-26].

13:24:52 <adler1_> very interesting document

Steven Adler: very interesting document

13:25:16 <adler1_> I will share internally with my technical colleagues in IBM to get feedback

Steven Adler: I will share internally with my technical colleagues in IBM to get feedback

13:25:20 <phila> action carlos iglesias to review the COMURI

Phil Archer: action carlos iglesias to review the COMURI

13:25:21 <trackbot> 'carlos' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., carlosiglesias, claufer, dayures).

Trackbot IRC Bot: 'carlos' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., carlosiglesias, claufer, dayures).

13:25:29 <phila> action carlosIglesias to review the COMURI

Phil Archer: action carlosIglesias to review the COMURI

13:25:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Review the comuri [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-80 - Review the comuri [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-09-26].

13:26:00 <phila> action newton to review COMURI document

Phil Archer: action newton to review COMURI document

13:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Review comuri document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-81 - Review comuri document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

13:26:02 <newton> Yes, I can look the document also

Newton Calegari: Yes, I can look the document also

13:26:16 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

13:26:32 <phila> action sumit to review COMURI doc

Phil Archer: action sumit to review COMURI doc

13:26:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Review comuri doc [on Sumit Purohit - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-82 - Review comuri doc [on Sumit Purohit - due 2014-09-26].

13:26:35 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P5 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P5 is me

13:26:36 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

13:26:54 <phila> action steven to get IBM team to look at COMURI doc

Phil Archer: action steven to get IBM team to look at COMURI doc

13:26:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Get ibm team to look at comuri doc [on Steven Adler - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-83 - Get ibm team to look at comuri doc [on Steven Adler - due 2014-09-26].

13:27:31 <markharrison> Please also see this e-mail thread of some existing comments in relation to the document:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0078.html

Mark Harrison: Please also see this e-mail thread of some existing comments in relation to the document: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0078.html

13:27:45 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:29:34 <Caroline_> yaso: we can talk about number 2 on the agenda

Yaso Córdova: we can talk about number 2 on the agenda

13:29:40 <yaso> Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

Yaso Córdova: Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

13:29:49 <MTCarrasco> Caroline: I will self scribe

Caroline Burle: I will self scribe [ Scribe Assist by Manuel Carrasco Benitez ]

13:29:51 <Caroline_> ... Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: contributors are   Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

... Use of core vocabularies to improve interoperability: contributors are Bart, Eric K, Giancarlo, João Paulo, Ig

13:29:55 <HadleyBeeman1> MTCarrasco: yes, this is what we agreed at the beginning.  Write things and then review as a group and decide how to publish.

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: yes, this is what we agreed at the beginning. Write things and then review as a group and decide how to publish. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

13:29:59 <phila> MTCarrasco: just back from meeting with EU institutions on URI policy. The COMURI doc was part of that discussion. Will report in due course

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: just back from meeting with EU institutions on URI policy. The COMURI concept was fed to the Task Force.Will report in due course [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:30:22 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I amnot prepared to talk about it today

Eric Stephan: I amnot prepared to talk about it today

13:30:27 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:30:43 <MTCarrasco> Phil, did it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Phil, did it

13:30:44 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:30:45 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

13:30:49 <Caroline_> yaso: let's talk then about  Guidance on the Provision of Metadata. The contributors are Makx, Carlos, Laufer, Bernadette

Yaso Córdova: let's talk then about Guidance on the Provision of Metadata. The contributors are Makx, Carlos, Laufer, Bernadette

13:31:15 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:31:28 <Caroline_> laufer: I sent a draft of this document and Mark has written as well

Carlos Laufer: I sent a draft of this document and Mark has written as well

13:31:49 <Caroline_> ... I think we have to decide what types of metadata we want to talk about

... I think we have to decide what types of metadata we want to talk about

13:32:08 <Caroline_> ... I think we have an overlapping with the other best practices

... I think we have an overlapping with the other best practices

13:32:30 <Caroline_> ... I have organized in a way that metadata is organized in ??

... I have organized in a way that metadata is organized in ??

13:32:58 <Caroline_> ...  when people use the meatada they will have another kind of metadata and we have different ways to organized it

... when people use the meatada they will have another kind of metadata and we have different ways to organized it

13:33:17 <Caroline_> ... people who knows about license, or vocabularies, etc

... people who knows about license, or vocabularies, etc

13:33:23 <HadleyBeeman1> q+ re vocabularies

Hadley Beeman: q+ re vocabularies

13:33:52 <yaso> Ack phila

Yaso Córdova: Ack phila

13:33:52 <Caroline_> ... I think don't think we have a way to publish one or another vocabulary

... I think don't think we have a way to publish one or another vocabulary

13:34:03 <yaso> ack HadleyBeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack HadleyBeeman

13:34:03 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss vocabularies

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss vocabularies

13:34:07 <MTCarrasco> s/The COMURI doc was part of that discussion. /The COMURI concept was fed to the Task Force./
13:34:22 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: Government Linked Data Working Group

Hadley Beeman: Government Linked Data Working Group

13:34:33 <newton> Zakim, who's making noise?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's making noise?

13:34:37 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:34:37 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:34:44 <Zakim> newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (30%), phila (9%), newton (69%), laufer (15%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (30%), phila (9%), newton (69%), laufer (15%)

13:35:35 <Caroline_> phila: I believe HadleyBeeman1 is saying that we did some work on the previews linked data working group

Phil Archer: I believe HadleyBeeman1 is saying that we did some work on the previews linked data working group

13:35:46 <HadleyBeeman1> New vocabs are created regularly, and there are so many different use cases (which would need a different vocabulary)

Hadley Beeman: New vocabs are created regularly, and there are so many different use cases (which would need a different vocabulary)

13:35:46 <Caroline_> ... things change all the data

... things change all the data

13:35:59 <Caroline_> ... right now I am doing a work on which vocab we should use

... right now I am doing a work on which vocab we should use

13:36:19 <Caroline_> ...there is a lot of thoughts around that

...there is a lot of thoughts around that

13:36:28 <yaso> +1 to Phila

Yaso Córdova: +1 to Phila

13:36:30 <HadleyBeeman1> +1 phila!

Hadley Beeman: +1 phila!

13:36:31 <HadleyBeeman1> Spot on

Hadley Beeman: Spot on

13:36:35 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:36:35 <HadleyBeeman1> thank you :)

Hadley Beeman: thank you :)

13:36:38 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:36:44 <Caroline_> ... I think we should probably try to avoid naming voocabs because at the time we added them they might change

... I think we should probably try to avoid naming voocabs because at the time we added them they might change

13:36:52 <Caroline_> + 1 to phila and HadleyBeeman1

+ 1 to phila and HadleyBeeman1

13:37:07 <laufer> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata

Carlos Laufer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata

13:37:19 <Caroline_> phila: can I encourage please, through the chairs to get specific people to review the document you have written?

Phil Archer: can I encourage please, through the chairs to get specific people to review the document you have written?

13:37:28 <laufer> laufer, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: laufer, unmute me

13:37:31 <yaso> ack Laufer

Yaso Córdova: ack Laufer

13:37:36 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:37:36 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer

13:37:40 <Caroline_> zakim, unmute laufer

zakim, unmute laufer

13:37:40 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, Caroline_

13:37:52 <Caroline_> laufer: I gree that we do not have to name the vocabs

Carlos Laufer: I gree that we do not have to name the vocabs

13:38:24 <phila> q+ to raise a metadata issue

Phil Archer: q+ to raise a metadata issue

13:38:27 <Caroline_> ... it is important to name the metadata

... it is important to name the metadata

13:38:39 <antoine> q+ about types of metadata

Antoine Isaac: q+ about types of metadata

13:38:40 <Caroline_> ... e.g. metadata licenses, metadata governance, etc

... e.g. metadata licenses, metadata governance, etc

13:39:15 <phila> q+ antoine to ask about types of metadata

Phil Archer: q+ antoine to ask about types of metadata

13:39:19 <yaso> Mark, Antoine and Carlos to help with the document

Yaso Córdova: Mark, Antoine and Carlos to help with the document

13:39:20 <markharrison> +q to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

Mark Harrison: +q to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

13:39:21 <Caroline_> ... I think antoine and CarlosIglesias have thoughts about these issues

... I think antoine and CarlosIglesias have thoughts about these issues

13:39:25 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:39:25 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to raise a metadata issue

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to raise a metadata issue

13:39:28 <yaso> ack Phila

Yaso Córdova: ack Phila

13:39:29 <Caroline_> ... they might review it

... they might review it

13:39:47 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:39:47 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:39:55 <Caroline_> phila: the use case documents does include use cases with different types of metada

Phil Archer: the use case documents does include use cases with different types of metada

13:40:14 <phila> https://twitter.com/andyhedges/status/512171711530549248

Phil Archer: https://twitter.com/andyhedges/status/512171711530549248

13:40:21 <Caroline_> ... I came across another use case that I would like to share

... I came across another use case that I would like to share

13:40:32 <Caroline_> ... the high level use cases for the data use vocabs

... the high level use cases for the data use vocabs

13:41:03 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:41:15 <Caroline_> ... I came across one that the question on twitter was is there a way to??

... I came across one that the question on twitter was is there a way to??

13:41:39 <Caroline_> ... if I got a video on youtube it is usefull to me to know how many times that video have been seen

... if I got a video on youtube it is usefull to me to know how many times that video have been seen

13:41:56 <Caroline_> ... it is encouraging that someone else have seen my video

... it is encouraging that someone else have seen my video

13:42:36 <Caroline_> ... come backing on what laufer was saying. laufer asking individual people to have a look is important

... come backing on what laufer was saying. laufer asking individual people to have a look is important

13:42:39 <phila> ack antoine

Phil Archer: ack antoine

13:42:39 <Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about types of metadata

Zakim IRC Bot: antoine, you wanted to ask about types of metadata

13:42:40 <yaso> ack antoine

Yaso Córdova: ack antoine

13:42:59 <Caroline_> antoine: I am not sure I understand what should be reviewed

Antoine Isaac: I am not sure I understand what should be reviewed

13:43:27 <Caroline_> ...I see other aspects on the sections

...I see other aspects on the sections

13:43:56 <Caroline_> ... I ask what else we should do?

... I ask what else we should do?

13:44:02 <yaso> ack markharrison

Yaso Córdova: ack markharrison

13:44:02 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say that we already have two lists of metadata types at

13:44:02 <markharrison> +q to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used.  Maybe we need to recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

Mark Harrison: +q to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used. Maybe we need to recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

13:44:02 <phila> ack markharrison

Phil Archer: ack markharrison

13:44:04 <Zakim> ... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

Zakim IRC Bot: ... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata - maybe not complete - but please review and update / extend

13:44:04 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used.  Maybe we need to

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say that what phila is saying relates to Data Usage and Ordnance Survey and others being interested in how data is being used. Maybe we need to

13:44:07 <Zakim> ... recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

Zakim IRC Bot: ... recommend a way for discovering this or expressing it

13:44:08 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:44:35 <Caroline_> markharrison: there are different types of metadata in there that we can review

Mark Harrison: there are different types of metadata in there that we can review

13:44:49 <Caroline_> ... next stage is beyonf that list what we wnat to do

... next stage is beyond that list what we want to do

13:45:00 <Caroline_> ... I think we got material tehre

... I think we got material tehre

13:45:12 <Caroline_> ... it is not that we don't have types of metadata

... it is not that we don't have types of metadata

13:45:21 <newton> Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

Newton Calegari: Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

13:45:39 <Caroline_> yaso: lets talk about Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

Yaso Córdova: lets talk about Publishing and accessing versions of datasets

13:45:47 <Caroline_> ... the contributors are Flavio and newton

... the contributors are Flavio and newton

13:46:05 <Caroline_> newton: Flavio is on vacation and we are discussion it by email

Newton Calegari: Flavio is on vacation and we are discussion it by email

13:46:09 <markharrison> s/beyonf/beyond/
13:46:18 <Caroline_> ... we will start a new document and we are asking for contributions

... we will start a new document and we are asking for contributions

13:46:21 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Publishing_and_accessing_versions_of_datasets

13:46:23 <markharrison> s/wnat/want/
13:46:29 <Caroline_> yaso: anyone could contribute?

Yaso Córdova: anyone could contribute?

13:46:39 <HadleyBeeman1> Newton, where are you on it?

Hadley Beeman: Newton, where are you on it?

13:46:52 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: where is the project? which part are you working on?

Hadley Beeman: where is the project? which part are you working on?

13:46:58 <Caroline_> newton: we are in the beggining

Newton Calegari: we are in the beggining

13:47:10 <Caroline_> ... we are discusssing ideas of what put in the document

... we are discusssing ideas of what put in the document

13:47:14 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman1: thanks

Hadley Beeman: thanks

13:47:14 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:47:15 <MTCarrasco> I am interested in versions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I am interested in versions

13:47:29 <HadleyBeeman1> newton, let us know if we can help.  Including MTCarrasco ^

Hadley Beeman: newton, let us know if we can help. Including MTCarrasco ^

13:47:39 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: is interested in working in the versions because it is part of what will be in my document

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: is interested in working in the versions because it is part of what will be in my document

13:47:45 <Caroline_> newton: I will send you an email

Newton Calegari: I will send you an email

13:47:50 <Caroline_> yaso: topi 5

Yaso Córdova: topi 5

13:48:01 <yaso> Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: Mark, Antoine

Yaso Córdova: Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: Mark, Antoine

13:48:01 <newton> action newton send email to Tomas about dataset versions document

Newton Calegari: action newton send email to Tomas about dataset versions document

13:48:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Send email to tomas about dataset versions document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-84 - Send email to tomas about dataset versions document [on Newton Calegari - due 2014-09-26].

13:48:09 <MTCarrasco> Version identificationis already in COMURI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Version identificationis already in COMURI

13:48:11 <Caroline_> ..  Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets:  contritbutors are    Mark, Antoine

.. Making controlled vocabularies accessible as URI sets: contritbutors are Mark, Antoine

13:48:24 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:48:25 <Caroline_> markharrison: I will have updates next time

Mark Harrison: I will have updates next time

13:48:50 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

13:49:02 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (84%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (84%)

13:49:21 <Caroline_> antoine: I am making an introduction

Antoine Isaac: I am making an introduction

13:50:07 <antoine> repeating what I've said...

Antoine Isaac: repeating what I've said...

13:50:15 <antoine> I've read Mark's document

Antoine Isaac: I've read Mark's document

13:50:27 <phila> action: Mark to respond to Antoine's comments and update intro on making URI sets accessible

ACTION: Mark to respond to Antoine's comments and update intro on making URI sets accessible

13:50:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-09-26].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-85 - Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-09-26].

13:50:28 <antoine> ... there is some difficulty about the scope

Antoine Isaac: ... there is some difficulty about the scope

13:50:35 <antoine> ... but after that it's great

Antoine Isaac: ... but after that it's great

13:50:46 <antoine> ... so with a carefully worded intro, we're almost finsihed!

Antoine Isaac: ... so with a carefully worded intro, we're almost finsihed!

13:50:53 <antoine> <end of scribing?

Antoine Isaac: <end of scribing>

13:51:00 <antoine> s/?/>
13:51:12 <newton> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

Newton Calegari: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

13:51:15 <phila> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication

Phil Archer: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication

13:51:24 <yaso> Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

Yaso Córdova: Technical factors for consideration when choosing data sets for publication: Nathalia, Flavio

13:51:29 <Caroline_> I am scribing, I just had problems understading antoine

I am scribing, I just had problems understading antoine

13:51:44 <Caroline_> yaso: let's talk about  Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation contributors are     Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

Yaso Córdova: let's talk about Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation contributors are Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

13:51:55 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

13:52:07 <Caroline_> nathalia: we are reading the use cases and writing our ideas on the wiki https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: we are reading the use cases and writing our ideas on the wiki https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_for_consideration_when_choosing_data_sets_for_publication

13:52:14 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:52:16 <Caroline_> nathalia: does anyone wants to help?

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: does anyone wants to help?

13:52:18 <yaso> Ack phila

Yaso Córdova: Ack phila

13:52:29 <Caroline_> phila: I will put in touch with someone who could hlep

Phil Archer: I will put in touch with someone who could help

13:52:43 <HadleyBeeman1> s/hlep/help
13:53:03 <Caroline_> ... I will put in contact with someone knows about this

... I will put in contact with someone knows about this

13:53:17 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:53:43 <MTCarrasco> Newton version http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant-dimensions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Newton version http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant-dimensions

13:53:49 <Caroline_> ... adler1_ knows a lot about it and also might have a conversation with nathalia and flavio

... adler1_ knows a lot about it and also might have a conversation with nathalia and flavio

13:54:06 <Caroline_> ... so I am voluntering adler1_ to help them

... so I am voluntering adler1_ to help them

13:54:24 <Caroline_> adler1_: specially if we can do it at TPAC

Steven Adler: specially if we can do it at TPAC

13:54:35 <nathalia> thanks

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: thanks

13:54:54 <Caroline_> yaso: next topic  Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation      Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

Yaso Córdova: next topic Technical factors affecting potential use of open data for innovation, efficiency and commercial exploitation Vagner, Nathalia, Hadley, Yaso

13:55:06 <hadleybeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

13:55:07 <Caroline_> yaso: we will focus on open data for this topic

Yaso Córdova: we will focus on open data for this topic

13:55:15 <Caroline_> ... does everybody agree on that?

... does everybody agree on that?

13:55:17 <yaso> ack Hadleybeeman

Yaso Córdova: ack Hadleybeeman

13:55:21 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I think we can define that

Hadley Beeman: I think we can define that

13:55:32 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:55:32 <phila> nathalia - take a look at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/images/c/c0/Paper_Publishing_high-value_datasets_as_a_priority.pdf for the European work on prioritisation od datasets

Phil Archer: nathalia - take a look at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/images/c/c0/Paper_Publishing_high-value_datasets_as_a_priority.pdf for the European work on prioritisation od datasets

13:55:35 <Caroline_> ... personally I don't think it makes sense to use only open data

... personally I don't think it makes sense to use only open data

13:55:49 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

13:56:08 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/

Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/

13:56:16 <Caroline_> ... we can decide what should be written, so if we decide as a group to write more tha open data we should do taht

... we can decide what should be written, so if we decide as a group to write more tha open data we should do taht

13:56:32 <Caroline_> phila: the workshop of the end of the year oculd be helpfull

Phil Archer: the workshop of the end of the year oculd be helpfull

13:56:39 <nathalia> ok phila

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: ok phila

13:57:13 <Caroline_> ... it is not all necessarly open data

... it is not all necessarly open data

13:57:27 <Caroline_> ... there was a lot of commercial use of this

... there was a lot of commercial use of this

13:57:46 <Caroline_> ... companies are not willing to shre their data but they use open data to mikx with their data

... companies are not willing to shre their data but they use open data to mikx with their data

13:58:11 <Caroline_> ... who might have travel budget the workshop will have many conversations

... who might have travel budget the workshop will have many conversations

13:58:51 <phila> The agenda for Lisbon is at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/agenda

Phil Archer: The agenda for Lisbon is at http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/workshop/lisbon/agenda

13:58:52 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I would lik to consider participating

Eric Kauz: I would lik to consider participating

13:59:14 <newton> Zakim, who's talking?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's talking?

13:59:15 <phila> s/ericstephan/ericKauz/
13:59:25 <Zakim> newton, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: phila (13%), adler1 (54%), markharrison (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: phila (13%), adler1 (54%), markharrison (5%)

14:00:25 <Caroline_> Adler1_ we discussed an use case on API

Adler1_ we discussed an use case on API

14:00:47 <hadleybeeman> Raspberry Pis for internet of things sensors? And self-publishing APIs? sounds fun, adler1!

Hadley Beeman: Raspberry Pis for internet of things sensors? And self-publishing APIs? sounds fun, adler1!

14:01:01 <Caroline_> ... I will set up a call with them

... I will set up a call with them

14:01:09 <Caroline_> phila: please invite me for the call

Phil Archer: please invite me for the call

14:01:10 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1

14:01:21 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:01:21 <Caroline_> yaso: let's finish the meeting

Yaso Córdova: let's finish the meeting

14:01:25 <Zakim> -EricKauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricKauz

14:01:27 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:01:28 <Caroline_> thank you! bye!

thank you! bye!

14:01:33 <RiccardoAlbertoni> thanks, Bye,

Riccardo Albertoni: thanks, Bye,

14:01:33 <SumitPurohit> Thanks Everyone.

Sumit Purohit: Thanks Everyone.

14:01:34 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

14:01:34 <markharrison> Bye!  Have a good weekend!

Mark Harrison: Bye! Have a good weekend!

14:01:34 <laufer> bye all

Carlos Laufer: bye all

14:01:34 <CarlosIglesias> bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye!

14:01:36 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:01:36 <Zakim> -newton

Zakim IRC Bot: -newton

14:01:38 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila

14:01:39 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

14:01:40 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias

14:01:43 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni

14:01:44 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit

Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit

14:01:47 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:01:48 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:01:48 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.609.947.aabb, SumitPurohit, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, antoine, laufer, ericstephan, adler1, yaso, Caroline_, nathalia, CarlosIglesias,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.609.947.aabb, SumitPurohit, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, EricKauz, HadleyBeeman, antoine, laufer, ericstephan, adler1, yaso, Caroline_, nathalia, CarlosIglesias,

14:01:48 <Zakim> ... +44.122.333.aacc, markharrison, MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.122.333.aacc, markharrison, MTCarrasco



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