W3C

Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference

12 Nov 2013

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Lisa_Seeman, Janina_Sajka, Michael_Cooper, Debbie_Dahl, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Cynthia_Shelly, Jason_White, Mark_Sadecki, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Katie_Haritos-Shea
Regrets
Chair
Janina_Sajka
Scribe
Ryladog, MarkS, MichaelC, MaryJo, jasonjgw

Contents


<MichaelC> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 12 November 2013

MMI work

<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC

dd: MMI thinking of writing Note on multi-modality for accessibility

speech, graphical, how multi-modality affects a11y

for cognitive, EmotionML is interesting

nearly Rec

use cases for people who have trouble recognizing emotions

tools to help learn to recognize

use cases:

1) representing emotions that have been recognized e.g., via face recognition, gait, voice, intense tapping on keyboard, etc.

2) synthesizing emotions e.g., in speech synthesis

put together, could express an emotion in input and have the TTS represent it in output

helps autisim spectrum

games with an avatar

enhance captioning

can be expressed in different ways, can just say the emotion, put an avatar with appropriate expression, etc.

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EMMA represents semantics derived from less semanticful speech

always used for input, now starting to work on output

create a structured representation of intent that could be rendered in different forms

just starting

want to come up with a bunch of accessibility use cases

e.g., ways to simplify language

ls: interesting - adaptable language

dd: or symbols

ls: best way for dyslexics to learn is multimodal

dd: so redundant output

ls: various types of redundancies

can get really creative with it

dd: common to have systems that speak and display to screen, e.g., for noisy environments

cs: example of software to teach spelling

<scribe> meeting: PF FtF Day 2

ls: somewhat out of scope of cognitive but we´d want to list the benefits

cs: interested in authoring supports

two kinds: helping with a task at hand, and skill teaching

ls: that´s definitely out of scope, because @@

cs: things like spell checking though seems in scope

Readability

dd: work on making text easier to read

help author measure difficult of text and rewrite

and automatic text simplification

there are a whole bunch of readability forumulae

that quantify very specific things

heavily English-centric

can be gamed, hard-to-read text that passes the metrics

there has been validation of measurement via reading comprehensions tests

text simplification is early-stage

question how much text can be simplified

can change meaning

dd: separate modifiers into multiple sentences

ls: see that done with automatic translation
... added risk for cognitive

take translation, if you sort of know you can see that it got it wrong

but for cognitive simplification, can´t rely on user to pick that up

so might be more useful as support for authors to simplify, but needs to be checked author-side

one of the methodologies is alternative content

need metadata that allows people automatically find the right alternative content for their needs

these tools might help authors who prepare that alternative content do so better

cs: there is a lot of work out there on this

dd: intrigued by idea of automated simplification as a first step for authors

there are different language factors that affect readability

can be more difficult to measure

rare words, complexity of sentences, concrete vs abstract concepts, etc.

there is now work on combining natural language understanding with machine learning

machine learning might be able to create simplicity formulae from complex factors

has been done less than might expect

ls: has been done with Hebrew translation, reduce ambiguity re diacritic marks

<a little casual discussion scribe missed>

cs: Pearson may have some stuff

ls: Voice of America had some stuff

Gap analysis and user group research modules

ls: sent call for volunteers yesterday to work on some of this

have some volunteers for sections (will be in wiki)

gap analysis now posted to http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis

<covers how to add your sections>

ask for help with technology if needed, don´t let that impair content productivity

<scribe> ACTION: jason to find resources about classification of cognitive function [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action05]

<trackbot> Error finding 'jason'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.

ls: will add a brainstorming section to wiki

Timeline for gap analysis

ls: would like to do user group research within three months

and rest of background research within 6 months

then do gap analysis in the three months after that

and build suggestions in the three months after that

so a year to complete the entire gap analysis

<tangent into possibilities of future FtF>

basically would like to have a lot of the background material ready for a FtF in roughly 6 months

<discussion of possible call times, will set up a scheduling poll next week>

cognitive taskforce, template for reviewing of standards

Lisa summarizes the fields of the template (to be added to the wiki as a proposal).

Lisa edits the proposal live, with occasional clarificatory comments (of an editorial nature) from meeting participants.

<scribe> ACTION: LisaSeeman to post draft of template to the W3C wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action06]

<trackbot> Error finding 'LisaSeeman'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.

<MichaelC> ACTION: Lisa to post draft of template to the W3C wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1308 - Post draft of template to the w3c wiki [on Lisa Seeman - due 2013-11-19].

<cyns> Persona: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_(user_experience)

<cyns> user story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_story

<cyns> scenario: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_(computing)

<cyns> use case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_case

There is discussion of the value of a persona (or user story), or a collection of representative ones, to capture the needs of people with specific cognitive disabilities.

The purpose is to describe cognitive function and the challenges encountered in using the Web.

It is decided to iterate the process of refining the format of the proposed documentation, starting from the templates and ideas discussed here.

Janina proposes to adjern the meeting.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Janina to Summarily our web CAPTCHA approaches and suggest review with Web App Security Group due 2013-12-18 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: jason to find resources about classification of cognitive function [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Lisa to post draft of template to the W3C wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: LisaSeeman to post draft of template to the W3C wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Mark to talk to systeam about possibly hooking into spec database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: MarkS to talk to systeam about possibly hooking into spec database [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Ryladog to learn how to scribe [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/11/12-pf-minutes#action01]
 
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