<trackbot> Date: 12 June 2013

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<trackbot> Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 12 June 2013

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<trackbot> Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 12 June 2013

<scribe> Meeting: Appendix E subgroup

http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2013/ED-IMPLEMENTING-UAAG20-20130607/#alternative-content-list

tag the list .... @alt for IMG (HTML4.x, HTML5)

<jeanne> group agrees that tagging (html4, html5, svg) is more useful than separate lists

jr: this is really a WCAG thing. a distillation of WCAG techniques

gl: should link to this from the Glossary, and SC, IER that mention alternative content

js: are we serving a purpose with this list.

gl: having a list is useful, for testing,etc.
... also for developers, to make sure they are covered.

js: perhaps as a table,

gl: then filterable/sortable

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/tabletools2/

need a preramble.

gl: this list of alternative content is provide to help developers and testors, to ensure they are complying with the SC in this documents for alternaive content formats and attributes mentioned

<jeanne> GL: This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content.

<jeanne> This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content. It is recommended that you test user agents against all of the alternative contents for all the document formats of the user agent.

gl: need disclaimer, this list is not comprehensive

<jeanne> These are the elements and attributes that present 'alternative content' relevant to Guideline 1. This list of alternative content is provided to help developers and testers insure that they are correctly handling and complying with success criteria in this document that relate to alternative content. It is recommended that you test user agents against all of the alternative contents for all the

<jeanne> document formats supposed by the user agent. This may not be a comprehensive list

ja: fallback content is a huge problem.

<Greg> ClickToPlugin & ClickToFlash Safari extensions: ClickToPlugin is a lightweight and highly customizable extension that prevents Safari from launching plug-ins automatically, resulting in faster browsing, reduced fan usage, and increased battery life. It replaces every plug-in object by an unobtrusive placeholder that can be clicked to load the embedded content. Further, it can replace many...

<Greg> ...plug-in-based media players by Safari’s native HTML5 media player. ClickToFlash is a restriction of ClickToPlugin that only deals with Flash content. (http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/)

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html

<Jan> Ahhh they call it "H53: Using the body of the object element" http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html#H53

http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/elements.html#fallback-content

<Jan> For embed its use of noembed http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/html.html#H46

html5 3.2.5.1.6 fallback on the following audio

canvas

embed

iframe

img

math

object

svg

video

<Jan> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/access.html

<scribe> meeting: Appendix E sub-group minutes

accessibility features of SVG - http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/NOTE-SVG-access-20000807/

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