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<JF> hello?
<Judy> scribe: David
<janina> http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
jf: will get in something for
friday on the 203 ...
... wondering if should wait til second last call
jb: if we have priority collision then maybe
<Judy> 199: (aria-processing) pursuing this week, and into the h5 f2f if needed
janina: 194 is about associating text transcript with video
<janina> scribe: janina
dm: Have reviewed SF's alt doc,
and HTML spec re alt
... Have some examples of bad alt guidance in spec
... Think WCAG should look at SF's doc
... Mainly, I took some notes while doing my 'buggy alt'
action
<David> scribe: David
<janina> judy: Can someone help with this?
<janina> dm: Yes
David and Janina to review alt guidance inHTML 5 spec
<janina> judy: So, js and dm will coordinate Friday on this
<janina> dm: Have emailed a doc with review, i think it's finished
<J_F> scribe: JF
<J_F> David forwarded the rsults of his review
<J_F> exec summary is 9 images in spec have no alt text, but should have some
<J_F> suspects taht they were used to embelish content on the same page - contrary to WCAG 2
<J_F> one image has alt text of 108 words
<J_F> 2 major issues, then there are some other alt texts that are questionable - wouldn't fail but could review
<J_F> David's report has screen caps and associted alt text if anyone wishes to review
<J_F> Daivd: there seems to be a philosophical divide, as the null alt appears to be intentional rather than a mistake
<J_F> JB: suspect that next step is that this is preliminary, but needs to be written up so that it could be presented as a batch or as individual 'things' to address
<J_F> JB: timing is less than ideal
<J_F> would be nice if we could get these done as editorial clarrifications
<J_F> JB: they likely need to be written up as impartially as possible: note image, problem, proposed alt text, thank-you
<J_F> +Q
<J_F> JB: how hard would it be to convert from what we have to what we need?
<J_F> David to set up a wiki page to work on this
<J_F> David: will need assistance will inserting images
<J_F> JF to assist David if/when required
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0162.html
<scribe> scribe: David
jb: will touch base with Benjamin
to close 204
... Cynthia about to wrap with Laura
Laura: this should address Benjamin's concerns also
jb: we'll tell chairs after the call that we are wrapping 204
<laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0173.html
<laura> bye
<Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Text_Alternatives/Meta_Generator_Decision_Comments
jb: will be looking for input on this CP
janina: prefer discussion of USER centred discussion rather than conformance. ..
<J_F> +Q
jf: first time seeing.... i need to read this in detail, how do I provide feedback
jb: this should not be out of the blue, Steve Faulkner asked to re-open... we'll take up questions he didn't have answered. .. should have something to review on Thursday
jf: that is fine
jb: let us know if you want us to review
<Judy> Judy: John is writing this this week, hopes to have draft by Thursday.
janina: mike smith will be looking at 194 this Thursday
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