IRC log of eval on 2012-06-28
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 3825
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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- Meeting: WCAG 2.0 Evaluation Methodology Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 28 June 2012
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- zakim, call shadi-617
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- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM has now started
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- +Shadi
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- chair: Eric
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- regrets: Tim, Moe
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- agenda+ New questionnaire
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- agenda+ Open issues from discussion on the list, previous telco’s and questionnaire. Please join in the discussion on the list. Reference: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/
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- agenda+ DoC ID 4 – Change language
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- agenda+ DoC ID 7 – Definition of “website part”
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- agenda+ DoC ID 18 – Seems to contradict
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- agenda+ DoC ID 25 – Person or organization
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- agenda+ DoC ID 41 – Re-used portions of pages
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- agenda+ DoC ID 44 – Testing all pages
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- + +1.301.975.aaaa
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- + +1.301.975.aaaa
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- zakim, aaaa is Liz
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- +Liz; got it
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- +??P5
- 13:59:07 [vivienne]
- zakim, PPP5 is me
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- sorry, vivienne, I do not recognize a party named 'PPP5'
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- zakim, ??P5 is me
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- +vivienne; got it
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- +ericvelleman
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- zakim, muteme
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- I don't understand 'muteme', vivienne
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- zakim, mute me
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- vivienne should now be muted
- 13:59:46 [MartijnHoutepen]
- zakim, ericvelleman is really me
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- +MartijnHoutepen; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- MartijnHoutepen should now be muted
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- +Mike
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- + +31.30.890.aabb
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- + +1.978.760.aacc
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- zakim, aabb is Eric
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- agenda+ TPAC 2012 Registration http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0102.html
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- +Eric; got it
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- zakim, aacc is Kathy
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- +Kathy; got it
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- +[Oracle]
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- Zakim, Oracle is Peter_Korn
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- +Peter_Korn; got it
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- + +1.517.432.aadd
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- zakim, aadd is Sarah_Swierenga
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- +Sarah_Swierenga; got it
- 14:04:32 [MartijnHoutepen]
- ack me
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- scribe: Martijn
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- zakim, mute me
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- scribenick: MartijnHoutepen
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- MartijnHoutepen should now be muted
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 9
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- agendum 9. "TPAC 2012 Registration http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0102.html" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:06:18 [MartijnHoutepen]
- wcag-em due to meet 29-30 oct at TPAC
- 14:07:24 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: if interested: start booking!
- 14:07:55 [Zakim]
- +??P32
- 14:08:39 [richard]
- zakim ??p32 is richard
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- zakim, ??p32 is Richard
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- +Richard; got it
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- zakim, mute me
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- Shadi should now be muted
- 14:08:55 [ericvelleman]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq3/
- 14:09:06 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 1. "New questionnaire" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:09:21 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: new questionnaire online, open till sunday
- 14:10:15 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: if you haven't filled it in yet, do so
- 14:10:36 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:10:36 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Open issues from discussion on the list, previous telco’s and questionnaire. Please join in the discussion on the list. Reference:
- 14:10:39 [Zakim]
- ... https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:10:47 [ericvelleman]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/
- 14:10:59 [shadi]
- zakim, close agendum 2
- 14:10:59 [Zakim]
- agendum 2, Open issues from discussion on the list, previous telco’s and questionnaire. Please join in the discussion on the list. Reference:
- 14:11:01 [Zakim]
- ... https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/, closed
- 14:11:01 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:11:01 [Zakim]
- 3. DoC ID 4 – Change language [from shadi]
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3. "DoC ID 4 – Change language" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:11:14 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2631
- 14:11:42 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0124.html
- 14:11:57 [richard]
- +1
- 14:12:04 [ericvelleman]
- Resolution: Leave this comment for the moment and make no change. When the comments was made, the document looked like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step5. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:12:12 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: new resolution of DoC 4
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- +1
- 14:12:17 [korn]
- +1
- 14:12:17 [MartijnHoutepen]
- +1
- 14:12:26 [vivienne]
- +1
- 14:12:26 [Liz]
- +1
- 14:12:32 [shadi]
- ack me
- 14:12:32 [ericvelleman]
- +1
- 14:12:33 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1
- 14:13:02 [MartijnHoutepen]
- Resolution for DoC 4: eave this comment for the moment and make no change. When the comments was made, the document looked like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step5. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:13:06 [ericvelleman]
- # DoC ID 4 – Change language Resolution:
- 14:13:15 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 4. "DoC ID 7 – Definition of “website part”" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:13:27 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUTION
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 14:13:33 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "DoC ID 4 – Change language" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:13:51 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUTION: Leave this comment for the moment and make no change. When the comments was made, the document looked like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step5. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:14:27 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3 was just opened, shadi
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- zakim, close agendum 3
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- agendum 3, DoC ID 4 – Change language, closed
- 14:14:36 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:14:36 [Zakim]
- 4. DoC ID 7 – Definition of “website part” [from shadi]
- 14:14:38 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:14:38 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "DoC ID 7 – Definition of “website part”" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:14:53 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2621
- 14:15:17 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: shadi will suggest new text for resolution DoC ID 7
- 14:15:19 [ericvelleman]
- DoC ID 18 – Seems to contradict
- 14:15:21 [shadi]
- action: shadi to draft a proposal for new definition of "website part"
- 14:15:22 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1 - Draft a proposal for new definition of "website part" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2012-07-05].
- 14:15:29 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:15:29 [Zakim]
- agendum 4 was just opened, shadi
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- zakim, close agendum 4
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- agendum 4, DoC ID 7 – Definition of “website part”, closed
- 14:15:36 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:15:36 [Zakim]
- 5. DoC ID 18 – Seems to contradict [from shadi]
- 14:15:37 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 5. "DoC ID 18 – Seems to contradict" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:15:52 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2630
- 14:16:05 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0127.html
- 14:16:10 [ericvelleman]
- Resolution: Discard this comment. When the comments was made, section 5 was more or less empty except for some editor notes. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:16:16 [MartijnHoutepen]
- +1
- 14:16:20 [korn]
- +1
- 14:16:21 [shadi]
- +1
- 14:16:21 [Liz]
- +1
- 14:16:24 [vivienne]
- +1
- 14:16:29 [richard]
- +1
- 14:16:41 [ericvelleman]
- +1
- 14:16:41 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1
- 14:16:46 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUTION: Discard this comment. When the comments was made, section 5 was more or less empty except for some editor notes. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:16:56 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 6. "DoC ID 25 – Person or organization" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:17:21 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2613
- 14:17:29 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0122.html
- 14:17:42 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUTION: Discard this comment. When the comments was made, section 5 was more or less empty except for some editor notes. We will work on that section in more detail in the next editor drafts and will have ample opportunity to discuss this as a group then.
- 14:17:50 [ericvelleman]
- The Resolution would then be: replace "Person who did the evaluation" by "Evaluator".
- 14:17:54 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1
- 14:18:02 [vivienne]
- +1
- 14:18:03 [Liz]
- +1
- 14:18:14 [richard]
- +1
- 14:18:16 [MartijnHoutepen]
- +1
- 14:18:50 [shadi]
- +1 provided the word "Evaluator" is linked to its definition
- 14:18:51 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1 linking to definition
- 14:19:16 [MartijnHoutepen]
- ack me
- 14:19:21 [Liz]
- +1 to link to definition
- 14:19:58 [shadi]
- scribe: shadi
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- 14:20:01 [richard]
- +1 lonk to definition
- 14:20:24 [shadi]
- RESOLUTION: replace "Person who did the evaluation" by "Evaluator" and link it to its definition
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- zakim, mute me
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- MartijnHoutepen should now be muted
- 14:20:45 [ericvelleman]
- DoC ID 25 – Person or organization
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- scribe: Martijn
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- scribenick: MartijnHoutepen
- 14:21:02 [shadi]
- zakim, taker up next
- 14:21:02 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'taker up next', shadi
- 14:21:03 [ericvelleman]
- DoC ID 41 – Re-used portions of pages
- 14:21:08 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:21:08 [Zakim]
- agendum 7. "DoC ID 41 – Re-used portions of pages" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:21:19 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2616
- 14:22:47 [richard]
- q+
- 14:22:58 [ericvelleman]
- Step 3 introduction text has a Note that says: “Note: This step identifies a comprehensive sample of web pages that need to be evaluated. However, many web pages will have repetitive content, such as the header, navigation, and other common components that may not need to be re-evaluated on each occurrence. Guidance on evaluating the sample identified in this step is provided in Step 4: Audit the Selected Sample”.
- 14:23:33 [ericvelleman]
- Step 4 introduction has an Editor Note that says: “…The introduction will include advice on how to avoid evaluation of repetitive content that would not yield new findings;”
- 14:23:59 [ericvelleman]
- New Proposed Resolution: Add in editor note in step 4: “Include this comment for consideration for when we start working on this section ” and no change in step 3 introduction text as it already covers this.
- 14:24:31 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:24:46 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step3
- 14:25:03 [shadi]
- ack richard
- 14:25:07 [shadi]
- q+
- 14:25:11 [shadi]
- ack me
- 14:25:17 [MartijnHoutepen]
- richard: links to the existing discussion about templates
- 14:26:12 [Zakim]
- -Mike
- 14:26:20 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:26:55 [Zakim]
- +Mike
- 14:27:05 [ericvelleman]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20120523.html
- 14:28:25 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:28:36 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: newer version of methodology already adresses this
- 14:29:25 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:29:37 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: template issue is a different discussion; maybe close this comment
- 14:29:46 [ericvelleman]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-em-comments/2012Apr/0003.html
- 14:31:00 [korn]
- q+
- 14:32:15 [vivienne]
- q+
- 14:32:22 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: we have to be careful; we are evaluating the whole page. This comment adresses evalution efficiency. We musnt open doors to excluding parts
- 14:32:40 [richard]
- +1
- 14:32:49 [shadi]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:32:49 [Zakim]
- Shadi should now be muted
- 14:33:36 [richard]
- NO repeated blocks is not similar areas
- 14:33:56 [MartijnHoutepen]
- peter: add advisory if evaluator notices repeated blocks, make a note
- 14:34:00 [vivienne]
- ack me
- 14:34:38 [shadi]
- ack korn
- 14:35:09 [MartijnHoutepen]
- vivienne: We recommend taking a screenshot to identify 'shared areas', chech everything on every page, but not make a remark every time, refer to earlier comment
- 14:35:21 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:35:37 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:35:37 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 14:36:24 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: this is a valuable discussion, but the comment does not adress this issue. We will have this discussion later
- 14:37:07 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1 to respond to the public comment - saying that we are working on it for a future draft.
- 14:37:15 [shadi]
- q+
- 14:37:19 [shadi]
- ack me
- 14:37:23 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: we can close this issue first, keeping in mind we will have the discussion when we arrive to discussing this specific step
- 14:38:25 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20120523.html#step4
- 14:38:45 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: maybe create a specific editor note asking for input on how to deal with re-used content
- 14:40:15 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: We adressed this comment.
- 14:40:36 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: If we want more input on this, we can create a specific editor note for this
- 14:40:39 [ericvelleman]
- Proposed resolution: we addressed the comment in the editor note and close it now
- 14:41:01 [richard]
- q+
- 14:41:49 [shadi]
- (1) we have a note in section 3 step 3 relating to that point; (2) we have a related editor note in step 4; (3) we are updating step 4 to refelect this in the upcoming draft
- 14:41:55 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1 to close and add editor note
- 14:42:20 [Mike_Elledge]
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- 14:42:30 [shadi]
- ack richard
- 14:42:31 [MartijnHoutepen]
- richard: agree with shadi
- 14:42:51 [richard]
- +1
- 14:43:23 [korn]
- +1
- 14:43:31 [vivienne]
- +1
- 14:43:39 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUT+1
- 14:43:42 [MartijnHoutepen]
- +1
- 14:43:49 [MartijnHoutepen]
- RESOLUTION: No Change
- 14:43:57 [MartijnHoutepen]
- Rationale: (1) we have a note in section 3 step 3 relating to that point; (2) we have a related editor note in step 4; (3) we are updating step 4 to refelect this in the upcoming draft
- 14:44:17 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:44:17 [Zakim]
- agendum 8. "DoC ID 44 – Testing all pages" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:44:22 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:44:25 [shadi]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/48225/evaltfq2/results#x2614
- 14:44:54 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-evaltf/2012Jun/0098.html
- 14:45:01 [korn]
- q+
- 14:45:52 [shadi]
- ack k
- 14:46:04 [richard]
- q+
- 14:46:38 [MartijnHoutepen]
- peter: one of the goals of this methodology is sampling, but is not mandatory
- 14:47:31 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: rewording: if evaluating all pages is not feasible, take a sample
- 14:47:46 [shadi]
- ack r
- 14:48:42 [Mike_Elledge]
- q+
- 14:49:08 [MartijnHoutepen]
- richard: the majority of websites is quite small, we want to encourage them to evaluate a11y themselves. As a starting position: evaluate the whole site
- 14:49:31 [vivienne]
- q+
- 14:50:00 [shadi]
- ack mike
- 14:50:28 [MartijnHoutepen]
- mike: agree with Richard, in ideal circumstances every page will be tested, but that isnt feasible
- 14:50:42 [vivienne]
- ack me
- 14:51:13 [ericvelleman]
- q?
- 14:51:23 [richard]
- q+
- 14:51:48 [vivienne]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:51:48 [Zakim]
- vivienne should now be muted
- 14:52:10 [MartijnHoutepen]
- vivienne: most of the people who will want their website evaluated, will be large websites. The majority of websites that are evaluated, are larger. No problem with suggestion to put the whole website first
- 14:52:50 [shadi]
- [[1. Introduction - Because it is generally not feasible nor desired to evaluate every single web page in such a context, it is essential to employ a reliable method for determining the overall conformance of a website -> In many situations it is not possible to evaluate every single web page, so that it is essential to...]]
- 14:52:58 [shadi]
- q+
- 14:52:58 [MartijnHoutepen]
- richard: difference between commercial business and target user of our methodology. The more people that use this methodology the better
- 14:53:01 [shadi]
- ack r
- 14:53:05 [shadi]
- ack me
- 14:54:24 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: we need to make sure our methodology scales up and down.
- 14:55:03 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: in the introduction we already mention this issue
- 14:55:53 [vivienne]
- +1 to Shadi's idea of new wording
- 14:55:57 [korn]
- +1
- 14:56:00 [Mike_Elledge]
- +1
- 14:56:04 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- +1
- 14:56:05 [ericvelleman]
- +1
- 14:56:06 [richard]
- +1
- 14:56:12 [Mike_Elledge]
- !
- 14:56:14 [MartijnHoutepen]
- shadi: suggestion to add a note; if you have the resources to evaluate every page, consider it your sample
- 14:56:16 [MartijnHoutepen]
- +1
- 14:56:30 [Liz]
- +1
- 14:56:50 [shadi]
- action: shadi to go through methodology and propose wording changes to better address the possibility to evaluate all pages, if the evaluator is willing to do so
- 14:56:50 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2 - Go through methodology and propose wording changes to better address the possibility to evaluate all pages, if the evaluator is willing to do so [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2012-07-05].
- 14:57:11 [shadi]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:57:11 [Zakim]
- Shadi should now be muted
- 14:57:33 [MartijnHoutepen]
- eric: two proposals by shadi to look forward to
- 14:57:48 [Mike_Elledge]
- bye!
- 14:57:49 [MartijnHoutepen]
- ack me
- 14:57:49 [vivienne]
- well done all - good night
- 14:57:50 [Sarah_Swierenga]
- bye - have a good week!
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- WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, +1.301.975.aaaa, Liz, vivienne, MartijnHoutepen, Mike, +31.30.890.aabb, +1.978.760.aacc, Eric, Kathy, Peter_Korn, +1.517.432.aadd, Sarah_Swierenga, Richard
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- 15:19:20 [shadi]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
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- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-eval-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-eval-actions.rdf :
- 15:19:29 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shadi to draft a proposal for new definition of "website part" [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-eval-irc#T14-15-21
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- ACTION: shadi to go through methodology and propose wording changes to better address the possibility to evaluate all pages, if the evaluator is willing to do so [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-eval-irc#T14-56-50