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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 16 May 2014

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Antoine Isaac, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Ivan Herman, Joao Almeida, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Mark Harrison, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Steven Adler, Wagner Meira Jr., Yaso Córdova
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Caroline Burle, Phil Archer
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. last week's minutes approved link
Topics
12:57:36 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/05/16-dwbp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/05/16-dwbp-irc

12:57:47 <PhilA_> rrsagent, make logs public

Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public

12:57:59 <PhilA_> zakim, this will be DWBP

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be DWBP

12:57:59 <Zakim> ok, PhilA_; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA_; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

12:59:34 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

12:59:41 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

12:59:57 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P9 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P9 is me

12:59:57 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

13:01:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:01:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:01:49 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is me

13:01:49 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

13:01:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:01:56 <Zakim> +Caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline

13:02:01 <yaso_> Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

13:02:01 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it

13:02:05 <laufer> zaki, ipcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zaki, ipcaller is me

13:02:14 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:02:14 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:02:15 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:02:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, Yaso, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, Yaso, laufer

13:02:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

13:02:17 <Zakim> + +44.122.333.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.122.333.aaaa

13:02:22 <yaso_> Zakim, yaso has Caroline

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has Caroline

13:02:22 <Zakim> +Caroline; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline; got it

13:02:28 <markharrison> zakim, aaaa is markharrison

Mark Harrison: zakim, aaaa is markharrison

13:02:28 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison; got it

13:02:33 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

13:02:39 <Caroline_> Zakim, Yaso has Caroline also

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Yaso has Caroline also

13:02:39 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso'

13:02:43 <PhilA> zakim, who is noisy?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy?

13:02:51 <laufer> +laufer

Carlos Laufer: +laufer

13:02:55 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 11 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 11 seconds I could not identify any sounds

13:03:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:03:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:03:07 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

13:03:15 <Zakim> +Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso

13:03:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me

13:03:16 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

13:03:22 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise?

Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is making noise?

13:03:24 <PhilA> zakim, mute EricKauz

Phil Archer: zakim, mute EricKauz

13:03:24 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to EricKauz

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA, I do not know which phone connection belongs to EricKauz

13:03:27 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can't hear anyone

Joao Almeida: I can't hear anyone

13:03:28 <yaso_> Zakim, yaso has caroline

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has caroline

13:03:28 <Zakim> +caroline; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +caroline; got it

13:03:29 <Zakim> + +1.609.947.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.947.aabb

13:03:33 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (30%), Yaso (24%)

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (30%), Yaso (24%)

13:03:35 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aacc

13:03:41 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

13:03:43 <yaso_> Zakim mute me

Yaso Córdova: Zakim mute me

13:03:51 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim must have problems

Joao Almeida: Zakim must have problems

13:03:53 <yaso_> Zakim, unmute me

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, unmute me

13:03:53 <Zakim> sorry, yaso_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

13:03:55 <Zakim> +??P18

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18

13:03:56 <MTCarrasco> Zakim, mute me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Zakim, mute me

13:03:57 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should now be muted

13:03:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise/

Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is making noise/

13:03:59 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise/', JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is making noise/', JoaoPauloAlmeida

13:04:04 <yaso_> Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

13:04:04 <Zakim> sorry, yaso_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline'

13:04:06 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute me

Caroline Burle: Zakim, mute me

13:04:06 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

13:04:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise?

Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is making noise?

13:04:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:04:11 <yaso_> Zakim, yaso has Caroline

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has Caroline

13:04:11 <Zakim> caroline was already listed in Yaso, yaso_

Zakim IRC Bot: caroline was already listed in Yaso, yaso_

13:04:13 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:04:13 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

13:04:17 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), markharrison (9%), Yaso (9%), ??P18 (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (14%), markharrison (9%), Yaso (9%), ??P18 (5%)

13:04:30 <Caroline_> Zakim, who's making noise?

Caroline Burle: Zakim, who's making noise?

13:04:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> there must be some  problem with Zakim?

Joao Almeida: there must be some problem with Zakim?

13:04:41 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (19%), PhilA (19%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (19%), PhilA (19%)

13:04:49 <PhilA> zakim, mute laufer

Phil Archer: zakim, mute laufer

13:04:49 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:04:50 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute Laufer

Caroline Burle: Zakim, mute Laufer

13:04:50 <Zakim> laufer was already muted, Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was already muted, Caroline_

13:04:56 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:04:56 <Zakim> laufer was already muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was already muted, laufer

13:05:18 <Caroline_> Zakim, unmute Yaso

Caroline Burle: Zakim, unmute Yaso

13:05:18 <Zakim> Yaso was not muted, Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso was not muted, Caroline_

13:05:20 <markharrison> laufer - you have a noisy line (in case you can't hear us)

Mark Harrison: laufer - you have a noisy line (in case you can't hear us)

13:05:25 <yaso_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140516

Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140516

13:05:35 <PhilA> PhilA has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140516

Phil Archer: PhilA has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140516

13:05:39 <laufer> i can here very well

Carlos Laufer: i can here very well

13:05:42 <laufer> hear

Carlos Laufer: hear

13:06:13 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

13:06:13 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

13:06:15 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

13:06:18 <laufer> no problem... i can hear and read the chat

Carlos Laufer: no problem... i can hear and read the chat

13:06:23 <yaso_> scribe: Caroline

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

13:06:25 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

13:06:25 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

13:06:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> nice

Joao Almeida: nice

13:07:25 <PhilA> scribe: Caroline_
13:07:30 <PhilA> scribeNick: Caroline_
13:07:38 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

13:07:44 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

13:07:57 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:07:58 <Caroline_> PROPOSAL: approving last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

PROPOSED: approving last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-09

13:08:01 <PhilA> PROPOSAL: Accept last week's minutes

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes

13:08:08 <PhilA> +1

Phil Archer: +1

13:08:10 <Caroline_> +1

+1

13:08:11 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:08:11 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

13:08:13 <EricKauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:08:26 <yaso_> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:08:29 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:08:29 <markharrison> +1

Mark Harrison: +1

13:08:39 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:08:43 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:08:43 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:08:52 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: last week's minutes approved

RESOLVED: last week's minutes approved

13:08:58 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:08:58 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:08:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> again noise

Joao Almeida: again noise

13:09:12 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> oh, it was Bernadette :-)

Joao Almeida: oh, it was Bernadette :-)

13:09:19 <BernadetteLoscio> i'm sorry :(

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i'm sorry :(

13:09:34 <Caroline_> PhilA: starting with the use cases

Phil Archer: starting with the use cases

13:09:37 <BernadetteLoscio> 1 min

Bernadette Farias Loscio: 1 min

13:09:46 <Caroline_> ... Bernadette could you give us a update about the use cases?

... Bernadette could you give us a update about the use cases?

13:09:51 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:09:51 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:10:11 <Zakim> + +1.516.944.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.516.944.aadd

13:10:35 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we must link the requirements of the use cases

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we must link the requirements of the use cases

13:10:37 <adler1> sorry for being late

Steven Adler: sorry for being late

13:10:39 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:10:49 <Caroline_> ... there is a proposal to address it until the end of the month

... there is a proposal to address it until the end of the month

13:10:57 <PhilA> Deirdre's last commit is at https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/pull/4

Phil Archer: Deirdre's last commit is at https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/pull/4

13:11:06 <HadleyBeeman> rrsagent, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: rrsagent, pointer?

13:11:06 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2014/05/16-dwbp-irc#T13-11-06

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2014/05/16-dwbp-irc#T13-11-06

13:11:11 <Caroline_> PhilA: I have tried to fix it but I couldn't

Phil Archer: I have tried to fix it but I couldn't

13:11:20 <Caroline_> ... if Yaso can fix it it would be great

... if Yaso can fix it it would be great

13:11:24 <Caroline_> yaso_: I will try

Yaso Córdova: I will try

13:12:01 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: regarding the use cases there, I will check if the all use cases there are all rigth

Bernadette Farias Loscio: regarding the use cases there, I will check if the all use cases there are all rigth

13:12:24 <Caroline_> ... if everyone could take a look it would be great!

... if everyone could take a look it would be great!

13:12:36 <PhilA> chair: Hadley
13:12:39 <Caroline_> PhilA: It would be useful if Yaso fix it first

Phil Archer: It would be useful if Yaso fix it first

13:12:57 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:12:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, +1.609.947.aabb, +1.509.554.aacc, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, +1.609.947.aabb, +1.509.554.aacc, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted),

13:13:00 <Zakim> ... BernadetteLoscio, +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: ... BernadetteLoscio, +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman

13:13:00 <Zakim> Yaso has caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has caroline

13:13:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

13:13:00 <Zakim> ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

13:13:23 <Caroline_> yaso_: do I have all the priviledge to work on the repository?

Yaso Córdova: do I have all the priviledge to work on the repository?

13:13:28 <Caroline_> PhilA: yes, I think so!

Phil Archer: yes, I think so!

13:13:42 <ericstephan> zakim, aacc is me

Eric Stephan: zakim, aacc is me

13:13:42 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it

13:13:44 <EricKauz> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me

13:13:44 <Zakim> +EricKauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +EricKauz; got it

13:13:44 <HadleyBeeman> chair: hadley
13:13:48 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:13:48 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:13:51 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:13:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, EricKauz, ericstephan, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted), BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, EricKauz, ericstephan, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted), BernadetteLoscio

13:13:54 <Zakim> ... (muted), +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman

13:13:54 <Zakim> Yaso has caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has caroline

13:13:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

13:13:54 <Zakim> ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

13:14:33 <adler1> zakim, aadd is me

Steven Adler: zakim, aadd is me

13:14:33 <Zakim> +adler1; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it

13:14:44 <MakxDekkers> Been trying for a while now to connect on the conference bridge but get busy tone all the time. I'll follow on IRC

Makx Dekkers: Been trying for a while now to connect on the conference bridge but get busy tone all the time. I'll follow on IRC

13:14:50 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:14:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, EricKauz, ericstephan, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted), BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see MTCarrasco (muted), antoine, laufer (muted), markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida (muted), Yaso, EricKauz, ericstephan, ??P18, PhilA, Ivan (muted), BernadetteLoscio

13:14:54 <Zakim> ... (muted), adler1, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), adler1, HadleyBeeman

13:14:54 <Zakim> Yaso has caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has caroline

13:14:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, adler1, MakxDekkers, wagnermeirajr, ericstephan, EricKauz, yaso_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, markharrison, Caroline_, BernadetteLoscio,

13:14:54 <Zakim> ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, PhilA, laufer, ivan, trackbot

13:15:10 <MTCarrasco> Yes

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Yes

13:15:47 <MTCarrasco> I dialled direct as ??P9 and it is already associated

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I dialled direct as ??P9 and it is already associated

13:15:54 <PhilA> zakim, ??P18 is wagnermeirajr

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P18 is wagnermeirajr

13:15:54 <Zakim> +wagnermeirajr; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +wagnermeirajr; got it

13:16:33 <BernadetteLoscio> :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: :)

13:16:37 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I can't hear anyone

Joao Almeida: I can't hear anyone

13:16:43 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

13:16:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ok

Joao Almeida: ok

13:16:57 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

13:17:00 <yaso_> Phil, I’ll have to checkout via command line. I’ll have to set a new repo in my machine, so it will take more than 5 minutes, ok?

Yaso Córdova: Phil, I’ll have to checkout via command line. I’ll have to set a new repo in my machine, so it will take more than 5 minutes, ok?

13:17:10 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:17:11 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:17:13 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P24 is really me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P24 is really me

13:17:13 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

13:17:43 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: should we get back to the use cases?

Hadley Beeman: should we get back to the use cases?

13:17:53 <nathalia> yaso has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: yaso has nathalia

13:18:04 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: we agreed on ??

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we agreed on ??

13:18:06 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has nathalia

13:18:07 <Zakim> +nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia; got it

13:18:29 <PhilA> I will be very happy if the UCR doc goes to FPWD by the end of May, thank you BernadetteLoscio and Deirdre

Phil Archer: I will be very happy if the UCR doc goes to FPWD by the end of May, thank you BernadetteLoscio and Deirdre

13:18:31 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I think almost all the use cases are on the wiki

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think almost all the use cases are on the wiki

13:18:34 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

13:19:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:19:10 <Caroline_> ... I am going to check if they are all there

... I am going to check if they are all there

13:19:13 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has Vagner_Br

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has Vagner_Br

13:19:13 <Zakim> +Vagner_Br; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Vagner_Br; got it

13:19:16 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:19:16 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:19:44 <Caroline_> ... It is important that everybody takes a look on the requirements if they are okay or if we should change something

... It is important that everybody takes a look on the requirements if they are okay or if we should change something

13:19:49 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute laufer

Zakim, mute laufer

13:19:49 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:20:12 <laufer> sorry about the noise...

Carlos Laufer: sorry about the noise...

13:20:16 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: can you find the link of the requirements and put on the IRC?

Hadley Beeman: can you find the link of the requirements and put on the IRC?

13:20:29 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: there is a specific section about the requirements

Bernadette Farias Loscio: there is a specific section about the requirements

13:20:41 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

13:20:56 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markharrison (24%), Yaso (4%), HadleyBeeman (52%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markharrison (24%), Yaso (4%), HadleyBeeman (52%)

13:21:10 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio , could you send an email to the group about it?

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio , could you send an email to the group about it?

13:21:29 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: yes! When the problem of github is fixed everybody will be able to see it

Hadley Beeman: yes! When the problem of github is fixed everybody will be able to see it

13:21:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:21:56 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: should we come back next week of today's discussion?

Hadley Beeman: should we come back next week of today's discussion?

13:21:58 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:21:58 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:22:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:22:00 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

13:22:04 <Caroline_> BernadetteLoscio: I think so

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think so

13:22:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> thanks

Joao Almeida: thanks

13:22:22 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: let's move on to the data quality vocabulary

Hadley Beeman: let's move on to the data quality vocabulary

13:22:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Thanks PhilA

Joao Almeida: Thanks PhilA

13:22:37 <MTCarrasco> zakim, unmute me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me

13:22:37 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should no longer be muted

13:22:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> got no love from skype

Joao Almeida: got no love from skype

13:22:46 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

13:22:49 <HadleyBeeman> action-26?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-26?

13:22:49 <trackbot> action-26 -- Antoine Isaac to Review paul groth's paper and report to the wg -- due 2014-04-18 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-26 -- Antoine Isaac to Review paul groth's paper and report to the wg -- due 2014-04-18 -- OPEN

13:22:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/26

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/26

13:22:56 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 15 (50%), antoine (36%), markharrison (44%), HadleyBeeman (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 15 (50%), antoine (36%), markharrison (44%), HadleyBeeman (4%)

13:22:57 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014May/0027.html

Antoine Isaac: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014May/0027.html

13:23:29 <Caroline_> antoine: I will keep track

Antoine Isaac: I will keep track

13:23:33 <PhilA> I'll look into that antoine

Phil Archer: I'll look into that antoine

13:23:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me

13:23:41 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted

13:23:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute markharrison

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute markharrison

13:23:47 <Zakim> markharrison should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison should now be muted

13:24:29 <Caroline_> antoine: I believe that we could close the action

Antoine Isaac: I believe that we could close the action

13:24:37 <PhilA> close action-26

Phil Archer: close ACTION-26

13:24:37 <trackbot> Closed action-26.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-26.

13:24:37 <HadleyBeeman> close action-26

Hadley Beeman: close ACTION-26

13:24:37 <trackbot> Closed action-26.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-26.

13:24:43 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: what is the next step

Hadley Beeman: what is the next step

13:24:46 <PhilA> action-36?

Phil Archer: ACTION-36?

13:24:46 <trackbot> action-36 -- Newton Calegari to Start the process of creating a uri design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-36 -- Newton Calegari to Start the process of creating a uri design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:24:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/36

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/36

13:24:51 <PhilA> action-34?

Phil Archer: ACTION-34?

13:24:51 <trackbot> action-34 -- Bart van Leeuwen to Coordinate with antoine about the data quality effort -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-34 -- Bart van Leeuwen to Coordinate with antoine about the data quality effort -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:24:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/34

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/34

13:25:14 <yaso_> sair salvando?

Yaso Córdova: sair salvando?

13:25:18 <yaso_> Sorry

Yaso Córdova: Sorry

13:25:39 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

13:25:45 <PhilA> scribe: Caroline_

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

13:26:10 <Caroline_> antoine: I was on holliday last week

Antoine Isaac: I was on holliday last week

13:26:23 <Caroline_> ... we could call an action in the WG

... we could call an action in the WG

13:26:44 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: can you frame that more specifically?

Hadley Beeman: can you frame that more specifically?

13:27:07 <Caroline_> antoine: let's not do it now. I will discuss it with the group later

Antoine Isaac: let's not do it now. I will discuss it with the group later

13:27:49 <antoine> In last week's minutes "Should have a separated call for Data quality discussion, a mailing list exists"

Antoine Isaac: In last week's minutes "Should have a separated call for Data quality discussion, a mailing list exists"

13:28:07 <PhilA> The Vocabs list is at public-dwbp-vocabs@w3.org

Phil Archer: The Vocabs list is at public-dwbp-vocabs@w3.org

13:28:15 <PhilA> Archived at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-vocabs/

Phil Archer: Archived at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-vocabs/

13:28:46 <Caroline_> ... we should keep the discussion separately

... we should keep the discussion separately

13:28:49 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:28:59 <Caroline_> ... do you thkn that we should have the same open discussion for data quality?

... do you thkn that we should have the same open discussion for data quality?

13:29:10 <adler1> +1 Hadley

Steven Adler: +1 Hadley

13:29:16 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has newton

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has newton

13:29:16 <Zakim> +newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it

13:29:23 <Caroline_> ... we could discuss it in the mailing list

... we could discuss it in the mailing list

13:29:29 <Caroline_> +1 to antoine

+1 to antoine

13:30:04 <PhilA> I'm happy to set up additional call slots if we need them (and I think we do)

Phil Archer: I'm happy to set up additional call slots if we need them (and I think we do)

13:30:04 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: let's move on to the data usage vocabulary

Hadley Beeman: let's move on to the data usage vocabulary

13:30:04 <yaso_> Yay! “Everything up-to-date” on GitHub :-)

Yaso Córdova: Yay! “Everything up-to-date” on GitHub :-)

13:30:04 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

13:30:17 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: 15 (8%), EricKauz (5%), ericstephan (85%), HadleyBeeman (8%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: 15 (8%), EricKauz (5%), ericstephan (85%), HadleyBeeman (8%)

13:30:20 <BernadetteLoscio> its ok :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: its ok :)

13:30:52 <ericstephan> https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/

Eric Stephan: https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/

13:31:36 <Caroline_> ericstephan: we should use the https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/

Eric Stephan: we should use the https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/

13:32:07 <Caroline_> PhilA: can you put your github username in IRC that I will give you permission

Phil Archer: can you put your github username in IRC that I will give you permission

13:32:14 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is making noise?

Zakim, who is making noise?

13:32:26 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: EricKauz (8%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: EricKauz (8%)

13:32:27 <yaso_> hahaha PhilA I don’t know either. I just follow the instructions :-)

Yaso Córdova: hahaha PhilA I don’t know either. I just follow the instructions :-)

13:32:28 <BernadetteLoscio> its ok for me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: its ok for me

13:32:28 <ericstephan> github account ericstephan

Eric Stephan: github account ericstephan

13:32:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> my github account is jpalmeida

Joao Almeida: my github account is jpalmeida

13:32:41 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute EricKauz

Zakim, mute EricKauz

13:32:41 <Zakim> EricKauz should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: EricKauz should now be muted

13:33:00 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: ericstephan and BernadetteLoscio could you have this ready for next week?

Hadley Beeman: ericstephan and BernadetteLoscio could you have this ready for next week?

13:33:03 <BernadetteLoscio> yes...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes...

13:33:04 <antoine> my github account is aisaac

Antoine Isaac: my github account is aisaac

13:33:18 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I think so, I will catch up with BernadetteLoscio about all the work she has been doing

Eric Stephan: I think so, I will catch up with BernadetteLoscio about all the work she has been doing

13:33:19 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

13:33:35 <MakxDekkers> I haven't been able to figure out how github works yet. I am a very novice user and haven't found 'github for dummies' yet

Makx Dekkers: I haven't been able to figure out how github works yet. I am a very novice user and haven't found 'github for dummies' yet

13:33:53 <Caroline_> newton: I sent an email about the document and I thkn this action could be closed

Newton Calegari: I sent an email about the document and I thkn this action could be closed

13:34:05 <Caroline_> ... we can keep the discussion on the mailing list

... we can keep the discussion on the mailing list

13:34:12 <Caroline_> ACTION 6: closed

ACTION-6: closed

13:34:12 <trackbot> Error finding '6'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding '6'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

13:34:17 <newton> 36

Newton Calegari: 36

13:34:24 <Caroline_> ACTION 36: closed

ACTION-36: closed

13:34:24 <trackbot> Error finding '36'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding '36'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

13:34:27 <HadleyBeeman> action-36?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-36?

13:34:27 <trackbot> action-36 -- Newton Calegari to Start the process of creating a uri design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-36 -- Newton Calegari to Start the process of creating a uri design document (email thread or wiki pages) with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:34:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/36

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/36

13:34:29 <HadleyBeeman> close action-36

Hadley Beeman: close ACTION-36

13:34:29 <trackbot> Closed action-36.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-36.

13:34:55 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:34:59 <HadleyBeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

13:35:10 <ericstephan> PhilA, did you see my github account?  "ericstephan"?  sorry I was kind of vague on my last post

Eric Stephan: PhilA, did you see my github account? "ericstephan"? sorry I was kind of vague on my last post

13:35:18 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: there are 3 documents adressed URI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: there are 3 documents adressed URI

13:35:38 <markharrison> zakim, unmute markharrison

Mark Harrison: zakim, unmute markharrison

13:35:38 <Zakim> markharrison should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison should no longer be muted

13:35:57 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: there are 3 documents regarding URIs now

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: there are 3 documents regarding URIs now

13:36:14 <Caroline_> ... these 3 documents should be merged

... these 3 documents should be merged

13:36:51 <Caroline_> ... (I was not on last week's call because it was a holliday)

... (I was not on last week's call because it was a holliday)

13:36:51 <yaso_> ok

Yaso Córdova: ok

13:37:12 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: I put your name because I new you were interested from the beginig

Hadley Beeman: I put your name because I new you were interested from the beginig

13:37:23 <MakxDekkers> I still get a busy tone on the conference bridge.

Makx Dekkers: I still get a busy tone on the conference bridge.

13:37:32 <Caroline_> ... Newton, Laufer and I can have calls between us and agree on the document

... Newton, Laufer and I can have calls between us and agree on the document

13:37:49 <MTCarrasco> There are three documents on URI should be merged - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: There are three documents on URI should be merged - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices

13:37:49 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: Newton, what do you think?

Hadley Beeman: Newton, what do you think?

13:38:04 <Caroline_> newton: I proposed to merge a new document

Newton Calegari: I proposed to merge a new document

13:38:07 <MTCarrasco> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/URI_Design_and_Management_for_Persistence

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/URI_Design_and_Management_for_Persistence

13:38:17 <MTCarrasco> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/URIs_versus_APIs

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/URIs_versus_APIs

13:38:23 <adler1> hadley do we want to mention the draft CSV working group has published as an example of what our first draft can look like?

Steven Adler: hadley do we want to mention the draft CSV working group has published as an example of what our first draft can look like?

13:38:23 <Caroline_> ... the document that MTCarrasco did should be merged to this other document to become one

... the document that MTCarrasco did should be merged to this other document to become one

13:38:37 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: when this documents come together will they be okay

Hadley Beeman: when this documents come together will they be okay

13:38:38 <Caroline_> ?

?

13:39:08 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: URI versus APP should be merged as well

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI versus API should be merged as well

13:39:22 <Caroline_> ... certain things could be asked in the URIs

... certain things could be asked in the URIs

13:39:27 <PhilA> s/APP/API/
13:39:31 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: I am getting a bit confused

Hadley Beeman: I am getting a bit confused

13:40:07 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: about the URIs is important to not break anything

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: about the URIs is important to not break anything

13:40:15 <Caroline_> .... nothing is broken

.... nothing is broken

13:40:24 <Caroline_> ... I would say is the most common usage of it

... I would say is the most common usage of it

13:40:36 <laufer> let´s see if my line is still noisy...

Carlos Laufer: let´s see if my line is still noisy...

13:40:37 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: could you merge the 3 documents and get this back to the group?

Hadley Beeman: could you merge the 3 documents and get this back to the group?

13:40:44 <PhilA> zakim, unmute laufer

Phil Archer: zakim, unmute laufer

13:40:44 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

13:40:44 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: Laufer is also on the line

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Laufer is also on the line

13:40:46 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:40:46 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer

13:41:04 <Caroline_> laufer: I think we have 2 things here

Carlos Laufer: I think we have 2 things here

13:41:15 <Caroline_> .... a way to define URIs, that we we BP to do this

.... a way to define URIs, that we we BP to do this

13:41:32 <Caroline_> .... another thing is do we have API or not to access the information

.... another thing is do we have API or not to access the information

13:41:33 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to laufer

Joao Almeida: +1 to laufer

13:41:56 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> the first point is about identification of resources

Joao Almeida: the first point is about identification of resources

13:42:06 <Caroline_> ... If one decides to use the URIs we could talk about the BP to this

... If one decides to use the URIs we could talk about the BP to this

13:42:09 <MTCarrasco> It is question of order of preference - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices#Order_of_preference

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: It is question of order of preference - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices#Order_of_preference

13:42:23 <Caroline_> ... if another wants to use API we could discuss it as well

... if another wants to use API we could discuss it as well

13:42:34 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: I agree, it is a continuation

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I agree, it is a continuation

13:43:07 <Caroline_> ... if there is no URI information in the server configuration

... if there is no URI information in the server configuration

13:43:26 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: please do carry on and as much as you can on the mailing list

Hadley Beeman: please do carry on and as much as you can on the mailing list

13:43:34 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: we have a lot to cover today

Hadley Beeman: we have a lot to cover today

13:43:41 <Caroline_> ... lets move on to core vocabulary

... lets move on to core vocabulary

13:43:49 <MTCarrasco> Order of preference :     URI  -   Header fields  -   Server configuration

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Order of preference : URI - Header fields - Server configuration

13:44:14 <HadleyBeeman> action-38?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-38?

13:44:14 <trackbot> action-38 -- Carlos Laufer to Start the process of creating a document on the best practices on the provision of metadata -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-38 -- Carlos Laufer to Start the process of creating a document on the best practices on the provision of metadata -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:44:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/38

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/38

13:44:28 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is sepaking?

Zakim, who is sepaking?

13:44:28 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Caroline_.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Caroline_.

13:44:36 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

13:44:38 <Caroline_> tks

tks

13:44:47 <Caroline_> laufer: I think this action is completed

Carlos Laufer: I think this action is completed

13:44:50 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (93%), HadleyBeeman (3%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: laufer (93%), HadleyBeeman (3%)

13:44:52 <Caroline_> ... we have a lot of answers

... we have a lot of answers

13:45:00 <PhilA> close action-38

Phil Archer: close ACTION-38

13:45:00 <trackbot> Closed action-38.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-38.

13:45:10 <Caroline_> ... we need to sumarize these ideas on the wiki page

... we need to sumarize these ideas on the wiki page

13:45:26 <Caroline_> ... we have some time to discuss what is there

... we have some time to discuss what is there

13:45:43 <Caroline_> ... the main issue is that we are talking about metadata and we have some actions to use this metadata

... the main issue is that we are talking about metadata and we have some actions to use this metadata

13:45:53 <Caroline_> ... I am proposing to categorize the metadata

... I am proposing to categorize the metadata

13:45:58 <HadleyBeeman> action: laufer to summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for Guidance on metadata

ACTION: laufer to summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for Guidance on metadata

13:45:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for guidance on metadata [on Carlos Laufer - due 2014-05-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-39 - Summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for guidance on metadata [on Carlos Laufer - due 2014-05-23].

13:46:01 <Caroline_> ... we have the action that is to use data

... we have the action that is to use data

13:46:18 <Caroline_> ... we can have a kind of taxonomy to this metada

... we can have a kind of taxonomy to this metada

13:46:25 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:46:31 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: I am giving you an action for next week

Hadley Beeman: I am giving you an action for next week

13:46:34 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila

Hadley Beeman: ack phila

13:46:48 <Caroline_> PhilA: Laufer, do you thkn you have enough information in that tread?

Phil Archer: Laufer, do you think you have enough information in that tread?

13:46:59 <Caroline_> ... because a lot of people are interested on that

... because a lot of people are interested on that

13:47:07 <adler1> q

Steven Adler: q

13:47:10 <adler1> q+

Steven Adler: q+

13:47:14 <Caroline_> ... I have to answer the questions and to continue the discussion

... I have to answer the questions and to continue the discussion

13:47:21 <Caroline_> ... we need some time to do it

... we need some time to do it

13:47:26 <HadleyBeeman> ack adler

Hadley Beeman: ack adler

13:47:45 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

13:47:53 <Caroline_> Steve: how confident we feel that we will get a first draft to the Use Cases until the end of the month?

Steven Adler: how confident we feel that we will get a first draft to the Use Cases until the end of the month?

13:47:57 <nathalia> s/thkn/think
13:48:00 <ericstephan> PhilA - success on github, thank you!

Eric Stephan: PhilA - success on github, thank you!

13:48:05 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio said she is very commited to is

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio said she is very commited to is

13:48:10 <Caroline_> ... to it

... to it

13:48:36 <Caroline_> newton: we haven't worked about the document on publishing datasets

Newton Calegari: we haven't worked about the document on publishing datasets

13:48:45 <Caroline_> ... we will start an action to work on that next week

... we will start an action to work on that next week

13:48:50 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

13:49:23 <HadleyBeeman> action: flavio to start the versioning document/research with newton

ACTION: flavio to start the versioning document/research with newton

13:49:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Start the versioning document/research with newton [on Flavio Yanai - due 2014-05-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-40 - Start the versioning document/research with newton [on Flavio Yanai - due 2014-05-23].

13:49:32 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: about the wiki, I would put a link there

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: about the wiki, I would put a link there

13:49:38 <Caroline_> ... the data is a particular case

... the data is a particular case

13:49:39 <markharrison> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Making_controlled_vocabularies_accessible_as_URI_sets contains some initial thoughts about scope and a few references - it's currently very rough and incomplete.  I will try to improve it and add some more content soon

Mark Harrison: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Making_controlled_vocabularies_accessible_as_URI_sets contains some initial thoughts about scope and a few references - it's currently very rough and incomplete. I will try to improve it and add some more content soon

13:49:47 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: control vocabs and access to URIs

Hadley Beeman: control vocabs and access to URIs

13:50:07 <Caroline_> markharrison: I put together information on the wiki

Mark Harrison: I put together information on the wiki

13:50:10 <laufer> Phil, coul you please give me access to github (user carloslaufer)?

Carlos Laufer: Phil, coul you please give me access to github (user carloslaufer)?

13:50:16 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

13:50:18 <laufer> could*

Carlos Laufer: could*

13:50:27 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MTCarrasco (5%), markharrison (13%), HadleyBeeman (13%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MTCarrasco (5%), markharrison (13%), HadleyBeeman (13%)

13:50:41 <Caroline_> markharrison: we will continue the discussion

Mark Harrison: we will continue the discussion

13:50:47 <Caroline_> ... anyone feel free to comment

... anyone feel free to comment

13:50:55 <HadleyBeeman> action: markharrison to add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies

ACTION: markharrison to add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies

13:50:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-05-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-41 - Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-05-23].

13:51:15 <MTCarrasco> Versions of datasets  is a particular case - the general case is how to handle all previous versions like Wikipedia -  memento http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7089

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Versions of datasets is a particular case - the general case is how to handle all previous versions like Wikipedia - memento http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7089

13:51:42 <Caroline_> nathalia: about techinical factors for consideration

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: about techinical factors for consideration

13:52:02 <Caroline_> ... we can start to work on that this week because Flavio is traveling

... we can start to work on that this week because Flavio is traveling

13:53:13 <Caroline_> Yaso: I have just started to write a document

Yaso Córdova: I have just started to write a document

13:53:28 <Caroline_> ... I was think about listing some challenges

... I was think about listing some challenges

13:53:34 <Caroline_> ... how to integrate data in the web

... how to integrate data in the web

13:53:47 <Caroline_> ... concerning about performance and exchanging data in many systems

... concerning about performance and exchanging data in many systems

13:53:54 <Caroline_> ... I think the action is open

... I think the action is open

13:53:57 <laufer> Thank you, Phil

Carlos Laufer: Thank you, Phil

13:54:01 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: souds a good progress

Hadley Beeman: souds a good progress

13:54:30 <Caroline_> yaso_: I am going to list these issues, write an email and list technical factos that afects these things

Yaso Córdova: I am going to list these issues, write an email and list technical factos that afects these things

13:54:37 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: data presevation

Hadley Beeman: data presevation

13:54:51 <Caroline_> PhilA: Christopher said we will start to work on this very soon!

Phil Archer: Christophe said we will start to work on this very soon!

13:54:53 <MTCarrasco> Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans)   - http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ltans/charter/

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ltans/charter/

13:54:55 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

13:54:57 <Caroline_> ... is it in our consicious

... is it in our consicious

13:55:13 <PhilA> s/Christopher/Christophe/
13:55:21 <Caroline_> Steve: I will put on the calendar in June

Steven Adler: I will put on the calendar in June

13:55:32 <Caroline_> ... I had a good conversation with the Georgia Minister

... I had a good conversation with the Georgia Minister

13:55:42 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers

13:55:44 <Caroline_> ... he wants some advice from us

... he wants some advice from us

13:55:49 <Caroline_> ... I will schedule a call in June

... I will schedule a call in June

13:56:16 <Caroline_> ... I also started a num of discussion about legal issues. What we call model contracts for licenses

... I also started a num of discussion about legal issues. What we call model contracts for licenses

13:56:26 <Caroline_> ... there is no international agreement on using them

... there is no international agreement on using them

13:56:36 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

13:56:46 <MakxDekkers> I was also interested in the issue of guarantees and liability

Makx Dekkers: I was also interested in the issue of guarantees and liability

13:56:51 <PhilA> Note - Steve is talking about the government in Tiblisi, i.e. the Caucasion nation of Georgia, not the US state

Phil Archer: Note - Steve is talking about the government in Tiblisi, i.e. the Caucasion nation of Georgia, not the US state

13:56:55 <Caroline_> ... I hope that we will have time to consider the license recommnedations

... I hope that we will have time to consider the license recommnedations

13:56:59 <HadleyBeeman> ack mtc

Hadley Beeman: ack mtc

13:57:18 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: about data preservation, I put a couple of links, because there was a lot of work

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: about data preservation, I put a couple of links, because there was a lot of work

13:57:33 <Caroline_> ... might be worth to take a look on machine readable

... might be worth to take a look on machine readable

13:58:17 <Caroline_> steve: there are some cases of pepople who are not using the PSI policy

Steven Adler: there are some cases of pepople who are not using the PSI policy

13:58:29 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: I have to check because we have a law for it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I have to check because we have a law for it

13:58:45 <Caroline_> ... any information send to me I will check it

... any information send to me I will check it

13:58:48 <MakxDekkers> The PSI Directive is compulsory in Europe

Makx Dekkers: The PSI Directive is compulsory in Europe

13:59:16 <MakxDekkers> Transposed is the word

Makx Dekkers: Transposed is the word

13:59:24 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: the Europena Union makes laws that must be translated to each country

Hadley Beeman: the Europena Union makes laws that must be translated to each country

13:59:28 <markharrison> You're referring to this PSI Directive - linked from here:  http://www.lapsi-project.eu/what

Mark Harrison: You're referring to this PSI Directive - linked from here: http://www.lapsi-project.eu/what

13:59:38 <Caroline_> .... each european country has each own law

.... each european country has each own law

13:59:57 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: there should be adaptation, but can not contradict it

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: there should be adaptation, but can not contradict it

14:00:03 <MakxDekkers> Directive

Makx Dekkers: Directive

14:00:07 <PhilA> It's a Directive, MTCarrasco

Phil Archer: It's a Directive, MTCarrasco

14:00:38 <MakxDekkers> PSI Directive http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2013:175:0001:0008:EN:PDF

Makx Dekkers: PSI Directive http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2013:175:0001:0008:EN:PDF

14:00:50 <Caroline_> Steve: I thikn a lot of policies were developed before

Steven Adler: I thikn a lot of policies were developed before

14:00:56 <Caroline_> ... it is causing some frustation

... it is causing some frustation

14:01:10 <Caroline_> ... is might limit the potential of open data

... is might limit the potential of open data

14:01:18 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

14:01:26 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: the law has to be followed

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the law has to be followed

14:01:39 <MakxDekkers> +q

Makx Dekkers: +q

14:01:42 <Caroline_> ... it is necessary to accept to make some of them mandatory

... it is necessary to accept to make some of them mandatory

14:01:55 <Caroline_> ... a lot of this legislation apply to public data

... a lot of this legislation apply to public data

14:02:00 <MakxDekkers> -q

Makx Dekkers: -q

14:02:02 <CarlosIglesias> Note that the link from Makx is the updated version of the directive that was approved last year and still not being implemented in any member country AFAIK

Carlos Iglesias: Note that the link from Makx is the updated version of the directive that was approved last year and still not being implemented in any member country AFAIK

14:02:11 <Zakim> -EricKauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricKauz

14:02:15 <MakxDekkers> Correct Carlos

Makx Dekkers: Correct Carlos

14:02:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> bye to all

Joao Almeida: bye to all

14:02:17 <Caroline_> HadleyBeeman: we must finish the meeting but it is important to continue this conversation

Hadley Beeman: we must finish the meeting but it is important to continue this conversation

14:02:18 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks! bye!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! bye!

14:02:20 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1

14:02:22 <laufer> bye

Carlos Laufer: bye

14:02:22 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

14:02:22 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:02:22 <adler1> great call

Steven Adler: great call

14:02:22 <Caroline_> bye!

bye!

14:02:23 <CarlosIglesias> bye!

Carlos Iglesias: bye!

14:02:24 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:02:25 <Zakim> -markharrison

Zakim IRC Bot: -markharrison

14:02:26 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

14:02:27 <markharrison> bye!

Mark Harrison: bye!

14:02:27 <newton> bye

Newton Calegari: bye

14:02:28 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:02:29 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

14:02:30 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias

14:02:31 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:02:34 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:02:53 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:03:17 <Zakim> -wagnermeirajr

Zakim IRC Bot: -wagnermeirajr

14:03:56 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers

14:03:58 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:03:58 <Zakim> Attendees were MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, laufer, +44.122.333.aaaa, Caroline, markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.947.aabb, +1.509.554.aacc, Ivan, BernadetteLoscio,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, laufer, +44.122.333.aaaa, Caroline, markharrison, JoaoPauloAlmeida, +1.609.947.aabb, +1.509.554.aacc, Ivan, BernadetteLoscio,

14:03:58 <Zakim> ... +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, EricKauz, adler1, wagnermeirajr, CarlosIglesias, nathalia, Vagner_Br, newton, Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.516.944.aadd, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, EricKauz, adler1, wagnermeirajr, CarlosIglesias, nathalia, Vagner_Br, newton, Makx_Dekkers



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