<trackbot> Date: 06 December 2012

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<mmartin3> scribenick: Monica

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iana response

<mmartin3> glenn: Concrete annex in TTML 1.0 SE

<mmartin3> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html

<glenn> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#concrete-encoding

<mmartin3> pal: Discuss should vs. shall.

<mmartin3> glenn: Against SE not SDP-US.

<mmartin3> plh: What about IANA response?

<mmartin3> glenn: Can we call it an XML MIME type without a requirement on use of XML.

<mmartin3> ....Question raised by Mike Dolan.

<mmartin3> plh: Template for media type.

<mmartin3> glenn: Need to update.

<mmartin3> plh: Any objections?

<glenn> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#media-type-registration

<mmartin3> glenn: Annex C

<mmartin3> plh: There were are a series of comments that need to be normalized to update the SE.

<mmartin3> plh: Edit existing template.

<mmartin3> See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Nov/0023.html

<mmartin3> (thread)

<mmartin3> mike: Char set was discussed.

<plh> "In the absence of other requirements, a TTML document should be concretely encoded as a well-formed XML 1.0 [XML 1.0] document using the UTF-8 character encoding."

<mmartin3> mike: Should for both XML and UTF-8.

<mmartin3> glenn: Applies to both.

<mmartin3> ...Don't want to trigger substantive changes in SE.

<mmartin3> mike: Be clear with title of Section G.

<mmartin3> mike: G Specific encodings G.1 XML Encoding

<mmartin3> plh: Why not update Conformance section instead?

<mmartin3> glenn: Wouldn't this trigger more than an editorial update?

<mmartin3> c/glenn/plh

<mmartin3> stet

<mmartin3> plh: Doesn't matter where it is.

<mmartin3> glenn: Could put in Conformance section and link to G.

<mmartin3> plh: Make appropriate references in Conformance section.

<mmartin3> ...IANA - point to a version.

<mmartin3> ...Will reply to IANA and indicate we will reapply once we publish SE.

<mmartin3> mike: Timing?

<glenn> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#common-styling

<mmartin3> glenn: Actions open and new edition with a TBD (Appendix N) on styling. Q1 CY 13

<mmartin3> plh: We should publish now.

<mmartin3> mike: Use example we have ready

<mmartin3> ...Publish now.

<mmartin3> plh: Publish.

<mmartin3> mmartin3: Agree. We also need to add displayAlign feature to be consistent with changes to be included in TTML 1.0 SE.

<mmartin3> glenn: Other open issues.

<mmartin3> Issue-172

<mmartin3> Issue-173

<mmartin3> Related to SDP-US and Unicode.

<mmartin3> plh: Publish after resolution?

<mmartin3> glenn:

<mmartin3> Agree.

<mmartin3> ...14 issues open to 1.0.

<mmartin3> plh: Prefer to go ahead and publish 1.0 SE.

<mmartin3> ...Discuss next week.

SDP-US

<plh> Monica: Glenn did some of the changes related to issues @@ and 190

<plh> ... will take it if offline with Glenn

<plh> Glenn: ok

<mmartin3> mmartin3; Editorial changes so we can publish for Last Call and notify Chairs.

<mmartin3> glenn: Wasn't sure how to update editorial.

<mmartin3> ...displayAlign?

<mmartin3> ...constrain feature?

<mmartin3> ...use of center?'

<mmartin3> mike: No opinion.

<mmartin3> glenn: Center may not be required.

<mmartin3> ...not in 608 document perhaps.

<mmartin3> mmartin3: Also discuss with Sean.

Update on issues reassigned to TTML.next

<plh> issue-188?

<trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Bounding SDP-US rendering complexity -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/188

<plh> reassigned to TTML.next

<plh> issue-184?

<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- set animation is not taken is not account in the computed style set -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/184

<mmartin3> mike: Proposal to address all open issues that affect SDP-US in updates for TTML 1.0 Second Edition. We can handle the other issues in a subsequent TTML 1.0 edition or in 1.1.

<mmartin3> glenn: Moratorium Dec 15.

<mmartin3> ..to publish

<mmartin3> ,,,can we get SE out?

<plh> "No publications between 14 December 2012 and 2 Jan 2013." https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html

<mmartin3> ...internal last call?

<mmartin3> plh: We don't have time and we need to talk to director.

<mmartin3> ...Get done in Jan 2013 for SE.

<mmartin3> mike: DECE is publishing second week of Jan so if we can get this done by that time.

<mmartin3> plh: Need internal draft for TTWG by Dec 20; be ready with issues and proposals for inclusion of TTML 1.0 SE. Start review period around Dec 20. 1st week of Jan we make a decision and then publish by the second week.

<mmartin3> No objections.

<mmartin3> EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE ISSUES W/PROPOSALS FOR TTML 1.0 SE ON DEC 13.

<mmartin3> glenn: Will update media section.

<mmartin3> ...mike will summarize the media type record for Glenn.

<mmartin3> plh: Propose template.

<mmartin3> action mike create updated template and summary of media type record for Glenn.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-133 - Create updated template and summary of media type record for Glenn. [on Mike Dolan - due 2012-12-13].

<mmartin3> mmartin3: Last Call timing?

<mmartin3> plh: Suggest 4 weeks.

<mmartin3> ...In line with process.

<mmartin3> ...4 weeks after holiday.

<mmartin3> ...what is most important?

<mmartin3> mmartin3: Be ready at same time.

<mmartin3> ...Can't we publish with the editorial updates?

<mmartin3> glenn: Resolve displayAlign.

<mmartin3> plh: Any objections to on publish?

<mmartin3> mike: No

<mmartin3> plh: Has to be done by Dec 12.

<mmartin3> plh: AOB?

<mmartin3> Adjourned.

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