Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 23 February 2012

<Sean> at http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html

<scribe> scribe: glenn

sean: how does charter draft look?
... does it cover sufficient scope?

chart draft at http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html

mike: notes tbd in out of scope section

plh: not needed, can be removed; useful if there is something to specify

mike: propose remove section on out of scope

sean: happy to remove, objections?

mike: our intent is to publish notes in advance of revision if possible in order to accelerate, suggest saying this in introduction

draft charter (see above)

mike: would it be good to have a catch all?

plh: not needed; can have as many wg notes as desired

sean: will generalize
... wants to go to cr by july
... question about what to call the revision: 2.0 or 2nd Ed?

plh: is CR needed? i.e., are technical changes required?

sean: would like to reserve this as a possibility
... but doesn't want to do CR if can be short cutted

<plh> --> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#rec-modify 7.6 Modifying a W3C Recommendation

plh: sean will you provide charter draft revision?

sean: yes, hopefully tomorrow

identified issues

ISSUE-152?

<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152

<plh> --> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-ttaf1-dfxp-20101118/#semantics-region-layout-step-2 9.3.3 Synchronic Flow Processing

sean: intent of change was originally to respond to concerns about need for actual use of XSL-FO
... can support change to make an umbrella statement covering this

plh: who will make changes?

sean: i.e., who will be editor?

glenn: offers to be editor

resolved: glenn will serve as editor

<plh> --> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml TTML Mercurial repository

resolved: move cvs ttwg repository to a new ttml repo on repository, to have directories for specs, tests, etc

sean: write access for all WG members

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to implement migration for repository with help from plh as needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Implement migration for repository with help from plh as needed [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-01].

<scribe> ACTION: glenn implement edit for issue-152 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Implement edit for issue-152 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-01].

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to redirect errata [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Redirect errata [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-01].

<plh> --> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/ttml-issues.html TTML 1.0 errata

sean: should record new changes in errata document, and maintain in parallel

ISSUE-153?

<trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- 'metrics' should be changed to 'units' -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/153

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to effect editorial change on issue-153 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-45 - Effect editorial change on issue-153 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-01].

glenn: should double check existing usage with metrics vs units to ensure consistency with that usage

ISSUE-155?

<trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- #metadata-foreign not defined -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/155

sean: propose to remove examples for now, but then review possible need for new feature

<scribe> ACTION: glenn to remove examples as editorial change [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Remove examples as editorial change [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-01].

issue: is a new #metadata-foreign feature needed?

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-161 - Is a new #metadata-foreign feature needed? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/161/edit .

ISSUE-154?

<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify the endsync behavior -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154

trackbot, comment action-46 relates to issue-155

<trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change notes added

sean: changing endsync behavior probably is not editorial change

andreas: may have some text in annex b in ebu document that discusses this issue, will publish a url to ml for review

<andreas_t_irt> link to the document is http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/tech/tech3350.pdf

sean: suggests group review in more detail before change

<andreas_t_irt> it´s in Annex B

<scribe> ACTION: ttwg to review possible change to default endsync (from 'last' to 'all') [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - ttwg

sean: should complete review by march 8th

glenn: this may trigger CR for 2nd edition, since this is probably a technical change
... the issue is whether this is a change in conformance or not

sean: believes it is not, but would like confirmation from group
... may still be right to make change even if it is a conformance change

any other business?

sean: queries plh on process for adding invited experts

plh: would need to file form, but they should wait for new charter

<plh> --> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/ieapp/ W3C Invited Expert Application

sean: they can participate until new charter is in place, then need ie status

mike: webinar today on smpte timed text (95% ttml); fyi
... will be publicly available

adjournment

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