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Clarke: let's get started
... let's review the changes and comments on the table and coments if any
... let's review and schedule
... let's look at the table first
<Clarke> survey results table
Clarke: what Giuseppe did was to
consolidate the table
... on top of the table, Giuseppe added the data
paul: the external votes are 17 out of 20, and internal votes are 44 out of 44.
Clarke: that's right. One of the
agenda is to get introduction of the table
... do we think it sufficient, or do we need some explanatory text?
paul: it is the short start of the real table of data. probably it is enough
Paul: I know we agree to do this,
I am fine with the result. I don't know how we assign the value
to the result
... if you scroll down a little bit of the table
... for example CSS Flexible, the score is 9. There are different way to give 9, or give 4 or 3
... the 3rd column, you got 17 from different ways, for example 4 can say 4 and 1 can say 1, or 2 can say 4 and 3 can say 3
Clarke: I agree if you get the sample site, it won't you give you a lot of information, it gives you some information. For example, if you get 500 response
Kaz: we have done the merge of external response and internal response, but can we do some analysis?
<kaz> ... e.g., from 2-dimensional viewpoint. internal vote value can correspond to X-axis, and external vote value can correspond to Y-axis
Clarke: I am wondering if we can
proactively to do this,
... or if HTML test task force comes back, and tells us something
... I am open
paul: graph is interesting, and
we can learn from quadrant
... what the priorities are
Clarke: if you want to do a graph, we can all look at it and add some important information
Kaz: I can do this
<scribe> ACTION: Kaz to add a graph for discussion [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Add a graph for discussion [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2013-09-04].
Clarke: the table stays the same. the graph would be essentially the whole table
Sheau: my understanding is to get one column is x, one column is y, and each row is a graph
Clarke: I am not sure which is easy way to see
Kaz: I will do the easiest to see. There are options to draw graph. Maybe I can explore those options
<kaz> ... simple graph or scatter one
<kaz> ... may be 2-d or might be 3-d
Sheau: I support the idea of graph, I am not sure which way to visualize it
paul: bubble graph, x internal
votes 0 to 44, y external votes 0 to 20
... we also need to learn it once we have done it
Clarke: we can do that, and take
a look at it next time
... any other comments on the table?
... if not, let move on to the next topic
<Clarke> Requirements document
Clarke: is there any track
changes in google doc? I couldn't see what changes Giuseppe
... he highlighted it
... looks like he re-organize it
Paul: there is a revision history
Clarke: let's toggle between them
Clarke: I didn't notice anything
that is obviously a change. Maybe we need Giuseppe to explain
what changes he made next time
... maybe I will ask him to point out what are the changes
<scribe> ACTION: Clarke to ask Giuseppe to point out the changes of the requirement document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Ask giuseppe to point out the changes of the requirement document [on Clarke Stevens - due 2013-09-04].
Clarke: are there changes someone else made?
Sheau: I assume the formatting will be cleaned up later, right?
Clarke: right. Also we talked
about the document organizational changes last time. Such as
details are inconsistent
... Giuseppe wanted to normalize it a little bit
... referencing general standard
... we want to capture what need to be tested
... let's move on to schedule
... last week we had a proposal to get the table there. We are almost there.
... Is there an official format?
Kaz: we can have an Editor Draft
version. Later on, we can use HTML format to be more conformant
to W3C style
... I can create a static HTML file based on that
... then we can ask webmaster to publish it
Clarke: are you going to do
... If nobody else, I will work with Kaz, Giuseppe, Daniel on that
<scribe> ACTION: Clarke to work with Giuseppe, Kaz and Daniel to convert the table to HTML format [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/28-webtv-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Work with giuseppe, kaz and daniel to convert the table to html format [on Clarke Stevens - due 2013-09-04].
Clarke: any other business?
... if not, thank you and we will have tasks for the next a couple weeks
... let's adjourn
<Clarke> Thanks, bin
<kaz> [ adjourned ]