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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
29 Oct 2013

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<trackbot> Date: 29 October 2013

<davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter

2274#

You can't hear me now!

<scribe> scribe: janina

ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for

<clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Oct/0010.html

AXElementBusy; update UAIG? Tests would need same modifications.

in AriaProperties, not LegacyIAccessible.Description. Or both?

<clown> action-1263?

<trackbot> action-1263 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to AXARIABusy is probably going to change to something less ARIA-specific, like AXBusy or AXElementBusy -- due 2013-09-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1263

UAIG. Let's try to finish the test cases during the meeting.

[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10

[18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=ARIA&component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116

<davidb> cynthia's ETA is 5 mins from now

ACTION-1263: (All) WebKit has replaced AXARIABusy with

<clown> action-1263?

<trackbot> action-1263 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to AXARIABusy is probably going to change to something less ARIA-specific, like AXBusy or AXElementBusy -- due 2013-09-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1263

clown: Ax ARIA-Busy is going to change, according to JC
... JC OK whether we change this in 1.1 or 1.0
... Prefer to do it now

[agreement to do it in 1.1]

<davidb> (+1 for living document!)

ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset

ACTION-1275, ACTION-1276, ACTION-1277 (All) Test cases for

<clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#User_Agent_Implementation_Guide_Testable_Statements

db: Haven't added any

mc: Because there were no issues?
... Q is whether our tests are comprehensive

db: Think so

<MichaelC> currently we have test cases 42, 43, 44, 103

clown: Believe I did these this morning!

<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=2&testcase_id=62

<davidb> nice

db: So, we only need to make sure this now maps to the guide

clown: So believe bullet 7 no longer matters

mc: Q: Anything in this section not covered in those 4 test cases?

<davidb> discussing guide 5.1.2 6 bullets:

mc Believe, and should be verified, bullet 1 is test 103

mc 2 is 42

mc 3 is 43

mc: 4 is 44

clown: 6 is covered by 62-66

js: leaves 5 what coveres 5

db: Implicitly sprinkled throughout

clown: Suppose we should have a test with "hidden=true"
... Certainly have an entire section on globals

<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=1

clown: From 75-157 is a series of elements including global state & prop -- maybe not all, but lots
... Oops 74-157

db: Don't see anything that will cause UAIG edit

<davidb> famous last words

db: Could do another test to be even more certain of the globals, zakim, close this item

ACTION-1285: (Cynthia) MSAA+UIA and UIA mapping of aria-posinset

<clown> action-1285?

<trackbot> action-1285 -- Shane McCarron to Review w3c html ruby markup extensions http://www.w3.org/tr/html-ruby-extensions/ -- due 2013-10-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1285

<clown> action-1286?

<trackbot> action-1286 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Change the msaa+uia and uia mappings of aria-posinset to (word smith): expose in ariaproperties. -- due 2013-11-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1286

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases/edit?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=346

cyns: can confirm not in the description any longer
... suggest taking legacy description stuff out
... just aria-properties
... descript to a "may"
... ditto for uia, but without the "may"

<davidb> gotta run

clown: will get this done

test case 74

rs: supposed to get remove followed by insert
... we get several rounds of removal and insertion

js: suggests this comes under "we don't care about sequencing"

<clown> IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE followed immediately by IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED

<clown> Change to: IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE and by IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED.

<clown> Change to: IAccessible2: IA2_EVENT_TEXT_REMOVE and IA2_EVENT_TEXT_INSERTED.

<clown> ACTION: Joseph to change section 5.8.2, first table for "When text is changed" row: remove sequencing from MSAA+IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI columns. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/29-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1288 - Change section 5.8.2, first table for "when text is changed" row: remove sequencing from msaa+ia2 and atk/at-spi columns. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2013-11-05].

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/default/ARIA-UAIG/1.0/tests/test-files/test74.html

test 92

clown: currently discussion in email

rs: passes

clown: we had emails on 90-92

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Joseph to change section 5.8.2, first table for "When text is changed" row: remove sequencing from MSAA+IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI columns. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/29-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
 
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