paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
... one new tracker request
http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
ISSUE-193?
<trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-194?
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-195?
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-196?
<trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-197?
<trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-199?
<trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 21
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: Call for Consensus closed Mar 23
... severl 3/21 items were dealt with last week
ISSUE-80?
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
paulc: Call for Consensus closed Mar 28
ISSUE-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
paulc: Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
paulc: Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
ISSUE-200?
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 28
ISSUE-193?
<trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
ISSUE-196?
<trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
ISSUE-197?
<trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
paulc: those three issues have a Call for Consensus which closes Mar 29 (today)
... chairs are meeting after this call today, we will try to move issues along
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
paulc: Revise Change Proposals closes Apr 2
ISSUE-198?
<trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 3
ISSUE-194?
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
paulc: Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 5
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
... chairs expect to issue a straw poll on ISSUE-158
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: Closed by Amicable Consensus
paulc: CfC to publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
Scheduled to be published today
MikeSmith: working on getting everything published
... about half of the documents are staged, working on the other half
<MikeSmith> Zakim: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-html5-20120329/
MikeSmith: waiting on the webmaster to create symlinks after checking for broken links etc.
... we plan to have them all done by EOD (Eastern Time)
paulc: your efforts are well appreciated
... we'll point the wg to the news item on the w3c home page when publication happens
... Revert request r7023
... that was done
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/2dcontext/Overview.html?rev=1.133;content-type=text%2Fhtml
paulc: this was blocking publication
... Extension request for issue 200 - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0641.html
... extension request granted
<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
paulc: two extension requests for issue 194
one: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0633.html
two: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0653.html
paulc: in some cases people are writing multiple CPs and we should give them time away from their day jobs to do so
... Review of issue change proposals
ISSUE-184?
<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
chair feedback: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0737.html
ISSUE-185?
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0738.html
ISSUE-189?
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0739.html
ISSUE-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
early chair feedback on 204: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0766.html
paulc: since we already had 2 CPs, we provided early feedback
... feedback was taken up by the a11y TF on their call today
... reqested revisions to the counter proposal
... Upcoming straw poll for objections for ISSUE-158
ISSUE-158?
<trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
paulc: chairs sent out notification to CP authors
... minor changes made to one of the CPs
... we'll be issuing a straw poll next week
... should go out on monday
... polls last for one week
... chairs are not counting votes; looking for arguments against the positions taken
... no need to +1 after an argument has been put forward
... any other business?
tantek_: question about CP iteration process
... CP authors are given a chance to iterate based on chair feedback
... are there any deadlines or is it based on when the chairs decide to go to a poll?
paulc: there isn't a fixed set of rules; chairs are flexible
<paulc> ISSUE-204 CP review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0766.html
paulc: our feedback here was fairly strong
<paulc> "Unless this flaw is corrected by April 18th, the chairs will not accept the ARIA_CORTHCWSR proposal, and will instead proceed to a call for consensus on the AllowAriaReferHidden proposal."
paulc: gave fixed date for a change which would cause us to accept the CP
... in some cases we provide editorial feedback, or make suggestions to strengthen the case made
... in other cases we're giving dates for going to survey
... we're trying to be as explicit as possible
<rubys> We gave dates for ISSUE-134, ISSUE-191, and ISSUE-203. We have yet to give dates on ISSUE-183, ISSUE-184, ISSUE-185, ISSUE-189.
paulc: if we give a deadline and it's unreasonable due to your other work or other relevant factors, you should respond right away
tantek_: followup question
... chairs said (204 feedback) "this statement must be backed up with evidence"
... my cp for drop-pubdate asserts that there is sufficient hatom adoption
... would referring to, say, default wordpress templates, wordpress.com, be sufficient?
paulc: that's exactly the kind of evidence we're looking for
... if someone says "this feature isn't implemented in any browsers" and someone else says "this is implemented in two browsers", need evidence to back up claims
... if the counter proposal provides contrary evidence, you may want to raise the bar of your own data
tantek_: i'm still trying to acheive wider consensus, it's not clear if i'll be able to acheive this
paulc: the fewer things we need to take to straw polls, the better
glenn: what is the status on the content encryption task force?
paulc: it's in my work queue
... proposed plan to my co-chairs and wg
... now that the heartbeat drafts are being published, this is back at the top of my queue
... you'll probably see an announcement next week
<Zakim> glenn, you wanted to discuss encrypted media tf
paulc: rubys will chair next week
... no volunteers to scribe