<MikeSmith> issue-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
<MikeSmith> issue-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
<MikeSmith> issue-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
<MikeSmith> issue-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 02 August 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: glenn
ACTION-220?
<trackbot> ACTION-220 -- Paul Cotton to work with Matthew to get an editor's draft submitted to the WG for proposed adaptive image element -- due 2012-08-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/220
None
ISSUE-194?
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
ISSUE-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
sam: covered later in agenda
ISSUE-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
sam: closing tomorrow
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
sam: extended CPs until tomorrow
ISSUE-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
sam: have an objection and two
new proposals
... lots of good discussion
... c/q?
None
None
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
sam: CfC passed, no further
changes needed
... now closed
ISSUE-158?
<trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
sam: chairs evaluated survey and
published decision
... will be applied by new editor team
ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
sam: was to go to survey after
194 done, no futher updates from authors
... janina and judy like more time
... chairs would like more info on this
MikeSmith: talked about this on TF call, judy will speak about this
Judy: the TF is also involved on
this
... [author] is aware of concerns
... decision on 204, not yet available
... TF expects may affect position on issue 30
... TF needs time after 204 decision to add any adjustments
derived from that
... PFWG may also have interest
... do not expect Aug 17th to be adequate
... uncertain on what date to start counting additional
time
... wants to note this is a slow month with many vacations
Janina: Laura will be on vacation... so have an "August" problem
sam: would like more specifics and template for 204 decision plus X number of days
Judy: a coordination request is pending
sam: needs to be "on list"
Judy: happy to put items on
list
... this is a long-pending issue with lots of complications
sam: any more c/q?
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
Janina: status blockage on 201 which affects 131
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
Janina: several folks have found
a flaw, and waiting for response from Ted (hober) and
Frank
... within one line of text for an agreement
sam: how much additional time needed for 131?
Janina: not sure, but not a lot
paulc_: wants to understand
dependency between 131 and 201
... this is first time chairs have heard this
Janina: possibly mistaken...
paulc_: position of chairs is issues 201 and 131 are independent
hober: Frank has replied on 201 on list and said text looks good
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Aug/0055.html
hober: [ted] is looking at it
right now
... not sure all of changes rich and steve asked for
sam: asks ted if there is linkage between 131 and 201
<rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-131
hober: doesn't think there is a depednency
s/depednecy/dependency/
Janina: could be wrong
sam: any more comments on 201/131?
ted: replying to frank's email now
paulc_: asks ted if this will allow CfC on single change proposal?
hober: i hope so
ISSUE-164?
<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
paulc_: missing date for "part 5"
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0153.html
paulc_: looks like 4 or 5 of the
proposals will be updated or not touched
... first 5 question survey
... will contact author of 5th proposal
ISSUE-195?
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
sam: cameron is looking to review proposal, but working it on vacation
ISSUE-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
sam: lots of good discussion on
possible merge of CPs
... reintroduced a new CP, differs significantly from ted's
CP
... MikeSmith sees hope for two merging
paulc_: 3 CPs posible decreasing to 2?
sam: author of third (Mike) seems
willing to observed merge of other 2
... active good discussion, worth letting it continue
janina: thinks overnight mail from Mike deals with 80%
Judy: some pending concerns about
user requirements
... encouraged by discussion, but last 20% may be difficult
[was that Judy or Laura speaking?]
sam: any more on 206?
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0228.html
sam: Where to Send Other Bugs for
Now
... discussing with new editors process for bugs
... see above link
paulc_: notes TPAC registration is open
<paulc_> TPAC registration is open: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0244.html
paulc_: HTML WG will meet on
TH/FR of that week
... same location in Lyon as 2 years ago
glenn: notes reg fees go up on Oct16 from 45 to 135 Euro per day
sam: any AOB?
sam: will be mjs turn to chair
sam: adjourned
trackbot, end meeting
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