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<trackbot> Date: 16 May 2013
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action-1200?
<trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due 2013-05-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200
CS: I haven't started that.
issue-550?
<trackbot> ISSUE-550 -- Come up with a date to stop editing UAIG in preparation for the next Last Call Draft -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/550
JS: i'm doing some edits to today and will close this out.
ACTION-1221?
<trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559, remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221
JS: I will try to get to these modifications today as well.
ISSUE-582?
<trackbot> ISSUE-582 -- We don't have an explicit mapping, for each platform, for the focusable state in the UAIG -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/582
CS: I was testing a test case about focusable, and didn't see the expected result.
JS: there is a table in the UAIG for focusable states.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#focus_state_event_table
JS: For MSAA it's STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE and for UIA it's UIA_IsKeyboardFocusablePropertyId
CS: Yes, but I wasn't seeing
that. It might not be implemented that way IE.
... Let's ask RIch for more info about this.
JS: good idea.
ISSUE-584?
<trackbot> ISSUE-584 -- Firefox has introduce a role mapping of grouping for rowgroup (should this be consistent across platforms) -- open
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/584
JS: Looks like UIA expresss and
UIA both do something for row group — AriaRole is 'rowgroup'
and as 'group' role in UIA.
... the other platforms don't map it.
CS: I think FF puts the string 'rowgroup' in MSAA accRole, but that's supposed be an enumerated type, not a string.
JS: I think they are going to
change that behaviour.
... there is another issue about removing it.
CS: the html meeting last week —
Steve F was going to change the mapping table to put something
in for rowgroup and something for table elements like
thead.
... I think it works for me.
... I don't think this is change we need — it's a "works for
me".
... I also think that the last one about focusable is also
"works for me". If Rich wants to re-open it, he can.
JS: I think I bring these up at a weekly meeting, and ask if we can close them, or if not, what else do we need to do.
action-818?
<trackbot> ACTION-818 -- Cynthia Shelly to [TESTING] Investigate aria-expanded for UAIG, true/false/undefined value type -- due 2011-08-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/818
CS: I think we are already
testing this. I don't think this is needed anymore.
... I'll just close it.
action-973?
<trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Cynthia Shelly to work with David Bolter and Larry Weiss to create testable statements for UAIG 4.2 Controlling focus with tabindex, bullet 11 -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973
CS: this is still open. It's
really tricky.
... there is DOM focus, and desktop focus, and, sometimes
"real" focus.
... this is still active — move the due to Jul 15.
JS: there were some active descendant test cases. Maybe these tests already exist. Someone should look.
CS: MS and FF disagree what is
the correct way to deal with this.
... Larry, David and I crafted some wording, but it is a
fragile detente.
... I may get to this earlier. We'll see.
action-982?
<trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Cynthia Shelly to create UIA special case test cases from existing generated test cases. -- due 2012-03-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982
CS: there are a bunch of mappings
that say, "it maps to this, except when, …" and "it maps to
this, but also map this other thing".
... these need to be hand crafted. Move the due date to july
1.
action-1104?
<trackbot> ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2013-02-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
CS: I don't know what the right
answer is for this.
... for UIA express, we put it into the legacy description
field.
... I still need to think about this some more.
... I think there should be an accessible object for it, but
make it not focusable.
... change due date to next week.
JS: done.
action-1210?
<trackbot> ACTION-1210 -- Cynthia Shelly to research why test case 267 fails. Is UAIG or IE10 impl correct? -- due 2013-05-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1210
CS: that's still active. Next week.
JS: that's it for you.
... let's call it a meeting then.
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