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HTML Weekly Teleconference

28 Feb 2013

Agenda

Attendees

Present
dio, Plh, jaymunro, Eliot, Radhika_Roy, Sam, hober, [Microsoft], Travis
Regrets
Chair
rubys
Scribe
hober

Contents


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<trackbot> Date: 28 February 2013

<scribe> ScribeNick: hober

Items Closing This Week

rubys: there was a cfc to publish the image description spec
... received support, but no official decision has been published

Task Force Reports

Testing Task Force

krisk: we met this week
... tf is starting to discuss robin's coverage report
... so we can prioritize which parts of the spec to concentrate on
... prioritize areas where we think there are interop issues
... e.g. how to determine encoding in "the input bytestream" section

Media Task Force

rubys: we're waiting on feedback on the various bugs opened on the EME spec

Open Web Platform Weekly Summary

rubys: it's being regularly updated

Registration for the F2F

<plh> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda

plh: registration deadline is april 5
... each group has its own registration page
... that page links to e.g. the webapps f2f page, so if you need to register for both you can find the links there
... this page is also where people can add agenda items

Other Other Business

plh: on the 26th we published two documents
... use cases & reqs for responsive images, and the <picture> element

hober: the srcset="" spec got published today

plh: and the public ids draft also got published
... we now don't have a publication backlog

Scribe for next meeting

rubys: it'll be mjs' turn to chair

Adjournment

rubys: we are adjourned

Summary of Action Items

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Succeeded: s|is that a joke?||
Succeeded: s|darobin ^^||
Succeeded: s|timeless: "(draft)"||
Succeeded: s|it's WIP||
Succeeded: s|it looks like a joke||
Succeeded: s|sorry, outlook is being stupid||
Succeeded: s|huh?||
Succeeded: s|darobin: there's a tag item here||
Succeeded: s|yay!||
Succeeded: s|= brownie points!||
Succeeded: s|http://www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison#contact||
Succeeded: s|and thank me for the reference||
Succeeded: s|my colleague would be able to use it to smack them a bit :)||
FAILED: s|that announcement would make my life easier||
Succeeded: s|just pick any liaison they've received||
Succeeded: s|i don't care||
Succeeded: s|oh we've told them a million times||
Succeeded: s|do you have an official announcement on that?||
Succeeded: s|about that||
Succeeded: s|HAHAHAHAHAHA||
Succeeded: s|and if by any chance it's good, well, we can always RF it :)||
Succeeded: s|i believe they claim they sent a liason-statement and heard nothing||
Succeeded: s/if it doesn't have use cases, we'll ask for them//
Succeeded: s|if they don't want us to standardise it, we'll just reply "uhm, okay. bye then"||
Succeeded: s|timeless: have them just send it||
Succeeded: s|this SDO suffers from NIH (as do most)||
Succeeded: s|after all, W3 is merely a gateway'd body via ISO, not a true SDO :/||
Succeeded: s|since they're an SDO, they don't feel any obligation to play nicely||
Succeeded: s|if so, just point them at pubrules and call it a day||
Succeeded: s|afaict they don't intend to submit it to W3 to be standardarized in W3||
Succeeded: s|this is something you want to kill, right?||
Succeeded: s|just tell them to submit, but to be sure to make it in proper HTML spec form||
Succeeded: s|that won't earn browny points faster either. which is um...||
Succeeded: s|and given that i'm not legally allowed to write an email to the entity, it has to be sent under my colleague's name||
Succeeded: s|really isn't going to get me many browny points||
Succeeded: s|writing to this SDO saying `you didn't write a good spec` and `your use cases aren't solid`||
Succeeded: s|THERE IS NO BAR||
Succeeded: s|it would never get to FPWD, but you could submit that as an extension spec||
Succeeded: s|yeah you could||
Succeeded: s|timeless: tl;dr is just write a good spec with SOLID USE CASES||
Succeeded: s|so if i want to i could add <img timeless="foo"> ?||
Succeeded: s|but you know the drill||
Succeeded: s|no, hence the wiki page||
Succeeded: s|is there text in the html spec which outlines the basic rules?||
Succeeded: s|given that a colleague is demanding some stuff today, that doesn't help me :/||
Succeeded: s|and you'll get them, I think tomorrow||
Succeeded: s|timeless: so do you!||
Succeeded: s|i'm looking for some official guidelines||
Succeeded: s|but I'm not WIPing it in wiki because wikis suck||
Succeeded: s|hi btw :)||
Succeeded: s|that announcement would make my life easier||
Succeeded: s|yeah||
Succeeded: s|if etc.||
Succeeded: s|of course||
Succeeded: s|heh||
Succeeded: s|well||
Succeeded: s|so um||
Succeeded: s|ugh||
FAILED: s|that announcement would make my life easier||
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Succeeded: s|we've been telling the ISO secretariat for years that if they insist on sending email to TimBL about liaisons to a group, nothing much will ever happen||
Succeeded: s|yet they still do it||
Succeeded: s|we have team-liaisons@w3.org *just*for*that*||
FAILED: s|oh we've told them a million times||
FAILED: s|i don't care||
Succeeded: s/nope, not using chrome//
Succeeded: s|and with a random token at the end of the url i still see those lines||
Succeeded: s|that announcement would make my  life easier||
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Default Present: dio, Plh, jaymunro, Eliot, Radhika_Roy, Sam, hober, [Microsoft], Travis
Present: dio Plh jaymunro Eliot Radhika_Roy Sam hober [Microsoft] Travis
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JanMar/0018.html
Found Date: 28 Feb 2013
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2013/02/28-html-wg-minutes.html
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