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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 29 August 2014

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Antoine Isaac, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Ivan Herman, Jeremy Debattista, Makx Dekkers, Mark Harrison, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler
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13:08:48 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/08/29-dwbp-irc

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13:09:04 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public

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13:09:14 <cgueret> topic: minutes from last week

1. minutes from last week

13:09:17 <deirdrelee> Today's agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140829

Deirdre Lee: Today's agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140829

13:09:31 <Zakim> +??P17

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13:10:09 <cgueret> PROPOSED: approve last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-08-22

PROPOSED: approve last week minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-08-22

13:10:28 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:10:33 <cgueret> 0 - wasn't on the call

Christophe Gueret: 0 - wasn't on the call

13:10:40 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:10:41 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

13:10:48 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:10:54 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:10:54 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:10:58 <Ig_Bittencourt> 0

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: 0

13:11:05 <RiccardoAlbertoni> 0

Riccardo Albertoni: 0

13:11:05 <cgueret> RESOLVED: approved last week minutes

RESOLVED: approved last week minutes

13:11:09 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:11:09 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:11:26 <markharrison> No

Mark Harrison: No

13:11:31 <laufer> yes

Carlos Laufer: yes

13:11:32 <cgueret> TOPIC: TPAC

2. TPAC

13:11:33 <deirdrelee> scribe: cgueret

(Scribe set to Christophe Gueret)

13:11:48 <antoine> how many participants of the group are going there?

Antoine Isaac: how many participants of the group are going there?

13:11:56 <cgueret> deirdrelee: not registered yet, not sure will go

Deirdre Lee: not registered yet, not sure will go

13:12:08 <Ig_Bittencourt> I will probably be there.

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: I will probably be there.

13:12:17 <cgueret> ivan: best to register only if you know you'll really go ;-)

Ivan Herman: best to register only if you know you'll really go ;-)

13:12:56 <cgueret> Zakim, who is speaking ?

Zakim, who is speaking ?

13:13:09 <Zakim> cgueret, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (32%), EricKauz (7%), adler1 (19%)

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (32%), EricKauz (7%), adler1 (19%)

13:13:19 <Zakim> -??P17

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13:13:19 <cgueret> EricKauz: not sure I will go either

Eric Kauz: not sure I will go either

13:13:42 <cgueret> deirdrelee: will there be remote participation ?

Deirdre Lee: will there be remote participation ?

13:13:55 <laufer> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DWBP

Carlos Laufer: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DWBP

13:13:56 <cgueret> ivan: not sure for video, phone will be available for sure

Ivan Herman: not sure for video, phone will be available for sure

13:14:04 <Zakim> +??P17

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13:14:30 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P17 is me

Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P17 is me

13:14:30 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it

13:15:06 <cgueret> ivan: advance reg closes on Oct 8, late is open until the day of the conference

Ivan Herman: advance reg closes on Oct 8, late is open until the day of the conference

13:15:59 <cgueret> Topic: open issues and raised issues

3. open issues and raised issues

13:16:48 <cgueret> deirdrelee: there is a lot of properties we re-used across all the documents

Deirdre Lee: there is a lot of properties we re-used across all the documents

13:17:05 <cgueret> ... applied in different contexts

... applied in different contexts

13:17:17 <cgueret> ... made a table to visualise the situation

... made a table to visualise the situation

13:17:36 <cgueret> ... let's talk about it and from there look at all the issues

... let's talk about it and from there look at all the issues

13:18:21 <cgueret> ... for instance for metadata we have all the keywords

... for instance for metadata we have all the keywords

13:18:59 <cgueret> ... shall all the concepts have all the properties associated to them ?

... shall all the concepts have all the properties associated to them ?

13:18:59 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/att-0081/DWBP_Requirements_Matrix.csv

Antoine Isaac: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/att-0081/DWBP_Requirements_Matrix.csv

13:19:16 <cgueret> ... or is there that, e.g. do not need to be machine readable

... or is there that, e.g. do not need to be machine readable

13:19:43 <cgueret> EricKauz: machine readable should be a req for all

Eric Kauz: machine readable should be a req for all

13:19:54 <antoine> I've tried to summarize my points at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0083.html

Antoine Isaac: I've tried to summarize my points at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Aug/0083.html

13:20:31 <cgueret> ... difference between metadata and vocabs ?

... difference between metadata and vocabs ?

13:21:02 <cgueret> deirdrelee: metadata are descriptions, vocabularies are things such as DCAT and OWL

Deirdre Lee: metadata are descriptions, vocabularies are things such as DCAT and OWL

13:21:13 <cgueret> EricKauz: vocabularies are fields of metadata, right ?

Steven Adler: vocabularies are fields of metadata, right ?

13:21:21 <EricKauz> not me  talking.

Eric Kauz: not me talking.

13:21:29 <cgueret> sorry :/

sorry :/

13:21:34 <antoine> s/EricKauz/steve
13:21:40 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:21:40 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

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13:21:44 <markharrison> adler1 is talking, I think

Mark Harrison: adler1 is talking, I think

13:21:50 <deirdrelee> Q?

Deirdre Lee: Q?

13:22:30 <cgueret> adler1: the vocabulary is a single instance used by all the metadata

Steven Adler: the vocabulary is a single instance used by all the metadata

13:22:34 <cgueret> +1 to this def

+1 to this def

13:22:58 <antoine> -1 - refering to vocabularies as 'instance' is confusing

Antoine Isaac: -1 - refering to vocabularies as 'instance' is confusing

13:23:07 <antoine> ... but otherwise the intention is good

Antoine Isaac: ... but otherwise the intention is good

13:23:19 <cgueret> ... in practice metadata, formats and vocabularies are three facets of the same thing

... in practice metadata, formats and vocabularies are three facets of the same thing

13:23:40 <cgueret> ... is "provenance" lineage ?

... is "provenance" lineage ?

13:23:53 <cgueret> ... should be then a field in the metadata ?

... should be then a field in the metadata ?

13:23:54 <markharrison> +q to say that interoperability is a desirable outcome and that machine-readable + standardised are things we can do (as best practices) in order to support this desired outcome.

Mark Harrison: +q to say that interoperability is a desirable outcome and that machine-readable + standardised are things we can do (as best practices) in order to support this desired outcome.

13:23:54 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:25:02 <cgueret> adler1: SLA may be a clause in a license

Steven Adler: SLA may be a clause in a license

13:25:14 <cgueret> ... whereas provenance can be a string

... whereas provenance can be a string

13:25:35 <cgueret> ... need many fields than can be all recorded in metadaat

... need many fields than can be all recorded in metadaat

13:25:48 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

13:26:33 <cgueret> markharrison: looking at the table I think "interoperable" could be dropped as "machine-readable" is a req for this

Mark Harrison: looking at the table I think "interoperable" could be dropped as "machine-readable" is a req for this

13:26:57 <cgueret> adler1: so remove interoperable column ?

Steven Adler: so remove interoperable column ?

13:27:16 <cgueret> markharrison: can not be practicaly implemented unless you do machine readable and standardised

Mark Harrison: can not be practicaly implemented unless you do machine readable and standardised

13:28:01 <deirdrelee> Q+ to ask if differeint standard application-profile still implies interoperability?

Deirdre Lee: Q+ to ask if differeint standard application-profile still implies interoperability?

13:28:06 <deirdrelee> ack markharrison

Deirdre Lee: ack markharrison

13:28:06 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that interoperability is a desirable outcome and that machine-readable + standardised are things we can do (as best practices) in order to support

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say that interoperability is a desirable outcome and that machine-readable + standardised are things we can do (as best practices) in order to support

13:28:09 <Zakim> ... this desired outcome.

Zakim IRC Bot: ... this desired outcome.

13:28:15 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:28:22 <adler1> q-

Steven Adler: q-

13:29:22 <cgueret> antoine: had licence provenance and SLA has type of metadata

Antoine Isaac: had licence provenance and SLA as type of metadata

13:29:27 <cgueret> s/has/as
13:29:47 <cgueret> adler1: vocabulary is the template of the metadata to describe the data

Steven Adler: vocabulary is the template of the metadata to describe the data

13:30:00 <cgueret> ... SLA is a form of a licence term

... SLA is a form of a licence term

13:30:07 <markharrison> +q to say provenance is closer to being an intrinsic property of the data - its sources and transformations, irrespective of how it is licenced.  Both are aspects of metadata (data about the data).  Of course, there may be a provenance aspect of licence, e.g. for GPL licenced components that have impacts on the resulting licence for derived works.

Mark Harrison: +q to say provenance is closer to being an intrinsic property of the data - its sources and transformations, irrespective of how it is licenced. Both are aspects of metadata (data about the data). Of course, there may be a provenance aspect of licence, e.g. for GPL licenced components that have impacts on the resulting licence for derived works.

13:30:30 <laufer> vocabulary is the language to describe the metadata

Carlos Laufer: vocabulary is the language to describe the metadata

13:30:36 <cgueret> deirdrelee: ok to drop available and interoperable

Deirdre Lee: ok to drop available and interoperable

13:30:43 <adler1> well said laufer

Steven Adler: well said laufer

13:31:16 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:31:46 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee

13:31:46 <Zakim> deirdrelee, you wanted to ask if differeint standard application-profile still implies interoperability?

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, you wanted to ask if differeint standard application-profile still implies interoperability?

13:32:09 <cgueret> antoine: if someone creates an application profiles that is not interop it is probably because this was needed

Antoine Isaac: if someone creates an application profiles that is not interop it is probably because this was needed

13:32:27 <cgueret> ... application profiles should then be a minimal level of compatibility

... application profiles should then be a minimal level of compatibility

13:32:52 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:33:35 <cgueret> proposed: drop interoperable

PROPOSED: drop interoperable

13:34:23 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:35:01 <cgueret> ?: license can be changed without changing provenance

Mark Harrison: license can be changed without changing provenance

13:35:18 <antoine> s/?/markharrison
13:35:37 <antoine> ack markharrison

Antoine Isaac: ack markharrison

13:35:37 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say provenance is closer to being an intrinsic property of the data - its sources and transformations, irrespective of how it is licenced.  Both are

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, you wanted to say provenance is closer to being an intrinsic property of the data - its sources and transformations, irrespective of how it is licenced. Both are

13:35:37 <markharrison> +q to respond to Deidre that the interoperability of two application profiles that are both machine-readable and aligned with standardised terms may also depend on intersection of the machine-readable standards used - if no intersection in format or vocabulary, they may not be interoperable

Mark Harrison: +q to respond to Deidre that the interoperability of two application profiles that are both machine-readable and aligned with standardised terms may also depend on intersection of the machine-readable standards used - if no intersection in format or vocabulary, they may not be interoperable

13:35:41 <Zakim> ... aspects of metadata (data about the data).  Of course, there may be a provenance aspect of licence, e.g. for GPL licenced components that have impacts on the resulting licence

Zakim IRC Bot: ... aspects of metadata (data about the data). Of course, there may be a provenance aspect of licence, e.g. for GPL licenced components that have impacts on the resulting licence

13:35:41 <Zakim> ... for derived works.

Zakim IRC Bot: ... for derived works.

13:35:47 <cgueret> adler1: lot of good points but those are vocabulary issues

Steven Adler: lot of good points but those are vocabulary issues

13:35:59 <laufer> +1 in respect to drop interoperable

Carlos Laufer: +1 in respect to drop interoperable

13:36:05 <cgueret> +1 too

+1 too

13:36:18 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:36:30 <adler1> +1 to drop interoperable

Steven Adler: +1 to drop interoperable

13:36:37 <cgueret> antoine: agree with Mark about what he said on provenance

Antoine Isaac: agree with Mark about what he said on provenance

13:36:49 <cgueret> ... license prov and SLA should be kept explicit somewhere

... license prov and SLA should be kept explicit somewhere

13:36:55 <Zakim> +??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20

13:36:58 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:37:12 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P20 is really me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P20 is really me

13:37:12 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

13:37:26 <cgueret> laufer: we have to talk about standardized instead of just interop

Carlos Laufer: we have to talk about standardized instead of just interop

13:37:33 <cgueret> ... interopable is about standardd]\

... interopable is about standardd]\

13:38:08 <cgueret> ... see what is interop with what thing

... see what is interop with what thing

13:38:11 <adler1> q

Steven Adler: q

13:38:16 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:38:16 <cgueret> q?

q?

13:38:19 <deirdrelee> ack laufer

Deirdre Lee: ack laufer

13:38:21 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22

13:38:32 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:38:52 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ??P22 is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, ??P22 is me

13:38:52 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it

13:39:03 <cgueret> markharrison: interoperability is about profiles that are machine readable and aligned with vocabularies

Mark Harrison: interoperability is about profiles that are machine readable and aligned with vocabularies

13:39:15 <cgueret> ... interop depends on vocabularies used

... interop depends on vocabularies used

13:39:30 <cgueret> ... machine readable without same vocabularies used is not interopable

... machine readable without same vocabularies used is not interopable

13:39:59 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED Remove 'interoperability' as a separate requirement

Deirdre Lee: PROPOSED Remove 'interoperability' as a separate requirement

13:40:08 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:40:09 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:40:11 <EricKauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:40:13 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:40:14 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

13:40:16 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:40:17 <cgueret> deirdrelee: we agree to remove interopable as a specific req and instead merge it with machine readable

Deirdre Lee: we agree to remove interopable as a specific req and instead merge it with machine readable

13:40:17 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:40:18 <cgueret> +1

+1

13:40:19 <jerdeb> +1

Jeremy Debattista: +1

13:40:33 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED Remove 'interoperability' as a separate requirement

Deirdre Lee: RESOLVED Remove 'interoperability' as a separate requirement

13:40:55 <cgueret> deirdrelee: second proposal about avbailability

Deirdre Lee: second proposal about avbailability

13:41:06 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:41:13 <cgueret> ... maybe we can include it into another req

... maybe we can include it into another req

13:41:18 <markharrison> q-

Mark Harrison: q-

13:41:21 <deirdrelee> q-

Deirdre Lee: q-

13:41:47 <cgueret> antoine: available should apply to licenses, prov and SLA to record that they should be provided

Antoine Isaac: available should apply to licenses, prov and SLA to record that they should be provided

13:41:56 <cgueret> ... and that would be the only req for these

... and that would be the only req for these

13:42:10 <laufer> what about data schema

Carlos Laufer: what about data schema

13:42:18 <cgueret> deirdrelee: do not agree, for some of them there are more reqs

Deirdre Lee: do not agree, for some of them there are more reqs

13:42:54 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

13:43:39 <cgueret> deirdrelee: prov. sla and license could inherint everything from metadata

Deirdre Lee: prov. sla and license could inherint everything from metadata

13:43:46 <cgueret> ... so we don't repeat it

... so we don't repeat it

13:44:05 <cgueret> adler1: of course metadata should be available but it's not implying all the fields should be there

Steven Adler: of course metadata should be available but it's not implying all the fields should be there

13:44:16 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:44:20 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:44:22 <deirdrelee> ack adler

Deirdre Lee: ack adler

13:44:22 <cgueret> ... someone may have a license but chosen not to create an SLA clause

... someone may have a license but chosen not to create an SLA clause

13:44:49 <cgueret> ... you can't insist everything is available

... you can't insist everything is available

13:45:54 <cgueret> ... strugling a bit with the meaning of "available" actually

... strugling a bit with the meaning of "available" actually

13:46:11 <laufer> it sounds like a may, should and must issues...

Carlos Laufer: it sounds like a may, should and must issues...

13:46:26 <cgueret> deirdrelee: that's something to work on, suggesting remove metadata as available req

Deirdre Lee: that's something to work on, suggesting remove metadata as available req

13:46:35 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED Remove 'metadata-availability' as a separate requirement

Deirdre Lee: PROPOSED Remove 'metadata-availability' as a separate requirement

13:46:48 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:46:49 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:46:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:46:53 <cgueret> +1

+1

13:46:54 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:46:56 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:46:56 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:47:15 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED Remove 'metadata-availability' as a separate requirement

Deirdre Lee: RESOLVED Remove 'metadata-availability' as a separate requirement

13:47:22 <jerdeb> +1

Jeremy Debattista: +1

13:47:51 <cgueret> deirdrelee: SLA, prov and licenses are type of metadata

Deirdre Lee: SLA, prov and licenses are type of metadata

13:48:10 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:48:24 <cgueret> ... we can remove all of those in the table

... we can remove all of those in the table

13:48:48 <cgueret> antoine: they should be available when applicable

Antoine Isaac: they should be available when applicable

13:48:54 <markharrison> +1 to Antoine's e-mail suggesting to fold availability into other requirements e.g. 'should be made available as/in....'

Mark Harrison: +1 to Antoine's e-mail suggesting to fold availability into other requirements e.g. 'should be made available as/in....'

13:48:57 <cgueret> ... if it's there it should be expressed

... if it's there it should be expressed

13:49:01 <cgueret> +1 to Antoine

+1 to Antoine

13:49:31 <cgueret> deirdrelee: best practice should be there should always be a license there

Deirdre Lee: best practice should be there should always be a license there

13:50:48 <cgueret> ... maybe something to do through all the documents, see which keyword to use where

... maybe something to do through all the documents, see which keyword to use where

13:51:22 <cgueret> laufer: most important thing is the schema

Carlos Laufer: most important thing is the schema

13:51:27 <deirdrelee> Q+

Deirdre Lee: Q+

13:51:28 <cgueret> ... this is the first meta-data

... this is the first meta-data

13:51:43 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:51:56 <cgueret> ... why don't we have it as a type of metadata ?

... why don't we have it as a type of metadata ?

13:52:09 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers

13:52:23 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:52:30 <deirdrelee> ack laufer

Deirdre Lee: ack laufer

13:52:34 <cgueret> antoine: that relates to the req for vocabularies

Antoine Isaac: that relates to the req for vocabularies

13:52:48 <cgueret> deirdrelee: the metadata schema is adressed through all the reqs

Deirdre Lee: the metadata schema is adressed through all the reqs

13:53:05 <cgueret> ... there all applied to the metadata schema

... there all applied to the metadata schema

13:53:12 <markharrison> +q to propose that licence info should be stated explicitly where possible, since this helps data consumers and application developers to know whether they can use that data as a source.  It the licence is unspecified, there may be too much risk of using the dataset (if the data consumer cannot work with whatever licence might be specified in future)

Mark Harrison: +q to propose that licence info should be stated explicitly where possible, since this helps data consumers and application developers to know whether they can use that data as a source. It the licence is unspecified, there may be too much risk of using the dataset (if the data consumer cannot work with whatever licence might be specified in future)

13:53:14 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

13:53:27 <cgueret> ... license prov and SLA are mentionned explicitely as they were highlihted in the UCR document

... license prov and SLA are mentionned explicitely as they were highlihted in the UCR document

13:53:39 <cgueret> ... this is why they are specified

... this is why they are specified

13:54:19 <cgueret> laufer: ok but why having vocabularies and not schema ?

Carlos Laufer: ok but why having vocabularies and not schema ?

13:55:25 <cgueret> adler1: we don't have to worry about omitting licenses

Steven Adler: we don't have to worry about omitting licenses

13:55:39 <cgueret> ... it's an obvious req

... it's an obvious req

13:55:59 <laufer> ok, antoine

Carlos Laufer: ok, antoine

13:56:05 <cgueret> ... the interesting discussion is about the SLA

... the interesting discussion is about the SLA

13:57:10 <markharrison> +1 to adler1 re lack of stable SLA and licence potentially limiting reliance on open data

Mark Harrison: +1 to adler1 re lack of stable SLA and licence potentially limiting reliance on open data

13:57:29 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED Remove metadata repeated requirements from License, SLA and provenance, and specify they are types of metadata

Deirdre Lee: PROPOSED Remove metadata repeated requirements from License, SLA and provenance, and specify they are types of metadata

13:57:48 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:57:48 <cgueret> +1

+1

13:57:50 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:57:50 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:57:51 <jerdeb> +1

Jeremy Debattista: +1

13:57:52 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:57:53 <EricKauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:57:54 <Ig_Bittencourt> +!

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +!

13:57:56 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +1

13:57:59 <Zakim> -??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P8

13:58:05 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:58:22 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED Remove metadata repeated requirements from License, SLA and provenance, and specify they are types of metadata

Deirdre Lee: RESOLVED Remove metadata repeated requirements from License, SLA and provenance, and specify they are types of metadata

13:58:42 <cgueret> adler1: thx deirdrelee for a great table that focused a lot of discussion

Steven Adler: thx deirdrelee for a great table that focused a lot of discussion

13:58:59 <cgueret> deirdrelee: close issues via e-mail ?

Deirdre Lee: close issues via e-mail ?

13:59:36 <cgueret> ... is that ok with W3C practices ?

... is that ok with W3C practices ?

13:59:59 <Zakim> -Ivan

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14:00:17 <laufer> bye, nice weekend for all

Carlos Laufer: bye, nice weekend for all

14:00:20 <cgueret> deirdrelee: end of meeting

Deirdre Lee: end of meeting

14:00:23 <Zakim> -EricKauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricKauz

14:00:25 <RiccardoAlbertoni> bye

Riccardo Albertoni: bye

14:00:25 <markharrison> bye!

Mark Harrison: bye!

14:00:29 <cgueret> bye!

bye!

14:00:29 <jerdeb> bye

Jeremy Debattista: bye

14:00:31 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

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14:00:32 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:00:33 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1

14:00:34 <Zakim> -jerdeb

Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb

14:00:36 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

14:00:39 <CarlosIglesias> bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye!

14:01:03 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

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14:01:12 <cgueret> deirdrelee: do we need to launch any command before closing the chat ?

Deirdre Lee: do we need to launch any command before closing the chat ?

14:01:13 <antoine> we have to close issues in calls but we can record proposal and agreement of people involved in issue

Antoine Isaac: we have to close issues in calls but we can record proposal and agreement of people involved in issue

14:01:34 <Zakim> -??P18

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14:01:40 <deirdrelee> cgueret, just checking

Deirdre Lee: cgueret, just checking

14:02:08 <Zakim> -cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret

14:02:37 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

14:02:37 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:02:37 <Zakim> Attendees were antoine, EricKauz, deirdrelee, cgueret, +1.516.353.aaaa, adler1, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, Ivan, jerdeb, CarlosIglesias, MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were antoine, EricKauz, deirdrelee, cgueret, +1.516.353.aaaa, adler1, RiccardoAlbertoni, laufer, Ivan, jerdeb, CarlosIglesias, MakxDekkers

14:03:38 <deirdrelee> no, they seem to be here already http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-08-29

Deirdre Lee: no, they seem to be here already http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-08-29

14:03:54 <deirdrelee> bye

Deirdre Lee: bye

14:04:00 <cgueret> great

great

14:04:02 <cgueret> bye

bye



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