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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

24 Jan 2013

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Attendees

Present
sean, glenn, mmartin3, Andreas, pal, Thomas_Bause_Mason, Plh, Philippe, mijordan
Regrets
mike
Chair
<scribe> Sean Hayes
Scribe
mmartin3

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 24 January 2013

<scribe> scribe: mmartin3

zakim list attendees

SDP-US

sean: Few minor editorial issues identified.
... Formally move to have the document ratified.

pal: Add item to agenda on input of Issue-199 impact on SDP-US.

sean: Pre-requisite to move profile forward.

pal: Yes.

sean: SDP-US refer to TTML 1.0 SE.

Action-137?

<trackbot> ACTION-137 -- Glenn Adams to add "TTML" to name of SDP-US. Link: http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/ -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/137

close action-137

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-137 Add "TTML" to name of SDP-US. Link: http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/.

action-138?

<trackbot> ACTION-138 -- Glenn Adams to delete 2 paragraphs after table in Appendix B of SDP-US. -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/138

close action-138

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-138 Delete 2 paragraphs after table in Appendix B of SDP-US..

action-139?

<trackbot> ACTION-139 -- Glenn Adams to correct font size in Example 2 in SDP-US. -- due 2013-01-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/139

close action-139

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-139 Correct font size in Example 2 in SDP-US..

mmartin3: Minor editorial issues given directly to Glenn.
... No issue.

glenn: Do we need to add editorial nits?

mmartin3: Yes.
... 1. Do we know all the examples parse?

sean: Examples match schema.

glenn: Updated examples files in source and used in SDP-US. Build will do validation.

sean: This is sufficient. One error before Example 3 (brackets).

mmartin3: Sounds good.

2. Do we want to reference TTML 1.0 so specifically in some text particularly if we have to remap to TTML 1.0 S

scribe: Assumed roll over to SE on all references.

glenn: We reference SE too already.
... Do we need to delay profile to SE publishes?

sean: Part of 1.1 if applicable.

glenn: Note to have a reference to incomplete document?

plh: Yes.
... Reference editorial draft of SE; this is OK.

mmartin3: Forward looking statement.

3. Is this considered a requirement?" Style overrides must be applied to the result of step 2 [resolve computed styles] of [TTML10], Section 8.4.4.4, Style Resolution Process."

glenn: Normative. Use UC.

mmartin3: Section 8.2 in SDP-US.

glenn: Will correct.

mmartin3: No others.

Also: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#Constrained_TTML_Feature_extent_region

We miss in Section 9.

sean: Was this supposed to be there?

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#Features_in_TTML_1.0_Used

Link: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html#mapping-of-us-government-requirements-to-constrained-profile-features

mmartin3: Appendix B - originally writingMode-horizontal-lr

glenn: Will correct.

mmartin3: No others - all editorial.

pal: What is impact of Issue-199 to SDP-US? Not really Issue-199 in isolation.

sean: In terms of profile, Mike's concern is where the time code math of document is different than media.
... Can we say for timing, that they must associate and be consistent with the media.
... Does that work for the SDP-US?

pal: SDP-US is impacted?

sean: Yes.

mmartin3: Review ends Jan 31 so we can discuss Issue-199.
... Forward look to SDP-US.

pal: May be substantive to SDP-US.

glenn: There are multiple options that input to any impact here.

sean: Decide whether we need to take out frameRateMultiplier.

Issue-172?

<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- REGION-OF(E) pseudo-code doesn't match prose -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/172

sean: TBD for me and I have some ideas. Raised by Sony originally. Deal with Jan 31.

Issue-199?

<trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- timeExpression to video frame calculation is unclear in some cases -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199

Defer until Glenn and Mike are present.

back to TOPIC: SDP-US

Defer to get to Issue-199.

Issues

See above

Second Edition

Can we move it to 1st Public Working Draft.

sean: We should do this.
... Any objection?
... None.

Resolved to move to First Public Working Draft.

TTML 1.1.

sean: Handle after we publish SDP-US.

plh: We are behind.

sean: Get out draft this month.

plh: Get SE ready for publication.

sean: SDP-US nailed Jan 31 and start TTML 1.1.

plh: Publish SE as as PR or LC draft?

sean: Depends on Issue-199 and timing issue.
... We had discussed moving directly to PR.

mmartin3: We want to publish Jan 31 SDP-US.

plh: On road Jan 31 but may join.
... Can publish when WG makes a decision.

Adjourned.

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

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