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Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

17 Jan 2013

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
James_Nurthen, +644462aaaa, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Michael_Cooper, Gian_Wild, Kerstin_Probiesch, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Jason_Kiss, mijordan, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, MoeKraft
Regrets
Marc_Johlic, Alex_Li
Chair
Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
MichaelC

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 17 January 2013

<Kerstin> I'm one of the IP Caller

<scribe> scribe: MichaelC

-> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results Survey for 17 January 2013

<scribe> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid

Update of Techniques

lgr: want to publish updates to Techniques to catch up the various edits over the past year

not including ARIA techniques that we´re in the middle of now, that would be separate

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20130117/ Editors´ Draft of Understanding

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2013/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20130117/ Editors´ draft of Techniques

LC-2730 : Why is there a test for CSS?

RESOLUTION: Accept as amended

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Post_WCAG_2 Post WCAG 2 punch list

LC-2723 : Use of ALT=" " (containing a space) contradicts F30

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F30.html

<jnurthen> <div id="test">James<img alt="" src="test">Nurthen</div>

<jnurthen> <input type="text" aria-labelledby="test">

<David> Hi Gian... glad to hear your voice,,,

<scribe> ACTION: Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Draft techniques for picture alt [on Gian Wild - due 2013-01-24].

<scribe> ACTION: JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [on James Nurthen - due 2013-01-24].

RESOLUTION: accept as proposed

LC-2743 : "Page Titled" vs. "Page Titles"

RESOLUTION: accept as proposed

LC-2722, LC-2733 : How to Meet WCAG 2.0: Sufficient Techniques for 1.1.1 – Non-text Content

<scribe> ACTION: cooper to migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [on Michael Cooper - due 2013-01-24].

Leave open for next pass

Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to identify regions of a page

<jnurthen> some alt text results - http://jnurthen.users.sonic.net/alttext.html

<MoeKraft> When defining regions of a web page, authors are advised to consider using standard document landmark roles. If the definitions of these regions are inadequate, authors can use the region role and provide the appropriate accessible name.

<MoeKraft> region (role) # A large perceivable section of a web page or document, that the author feels is important enough to be included in a page summary or table of contents, for example, an area of the page containing live sporting event statistics.

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/rdf_model.png ARIA taxonomy

<MoeKraft> 5.3.4. Landmark Roles # The following roles are regions of the page intended as navigational landmarks. All of these roles inherit from the landmark base type and, with the exception of application, all are imported from the Role Attribute [ROLE]. The roles are included here in order to make them clearly part of the WAI-ARIA Role taxonomy. application banner complementary contentinfo form main navigation search

<David> typo "ta help"

<MoeKraft> Here's the guidance we provide in our checklist, "An application landmark should only apply to an entire region of the page that has a collection of UI components that form an application for which all keyboard handling is solely handled by the application. Since Assistive Technologies recognize widgets and pass keyboard control to them, there is seldom a need to use role="application"."

<MoeKraft> http://www-03.ibm.com/able/guidelines/web/webnavigation.html

Leave open to incorporate comments

Sufficient Technique for SC 2.4.1 : Using ARIA landmarks to bypass blocks of content

Leave open to incorporate comments

Sufficient Technique for SC 1.3.1 : Headings using role=heading

<MoeKraft> https://github.com/davidtodd/landmarks

use cases for role=heading

- retrofitting a site where can´t change DOM element hierarchy because of script effects etc. but can make accessible with role=heading

- headings go down to a level 7 which can´t be represented in HTML but can with role=heading aria-level=7

Leave open to incorporate comments

Advisory Technique for SC 1.3.2 : Using aria-flowto

Do not accept for now; postpone for future work

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: cooper to migrate http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/alt-techniques.html to wiki and incorporate edits from https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130117misc/results#x2722 into a second round proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Gian to draft techniques for picture alt [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: JamesN to run tests on alt=¨ ¨ to input whether we should remove mention of it from F30 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/01/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
 
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