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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

20 Sep 2012

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Attendees

Present
mmartin3, pal, Sean, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, mike, frans, tbause, Plh
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Chair
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Scribe
mmartin3

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 20 September 2012

chair

sean hayes

scribe mmartin3

<Frans> Frans

<mijordan> Andrew_Kirkpatrick is actually mijordan

Editorial Updates

mmartin3: Described the changes made by Glenn and then his questions.

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html

http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/

mmartin3: Section 6.6.2

Do not add a statement to Section 6.6.2.

Section 8.1.2

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0040.html

Received questions what is rollup?

mike: Do we need normative content on what rollup is?

sean: Removed text. Added descriptive text.
... Capture that duration is allowed on <p> elements.

R0020 related to Section 8.1.2

R0020 - Processors must support the capability to present documents in the following common forms: •Pop-up •Roll-up •Paint-on

sean: Perhaps we could relax this requirement.

Use examples.

Introduction and examples could be used.

mmartin3: We show how the styles are accomplished.

Change R0020 into introductory text and examples.

<scribe> ACTION: Glenn Make changes in Section 8.1.2 as specified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0040.html. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Make changes in Section 8.1.2 as specified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0040.html. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-27].

<scribe> ACTION: Glenn Delete R0020 and add introductory text about these styles with descriptions for Section 6.4.2. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Delete R0020 and add introductory text about these styles with descriptions for Section 6.4.2. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-27].

Section 7.1.1

mike: Won't change performance.

Make profile different from CFF-TT.

What was the reason for this requirement to start?

sean: 608 data lines allowed at one time.

May also be in conflict with EBU-TT as well.

Mark element as at risk.

Mike will create an issue on R0040 for EBU-TT and CFF-TT.

Section 8.3

sean: Player has to support #frameRateMultiplier but document may or may not contain it.

Profiles haven't been historically applied to the player.

Presentation processor

Leave open until profile discussion is resolved.

Appendix A.1

mmartin3: Glenn has applied the changed and put in corrected language.

Corrected language that was actually in the action but he didn't see.

Abstract

mike: Glenn changed language.

Some features aren't supported.

No objections on "intended to support".

Issues

Issue-180?

<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- regions relative to the root container -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/180

mike: Explains issue.

sean: Can position outside the root container but they are invisible.

mike: Scenario doesn't make sense.

Not interoperable.

sean: Similar to CSS.

For profile we may want to constrain the values so they are inside the root container.

Idea of an infinite canvas.

Members are asked to review.

<scribe> ACTION: Sean investigate how this is handled in TTML 1.0. re: Issue-180 on values inside the root container. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Investigate how this is handled in TTML 1.0. re: Issue-180 on values inside the root container. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-09-27].

<scribe> ACTION: Mike propose requirement to constrain to the root container in SDP-US (see Action-101 and Issue-180). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - Propose requirement to constrain to the root container in SDP-US (see Action-101 and Issue-180). [on Mike Dolan - due 2012-09-27].

Defer Issue-182

Defer-183

c/Defer-183/Defer Issue-183

Issue-184?

<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- set animation is not taken is not account in the computed style set -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/184

sean: Explanation Doesn't account for the animation occurs.

c/for/for when

Discuss Sept. 21.

Liaison document

Posted.

mike: Give update on why this was done.

Mapping of US government requirements to TTML.

Does SDP meet those requirements?

IMF features

sean: We have discussed some of these issues but they had been deferred.

plh: The statements - one are technical requirements for TTML.How can we work on technical requirements that are not public?

mike: Sensitive information is included in IMF details.

sean: Requirements need to be public.

Create issues that are independent.

<scribe> ACTION: Mike ask SMPTE if we can make technical requirements public. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-106 - Ask SMPTE if we can make technical requirements public. [on Mike Dolan - due 2012-09-27].

Meeting Sean is in transit

plh: Will help if Sean prepares agenda.

trackbot, end meting

<trackbot> Sorry, mmartin3, I don't understand 'trackbot, end meting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Glenn Delete R0020 and add introductory text about these styles with descriptions for Section 6.4.2. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Glenn Make changes in Section 8.1.2 as specified http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0040.html. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Mike ask SMPTE if we can make technical requirements public. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Mike propose requirement to constrain to the root container in SDP-US (see Action-101 and Issue-180). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean investigate how this is handled in TTML 1.0. re: Issue-180 on values inside the root container. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-tt-minutes.html#action03]
 
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