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HTML5 & ARIA Technqiues for WCAG

11 Jul 2013

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Attendees

Present
James_nurthen, +1.254.247.aaaa, Paul_Adam, Adam_Solomon, Loretta, Marc_Johlic, Jon_Gunderson, +1.425.456.aabb, Robin
Regrets
Detlev
Chair
James_Nurthen
Scribe
adam_solomon, Loretta

Contents


<jamesn> regrets Detlev

<jamesn> scribe:adam_solomon

<jamesn> F63: Failure of Success Criterion 2.4.4 due to providing link context only in content that is not related to the link

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130628ttf/results#xlabel

F63

making edit to expected results

ua notes should be left in the meantime

loretta: while in discussion helpful to have testing data , for publishing maybe reduce them

james: ua notes more appropriate for sufficient technique as opposed to failure

loretta: if we have a technique for aria-label or labelledby then the notes should be moved there

james: should we now remove the motes from the failure? or write "see the related ua notes from ...
... changed accordingly

re: paul's comment about table header context

loretta: test for failure relying on sufficient technique text (not so good)
... check #1 isn't so great

<jamesn> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F63

james: current f63 says the same in check #1

loretta: nevertheless not good language

jon: suggest using aria property instead of header for context

loretta: still need a testable procedure

paul: what ever is mentioned in the sufficient technique can then be tested for in the failure

james: so table header option should be added to f63 in the test

paul: we would then have to update failure every time technique changes

loretta: more general failure test advisable

james: step #2 can cover table header option, so we can leave step #1 alone

paul: step 1 should cover all non-aria, while step 2 covers aria

james: should avoid editing steps unless absolutely necessary

resolution: editing step 1 to add table headers

F65

james: aria-labelledby - should be in the test

paul: ditto

james: add it to the list? or make the test generic?

jon: if role is presentation does it need alt?

james adding comment re: aria-labelledby, role=presentation, aria-hidden, etc.

james: we can add general wording to (title) that the scope is content (not hidden or presentation)
... would be relevant about all failures
... aria-hidden generally used for elements not visible on the page

jon: use case could be hiding inaccessible version of page

paul: aria-hidden doesn't always work

james: for focusable stuff it would be overridden

james; what about raising this issue on a larger level (not just for this failure)

<Loretta> scribe: Loretta

<jamesn> ACTION: james to raise to WCAG issue of hidden content and failure techniques [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]

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Resolution: leave open to handle role-presentation, accessible naming mechanisms (including aria-labelledby)

F59

Title changed per Loretta's comment.

<jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/ARIA-edit:_F59:_Failure_of_Success_Criterion_4.1.2_due_to_using_script_to_make_div_or_span_a_user_interface_control_in_HTML_without_providing_a_role_for_the_control

Add ARIA role technique to Related Techniques.

Resolution: send to WG for review.

People are encouraged to complete more techniques.

<jamesn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/ARIA#Ready_for_WG_Review

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: james to raise to WCAG issue of hidden content and failure techniques [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/11-html-techs-tf-minutes.html#action01]
 
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