None.
12:58:03 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-dwbp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/02/21-dwbp-irc ←
12:58:09 <PhilA> zakim, this will be dwbp
Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp ←
12:58:09 <Zakim> ok, PhilA, I see DATA_DWBP()8:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA, I see DATA_DWBP()8:00AM already started ←
12:58:28 <Zakim> sorry, MTCarrasco, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MTCarrasco, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2' ←
12:58:34 <Zakim> -??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P1 ←
12:58:36 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P2 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P2 is me ←
12:58:36 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it ←
12:58:39 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
12:58:42 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
12:58:42 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
12:58:44 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
12:58:52 <Zakim> + +1.516.353.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.516.353.aabb ←
12:58:56 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
12:58:56 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
12:59:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
12:59:07 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
12:59:07 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it ←
12:59:10 <Zakim> +??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←
12:59:20 <cgueret> zakim, +??P1 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, +??P1 is me ←
12:59:20 <Zakim> sorry, cgueret, I do not recognize a party named '+??P1'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cgueret, I do not recognize a party named '+??P1' ←
12:59:25 <cgueret> zakim, ??P1 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P1 is me ←
12:59:25 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
12:59:26 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
12:59:27 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco should now be muted ←
13:01:18 <Caroline_> Hello!
Caroline Burle: Hello! ←
13:01:28 <HadleyBeeman> topic?
Hadley Beeman: topic? ←
13:01:35 <adler1> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140221
Steven Adler: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140221 ←
13:01:47 <PhilA> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140221
13:02:03 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is talking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:02:14 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: cgueret (45%), HadleyBeeman (29%), PhilA (15%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: cgueret (45%), HadleyBeeman (29%), PhilA (15%) ←
13:02:23 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
13:02:23 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
13:02:31 <cgueret> sorry
Christophe Gueret: sorry ←
13:02:38 <HadleyBeeman> no worries :)
Hadley Beeman: no worries :) ←
13:03:24 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
13:03:27 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
13:03:42 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, ??P8 is me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, ??P8 is me ←
13:03:42 <Zakim> +Ig_Bittencourt; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ig_Bittencourt; got it ←
13:03:42 <yaso> Hi all. Me and Caroline are dialing
Yaso Córdova: Hi all. Me and Caroline are dialing ←
13:03:45 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
13:03:46 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:03:55 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline has Yaso
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline has Yaso ←
13:03:55 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it ←
13:03:58 <Zakim> -cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret ←
13:04:04 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, mute me ←
13:04:04 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted ←
13:04:17 <PhilA> scribe: Caroline_
(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)
13:04:24 <PhilA> scribeNick: Caroline_
13:04:30 <Zakim> +??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←
13:04:36 <martinA> zakim, ??P1 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P1 is me ←
13:04:36 <Zakim> +martinA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martinA; got it ←
13:04:53 <martinA> zakim, mute me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me ←
13:04:53 <Zakim> martinA should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: martinA should now be muted ←
13:05:11 <Zakim> +??P10
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←
13:05:17 <cgueret> zakim, ??P10 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P10 is me ←
13:05:17 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
13:05:19 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:05:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.509.554.aaaa, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), +1.516.353.aabb, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.509.554.aaaa, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), +1.516.353.aabb, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret ←
13:05:20 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
13:05:23 <Zakim> Caroline has Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Yaso ←
13:05:23 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
13:05:30 <ericstephan> that is me
Eric Stephan: that is me ←
13:05:46 <ericstephan> zakim, AAA is me
Eric Stephan: zakim, AAA is me ←
13:05:46 <Zakim> sorry, ericstephan, I do not recognize a party named 'AAA'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ericstephan, I do not recognize a party named 'AAA' ←
13:06:03 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me
Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:06:03 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it ←
13:06:37 <adler1> zakim, aabb is me
Steven Adler: zakim, aabb is me ←
13:06:37 <Zakim> +adler1; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1; got it ←
13:07:44 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline has Vanessa-Tonini
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline has Vanessa-Tonini ←
13:07:44 <Zakim> +Vanessa-Tonini; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vanessa-Tonini; got it ←
13:08:13 <Caroline_> Hadley: we need to aprove last week minutes
Hadley Beeman: we need to aprove last week minutes ←
13:08:20 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140221
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140221 ←
13:08:30 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140214
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140214 ←
13:08:40 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: aprove last week minutes
PROPOSED: aprove last week minutes ←
13:08:46 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:08:50 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:08:50 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:08:51 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:08:53 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:08:54 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:09:00 <Vinh> +1
Vinh Nguyen: +1 ←
13:09:03 <Vanessa-Tonini> +1
Vanessa Me Tonini: +1 ←
13:09:18 <cgueret> +0 (wasn't here...)
Christophe Gueret: +0 (wasn't here...) ←
13:09:25 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, vanessa-tonini is with caroline_
Hadley Beeman: zakim, vanessa-tonini is with caroline_ ←
13:09:25 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_' ←
13:09:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here? ←
13:09:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), adler1, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), adler1, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), Caroline, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret (muted) ←
13:09:38 <Zakim> Caroline has Vanessa-Tonini
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline has Vanessa-Tonini ←
13:09:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see MakxDekkers, Vanessa-Tonini, martinA, Ig_Bittencourt, Caroline_, Vinh, yaso, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, adler1, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MakxDekkers, Vanessa-Tonini, martinA, Ig_Bittencourt, Caroline_, Vinh, yaso, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, adler1, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman, ←
13:09:38 <Zakim> ... ivan, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ivan, sandro, trackbot ←
13:09:41 <martinA> Link to the minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14
Martín Álvarez: Link to the minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14 ←
13:09:43 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, caroline_ is caroline
Hadley Beeman: zakim, caroline_ is caroline ←
13:09:43 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'caroline_' ←
13:09:46 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:09:54 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, caroline is caroline_
Hadley Beeman: zakim, caroline is caroline_ ←
13:09:55 <PhilA> These things do get easier/quicker as time goes on - honestly
Phil Archer: These things do get easier/quicker as time goes on - honestly ←
13:09:55 <Zakim> +caroline_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +caroline_; got it ←
13:10:26 <Zakim> + +1.937.343.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.343.aacc ←
13:10:55 <Vinh> zakim, aacc is me
Vinh Nguyen: zakim, aacc is me ←
13:10:55 <Zakim> +Vinh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh; got it ←
13:11:33 <Caroline_> Yaso: we have to explain how the track works
Yaso Córdova: we have to explain how the track works ←
13:11:36 <yaso> ACTION
Yaso Córdova: ACTION ←
13:11:38 <PhilA> Topic: Tracker
13:11:38 <Zakim> -adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1 ←
13:11:41 <PhilA> See https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/
Phil Archer: See https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/ ←
13:11:55 <Zakim> +adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: +adler1 ←
13:12:16 <Caroline_> ... when you type ACTION, the robot creates an action and determines some actions
... when you type ACTION, the robot creates an action and determines some actions ←
13:12:25 <PhilA> action-1?
13:12:25 <trackbot> action-1 -- Eric Stephan to Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-1 -- Eric Stephan to Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN ←
13:12:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/1
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/1 ←
13:12:41 <PhilA> action-2?
13:12:41 <trackbot> action-2 -- Deirdre Lee to Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-2 -- Deirdre Lee to Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN ←
13:12:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/2
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/2 ←
13:12:48 <Caroline_> ... in the last minutes we have the link to the actions https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14
... in the last minutes we have the link to the actions https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14 ←
13:13:38 <PhilA> See Eric's page at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members
Phil Archer: See Eric's page at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members ←
13:13:57 <Caroline_> PhilA: Erick has been very efficient and he sent an email with the wiki page https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members
Phil Archer: Erick has been very efficient and he sent an email with the wiki page https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members ←
13:14:33 <PhilA> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Feb/0040.html Eric's mail
Phil Archer: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Feb/0040.html Eric's mail ←
13:14:41 <Caroline_> ... Erick email was entitle reading the tools
... Erick email was entitle reading the tools ←
13:15:22 <Caroline_> ... you put in the subject of the email ACTION
... you put in the subject of the email ACTION ←
13:15:43 <Caroline_> ... ACTION name to is to design someone to do that action
... ACTION name to is to design someone to do that action ←
13:16:13 <Caroline_> ... so if the person in charge does not do it, you can ask he or she to do it
... so if the person in charge does not do it, you can ask he or she to do it ←
13:17:01 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members
Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Reading_Material_for_DWBP_Working_Group_Members ←
13:17:11 <Caroline_> ... ACTION 1 is enough to determine the tasks to the tracker
... ACTION-1 is enough to determine the tasks to the tracker ←
13:17:36 <yaso> Zakim, Who's speaking?
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Who's speaking? ←
13:17:47 <yaso> Zakim, who's talking?
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, who's talking? ←
13:17:51 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 13 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 13 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:18:02 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:18:12 <yaso> tks Hadley
Yaso Córdova: tks Hadley ←
13:18:32 <Caroline_> Ericstephan: three diferent categories ???; relevante vocalularies
Eric Stephan: three diferent categories ???; relevante vocalularies ←
13:19:21 <Caroline_> ... the last piece the community is interested is the datay activity. I am working on use cases
... the last piece the community is interested is the datay activity. I am working on use cases ←
13:19:37 <Caroline_> ... Data on Palo Alto is one of the use cases contributions for this working group
... Data on Palo Alto is one of the use cases contributions for this working group ←
13:19:43 <yaso> Hadley, maybe I must be more polite with him ;-)
Yaso Córdova: Hadley, maybe I must be more polite with him ;-) ←
13:19:50 <MTCarrasco> Some of this should be added https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices#References
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Some of this should be added https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices#References ←
13:20:06 <Caroline_> Hadley: when you expect us to get started right now?
Hadley Beeman: when you expect us to get started right now? ←
13:20:22 <Caroline_> Ericstephan: I think we could use diferent resources
Eric Stephan: I think we could use diferent resources ←
13:20:35 <Caroline_> ... I think is important to everybory to go trhough
... I think is important to everybory to go trhough ←
13:20:52 <Caroline_> ... would be helpful to bring this to discussion and include this on ??
... would be helpful to bring this to discussion and include this on ?? ←
13:21:20 <Caroline_> Hadley: it is useful to see what it on the field
Hadley Beeman: it is useful to see what it on the field ←
13:21:39 <Caroline_> ... could be your responsability to bring to us what could be useful
... could be your responsability to bring to us what could be useful ←
13:21:49 <Caroline_> ... it will become more useful as we get it
... it will become more useful as we get it ←
13:22:10 <Caroline_> CLOSE ACTION
CLOSE ACTION ←
13:22:21 <Caroline_> CLOSE ACTION 1
13:22:32 <PhilA> close action-1
Phil Archer: close ACTION-1 ←
13:22:32 <trackbot> Closed action-1.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-1. ←
13:22:34 <Caroline_> CLOSE ACTION!
CLOSE ACTION! ←
13:22:38 <Caroline_> CLOSE ACTION1
13:22:46 <Caroline_> CLOSED CATION-1
CLOSED CATION-1 ←
13:22:51 <PhilA> action-1?
13:22:51 <trackbot> action-1 -- Eric Stephan to Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members -- due 2014-02-21 -- CLOSED
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-1 -- Eric Stephan to Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members -- due 2014-02-21 -- CLOSED ←
13:22:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/1
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/1 ←
13:23:13 <Caroline_> Phil: if we againg asks the trackbot what is there it shows the first action is closed
Phil Archer: if we againg asks the trackbot what is there it shows the first action is closed ←
13:23:37 <yaso> "this group has opened and closed his first action" \o/
Yaso Córdova: "this group has opened and closed his first action" \o/ ←
13:23:55 <Caroline_> Phil: ericstephan can just edit the action-1 before sending it by email again
Phil Archer: ericstephan can just edit the ACTION-1 before sending it by email again ←
13:24:34 <Caroline_> Phil: actions make sure that everyone is doing what they suppose to do
Phil Archer: actions make sure that everyone is doing what they suppose to do ←
13:24:55 <Caroline_> ... if it ends up being resolved ny a teleconference resolution than gets resolved as well
... if it ends up being resolved ny a teleconference resolution than gets resolved as well ←
13:25:11 <Caroline_> ... the discipline behind is actual critical for the process
... the discipline behind is actual critical for the process ←
13:25:25 <Caroline_> Hadley: I'd like to discuss particular points
Hadley Beeman: I'd like to discuss particular points ←
13:25:41 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:25:42 <Caroline_> Hadley: the next point of the agenda is the use cases
Hadley Beeman: the next point of the agenda is the use cases ←
13:25:55 <Caroline_> ... we can take a look on the work the editors have done
... we can take a look on the work the editors have done ←
13:26:03 <Caroline_> ... here https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
... here https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:26:11 <Caroline_> ... it is as shame they are not here
... it is as shame they are not here ←
13:26:39 <Caroline_> PHilA: is it possible to think about templates and what kind o things they can have tehre
Phil Archer: is it possible to think about templates and what kind o things they can have tehre ←
13:27:05 <Caroline_> s/tehre is there//
s/tehre is there// (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:27:27 <yaso> q+ yaso
Yaso Córdova: q+ yaso ←
13:27:48 <Caroline_> ... do you think about what is there?
... do you think about what is there? ←
13:27:59 <Caroline_> Yaso: I think we can focus on the challenges of the use cases
Yaso Córdova: I think we can focus on the challenges of the use cases ←
13:28:07 <Caroline_> ... we could start with the Palo Alto Data sotry
... we could start with the Palo Alto Data story ←
13:28:19 <Caroline_> ... or we could start with dados.gov.br
... or we could start with dados.gov.br ←
13:28:28 <yaso> data.gov.br
Yaso Córdova: data.gov.br ←
13:28:32 <Caroline_> ... the developers of the MInistry of Planning could help us
... the developers of the MInistry of Planning could help us ←
13:28:41 <gatemezi> s/sotry/story
13:28:49 <Caroline_> ... we could start listening about the challenges the developers faced
... we could start listening about the challenges the developers faced ←
13:28:53 <cgueret> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
13:29:04 <Caroline_> Hadley: I was thinking about the common questions we could have out of the discussion
Hadley Beeman: I was thinking about the common questions we could have out of the discussion ←
13:29:15 <HadleyBeeman> ack yaso
Hadley Beeman: ack yaso ←
13:29:19 <Caroline_> ... Yaso,would you like to start talking about one of them
... Yaso,would you like to start talking about one of them ←
13:29:35 <Caroline_> ... we can start asking how to organize and how to make this data more integrated to other catalogues
... we can start asking how to organize and how to make this data more integrated to other catalogues ←
13:30:01 <Caroline_> ... dados.gov.br didn't used integrated vocabularies
... dados.gov.br didn't used integrated vocabularies ←
13:30:07 <ericstephan> :-)
Eric Stephan: :-) ←
13:30:17 <Caroline_> ... the first challenge was how to integrate their catalogue with others catalogues
... the first challenge was how to integrate their catalogue with others catalogues ←
13:31:02 <Caroline_> ... the first challenge is how to use vocabuaries to integrate data catalogues
... the first challenge is how to use vocabuaries to integrate data catalogues ←
13:31:11 <cgueret> -q
Christophe Gueret: -q ←
13:31:23 <Caroline_> ... we have other catalogues but they are not integrated yet because they didn't use other data catalogues
... we have other catalogues but they are not integrated yet because they didn't use other data catalogues ←
13:31:41 <Caroline_> ... how they use vocabularies like DCAT to integrate with other data catalogues
... how they use vocabularies like DCAT to integrate with other data catalogues ←
13:32:02 <Ig_Bittencourt_> +q
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +q ←
13:32:07 <Caroline_> ... I think this would be the first challenge and maybe the most important challenge at dados.gov.br
... I think this would be the first challenge and maybe the most important challenge at dados.gov.br ←
13:32:11 <PhilA> q+ to introduce action - setting syntax
Phil Archer: q+ to introduce action - setting syntax ←
13:32:17 <Ig_Bittencourt_> Zakim, unmute me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, unmute me ←
13:32:17 <Zakim> sorry, Ig_Bittencourt_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Ig_Bittencourt_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
13:32:27 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the phone?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:32:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), caroline_, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret (muted), Makx_Dekkers, Vinh,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, MTCarrasco (muted), Ivan (muted), PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), caroline_, HadleyBeeman, martinA (muted), cgueret (muted), Makx_Dekkers, Vinh, ←
13:32:30 <Zakim> ... adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: ... adler1 ←
13:32:30 <Zakim> caroline_ has Vanessa-Tonini
Zakim IRC Bot: caroline_ has Vanessa-Tonini ←
13:32:33 <Ig_Bittencourt_> I can hear you
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: I can hear you ←
13:32:41 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ig_bittencourt is ig_bittencourt_
Hadley Beeman: zakim, ig_bittencourt is ig_bittencourt_ ←
13:32:41 <Zakim> +ig_bittencourt_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ig_bittencourt_; got it ←
13:32:43 <PhilA> zakim, unmute Ig_Bittencourt
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute Ig_Bittencourt ←
13:32:43 <Zakim> ig_bittencourt_ should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ig_bittencourt_ should no longer be muted ←
13:32:58 <Ig_Bittencourt_> http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/ ←
13:32:59 <Caroline_> Ig_Bittencourt: I'd like to understand better Yaso's proposal
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: I'd like to understand better Yaso's proposal ←
13:33:44 <Ig_Bittencourt_> I am having problems with the call.
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: I am having problems with the call. ←
13:33:49 <yaso> Zakim, who's making noise?
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, who's making noise? ←
13:33:59 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ig_bittencourt_ (20%), caroline_ (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ig_bittencourt_ (20%), caroline_ (9%) ←
13:34:01 <Caroline_> Ig, could you type what you just said?
Ig, could you type what you just said? ←
13:34:01 <Ig_Bittencourt_> My question is if your UC proposal is like this here: http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: My question is if your UC proposal is like this here: http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-bp/ ←
13:34:30 <Ig_Bittencourt_> For example, are youu proposing a UC for best practices for integrating volcabularies?
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: For example, are youu proposing a UC for best practices for integrating volcabularies? ←
13:34:38 <Caroline_> Yaso: yes, something like that
Yaso Córdova: yes, something like that ←
13:34:42 <Ig_Bittencourt_> ok.
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: ok. ←
13:34:52 <Caroline_> ... we have to work more on the this idea
... we have to work more on the this idea ←
13:34:56 <adler1> didn't we review the challenges from Palo Alto on the last call?
Steven Adler: didn't we review the challenges from Palo Alto on the last call? ←
13:35:04 <Caroline_> ... we should work on the mail list, but it is something like that
... we should work on the mail list, but it is something like that ←
13:35:09 <PhilA> zakim, who is making noise?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is making noise? ←
13:35:16 <Ig_Bittencourt_> zakim, mute me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: zakim, mute me ←
13:35:17 <Zakim> ig_bittencourt_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ig_bittencourt_ should now be muted ←
13:35:18 <Caroline_> Hadley: I think there is a lot capacity to do it
Hadley Beeman: I think there is a lot capacity to do it ←
13:35:20 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ig_bittencourt_ (4%), caroline_ (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ig_bittencourt_ (4%), caroline_ (4%) ←
13:35:38 <Caroline_> ... we could possible talk about specific vocabularies, or which ones could be created
... we could possible talk about specific vocabularies, or which ones could be created ←
13:35:39 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:35:42 <Caroline_> ... a lot we can add here
... a lot we can add here ←
13:35:47 <HadleyBeeman> ack ig
Hadley Beeman: ack ig ←
13:36:04 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute ig
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute ig ←
13:36:04 <Zakim> ig_bittencourt_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: ig_bittencourt_ should now be muted ←
13:36:06 <Caroline_> Ig_Bittencourt: my questions was that one
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: my questions was that one ←
13:36:12 <ivan> zakim, who is noisy?
Ivan Herman: zakim, who is noisy? ←
13:36:18 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil
Hadley Beeman: ack phil ←
13:36:18 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to introduce action - setting syntax
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to introduce action - setting syntax ←
13:36:23 <Zakim> ivan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (80%), caroline_ (9%), Makx_Dekkers (56%)
Zakim IRC Bot: ivan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (80%), caroline_ (9%), Makx_Dekkers (56%) ←
13:36:41 <Caroline_> PhilA: I was thinkg aloud here. Yaso sugested turning that challenge in a use case, which I think is a very good idea
Phil Archer: I was thinkg aloud here. Yaso sugested turning that challenge in a use case, which I think is a very good idea ←
13:36:49 <PhilA> action Yaso to add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki
Phil Archer: action Yaso to add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki ←
13:36:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-3 - Add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-3 - Add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:37:11 <PhilA> action-3?
13:37:11 <trackbot> action-3 -- Yaso Córdova to Add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-3 -- Yaso Córdova to Add dataos.gob.br to use case wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN ←
13:37:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/3
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/3 ←
13:37:20 <Caroline_> ... by doing what I did up here is a new action in the system
... by doing what I did up here is a new action in the system ←
13:37:41 <yaso> Zakim dataos.gov.br/data.gov.br
Yaso Córdova: Zakim dataos.gov.br/data.gov.br ←
13:37:51 <Caroline_> ... as a remind first of all to the person who has the action and for everyone to know data
... as a remind first of all to the person who has the action and for everyone to know data ←
13:38:03 <yaso> data.gov.br
Yaso Córdova: data.gov.br ←
13:38:07 <Caroline_> s/dataos.gov.br is dados.gov.br
s/dados.gov.br is dados.gov.br ←
13:38:43 <PhilA> s/dataos.gov.br/dados.gov.br/
13:39:44 <Caroline_> ACTION cgueret can add an entry about http://www.pilod.nl too if that sounds useful (it's about Dutch gov data registers)
ACTION cgueret can add an entry about http://www.pilod.nl too if that sounds useful (it's about Dutch gov data registers) ←
13:39:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Can add an entry about http://www.pilod.nl too if that sounds useful (it's about dutch gov data registers) [on Christophe Gueret - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-4 - Can add an entry about http://www.pilod.nl too if that sounds useful (it's about dutch gov data registers) [on Christophe Gueret - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:39:46 <adler1> 95% of this call is spent discussing W3C procedures
Steven Adler: 95% of this call is spent discussing W3C procedures ←
13:39:54 <cgueret> \o/
Christophe Gueret: \o/ ←
13:40:07 <adler1> I feel like a beaurocrat
Steven Adler: I feel like a beaurocrat ←
13:40:08 <ericstephan> I can add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov
Eric Stephan: I can add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov ←
13:40:12 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
13:40:35 <yaso> hahaha adler1 don't you feel like that. Bureaucrats don't talk to robots :-)
Yaso Córdova: hahaha adler1 don't you feel like that. Bureaucrats don't talk to robots :-) ←
13:40:46 <Caroline_> Hadley: about the Palo Alto call of last week
Hadley Beeman: about the Palo Alto call of last week ←
13:40:56 <MakxDekkers> +q
Makx Dekkers: +q ←
13:41:18 <Caroline_> ... are we going to put information about use cases information in the week. I am wondering if someone is goig to add the top information about it
... are we going to put information about use cases information in the week. I am wondering if someone is goig to add the top information about it ←
13:41:28 <Zakim> +Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh ←
13:41:29 <Caroline_> ... I think this person would be Steve
... I think this person would be Steve ←
13:41:34 <ericstephan> Yes
Eric Stephan: Yes ←
13:41:53 <Caroline_> Steve: I added in the IRC channel last week and I sent an email out
Steven Adler: I added in the IRC channel last week and I sent an email out ←
13:42:02 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, Ig_Bittencourt_ is Ig_Bittencourt
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, Ig_Bittencourt_ is Ig_Bittencourt ←
13:42:02 <Zakim> +Ig_Bittencourt; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ig_Bittencourt; got it ←
13:42:07 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:42:07 <Caroline_> Hadley: we adding in the wiki
Hadley Beeman: we adding in the wiki ←
13:42:14 <Caroline_> ... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
... https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:42:26 <Caroline_> Steve: I will put in there
Steven Adler: I will put in there ←
13:42:29 <Caroline_> Hadley: Tahnk you!
Hadley Beeman: Tahnk you! ←
13:42:32 <ericstephan> +q
Eric Stephan: +q ←
13:42:36 <yaso> Zakim, caroline_ has nathalia_
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, caroline_ has nathalia_ ←
13:42:36 <Zakim> +nathalia_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia_; got it ←
13:42:40 <HadleyBeeman> ack makx
Hadley Beeman: ack makx ←
13:42:42 <Caroline_> s/tahnk/thankyou
s/tahnk/thankyou (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:43:00 <Caroline_> Makx: I left a question about a week ago
Makx Dekkers: I left a question about a week ago ←
13:43:10 <Caroline_> ... do we want to keep
... do we want to keep ←
13:43:24 <Caroline_> ACTION Steve puting information about Palo Alto on the web
ACTION Steve puting information about Palo Alto on the web ←
13:43:24 <trackbot> Error finding 'Steve'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'Steve'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
13:43:24 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:43:44 <Caroline_> ... I understand on the wiki the use cases elements are part of my message
... I understand on the wiki the use cases elements are part of my message ←
13:44:00 <Caroline_> ... the questions I have is if someone is talking aobut data what are they talking about?
... the questions I have is if someone is talking aobut data what are they talking about? ←
13:44:18 <Caroline_> ... I was wondering if we should focus on specific types of data
... I was wondering if we should focus on specific types of data ←
13:44:38 <PhilA> action adler1 to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
Phil Archer: action adler1 to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:44:38 <trackbot> Error finding 'adler1'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'adler1'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
13:44:45 <Caroline_> ... the question that I have is do we want to limite ourselfs with some themes or do we want to be completely open?
... the question that I have is do we want to limite ourselfs with some themes or do we want to be completely open? ←
13:44:50 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Feb/0029.html
Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Feb/0029.html ←
13:44:50 <PhilA> action Steve to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
Phil Archer: action Steve to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:44:50 <trackbot> Error finding 'Steve'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'Steve'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
13:44:59 <Caroline_> Hadley: should we discuss it or leave this to the editors?
Hadley Beeman: should we discuss it or leave this to the editors? ←
13:44:59 <PhilA> action Adler to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases
Phil Archer: action Adler to add use cases arising from Palo Alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases ←
13:45:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Add use cases arising from palo alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/use_cases [on Steven Adler - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-5 - Add use cases arising from palo alto to wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/use_cases [on Steven Adler - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:45:18 <Caroline_> ... we do need to describe somewhere what we are working on
... we do need to describe somewhere what we are working on ←
13:45:50 <Caroline_> Makx: what we can do is before collecting use cases, defining which is the scope or we can define the scope before
Makx Dekkers: what we can do is before collecting use cases, defining which is the scope or we can define the scope before ←
13:46:00 <Caroline_> ... it is important to define the scope
... it is important to define the scope ←
13:46:02 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:46:11 <cgueret> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
13:46:12 <Caroline_> ... best practices is probably different from many things
... best practices is probably different from many things ←
13:46:24 <Caroline_> ... we must select what are the things we want to talk about
... we must select what are the things we want to talk about ←
13:46:28 <cgueret> +1 !
Christophe Gueret: +1 ! ←
13:46:48 <cgueret> to the proposal of turning the mail into Wiki content
Christophe Gueret: to the proposal of turning the mail into Wiki content ←
13:46:54 <Caroline_> ... puting together use cases is always a good idea
... puting together use cases is always a good idea ←
13:47:12 <Caroline_> ... maybe we need to see what people come up with in terms of use cases
... maybe we need to see what people come up with in terms of use cases ←
13:47:16 <HadleyBeeman> caro: I was suggesting doing a wiki page on scope (based on Makx's email) in parallel with the Use Case document, and then try to make sense of them before we publish them.
Caroline Burle: I was suggesting doing a wiki page on scope (based on Makx's email) in parallel with the Use Case document, and then try to make sense of them before we publish them. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
13:47:20 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:47:41 <Caroline_> ... we may want to talk about who in the group is able to make best practices recomendations of each of ??
... we may want to talk about who in the group is able to make best practices recomendations of each of ?? ←
13:47:57 <Caroline_> ... use that collection of use cases to try to determine what we can actually do
... use that collection of use cases to try to determine what we can actually do ←
13:48:00 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
13:48:16 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I think is importante to catch many os use cases
Eric Stephan: I think is importante to catch many os use cases ←
13:48:17 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:48:20 <cgueret> +1
Christophe Gueret: +1 ←
13:48:22 <cgueret> -q
Christophe Gueret: -q ←
13:48:29 <Caroline_> ... I like Makx initial email
... I like Makx initial email ←
13:48:34 <adler1> use cases keep us somewhat objective
Steven Adler: use cases keep us somewhat objective ←
13:48:48 <Caroline_> ... I think it is a good list of what we can use of these use cases
... I think it is a good list of what we can use of these use cases ←
13:48:52 <ericstephan> http://rfore.pnnl.gov/
Eric Stephan: http://rfore.pnnl.gov/ ←
13:48:56 <adler1> and they build relationships with market leaders who may otherwise not care about what we produce
Steven Adler: and they build relationships with market leaders who may otherwise not care about what we produce ←
13:49:11 <Caroline_> ... I also would like to offer a use case based on a project that I am leading right now http://rfore.pnnl.gov/
... I also would like to offer a use case based on a project that I am leading right now http://rfore.pnnl.gov/ ←
13:49:15 <PhilA> action stephan to add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki
Phil Archer: action stephan to add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki ←
13:49:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-6 - Add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:49:29 <Caroline_> ... is to implement best practices that are coming ou of W3C and other organizations
... is to implement best practices that are coming ou of W3C and other organizations ←
13:49:50 <Caroline_> ... I think is a exciting way for people to see what is being implemented in other working groups
... I think is a exciting way for people to see what is being implemented in other working groutps ←
13:49:51 <gatemezi> s/ou/out
13:49:58 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:50:00 <Caroline_> Hadley: I think this sounds very useful
Hadley Beeman: I think this sounds very useful ←
13:50:00 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:50:01 <Caroline_> +1
+1 ←
13:50:09 <HadleyBeeman> ack yaso
Hadley Beeman: ack yaso ←
13:50:31 <Caroline_> Yaso: That's why I suggested to divide yuour working stages related to sections
Yaso Córdova: That's why I suggested to divide yuour working stages related to sections ←
13:50:34 <adler1> especially important to gather use case examples from every continent
Steven Adler: especially important to gather use case examples from every continent ←
13:50:40 <HadleyBeeman> +1 adler1
Hadley Beeman: +1 adler1 ←
13:50:47 <Caroline_> ... data type responds of what kind of data we are collecting and puting on the web
... data type responds of what kind of data we are collecting and puting on the web ←
13:51:12 <Caroline_> ... we could talk about distribution, collection, storage, which measn working with modules
... we could talk about distribution, collection, storage, which measn working with modules ←
13:51:25 <Caroline_> ... then we could have to think of these modules and divide
... then we could have to think of these modules and divide ←
13:51:41 <Caroline_> Hadley: should we put on the wiki separately?
Hadley Beeman: should we put on the wiki separately? ←
13:51:43 <Caroline_> Yaso: yes
Yaso Córdova: yes ←
13:51:56 <Caroline_> ACTION Yaso will put the types of modules in the wiki
ACTION Yaso will put the types of modules in the wiki ←
13:51:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Will put the types of modules in the wiki [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-7 - Will put the types of modules in the wiki [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:52:15 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:52:18 <cgueret> +q
Christophe Gueret: +q ←
13:52:24 <Caroline_> Hadley: I am thinkg about when this use cases coud be used
Hadley Beeman: I am thinkg about when this use cases coud be used ←
13:52:54 <Caroline_> ACTION Yaso will create a scope for the modules
ACTION Yaso will create a scope for the modules ←
13:52:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-8 - Will create a scope for the modules [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-8 - Will create a scope for the modules [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:52:59 <MakxDekkers> I was not voluntering
Makx Dekkers: I was not voluntering ←
13:53:10 <MakxDekkers> OK
Makx Dekkers: OK ←
13:53:20 <ericstephan> Can we vote to volunteer Makx?
Eric Stephan: Can we vote to volunteer Makx? ←
13:53:31 <cgueret> :)
Christophe Gueret: :) ←
13:53:41 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:53:45 <HadleyBeeman> ack
Hadley Beeman: ack ←
13:53:47 <cgueret> zakim, unmute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, unmute me ←
13:53:47 <Zakim> cgueret should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should no longer be muted ←
13:54:08 <Caroline_> cgueret: do we want to have ???in that scope document?
Christophe Gueret: do we want to have data preservationin that scope document? ←
13:54:12 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
13:54:12 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
13:54:16 <cgueret> zakim, unmute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, unmute me ←
13:54:16 <Zakim> cgueret should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should no longer be muted ←
13:54:22 <HadleyBeeman> s/???/data preservation
13:54:24 <PhilA> I would like to see data preservation in scope if the WG agrees. (I'm in the PRELIDA group_
Phil Archer: I would like to see data preservation in scope if the WG agrees. (I'm in the PRELIDA group_ ←
13:54:27 <cgueret> PRELIDA http://prelida.eu/
Christophe Gueret: PRELIDA http://prelida.eu/ ←
13:54:33 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:54:33 <Caroline_> ... the link is http://prelida.eu/
... the link is http://prelida.eu/ ←
13:54:57 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:55:23 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: data preservation is in the scope of WG
PROPOSED: data preservation is in the scope of WG ←
13:55:29 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:55:39 <HadleyBeeman> ack cgue
Hadley Beeman: ack cgue ←
13:55:42 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:55:57 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is making noise?
Zakim, who is making noise? ←
13:56:08 <Caroline_> Zakim, mute cgueret
Zakim, mute cgueret ←
13:56:08 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted ←
13:56:09 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (61%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA (61%) ←
13:56:43 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:56:43 <Caroline_> PhilA: data preservation is a great point
Phil Archer: data preservation is a great point ←
13:56:59 <Caroline_> ... maybe data preservation could be useful for us
... maybe data preservation could be useful for us ←
13:56:59 <MTCarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:56:59 <Zakim> MTCarrasco was not muted, MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: MTCarrasco was not muted, MTCarrasco ←
13:57:07 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
Phil Archer: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:57:21 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: I agree with the question of data. I think data preservation is out of the scope
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I agree with the question of data. I think data preservation is out of the scope ←
13:57:42 <Caroline_> ... on the other hand the access to data preservation should be in the scope
... on the other hand the access to data preservation should be in the scope ←
13:57:52 <Caroline_> ... how to adress the data preservation
... how to adress the data preservation ←
13:58:00 <Caroline_> ... data preservation is a very hard subject
... data preservation is a very hard subject ←
13:58:08 <Caroline_> ... you do transformation of the data
... you do transformation of the data ←
13:58:33 <Caroline_> ... this is a very large subject
... this is a very large subject ←
13:58:44 <PhilA> action dekkers to reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki
Phil Archer: action dekkers to reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki ←
13:58:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-9 - Reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki [on Makx Dekkers - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-9 - Reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki [on Makx Dekkers - due 2014-02-28]. ←
13:58:51 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
13:58:51 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
13:58:52 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
13:58:53 <Caroline_> ... on the other hand, when we have a large amount of data it is not clear how to access the data
... on the other hand, when we have a large amount of data it is not clear how to access the data ←
13:59:03 <Caroline_> ... how to preserve the data is probably out of scope
... how to preserve the data is probably out of scope ←
13:59:05 <adler1> we can urge people to preserve data - especially important during government budget crises such as sequestration
Steven Adler: we can urge people to preserve data - especially important during government budget crises such as sequestration ←
13:59:10 <Caroline_> ... because is a huge scope
... because is a huge scope ←
13:59:35 <adler1> many businesses have doubts about trusting governments to preserve and protect Open Data
Steven Adler: many businesses have doubts about trusting governments to preserve and protect Open Data ←
13:59:49 <adler1> they doubt that the data catalogs will always be funded
Steven Adler: they doubt that the data catalogs will always be funded ←
13:59:54 <MTCarrasco> Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans).
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans). ←
14:00:12 <MTCarrasco> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ltans/charter
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/ltans/charter ←
14:00:18 <adler1> and then there is the desire to erase the historical records of political opponents
Steven Adler: and then there is the desire to erase the historical records of political opponents ←
14:00:42 <Caroline_> ACTION MTCarrasco will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group
ACTION MTCarrasco will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group ←
14:00:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-02-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-10 - Will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group [on Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez - due 2014-02-28]. ←
14:00:46 <adler1> it is an important component
Steven Adler: it is an important component ←
14:00:54 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/ ←
14:00:56 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←
14:00:59 <Caroline_> Hadley: we need to finish the meeting
Hadley Beeman: we need to finish the meeting ←
14:01:00 <MTCarrasco> Bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Bye ←
14:01:01 <adler1> and we can include this in best practices guidance
Steven Adler: and we can include this in best practices guidance ←
14:01:02 <ericstephan> Action heros!
Eric Stephan: Action heros! ←
14:01:07 <martinA> Thanks, bye
Martín Álvarez: Thanks, bye ←
14:01:07 <Ig_Bittencourt> Thanks
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Thanks ←
14:01:08 <Caroline_> ... looking forward to next week
... looking forward to next week ←
14:01:09 <yaso> :-)
Yaso Córdova: :-) ←
14:01:10 <Ig_Bittencourt> bys
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: bys ←
14:01:11 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
14:01:12 <Ig_Bittencourt> bye
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: bye ←
14:01:14 <adler1> ciao
Steven Adler: ciao ←
14:01:15 <cgueret> ok, bye
Christophe Gueret: ok, bye ←
14:01:17 <Zakim> -martinA
Zakim IRC Bot: -martinA ←
14:01:19 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
14:01:21 <Zakim> -adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1 ←
14:02:13 <nathalia_> bye
Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye ←
14:02:25 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:02:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), caroline_, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), caroline_, HadleyBeeman, cgueret (muted), Vinh ←
14:02:27 <Zakim> caroline_ has nathalia_
Zakim IRC Bot: caroline_ has nathalia_ ←
14:02:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see nathalia_, Vanessa-Tonini, Caroline_, Vinh, yaso, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman, ivan, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see nathalia_, Vanessa-Tonini, Caroline_, Vinh, yaso, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman, ivan, sandro, trackbot ←
14:02:29 <Zakim> -Ig_Bittencourt
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ig_Bittencourt ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
14:03:14 <yaso> Bye all! Thanks for all these ACTIONS generated today...
Yaso Córdova: Bye all! Thanks for all these ACTIONS generated today... ←
14:05:44 <PhilA> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=blah&iso=20140411T13&p1=1346
Phil Archer: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=blah&iso=20140411T13&p1=1346 ←
14:08:49 <Zakim> -cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret ←
14:09:07 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:09:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA, caroline_, HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see PhilA, caroline_, HadleyBeeman ←
14:09:08 <Zakim> caroline_ has nathalia_
Zakim IRC Bot: caroline_ has nathalia_ ←
14:09:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see nathalia_, Vanessa-Tonini, Caroline_, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman, ivan, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see nathalia_, Vanessa-Tonini, Caroline_, MTCarrasco, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, cgueret, ElieSL, HadleyBeeman, ivan, sandro, trackbot ←
14:09:20 <Zakim> -caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: -caroline_ ←
14:15:29 <Caroline_> Zakim, set logs member-visible|world
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Zakim, set logs member-visible|world ←
14:15:29 <Zakim> I don't understand 'set logs member-visible|world', Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'set logs member-visible|world', Caroline_ ←
14:15:50 <Caroline_> Zakim, draft minutes
Zakim, draft minutes ←
14:15:50 <Zakim> I don't understand 'draft minutes', Caroline_
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'draft minutes', Caroline_ ←
14:18:16 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:18:18 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has ended ←
14:18:18 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.509.554.aaaa, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, Ivan, +1.516.353.aabb, PhilA, cgueret, Yaso, martinA, ericstephan, adler1, Vanessa-Tonini, Makx_Dekkers, caroline_,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.509.554.aaaa, MTCarrasco, HadleyBeeman, Ivan, +1.516.353.aabb, PhilA, cgueret, Yaso, martinA, ericstephan, adler1, Vanessa-Tonini, Makx_Dekkers, caroline_, ←
14:18:18 <Zakim> ... +1.937.343.aacc, Vinh, Ig_Bittencourt, nathalia_
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.937.343.aacc, Vinh, Ig_Bittencourt, nathalia_ ←
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