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<trackbot> Date: 01 March 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
rubys: there are none
rubys: there are none
ISSUE-172?
<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- postponed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
rubys: all the proposals were withdrawn
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
rubys: call for alternates closed
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
ISSUE-200?
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
rubys: extended the deadline, closed Feb 26
ISSUE-182?
<trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
ISSUE-188?
<trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
rubys: both had CfCs that closed 2/28
ISSUE-189?
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
rubys: closes today
ISSUE-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
rubys: chairs have provided feedback, would like to see a response by 3/10
three CfCs due 3/7
ISSUE-170?
<trackbot> ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
ISSUE-200?
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
rubys: one proposal
received
... call for counter or alternate proposals closes 3/28
rubys: there are none
ISSUE-172?
<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- postponed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
rubys: closed without prejudice
and deferred
... all proposals were withdrawn
rubys: CfC to publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
rubys: call went out, one objection, currently discussing that objection
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0425.html
paulc: i assume the chairs will have to rule here?
rubys: yes
paulc: we should let the wg know we'll attempt to do that today
rubys: ok
... Encrypted Media proposal has generated a lot of discussion
on the list
... it's not clear what the intended path of the document
is
... we are monitoring the discussion
adrianba: i can clarify the
intention
... we submitted the proposal for 2 reasons
... came out of the web and tv ig's submission to the wg
... lengthy discussion at tpac
... primarily made the submission for the IG's requirements
ISSUE-179?
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
adrianba: this proposal
demonstrates the ability to add functionality to media elements
without resorting to <param>
... current list discussion falls into two categories
... do people even want to work on such a proposal
... and specific feedback on things people would like clarified
/ changed in the draft
... we are improving the proposal based on this feedback
... perhaps forming a tf to work on this spec
... that way the people not interested wouldn't have to see the
list traffic
... looking for guidance on how to move this proposal
forward
rubys: i would support a tf
... next step is to push for a fpwd
adrianba: fpwd may be too high a hurdle right now
paulc: should we create a bugzilla component for you?
adrianba: that would be helpful, yes
paulc: in the past we've made
sure TFs have clear leadership, communication channels,
etc.
... i can do what i did for the a11y and testing
TFs
<scribe> ACTION: paulc to set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-209 - Set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week [on Paul Cotton - due 2012-03-08].
paulc: adrianba, can you be my contact?
adrianba: yes
MikeSmith: i can set up the bugzilla component right now
paulc: can you easily roll that back?
MikeSmith: yes
paulc: ok, go ahead and do
that
... i will include you on the tf setup emails
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to ask if I should set up the bugzilla component
rubys: CfC to adopt time syntax changes
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
rubys: objections were due by
2/29
... likely this will pass
... review of second reopen request for issue 31b
[alt-location]
... we weren't able to find sufficient new information
... have suggested ways to improve the request
... Chair Review of the Change Proposals for ISSUE-179
ISSUE-179?
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
<glenn> expect to update issue-179 CP based on chairs feedback b4 next telcon
rubys: expecting issue to be
updated given our feedback by march 22nd
... late change proposal for ISSUE-198
ISSUE-198?
<trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0371.html
rubys: we got a proposal after we
had marked the issue as deferred
... chairs are discussing how to proceed
glenn: the dom parsing and serialization spec is a whatwg document; do we expect it to be brought into the w3c?
rubys: that's actively being
discussed
... it may be brought into one of two different WGs
... plan to submit CP for ISSUE-203
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0002.html
rubys: CP came in this morning
paulc: chairs are actively reviewing the CP
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
rubys: chairs have requested for clarification and received clarification
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
<MikeSmith> glenn, DOM Parsing and Serialization is listed as deliverable in the draft WebApps WG charter which will soon go out to the AC for review
rubys: chairs requested update; the proposal is missing several necessary components
<glenn> ok, thanks mikesmith
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0011.html
rubys: May F2F for WebApps and
HTML
... Microsoft has volunteered to host
... in silicon valley
paulc: at tpac, chairs decided to
host a spring meeting
... april timeframe didn't work, need a lot of advanced notice
to get corporate space
... MSFT will host first week in May
... chairs are looking for feedback on those dates
... this is in addition to meeting at tpac in november
rubys: any volunteers?
paulc: i'm due to chair
rubys: i won't be available to scribe
<glenn> can scribe if no others
rubys: thanks glenn
<MikeSmith> Encrypted Media Extensions component added, https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/describecomponents.cgi?product=HTML%20WG -- with adrianba set at the default assignee
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