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yosuke: if we have standards to share information, that is very useful
<sangwhan> Scribe: fwtnb
yosuke: triple disaster
... earthquake, tsunami, nuclear disaster
... disasters can happen in NYC
... [ showing photos on NYT ]
... there were 4 events in japan this year
... Big data workshop led by Google Japan and Twitter
Japan
... 2nd one is Symposium on Web and Tv 2012
... 3rd is Big tent in Sendai
... last one is Sendai Dialogue led by the World Bank
<naomi> fwtnb: [ showing slides ]
<naomi> fwtnb: big datas of Google
<naomi> Yosuke: NHK also has big data
<naomi> fwtnb: gray area shows interuppted @@
<naomi> ... red area is mobile connection
<naomi> ... number os twitter after the disaster of one week
<naomi> ... datas on using Google application to show images
<naomi> ... Twitter had hash tags
<naomi> ... how we could use hash tags effectively
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<kaz> i/fwtnb: [ showing slides ]/scribenick: naomi/
yosuke: blue circles indicates
that broadcaster's information
... people used those bigdatas to analyze information
... needed visualized information
... we have to figure out how we can provide information
... comments?
<scribe> scribenick: fwtnb
Robin: One of the topic in the
symposium is disaster
... many issues were discussed in the symposium
... and there are lots of topics related to W3C
Numabe: I'm from Fuji Television
in Japan
... I can talk about actual use cases in Japan
... broadcasting is not enough
... there were big earthquake in Japan 1995
... at that time there were no internet available to
people
... only source we had is TV
... compare with the past, we have internet and SNS today
... using SNS and Ustream to deliver latest information as fast
as possible
... people in Tokyo got information through internet and
One-seg (Japanese broadcasting for mobile phone)
... we ( broadcaster ) were really helped by internet
<sangwhan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1seg
Shoko: Big tent in Sendai was
held in July 2
... google crisis response team, students from New Zealand and
many others join this event to show what they had done
Yosuke: lets move on to the next
event
... Sendai Dialogue
... the World Bank is now encouraging every gov to use their
money for disaster prevention
... message from The World Bank is "disaster is the main
stream"
... Again, in the nut shell
... [ review slides ]
... what we can do inside W3C and outside W3C
<shoko> ... NHK, Fuji Television and Tomo-Digi prepared doc for this session
Yosuke: NHK and Fuji Television and Tomo-Digi prepared a document for this session
Matsumura: mostly explained by Yosuke
<shoko> http://www.w3.org/community/webandbroadcasting/wiki/MediaTechnologiesInTheTimeOfDisaster
Matsumura: but I'd like to hear people's comments on how to combine broadcasting and internet
Yosuke: there are some issues
that we can think of
... we listed these issues with broadcasting experts and
internet experts
... getting more and more convenient device, people will get
weaker and weaker
... if people depend on new services, some responsibility must
come along with it
... There are some places that we can talk these issues
... Initial mapping with W3C activity
... any comments?
sangwhan: its hard to get data connection even in not disaster time
Yosuke: notification and alerts
are important
... but we need more information
sangwhan: we can use multi-casting
Kevin: have you ever heard other
disasters in different region?
... are there any summary?
Yosuke: one possible
scenario
... [ show slide ]
... we have lot of stakeholders, so talking this item in Web
and TV IG is not good idea so far
... eGov, GLD, LDP may be some candidate to work with
... and Web and Broadcasting BG also
... next step
... any comments?
takuya: wondering about
timeline
... no reliability of internet connection in disaster time
<sangwhan> I believe that this work might need to collaborate with groups outside W3C for the reliable transport bit, since low level transport is not quite handled here (example: GSMA)
takuya: google person finder is a good example
Yosuke: some telecommunication
company try hard to establish reliable system
... but that's why only internet is not enough
... If no combination of internet and broadcasting, people can
not get information in disaster time
Okamoto: two problems
... network and interface
... I know telecom companies try hard to create reliable
connection
takuya: internet is not the only way of course
Yosuke: we have to use whatever we can
takuya: recommendation
... consider use cases
kaz: why don't you include discussions with closed-circuit TV providers including local broadcasters?
Yosuke: quick vote
... Web and Broadcasting BG - 12
... Web and TV IG - 8
... other existing CG/IG/WG - 7
<scribe> ... new CG - 11
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: other SDOs -
0
... I will start this discussion in some group in
W3C
<sangwhan> ACTION: Yosuke to setup a group or TF as a follow-up [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/31-disaster-minutes.html#action01]
<kaz> [ adjourned ]
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