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Forms Working Group Teleconference

12 Dec 2012

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+1.650.919.aaaa, +1.323.425.aabb, alain, nvdbleek
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Nick, nvdbleek

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 12 December 2012

<nvdbleek> scribe: Nick

<nvdbleek> scribe:nvdbleek

XForms 2.0 snapshot review

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2012Dec/0000.html

3.2.2.2 (last examples): [0] is not a valid XPath filter and should

be replaced by [1]

<scribe> ACTION: nvdbleek fix : 3.2.2.2 (last examples): [0] is not a valid XPath filter and should [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action01]

be replaced by [1]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1916 - Fix : 3.2.2.2 (last examples): [0] is not a valid XPath filter and should [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2012-12-19].

Nick: For 'problem with the RFC for CSV: a different separator should

be possible (tab is a possible separator and, with French Excel

version, CSV is constructed with ";" instead of ",")'

Nick: Does the current spec doesn't allow you specify the separtor?

<ebruchez> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180

<ebruchez> COMMA = %x2C

erik: It is a memo not a real specification
... If in practice different separators are used then this could be a problem. In french the decimal separator is a comma, that is why they don't use a comma

Nick: On the instance we don't have extra attributes for the separator

Erik: In the past Leigh proposed to use submission to be able to specify headers. If we load using submission we could use the attributes on submission

Nick: But the submission attributes are for serialisation not the returned result

<ebruchez> Erik: but we could change that

<ebruchez> Erik: and say that the separator attribute works both ways

Nick: We could add an extra mediatype attribute to instance that overrides the parser used to parse the incomming data
... And then we can maybe support a mediatype text/cvs+comma

<xf:instance src="http://foo.com/data.csv" mediatype="text/csv+comma"/>

<ebruchez> Erik: I think I would prefer <xf:instance src="" separator=";">

ebruchez: I'm not sure if we can invent our own media-type

<alain> I'm currently working on supporting ZIP packages with the same problematic for mediatype: http://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/?p=56&preview=true

Alain: CSV is the only format that has the separator problem

Erik: We should use the separator attribute on submission for CSV

Alain: I think that mediatype on the instance is enough

<scribe> ACTION: nvdbleek reply to the CSV email and elaborate on the problem with the separator [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1917 - Reply to the CSV email and elaborate on the problem with the separator [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2012-12-19].

vCard is different from vCalendar and there is the xCard

notation for vCard

Alain: I would propose using xCard

instead of our own markup

Nick: This is just an example
... We should ask steven to add another example that has no XML markup

<scribe> ACTION: Steven have a look at the vCARD example and replace it with a imaginary markup that has no XML notation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1918 - Have a look at the vCARD example and replace it with a imaginary markup that has no XML notation [on Steven Pemberton - due 2012-12-19].

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: nvdbleek fix : 3.2.2.2 (last examples): [0] is not a valid XPath filter and should [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: nvdbleek reply to the CSV email and elaborate on the problem with the separator [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven have a look at the vCARD example and replace it with a imaginary markup that has no XML notation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/12/12-forms-minutes.html#action03]
 
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