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<trackbot> Date: 05 November 2013
<scribe> ScribeNick: adrianba
<scribe> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
acolwell: done
acolwell: posted
<acolwell> https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/43
acolwell: as of this morning 3 open
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169
acolwell: lots of discussion -
aaron can live with won't fixing this
... believe paul contacted dsinger who said he would contact
the appropriate people
... not heard anything
markw: i think one of the
original comments was about microsecond granularity
... so i think we have to consider this rather than won't
fixing the whole issue
... current spec seems infeasible - perhaps say as accurate as
one refresh interval
acolwell: i could propose text - should we change micro to milli
jdsmith: we talked about maybe 1 millisecond resolution - realistically refresh rates will be in multiple millisecond
markw: units could still be microseconds - don't think we could say millisecond - think it should be in terms of frame interval
acolwell: mark, could you propose some text?
markw: okay?
acolwell: any other questions on this one?
adrianba: mark are you okay to provide text?
markw: yes
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441
acolwell: i checked in a change
for this yesterday - made changes so MSE doesn't refer to a
specific format
... need to do another pass - consider this done though - new
bugs if there are other tweaks needed
adrianba: two issues
... 1) not sure if we lost the sense of "you don't have to
support this format but if you do you should do it this
way"
... 2) we have to figure out how to publish the break-out
documents - perhaps as W3C Notes
... or maybe something less formal
... not a major problem but something we need to think
through
acolwell: yes, not sure how we will regulate additions
adrianba: i think we need people to look through these changes and give feedback
acolwell: agree - i started with
glenn's key system document removing the tricky parts of key
systems
... it's bare bones right now
... might need more structure for media formats
... the other thing is whether we need different editors so the
people who care about those formats have more ownership
pal: i'm reading the proposed
text - it says it is the authoritative source of formats
... if it isn't listed should it not work?
acolwell: we can't stop that but
people who accept a format should register the format so we get
interop
... you can do what you want with MSE but if you want interop
then you should register
pal: the registry doesn't say what implementations support
acolwell: yes, you have to use the API to determine that
pal: right, i think the sentence
is misleading because it suggests that if it is not there at
can't be implemented
... someone could support something not listed and still find
out with isTypeSupported
acolwell: yes, but that's not
ideal - rather that they filed a bug with proposed text
... ACTION-43 is closed
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23558
acolwell: mark and i responded - don't think we've come to a conclusion yet
<markw> I just suggested we close WONT FIX
markw: i think the existing text is fine - if i come up with better text then we can look later
acolwell: now that iso is not in
the MSE spec it technically shouldn't be a blocker
... resolving the bug right now WONTFIX
close ACTION-45
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-45.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23661
acolwell: resolved WORKSFORME this morning because we're not restricting anything
close ACTION-46
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-46.
<pal> Proposed text: "The byte stream format registry provides a mapping between return values of canPlayType() and byte stream format specifications."
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23663
adrianba: was planning to find a bug to dup this to indicating that we wanted someone to work on a primer
acolwell: i will make the text
change i indicated
... i will make the text change today - simple one line
change
adrianba: so we'll close 23663
later today and then we just need text for the jitter
issue
... if mark can add the text for 23169 to the bug and we give
people a couple of days to review
... then we can add to the spec and close
... i think we've met the requirement of contacting people who
reported issues using Bugzilla
acolwell: i'm not an expert here - not sure if i can lead this
adrianba: i can talk through
this
... [discussion of LC to CR process]
acolwell: any other questions?
pal: i suggested some text in 23441
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441#c2
<pal> The statement "the byte stream format registry is the authoritative source for byte stream format specifications that can be accepted by a SourceBuffer" implies that implementations cannot support a byte stream unless it is listed in the registry. Per the call earlier, this does not sound like it is the objective.
<pal> Suggest instead: "The byte stream format registry provides a mapping between return values of canPlayType() and byte stream format specifications."
acolwell: we would need to tweak this - these are values for isTypeSupported
pal: my point is to make a
statement of fact instead of something normative
... if you want to see what is the defining spec for a
particular format go see this registry
acolwell: part of the reason why
i was using authoritative source text was to try to have the
weight of saying you have to implement it this way
... adrian's comments suggest i wasn't successful
... so i will try again to address both your concerns
pal: thank you
acolwell: nothing
<pal> see you next week
acolwell: i think we're done for today
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