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14:02:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 58 minutes
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14:02:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:02:57 <trackbot> Date: 20 October 2014
14:03:06 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
14:04:17 <ivan> Regrets: Bill, Ben, Vlad, Liza, Luc, Laura, Rob, Brady, Phil, Markus
Scribe problem: the name 'Ben' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Ben Ko Ben De Meester . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
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14:04:32 <ivan> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285041672ACE0@SOM-MB.wiley.com
14:04:46 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting agenda for 2014-10-20: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285041672ACE0@SOM-MB.wiley.com
Ivan Herman: ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting agenda for 2014-10-20: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E0285041672ACE0@SOM-MB.wiley.com ←
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14:58:44 <dkaplan3> Zakim, [Safari] is me
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14:58:51 <Zakim> +Tzviya
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14:59:00 <Zakim> +pkra
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14:59:28 <murakami> zakim, ??P26 is me
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14:59:28 <Zakim> +murakami; got it
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14:59:52 <Zakim> +MikeMiller
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15:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.217.300.aabb
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15:00:53 <tzviya> regrets Bill Kasdorf, Ben De Meester, Levantovsky, Vladimir Levantovsky, Liza Daly, Luc Audrain, Laura Dawson, Rob Sanderson, Brady Duga, Phil Madans, Markus Gylling
Tzviya Siegman: regrets Bill Kasdorf, Ben De Meester, Levantovsky, Vladimir Levantovsky, Liza Daly, Luc Audrain, Laura Dawson, Rob Sanderson, Brady Duga, Phil Madans, Markus Gylling ←
15:01:39 <Zakim> + +1.217.300.aacc
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15:01:44 <Zakim> +??P30
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15:01:47 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:01:47 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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15:01:49 <Zakim> +Ivan
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15:01:59 <Zakim> +Stearns
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15:02:38 <dauwhe> scribenick: dauwhe
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15:02:41 <astearns_> zakim, who is noisy?
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15:02:52 <Zakim> astearns_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ivan (23%)
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15:03:44 <Zakim> +Bert
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15:04:04 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
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15:04:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see dauwhe, clapierre, dkaplan3, TimCole, Tzviya, pkra, murakami, +1.646.336.aaaa, MikeMiller, +1.217.300.aacc, ??P30, Ivan, Stearns, Bert
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dauwhe, clapierre, dkaplan3, TimCole, Tzviya, pkra, murakami, +1.646.336.aaaa, MikeMiller, +1.217.300.aacc, ??P30, Ivan, Stearns, Bert ←
15:04:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bert_, Pat_Pagano, Julie, astein, murakami, tzviya, TimCole, clapierre, AH_Miller, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, dauwhe, ivan, liam, rego, astearns_, Karen, dkaplan3, plinss,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Bert_, Pat_Pagano, Julie, astein, murakami, tzviya, TimCole, clapierre, AH_Miller, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, dauwhe, ivan, liam, rego, astearns_, Karen, dkaplan3, plinss, ←
15:04:08 <Zakim> ... trackbot
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15:04:22 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Julie
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15:04:22 <Zakim> +Julie; got it
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15:04:50 <astein> That's probably me, Ayla Stein
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15:04:53 <Zakim> + +1.201.783.aadd
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15:04:54 <ivan> zakim, aacc is astein
Ivan Herman: zakim, aacc is astein ←
15:04:54 <Zakim> +astein; got it
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15:05:05 <Karen> zakim, code?
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15:05:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 3782 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Karen
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15:05:17 <ivan> zakim, aadd is pbelfanti
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15:05:17 <Zakim> +pbelfanti; got it
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15:05:26 <Zakim> + +1.609.216.aaee
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15:05:35 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers
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15:05:43 <ivan> zakim, aaee is laura_fowler
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15:05:43 <Zakim> +laura_fowler; got it
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15:06:39 <ivan> Regrets: Bill, Ben, Vlad, Liza, Luc, Laura, Rob, Brady, Phil, Markus
Scribe problem: the name 'Ben' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Ben Ko Ben De Meester . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Laura' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Laura Dawson Laura Fowler . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Rob' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
15:06:42 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/06-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/06-dpub-minutes.html ←
15:06:46 <dauwhe> tzviya: reviewing minutes from last weeks meeting
Tzviya Siegman: reviewing minutes from last weeks meeting ←
15:06:51 <dauwhe> ... any comments?
... any comments? ←
15:07:04 <dauwhe> tzviya: minutes approved.
Tzviya Siegman: minutes approved. ←
15:07:20 <tzviya> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/
Tzviya Siegman: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/ ←
15:07:20 <dauwhe> ... minor update made to content and markup document
... minor update made to content and markup document ←
15:07:31 <Zakim> + +1.585.217.aaff
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15:07:47 <ivan> zakim, aaff is david_stroup
Ivan Herman: zakim, aaff is david_stroup ←
15:07:47 <Zakim> +david_stroup; got it
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15:08:34 <dauwhe> ... any more feedback on the doc?
... any more feedback on the doc? ←
15:08:51 <dauwhe> ... I shared this with some Wiley colleagues
... I shared this with some Wiley colleagues ←
15:08:54 <tzviya> http://sempublishing.sourceforge.net/
Tzviya Siegman: http://sempublishing.sourceforge.net/ ←
15:09:14 <dauwhe> ... people didn't know what ??? was
... people didn't know what SPAR was ←
15:09:28 <dauwhe> s/???/SPAR
15:09:30 <pkra> +q
Peter Krautzberger: +q ←
15:09:46 <dauwhe> ... the SPAR suite of ontologies is built for digital publishing
... the SPAR suite of ontologies is built for digital publishing ←
15:09:53 <dauwhe> ... link has descriptions
... link has descriptions ←
15:10:09 <dauwhe> ... there is a vocab for digital publishing
... there is a vocab for digital publishing ←
15:10:17 <dauwhe> ... and there's a bibliographic vocabulary
... and there's a bibliographic vocabulary ←
15:10:28 <dauwhe> ... lots are in RDFa
... lots are in RDFa ←
15:10:49 <dauwhe> ... would like to hear this group's feedback. It looks like someone has already done much of the work we want to do
... would like to hear this group's feedback. It looks like someone has already done much of the work we want to do ←
15:11:05 <tzviya> ack pkra
Tzviya Siegman: ack pkra ←
15:11:06 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:11:22 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
15:11:23 <dauwhe> pkra: never mind :)
Peter Krautzberger: never mind :) ←
15:11:28 <pkra> +q
Peter Krautzberger: +q ←
15:11:40 <ivan> David Shotto
Ivan Herman: David Shotto ←
15:11:43 <ivan> David Shotton
Ivan Herman: David Shotton ←
15:11:55 <dauwhe> ivan: He's at Univ. of Oxford
Ivan Herman: He's at Univ. of Oxford ←
15:12:13 <dauwhe> ... he came into this from scholarly publishing perspective
... he came into this from scholarly publishing perspective ←
15:12:25 <dauwhe> ... I don't know if he thought of this as more general
... I don't know if he thought of this as more general ←
15:12:38 <dauwhe> ... looks more like libraries than trade
... looks more like libraries than trade ←
15:12:45 <dauwhe> ... by the way, I know him.
... by the way, I know him. ←
15:13:04 <dauwhe> ... I don't know how widely accepted/implemented this is
... I don't know how widely accepted/implemented this is ←
15:13:12 <dauwhe> ... most people in this group haven't heard of this
... most people in this group haven't heard of this ←
15:13:47 <dauwhe> ... so might not be easy step from academy to 'real world'
... so might not be easy step from academy to 'real world' ←
15:14:02 <TimCole> +q
Timothy Cole: +q ←
15:14:08 <dauwhe> ... not sure why Tzviya says that they have done the work that we want to do
... not sure why Tzviya says that they have done the work that we want to do ←
15:14:13 <dauwhe> tzviya: they've done some.
Tzviya Siegman: they've done some. ←
15:14:21 <dauwhe> ... the document components ontology, for example
... the document components ontology, for example ←
15:14:36 <dauwhe> ... intro / ack / figure etc
... intro / ack / figure etc ←
15:14:41 <dauwhe> ... overlaps my PF work
... overlaps my PF work ←
15:14:59 <dauwhe> ... the biblio work is relevant to Wiley's journal and book work
... the biblio work is relevant to Wiley's journal and book work ←
15:15:09 <dauwhe> ... I think this is worth exploring
... I think this is worth exploring ←
15:15:14 <tzviya> ack TimCole
Tzviya Siegman: ack TimCole ←
15:15:28 <TimCole> my phone line dropped
Timothy Cole: my phone line dropped ←
15:15:38 <Zakim> +TimCole.a
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15:15:42 <pkra> this sounds like echo from mic+speakers.
Peter Krautzberger: this sounds like echo from mic+speakers. ←
15:15:59 <dauwhe> TimCole: I encountered this a while back
Timothy Cole: I encountered this a while back ←
15:16:12 <dauwhe> ... connected to Paolo's work
... connected to Paolo's work ←
15:16:27 <dauwhe> ... it's very focused on scientific use cases
... it's very focused on scientific use cases ←
15:16:37 <dauwhe> ... it overlaps with us but is much more extensive
... it overlaps with us but is much more extensive ←
15:16:51 <dauwhe> ... we can learn from this and leverage some of it
... we can learn from this and leverage some of it ←
15:17:00 <dauwhe> ... but all of it would be overkill
... but all of it would be overkill ←
15:17:09 <dauwhe> tzviya: is it overkill?
Tzviya Siegman: is it overkill? ←
15:17:13 <dauwhe> TimCole: yes
Timothy Cole: yes ←
15:17:13 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:17:22 <tzviya> ack pkra
Tzviya Siegman: ack pkra ←
15:17:42 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
15:17:42 <dauwhe> pkra: never mind x2
Peter Krautzberger: never mind x2 ←
15:18:00 <dauwhe> ivan: let's be careful in separating the different concerns
Ivan Herman: let's be careful in separating the different concerns ←
15:18:32 <dauwhe> ... DPUB is working to find the right mechanism by which a set of terms can be put in a publication
... DPUB is working to find the right mechanism by which a set of terms can be put in a publication ←
15:18:49 <dauwhe> ... that mechanism is independent of set of terms we would use
... that mechanism is independent of set of terms we would use ←
15:18:55 <dauwhe> ... SPAR defines a bunch of terms
... SPAR defines a bunch of terms ←
15:19:13 <dauwhe> ... from our point of view that's fine, but it's a different set of problems
... from our point of view that's fine, but it's a different set of problems ←
15:19:21 <dauwhe> ... the way we discuss things with PF
... the way we discuss things with PF ←
15:19:41 <dauwhe> ... is a simple, flat set of terms like chapter/section/
... is a simple, flat set of terms like chapter/section/ ←
15:19:57 <dauwhe> ... but these guys have much more complex vocabulary based on complex RDF data
... but these guys have much more complex vocabulary based on complex RDF data ←
15:20:13 <dauwhe> ... it's more document metadata rather than document structure
... it's more document metadata rather than document structure ←
15:20:33 <dauwhe> ... it's like ONIX only for scholarly publishing
... it's like ONIX only for scholarly publishing ←
15:21:03 <dauwhe> ... specific vocabulary work is beyond what the group can do
... specific vocabulary work is beyond what the group can do ←
15:21:25 <dauwhe> ... I see it's more important for library community
... I see it's more important for library community ←
15:21:57 <dauwhe> tzviya: that makes sense for individual document component markup
Tzviya Siegman: that makes sense for individual document component markup ←
15:22:15 <dauwhe> ... I think the bibliographic ontology is important for this group
... I think the bibliographic ontology is important for this group ←
15:22:23 <dauwhe> ... that's where library world and content world merge
... that's where library world and content world merge ←
15:22:35 <dauwhe> ... it's worth sharing this with annotations group as well
... it's worth sharing this with annotations group as well ←
15:22:53 <dauwhe> ... a biblio entry has an identifier
... a biblio entry has an identifier ←
15:23:12 <dauwhe> ... the reference to it relates to the identifiers they are working with in the annotations world
... the reference to it relates to the identifiers they are working with in the annotations world ←
15:23:25 <dauwhe> tzviya: any other comments?
Tzviya Siegman: any other comments? ←
15:23:41 <dauwhe> ivan: we can discuss at F2F
Ivan Herman: we can discuss at F2F ←
15:23:59 <dauwhe> ... many people are not on the call today who have strong views
... many people are not on the call today who have strong views ←
15:24:04 <dauwhe> tzviya: agree
Tzviya Siegman: agree ←
15:24:12 <pkra> +q
Peter Krautzberger: +q ←
15:24:23 <dauwhe> ... we'll come back to this as needed
... we'll come back to this as needed ←
15:24:26 <tzviya> ack peter
Tzviya Siegman: ack peter ←
15:24:56 <dauwhe> pkra: there's a math structural semantics group
Peter Krautzberger: there's a math structural semantics group ←
15:25:04 <dauwhe> ... they are talking about speaking math
... they are talking about speaking math ←
15:25:18 <dauwhe> ... a publisher might want to override the speech
... a publisher might want to override the speech ←
15:25:27 <dauwhe> ... where it might be giving away the answer
... where it might be giving away the answer ←
15:25:40 <dauwhe> ... is this related to structural semantics?
... is this related to structural semantics? ←
15:25:48 <dauwhe> ... is it worthwhile connecting up?
... is it worthwhile connecting up? ←
15:25:55 <dauwhe> ivan: math structural semantics group
Ivan Herman: math structural semantics group ←
15:26:29 <dauwhe> tzviya: is this like saying four over five and the answer is 4/5
Tzviya Siegman: is this like saying four over five and the answer is 4/5 ←
15:26:32 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:26:39 <ivan> ack pkra
Ivan Herman: ack pkra ←
15:26:42 <dauwhe> pkra: you might have to identify the thousands in a number
Peter Krautzberger: you might have to identify the thousands in a number ←
15:26:52 <dauwhe> ... this is like informing user agents how to deal with different content
... this is like informing user agents how to deal with different content ←
15:27:03 <tzviya> ack ivan
Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan ←
15:27:16 <dauwhe> ivan: this may be bigger than you imagine
Ivan Herman: this may be bigger than you imagine ←
15:27:29 <dauwhe> ... something bothers me
... something bothers me ←
15:27:35 <dauwhe> ... we have discussion with PF
... we have discussion with PF ←
15:27:43 <dauwhe> ... we are honing into usage of role attribute
... we are honing into usage of role attribute ←
15:27:57 <dauwhe> ... the role attribute is for HTML
... the role attribute is for HTML ←
15:28:15 <dauwhe> tzviya: it's an ARIA attribute used in HTML
Tzviya Siegman: it's an ARIA attribute used in HTML ←
15:28:24 <dauwhe> ivan: can it be used in XML?
Ivan Herman: can it be used in XML? ←
15:28:32 <pkra> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/appendices
Peter Krautzberger: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/appendices ←
15:28:33 <dauwhe> tzviya: I don't know
Tzviya Siegman: I don't know ←
15:28:38 <pkra> 10.1.5. WAI-ARIA Attributes XML Schema Module
Peter Krautzberger: 10.1.5. WAI-ARIA Attributes XML Schema Module ←
15:28:45 <dauwhe> ivan: Peter has the answer.
Ivan Herman: Peter has the answer. ←
15:29:56 <dauwhe> pkra: better to use ARIA than homebrewed solution
Peter Krautzberger: better to use ARIA than homebrewed solution ←
15:30:03 <dauwhe> ivan: let's clarify with PF
Ivan Herman: let's clarify with PF ←
15:30:18 <dauwhe> tzviya: markus will know
Tzviya Siegman: markus will know ←
15:30:19 <TimCole> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SCHEMA/aria-attributes-1.xsd
Timothy Cole: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SCHEMA/aria-attributes-1.xsd ←
15:30:35 <TimCole> This xsd suggests it is intended for multiple vocabularies
Timothy Cole: This xsd suggests it is intended for multiple vocabularies ←
15:32:05 <pkra> Ivan, as in MathML and SVG? :-)
Peter Krautzberger: Ivan, as in MathML and SVG? :-) ←
15:32:13 <dauwhe> lots of people: talking about namespaces
lots of people: talking about namespaces ←
15:32:31 <dauwhe> clapierre: we can use ARIA for SVG, MathML, HTML
Charles LaPierre: we can use ARIA for SVG, MathML, HTML ←
15:32:36 <dauwhe> ... that's the right approach
... that's the right approach ←
15:32:39 <dauwhe> ivan: excellent
Ivan Herman: excellent ←
15:33:03 <dauwhe> pkra: the other way round
Peter Krautzberger: the other way round ←
15:33:27 <dauwhe> ... looking at Math side, I don't think there's a natural move toward ARIA rather than homebrewed solution
... looking at Math side, I don't think there's a natural move toward ARIA rather than homebrewed solution ←
15:33:38 <dauwhe> ... they might not want to depend on other WGs
... they might not want to depend on other WGs ←
15:34:08 <dauwhe> tzviya: sounds like pronunciation lexicons
Tzviya Siegman: sounds like pronunciation lexicons ←
15:34:23 <dauwhe> ... or putting in local language
... or putting in local language ←
15:34:39 <dauwhe> ... I can indicate that in an english book this individual word is french
... I can indicate that in an english book this individual word is french ←
15:34:56 <dauwhe> ... we're trying to indicate that this is math vs this is a question
... we're trying to indicate that this is math vs this is a question ←
15:35:18 <dauwhe> ... should this be a spelled-out word (four over five) vs fraction (four fifths) ???
... should this be a spelled-out word (four over five) vs fraction (four fifths) ??? ←
15:35:27 <clapierre> +1
Charles LaPierre: +1 ←
15:35:33 <pkra> +1
Peter Krautzberger: +1 ←
15:35:57 <dauwhe> tzviya: next step: clarify what Math is looking for. Are they looking for terms? or for pronunciation cues, or something else?
Tzviya Siegman: next step: clarify what Math is looking for. Are they looking for terms? or for pronunciation cues, or something else? ←
15:36:06 <dauwhe> pkra: the discussion has just started.
Peter Krautzberger: the discussion has just started. ←
15:36:26 <dauwhe> tzviya: It's a good discussion to have
Tzviya Siegman: It's a good discussion to have ←
15:36:44 <dauwhe> ... could bring up during a11y discussion
... could bring up during a11y discussion ←
15:36:56 <clapierre> agreed
Charles LaPierre: agreed ←
15:36:58 <dauwhe> pkra: one use case
Peter Krautzberger: one use case ←
15:37:13 <dauwhe> ... substituting a part of an expression
... substituting a part of an expression ←
15:37:34 <dauwhe> ... how do you share that information with a user agent like an a11y tool?
... how do you share that information with a user agent like an a11y tool? ←
15:38:10 <pkra> +1
Peter Krautzberger: +1 ←
15:38:26 <dauwhe> ivan: are there any syntactic problems here?
Ivan Herman: are there any syntactic problems here? ←
15:38:54 <dauwhe> tzviya: that's an interesting topic, worth exploring when we talk to PF
Tzviya Siegman: that's an interesting topic, worth exploring when we talk to PF ←
15:39:08 <dauwhe> tzviya: we are through our agenda. any other comments?
Tzviya Siegman: we are through our agenda. any other comments? ←
15:39:29 <dauwhe> ... next week many of us will be at TPAC, so no call
... next week many of us will be at TPAC, so no call ←
15:39:33 <clapierre> q+
Charles LaPierre: q+ ←
15:39:36 <dauwhe> ... we will have a call on Nov. 3
... we will have a call on Nov. 3 ←
15:39:53 <dauwhe> clapierre: I will be at TPAC
Charles LaPierre: I will be at TPAC ←
15:39:53 <tzviya> ack clapierre
Tzviya Siegman: ack clapierre ←
15:40:03 <Julie> q+
Julie Morris: q+ ←
15:40:11 <dauwhe> ... on thursday evening Benetech will have "born accessible" team
... on thursday evening Benetech will have "born accessible" team ←
15:40:34 <dauwhe> ... at a local pub
... at a local pub ←
15:40:40 <dauwhe> tzviya: can you email group?
Tzviya Siegman: can you email group? ←
15:40:44 <dauwhe> clapierre: yes
Charles LaPierre: yes ←
15:40:44 <tzviya> ack julie
Tzviya Siegman: ack julie ←
15:40:56 <dauwhe> Julie: I won't be able to attend TPAC
Julie Morris: I won't be able to attend TPAC ←
15:41:04 <dauwhe> ... will there be remote participation?
... will there be remote participation? ←
15:41:06 <dauwhe> ivan: yes
Ivan Herman: yes ←
15:41:18 <dauwhe> ... Zakim will be attending our meetings
... Zakim will be attending our meetings ←
15:41:53 <dauwhe> tzviya: Final agenda will come this week
Tzviya Siegman: Final agenda will come this week ←
15:42:01 <dauwhe> ... along with dial-in information
... along with dial-in information ←
15:42:12 <Zakim> -??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P30 ←
15:42:15 <Karen> See you in Santa Clara!
Karen Myers: See you in Santa Clara! ←
15:42:17 <dauwhe> ... thanks everyone.
... thanks everyone. ←
15:42:19 <Zakim> -astein
Zakim IRC Bot: -astein ←
15:42:20 <Zakim> -Julie
Zakim IRC Bot: -Julie ←
15:42:21 <Zakim> -dkaplan3
Zakim IRC Bot: -dkaplan3 ←
15:42:25 <Zakim> -pkra
Zakim IRC Bot: -pkra ←
15:42:26 <Zakim> -Stearns
Zakim IRC Bot: -Stearns ←
15:42:26 <Zakim> -MikeMiller
Scribe problem: the name 'MikeMiller' does not match any of the 84 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Ayla Stein Ben Ko Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Dawson Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Michael Miller Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -MikeMiller ←
15:42:26 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen_Myers ←
15:42:27 <Zakim> -Tzviya
Zakim IRC Bot: -Tzviya ←
15:42:27 <Zakim> -laura_fowler
Zakim IRC Bot: -laura_fowler ←
15:42:28 <Zakim> -david_stroup
Zakim IRC Bot: -david_stroup ←
15:42:28 <Zakim> -TimCole.a
Scribe problem: the name 'TimCole.a' does not match any of the 84 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Ayla Stein Ben Ko Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Dawson Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Michael Miller Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -TimCole.a ←
15:42:30 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
15:42:30 <Zakim> -clapierre
Zakim IRC Bot: -clapierre ←
15:42:31 <Zakim> -dauwhe
Zakim IRC Bot: -dauwhe ←
15:42:31 <Zakim> -pbelfanti
Zakim IRC Bot: -pbelfanti ←
15:42:34 <Zakim> -murakami
Zakim IRC Bot: -murakami ←
15:42:42 <Zakim> -Bert
Zakim IRC Bot: -Bert ←
15:43:02 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
Ivan Herman: rrsagent, draft minutes ←
15:43:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/20-dpub-minutes.html ivan
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/20-dpub-minutes.html ivan ←
15:43:22 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon
Ivan Herman: trackbot, end telcon ←
15:43:22 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
15:43:23 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been dauwhe, clapierre, TimCole, dkaplan3, Tzviya, pkra, +1.646.336.aaaa, murakami, MikeMiller, +1.217.300.aabb, +1.217.300.aacc, Ivan, Stearns,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been dauwhe, clapierre, TimCole, dkaplan3, Tzviya, pkra, +1.646.336.aaaa, murakami, MikeMiller, +1.217.300.aabb, +1.217.300.aacc, Ivan, Stearns, ←
15:43:23 <Zakim> ... Bert, Julie, +1.201.783.aadd, astein, pbelfanti, +1.609.216.aaee, Karen_Myers, laura_fowler, +1.585.217.aaff, david_stroup
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Bert, Julie, +1.201.783.aadd, astein, pbelfanti, +1.609.216.aaee, Karen_Myers, laura_fowler, +1.585.217.aaff, david_stroup ←
15:43:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
15:43:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/20-dpub-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/20-dpub-minutes.html trackbot ←
15:43:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
15:43:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items ←
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