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<nesta_> good day! :)
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
<hober> MikeSmith: thanks for that email re: ISSUE-189
<MikeSmith> tantek, hola
<tantek> scribe, I'm only on IRC for this meeting
<tantek> hi MikeSmith
<paulc> havng trouble calling in
<scribe> scribenick: rubys
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are no new issues, and there still is one tracker request
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
paulc: we have two proposals in hand, and the chairs are now due to review those
<trackbot> ISSUE-148 -- Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter -- closed
paulc: survey closed on April 6, Sam temporarily reopened it to allow a late comment, and there still is some dialog going on
paulc: the chairs will have to
decide how to handle this message; we may reopen the survey
temporarily to allow this to be added
... any comments?
<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
paulc: CfC closed last
... I don't see any objections
... I'm expecting that a decision will be issued fairly quickly
<trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- open
paulc: there has been some debate. The chairs may reissue the CfC
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
paulc: closed yesterday, we
received the counter proposals; the chairs will hold off any
actions until the F2F in May
... this was a request from the a11y TF, and is a reasonable request
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
paulc: closes tomorrow
... are any of the authors on the call?
rubys: Cameron posted his change recently
paulc: that would put this back into the chairs queue to reevaluate
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
paulc: the A11y TF is actively working this issue
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
CfC: Create Media Task Force http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0007.html
paulc: we got a request to extend this by a week; I've extended this consensus to next wednesday
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to talk about IRI WG ticket related to issue 189
Call for agenda topics for May face-to-face meeting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0006.html
paulc: we already have one
... we currently have 30 people registered for the HTML WG meeting
... the registration closes on monday
... we will look for candidate items up to the point of the meeting, which will be run in an unconference style
mike: I sent mail about issue 189
mike: the IETF IRI working group had a ticket opened on this item
mike: if you look at that ticket,
you will see that the current status is CLOSED/FIXED; seen as
out of scope
... the IRI working has no plans to work this
mike: the issue contains an
assertion that we need to work with the IETF. It is not clear
who to coordinate with if the IRI working group hasn't taken
... if the status changes, I will communicate that back
... neither of the chairs of the IRI WG are members of the HTML WG
julian: as the one who opened the
HTML WG issue and the IRI ticket I can speak to both.
... I was in Paris with the IRI WG 14 days ago. They have no plans to discuss this until they are asked by the HTML WG.
... I don't know with whom Mike has spoken, the feedback he provided is not what I remember from that meeting
... I know that I am on the hook to update my CP. My update will state that we need coordination, and I don't volunteer to be that person as I don't believe that feature is needed.
paulc: date for update:
julian: I plan to get to that next weekend; it won't be a big change
paulc: ETA would Monday, April 16th
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say that no, I don't think the IRI WG is expecting to be formally contacted by the HTML WG
mike: the IRI WG has taken no resolution indicating that they are waiting on anything
<tantek> rubys - just saw mention of 183 - I'm on IRC but not on the phone.
mike: Julian if you believe differently, please ask them to confirm that.
julian: It is quite possible that's not in the minutes.
<tantek> I must admit I'm having trouble following the length and complexity of the CJones proposal
mike: I talked to both
... we don't have agreement that any coordination is necessary. That's what is in dispute.
julian: it wouldn't be the IRI
WG, it would be the apps area in general
... I talked Thomas and Mark, we have a meta-coordination area
mike: you should talk to PLH too
<tantek> what's the best way to iterate on / respond to http://www.w3.org/wiki/User:Cjones/ISSUE-183 ? a point by point discussion?
julian: if an action item were assigned to me, I would close it as already done
paulc: is your advise to wait for the IETF
julian: there is nobody official
who can answer that
... this is something that should be handled on the liaison people
paulc: I will convey this to PLH
<paulc> tantek: I suggest you respond directly to the email and if your points are sufficiently different then split the response into separate emails with appropriate Subject: fields
<paulc> BTW "the email" I meant the one where Cameron announced his revision.
paulc: any other business?
<cjones> tantek: i'm keen to answer any questions you have on the proposal
janina: from the A11y TF, we would like to get on record requesting that issue-201 hold off further action until after the F2F
paulc: I've already mentioned it
on the call; we will likely respond on public-html on that item
... any other other business?
<tantek> biggest problems are with the objections to <time> being dependent on future hypotheticals, and the suggestion to use input types instead put far more burden on authors - why should an author have to decide between type="date" and type="datetime" and the numerous other datetime related input types?
paulc: none heard
ted volunteers to scribe
maciej is the likely chair
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