<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 28 February 2013
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
rubys: there was a cfc to publish
the image description spec
... received support, but no official decision has been
published
krisk: we met this week
... tf is starting to discuss robin's coverage report
... so we can prioritize which parts of the spec to concentrate
on
... prioritize areas where we think there are interop
issues
... e.g. how to determine encoding in "the input bytestream"
section
rubys: we're waiting on feedback on the various bugs opened on the EME spec
rubys: it's being regularly updated
<plh> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda
plh: registration deadline is
april 5
... each group has its own registration page
... that page links to e.g. the webapps f2f page, so if you
need to register for both you can find the links there
... this page is also where people can add agenda items
plh: on the 26th we published two
documents
... use cases & reqs for responsive images, and the
<picture> element
hober: the srcset="" spec got published today
plh: and the public ids draft
also got published
... we now don't have a publication backlog
rubys: it'll be mjs' turn to chair
rubys: we are adjourned
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