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Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

04 Oct 2012

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, David_MacDonald, James_Nurthen, Kathy, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Robin_Tuttle, Marc_Johlic, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, adam_solomon
Regrets
Cherie_Ekholm, Moe_Kraft
Chair
Loretta_Guarino_Reid
Scribe
Ryladog, MichaelC

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 04 October 2012

<David> having trouble calling in

<MichaelC> scribe: Ryladog

<scribe> Meeting: WCAG 2

<Loretta> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20121004misc/results

Agenda 1

Zakim: Agenda 1

<scribe> Scribe: Ryladog

<scribe> Agenda: Miscellaneous Issues for 04 Oct 2012

WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable" (copied from the survey header)

WCAG2ICT proposal: real-time event

Alex: You make an assumption that the user is making a specific time and date
... This specific example does does show a realtime event
... These elements do not inform our readers that this is real world event

Loretta: I think we have a misunderstanding of what is a real world event

Gregg: 'Whenever is multiplayer' is real time

Alex: I agree, but not all games

<Loretta> \me Katie, you don't need to record the conversation (although you are welcome to)

Gregg: You could slow that one down
... If both sides have time to make the move, maybe there is no time element
... A single palyer game may have a begin and end time

Alex: We habe to define a real world event as something associated with a real time event, not in the physical world
... Single player, and educational game, have no association withwhether itis a real time event or not

Gregg: So lets go back to that
... It says real world event and it should say time
... We morphed real time into real world
... Lets fix this
... A single player not linked to a rewal world TIME (not Event)

Loretta: hat about wall clock time?

Gregg: Maybe the term WORLD should go away

<scribe> ACTION: Item to Gregg and Alex to re-write [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find Item. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/users>.

<MichaelC> ACTION: gregg to work with alex to rewrite proposal on real-time event addition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Work with alex to rewrite proposal on real-time event addition [on Gregg Vanderheiden - due 2012-10-11].

WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable

<scribe> ACTION: gregg to work with alex to rewrite proposal on real-time event addition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]

* Michael, I have to stop scribing at 5pm (EST), will be on the phone only driving to a meeting

* Thanks sorry....:-(

Gregg: User-controllable was a poor choice of a name

Loretta: Lets wrap up

<scribe> ACTION: loretta, gregg, alex work on rewording WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find loretta,. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/users>.

WCAG2ICT proposal: Understanding 3.3.1

Zakim< topic: WCAG2ICT proposal: Understanding 3.3.1

WCAG2ICT proposal Understanding 3.3.1

<scribe> ACTION: loretta gregg and alex work on rewording WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Gregg and alex work on rewording WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2012-10-11].

Amended Accepted as amended

LC-2611 floated lists (e.g. horizontal menus) not covered in test of H48

* Michael, I have to stop now

* thanks

<Zakim> jamesn, you wanted to say it shouldn't really be a list

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/H48.html

<David> <!DOCTYPE html>

<David> <html>

<David> <head>

<David> <style type="text/css">

<David> ul

<David> {

<David> float:left;

<David> width:100%;

<David> padding:0;

<David> margin:0;

<David> list-style-type:none;

<David> }

<David> a

<David> {

<David> float:left;

<David> width:6em;

<David> text-decoration:none;

<David> color:white;

<David> background-color:purple;

<David> padding:0.2em 0.6em;

<David> border-right:1px solid white;

<David> }

<David> a:hover {background-color:#ff3300;}

<David> li {display:inline;}

<David> </style>

<David> </head>

<David> <body>

<David> <ul>

<David> <li><a href="#">Link one</a></li>

<David> <li><a href="#">Link two</a></li>

<David> <li><a href="#">Link three</a></li>

<David> <li><a href="#">Link four</a></li>

<David> </ul>

<MichaelC> ACTION: adam to provide new proposal for floated lists (H48) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-183 - Provide new proposal for floated lists (H48) [on Adam Solomon - due 2012-10-11].

<MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC

SCR18: Providing client-side validation and alert

<scribe> ACTION: cooper to prepare a second example for SCR18 showing how to use a single onsubmit alert to report several validation errors in one go [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-184 - Prepare a second example for SCR18 showing how to use a single onsubmit alert to report several validation errors in one go [on Michael Cooper - due 2012-10-11].

leave open until action completed

PDF3: Example 3 uses invalid terms

leave open

for AWK and Cherie to propose response

Provide Technique(s) using PDF/UA

RESOLUTION: accept as amended

H91: Example incorrect

<AWK> David, are you also hearing the really painful scratchy noise on the line?

continue discussion next week

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: adam to provide new proposal for floated lists (H48) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to prepare a second example for SCR18 showing how to use a single onsubmit alert to report several validation errors in one go [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: gregg to work with alex to rewrite proposal on real-time event addition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: gregg to work with alex to rewrite proposal on real-time event addition [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Item to Gregg and Alex to re-write [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: loretta gregg and alex work on rewording WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: loretta, gregg, alex work on rewording WCAG2ICT proposal: user controllable [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action04]
 
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