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HTML Weekly Teleconference

12 Sep 2013

Agenda

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krisk

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 12 September 2013

<scribe> scribe: krisk

<paulc> plh beats paulc

ACTION items due by Thursday, September 5

none

Items Closing This Week

none

Decisions this week

none

<paulc> rubys: Are you joining us?

Outstanding closed CfCs

SUBTOPIC: CfC: Approve overview of Canvas testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria, closed Sept 4

see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0032.html

paulc: note that we have two of them and the closed Sept 4th
... co-chairs needs to meet and discuss both of these two outstanding items

Item #1 Extension

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0043.html

http://www.w3.org/2013/08/15-html-wg-minutes.html#item06

Item #2 Update

CfC: Approve overview of testing in view of permissive CR exit, closed Sep 4

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jun/0033.html

Extension:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0042.html

http://www.w3.org/2013/08/15-html-wg-minutes.html#item06

Last Call and heartbeat publications

<paulc> WG Decisions on both of these CfCs are pending. In the Chairs input queue.

<paulc> We are still waiting on EME and Polyglot Candidate heartbeat Working Drafts from the respective Editors.

paulc: the first is for EME and the next is Polyglot

EME and Polyglot: We are still waiting on EME and Polyglot Candidate heartbeat Working Drafts from the respective Editors.

For EME the editor has been family illness and has been out of the office

For polygot the editor has asked the co-chairs some questions

paulc: for polygot we have zero bugs

<paulc> Polyglot bugs are at zero: http://intertwingly.net/tmp/wgtrends.cgi#html-xhtml-compatibility-authoring-guide

Eliot: The editors are working to compete this and get a candidate working draft and publish this as a heardbeat

paulc: One the document has been published the co-chairs will start to bring the question to the working group on normativity of the document

Next Still waiting for feedback from PF re: WAI-ARIA in HTML:

paulc: This document was almost published but it was blocked because we are waiting for concensus from PF

http://www.w3.org/2013/09/05-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02

paulc: Let me help here
... see the minutes from last week (just above)

<paulc> http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-in-html/

<paulc> What was published this week is: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-aapi/

<paulc> Title: HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide

paulc: The task force needs to take note of publications

<paulc> See bug on status section on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23209

<paulc> PF WG will run a CfC to permi the publication of Using ARIA

janina: I'm sorry and we'll get this done so that PF can permit publication using ARIA

Next Last Call WD: Media Source Extensions published on Sep 5

see http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9930

paulc: Has the accessibility task force looked into MSE?

janina: Yes we are aware of this and are tracking this work

<paulc> Heartbeat WD: HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide published on Sep 10

The next agenda item was discussed above

<paulc> See above discussion.

Task Force Reports

SUBTOPIC:

We met on #testing this week as planned

The discussion was really about TPAC and who is planning on attending

A TTWF event will be occuring at this time and they are looking for some people to potentially give a talk and/or help

Ideally the person can give a talk in Chinese

<paulc> TTWF is on Sat before TPAC week in Shenzen

James Graham will be attending

<paulc> TTWF: http://testthewebforward.org/#

paulc: The chairs may be asking about how the TTF can help with the Canvas Document

krisk: OK

paulc: We suspect is that we have areas of the spec that are at RISK and the features are accessibility related

janina: I believe we are OK

paulc: The spec could move forward by removing the at risk features
... The process would be to delete from 5.0 and then added to 5.1
... Leaving them in 5.1 (v2) would allow implementation time

SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force

paulc: any items to add?

janina: Testing has started (not complete) for implementations
... We are working on how to publish/process comments we have recieved

janins: We have a few bugs on 'alt' in html 5.0

janina: we think we can be done with 'alt' bugs in weeks (not months)

paulc: Their are zero bugs on image description?

janina: We are handling them in tracker and not bugzilla

paulc: We need to have them in bugzilla and I though this was agreed upon last week
... Can you give me a link?

janina: I'll need some more time

<paulc> May be member-only: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/44061/WD-html-longdesc-20130716/

paulc: I found the link - though it's member only which should not be the case

krisk: I also get prompted

paulc: Looks like we have 3 comments?

janina: We have 5 actually

SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force

The TF has worked on EME during the last month

paulc: we have not made alot of progress on bugs
... one of the editors have been out of the office, though we are looking to publish a heartbeat next week
... We do have some last call MSE bugs which means we'll go back to work on the MSE spec
... once these are done we'll work on the EME spec

<paulc> EME status: http://intertwingly.net/tmp/wgtrends.cgi#encrypted-media-extensions

paulc: any questions for the task forces?
... none

Registration for F2F meeting, Shenzen, Nov 14-15

http://www.w3.org/2013/11/TPAC/

HTML WG meets on Thurs/Friday

paulc: 33 people have registers with about 40 observers
... Registration ends on Oct 18th

<plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2013Sep/0004.html

plh: The web performance group wants to meet at the event (one hour?)

<paulc> Wiki agenda page: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-11-Agenda

paulc: please add this the wiki (other agenda items as well)
... what is the specific topic?

<paulc> timing: 02:30 PM - 04:00 PM: HTML5 Working Group visit

plh: Resource priority and pre-rendering

<paulc> on thursday Nov 14

plh: What parts should be in HTML vs the web performance wg

paulc: It sounds like an extension spec?
... why would it not just be in their spec?

plh: Some people think the extension would be better in the HTML spec

paulc: Is this a quality of the spec issue?

plh: We want to first talk about the attributes and then figure where they are best to be located

rubys: We have tried really hard to make sure that attributes that are not in HTML are not second class citizens

paulc: should a co-chair attend a web perf meeting?
... Please tell web perf to discuss this friday morning - ok?

plh: sure

paulc: Many people may needs a visa and the registration page information about getting a 'invitation letter'
... We were holding off on publish until the recent meeting in France
... so we should process the bugs and work on publishing the document

<paulc> Adaptive image spec bugs: http://intertwingly.net/tmp/wgtrends.cgi#adaptive-image-element

paulc: plh it seems we need to have an agenda item to discuss this two features
... any other items to discuss?
... none
... I can c-chair next week

krisk I can scribe

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