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<trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
<tantek> greetings
morning
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<tantek> now that is hilarious
i guess i should talk to myself at this point ... ;)
<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
<scribe> Chair: rubys
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html
None
None
ISSUE-187: validity-stability, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution closed Mar 13
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0225.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over the time notes added
rubys: no objections
ISSUE-80 was incorrectly included
<rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080
ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 14
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0209.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? notes added
ISSUE-158: object-content-model, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 14
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0198.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue notes added
ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 14
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0208.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
ISSUE-179: av_param, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution closed Mar 15
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) notes added
ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
rubys: will go to CfC shortly
ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
rubys: have two extension requests
ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
rubys: two proposals, chairs will evaluate
ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
rubys: no counters, next step CfC
ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
<trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html
ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
rubys: will evaluate
ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
rubys: has ext request
ISSUE-190: coding-example, Call for Consensus closes Mar 23
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0463.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images notes added
rubys: CfC closes tomorrow
ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closes Mar 28
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content notes added
ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively notes added
ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 28
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
None
rubys: double checking...
... two issued
... that weren't in agenda
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0602.html
ISSUE-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
rubys: call for alternate CPs or counter CPs
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
ISSUE-80?
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
rubys: CfC
None
Close ISSUE-170 rel-uri-valid by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0553.html
Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0554.html
Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0555.html
Close ISSUE-187 validity-stability by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0556.html
Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0557.html
Close ISSUE-192 title-attribute by Amicable Resolution
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0558.html
rubys: questions or comments?
Testing Task Force
krisk: met last week, will meet again on 27th
<krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0005.html
krisk: won't fix bug that existed
<krisk> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
krisk: canvas tests, listed in notes
<krisk> Microsoft submitting some Progress and Range Tests
rubys: questions?
Accessibility Task Force
janina: two main items
<scribe> ... new canvas section coming from editor
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: not everything
is clear, but one thing is clear: straying into approaches
inconsistent with html5 time line
... at least for good a11y support
... so this is a concern
... second avenue, aria attribute (ARIA 1.1) draft...
... like longdesc (ISSUE-30)
... summarize as some people still want to develop
longdesc
... the describe-at attr should apply to more elements than
img
... aimed at markup, not just html
... e.g. svg
... not quite settled
... maybe 'obsolete but conforming' is acceptable
... a11y still thinks longdesc is needed today
... longdesc is implemented, but inconsistently
... that's it for now
rubys: doesn't believe current proposals describe longdesc as obsolete but conforming
janina: correct
rubys: may need new CP or modification
janina: expects laura is not in
favor of "that"
... can beef up proposals
<Judy> s/"that"/obsolete but conforming
janina: not to fix described-by
but fix ?
... come up with other additional attribute
<Judy> s/"that?"/obsolete but conforming/
janina: thinks current CP covers problem with described-by
rubys: questions? comments?
judy: side note: janina has coord request with Paul, but trying to schedule
paulc: glad to try
rubys: other questions? comments?
CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
Revert request r7023
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0491.html
rubys: extension request, chairs trying to sort out
F2F registration page
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0488.html
rubys: everybody should
register
... AOB?
adrianba: ISSUE-180?
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
<adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0511.html
scribe: unable to implement
decision due to lack of information
... CP should have all details
... no feedback stating otherwise
... wonders about status of this work
rubys: not yet applied to
spec
... knows of no specific request for clarification, etc.
paulc: will be chairing
rubys: is ted available for next meeting?
ted: yes
... volunteers for next meeting
adjourned
trackbot, end meeting
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